Rants and Raves

[QUOTE=TheWiseacre;5266437]There are some small ways that the government has tried to claim the tax dollars lost. One example is a massage license, which you used to be able to get online for like $3,000. Now, you need 500 hours of clinical massage training, you need continuing education credits, and it's like $12,000 for a course. This is yet another reason why you see a lot of 40+ year old providers and owners in the area. Because a lot of those licensed providers got theirs back when it was a lot easier to get.

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I will add that saying they live here "tax free" is a bit of a misnomer. AMP providers pay property tax (if they own a home or rent), usage taxes (sales taxes, etc.) and a myriad of other taxes like all the rest of us. Do they pay little or no income tax? I would assume that most vastly underpay income taxes if they file at all. BUT that does limit their ability to collect social security etc.[/QUOTE]I don't mind them earning "tax free" dollars. It's the IRS fault, for not looking into this because lack of resources. The solution is, and WiseAcre is correct on his assessment, the local, state city govt should collect on those license fees and provide health checks. Some cities make the local strippers hold a cabaret license in order for them to work.

If a MP gets 60-120 HJ to FS / patron. One average 3 customers / day (180 - 360) 5-7 days (I've know them to work 7 days, no vaca, damn workaholic asians 900-1800,1260-2520) so the range is 900-2520, that's 46,800 - 131,040 + tax free dollars. And that's on the low side.

The downside is, they have probably 10-20 years in the business.

Most "high-end, GPS" escorts only want to work on "low volume" basis and will charge for it.

[QUOTE=HaneDales;5267944]I highly doubt you belong to these professions so you can zip it. Only thing that resonated with me is the fact that any one us here could have been paint sprayed in those massages. Like we could have been killed very easily. I'm considering carrying a concealed permit.[/QUOTE]I have a concealed carry permit. I usually leave the gun in the car. I wonder what they would say if they happened to see the outline or the gun.

Anyone had experience with this?

Until things cool down a bit, I'm with you. I'm not visiting.

[QUOTE=DocHolliday35;5267949]Yep, while laying face down and naked. Or having sex when the door busts open by a lunatic gunman. I will have to stick to hotels as at least the door locks.[/QUOTE]

I think as long as you were able to keep it 100% concealed you would be alright. But if they saw it they would think you were the police or had ill intent. The other problem is if you are required to leave room for table shower or saunas. I don't think it would be a good idea to leave it unattended. If you do carry, but leave it in car, for the love of god spend the 50 dollars and get a lock box for your car. The glove box or under your seat is not sufficient. It's a calculated risk. In all honesty you are more at risk in the parking lot vs actually in the spa. I am about as paranoid as can be. I think this incident was a once in a hundred year events. I would worry more about a straight up robbery at a spa then another avenger. I avoid Atl after dark. I scurry around during the day and head out of town at dusk. With that being said I realize most beefs at the clubs I go to are about past beefs, bad deals or " disrespect" none of which apply to me. I don't know these people and is too old to be a challenge to their respect. I elect not to talk about my opinions on Trump, blm and prison reform at the club. So thankfully the worse things that might happen to me is being ignored. In closing everywhere you go you are a target. If you like me find it hard to relax, but still need to engage in hobby it will be well worth it to spend the extra cash. Get a hotel room and lock door once she's in. Stay safe.

[QUOTE=RedneckStud;5268015]I have a concealed carry permit. I usually leave the gun in the car. I wonder what they would say if they happened to see the outline or the gun.

Anyone had experience with this?[/QUOTE]I'm guessing a month ago they wouldn't have given it a second thought, but now they might panic, might even leave the room and call the police being subtle about it.

I'll stand by my opinion though if you don't feel safe entering a business without a gun, probably should skip going there unless you absolutely have to.

[QUOTE=RedneckStud;5268015]I have a concealed carry permit. I usually leave the gun in the car. I wonder what they would say if they happened to see the outline or the gun.

Anyone had experience with this?[/QUOTE]I too have a permit. I carry everywhere, years before this happened. The gun is useless in the car and also just gives a scumbum the opportunity to steal your gun and use it in ways that you would not want it used. The places I go to know that I carry and they are good with it, especially now, but then they have known me for a long time and they know I won't back down from a situation. New places might be different though since this is so fresh and they will probably be frightened at the sight or the appearance of a gun. In that case the emphasis should be on the term "conceal" so that they don't see it. As a responsible gun owner I'm sure that you know what to do and what will be the right call to make.

[QUOTE=RedneckStud;5268015]I have a concealed carry permit. I usually leave the gun in the car. I wonder what they would say if they happened to see the outline or the gun.

Anyone had experience with this?[/QUOTE]I carry in general (point of clarity, Georgia has a Firearms Permit, not a concealed carry permit; if you have a GA Firearms permit, you can carry open or conceal), but if I visited a spa I would leave it in the glovebox.

If you aren't going to be in possession of your gun for some period of time, which is going to happen in a spa, it's better not to have it. I mean, you can't really take it to the table shower with you, so at least for a few minutes it's in your *unlocked* spa room. When you're fucking, you're not going to be wearing it or have it on hand. I guess you could set it on the little table with the lotions and tissues, but again, there are just times when YOU are not really in control of the gun; I mean, if she's riding you asian cowgirl, she has an easier reach for it, since you need to kind of twist around. It just doesn't work.

(I guess if it's jacket season you could pocket-carry a microcompact like a P938 or a LC9 and drape your jacket on the chair so you could reach and draw pretty quickly, but you still have the unattended firearm during the table shower.).

Part of the appeal of AMPs (or KAMPs, at least) is that in general there is SOME kind of admittance process. Usually you go up, and there might be an intercom, or at least a little waiting room before you actually enter the facility. In theory, even leaving clothes in the room to go to the table shower is an exercise in "I hope my clothes will still be here", but at least you've gone through 3-4 doors and a mamas to get into the room. Frankly, they need buzz-in security at any AMP, but if this guy had patronized these places, they'd have buzzed him in anyway. Still, a little more secure.

O.

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5267990]You've got a better chance getting shot and killed at any Atlanta convenience store / gas station. If you think it's all of a sudden dangerous to go to a massage parlor because one crazy (who is in custody) got stupid because he was horny you need to lay off the liberal cool aid.

Do you remember when a whack job shot up a mcdonalds some years back killing like 17 people? So did you think it was dangerous to go to mcdonalds after that? You can get killed anywhere anytime, for no reason. I'm all for getting a weapons license, but that's because no place in the country is safe, but a massage joint is no more dangerous than the grocery store. Heck in the past year been many grocery store shootings over masks.[/QUOTE]Wasn't that in California somewhere? I think they bulldozed the building and put up a memorial.

[QUOTE=EarlSandwich;5267878]Out of curiosity, are any of the three now infamous spas reviewed here? Are they R&Ts or legit?

If they're R&Ts and the victims have family, etc. That the press is reporting on, doesn't that skew the narrative that these places are part of some international trafficking ring out of flushing NY and that their passports are confiscated and they're forced to sleep in the shop in squalid conditions?[/QUOTE]All three parlors been reviewed extensively over the years. Young's was a Chinese parlor (rub and tug) and the other two were Korean parlors (full service). Those women are not trafficked in any way. Koreans are usually recruited from Korea but not forced into anything. Their network allows them to move around freely to different parlors in the States and they even have their own "taxi" system to move them around.

Yes, Flushing, NY has a shit ton of Koreans and there's a lot of shady stuff that happens there (mostly gambling and real estate dealings), but forcing women to work against their will is not one of them.

[QUOTE=DocHolliday35;5267949]Yep, while laying face down and naked. Or having sex when the door busts open by a lunatic gunman. I will have to stick to hotels as at least the door locks.[/QUOTE]I would not panic in the least over this. I believe it's a one-off and not likely to happen for a long time, if ever. I liken the chances to a woman with huge tits removing her bra at a weak spot on the San Andreas fault and causing Armageddon. Could happen? Yeah, but not fucking likely!

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5268465]Wasn't that in California somewhere? I think they bulldozed the building and put up a memorial.[/QUOTE]Lubbock Texas in the 80's.

[QUOTE=Fretz;5268550]Lubbock Texas in the 80's.[/QUOTE]No, it was in San Diego back in 1984. Twenty-one people were killed.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5268486]I would not panic in the least over this. I believe it's a one-off and not likely to happen for a long time, if ever. I liken the chances to a woman with huge tits removing her bra at a weak spot on the San Andreas fault and causing Armageddon. Could happen? Yeah, but not fucking likely![/QUOTE]Absolutely this. It was an anomaly.

If anything, massage joints are even safer now. And will be for a little while. Than they were before. Heightened threat awareness does that.

O.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5268570]No, it was in San Diego back in 1984. Twenty-one people were killed.[/QUOTE]The one I was thinking was at a Luby's.

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Someone break this down for me.

If sex work is care work, I need a new career.