I haven't yet, only SA, but I'm curious if anyone has had good luck there? Many of the accounts look legit.
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I haven't yet, only SA, but I'm curious if anyone has had good luck there? Many of the accounts look legit.
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5526338]There isn't a one-size-fits-all answer to that question. I'll just describe what has mostly worked for me.
Usually I like to have a meet-and-greet at some public place (usually these days that is someplace we can eat and drink and talk outside) before getting down to serious action. I will usually give a girl $50 or $100 for such a meet and greet, but that is strictly a one-time thing. Either we move on to other things or we never see each other again. It can easily go either way.
For our more private meetings, I prefer getting a discreet hotel room. Since I travel to Seattle on business this can work out pretty well. PPM arrangement prices very much depend on the girl, and can be as low as $200 and on up into the stratosphere. For actual longer-term allowances that can vary a lot to. I've had a few that worked out well (a few meetings a month) for $1500/ month, and some more expensive ones that bluntly provided very little additional value and a lot more drama and trauma. Usually I don't expect such an arrangement to last more than about six months.[/QUOTE]Great guide. You should also browse this thread for some easy sure things. Getting the experience under your belt and learning how to weed out the girls that have GPS or online scammers is valuable.
[QUOTE=Rousse;5526812]Red-headed gal? Yeah, everyone has a kink. I think she got it in a divorce though. Not the same as sustainable income.[/QUOTE]Nailed it. Sent you a PM.
[QUOTE=Rjx1234;5526780]Most likely fake. The pics are Aspen Ora, porn star.
Google image search is useful in these situations.[/QUOTE]I know I've said it before, but I don't trust anyone with professional pictures like that.
[QUOTE=Rjx1234;5526780]Most likely fake. The pics are Aspen Ora, porn star.
Google image search is useful in these situations.[/QUOTE]However this is the area where Aspen lives. She's a bikini barista too and is incredibly chill, I know she had an ad on here about a year ago that was valid. Who knows, this might be real.
I just got banned from SA! I've heard you guys talk about this happening but I never thought it would happen to me. I've been a loyal subscriber for so long. How can they do this to me?!
[QUOTE=TnaPorter;5529061]I just got banned from SA! I've heard you guys talk about this happening but I never thought it would happen to me. I've been a loyal subscriber for so long. How can they do this to me?![/QUOTE]Because they run their site in a completely deranged way. I found this out the hard way. A lot of girls on there get their premium memberships by working as "moderators" who look at private messages for inappropriate content. So chances are you've met a girl on there who has read all of your private messages. Like any other woman, they can get jealous or just decide you pissed them off and then they will get "even" with you by banning you.
Since as "moderators" they will also see your support email asking why you got banned don't hold your breath on getting any reply, much less one that makes sense.
I know this because I got banned for a completely silly reason literally hours after having a falling out with a girl who was a moderator, and the same girl logged onto SA and showed me messages she could see to and from other users.
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5529086]I know this because I got banned for a completely silly reason literally hours after having a falling out with a girl who was a moderator, and the same girl logged onto SA and showed me messages she could see to and from other users.[/QUOTE]That sucks man. Somehow it is not surprising even though it sounds so scandalous. There is no way that site can moderate such a large board. They have members helping them. A complete conflict of interest but I can actually see big business do that to "save" costs.
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I know this because I got banned for a completely silly reason literally hours after having a falling out with a girl who was a moderator, and the same girl logged onto SA and showed me messages she could see to and from other users.[/QUOTE]I don't bother with arguing with some of the real stupid ones, I just block them. I had one a few days ago with some sob story that her car broke down, she left her boyfriend because he was abusive and has no money, no job, no place to live and no car. So, I messaged her and asked her how can I help her and she has some smart ass response, "you see what my problems are, figure it out". So, I'd tried to get some sort of specifics, plus if I'm giving, I want to know what I'm receiving in exchange. I'm not on that site for gratitude. How much money does she want? What do I get in return? Her response again was some smart ass comment that she just told me what she needed, but I can start out by giving her a car. At no point did she even hint that I would get anything but a "thank you". I was going to explain how the site works, then I realized she's just a pain in the ass and blocked her.
[QUOTE=TnaPorter;5529061]I just got banned from SA! I've heard you guys talk about this happening but I never thought it would happen to me. I've been a loyal subscriber for so long. How can they do this to me?![/QUOTE]I've been on SA, off and on for 10 years. I have never been banned. About 10 days ago, I received a warning. That is the first warning I have ever received. They did not tell me the reason for the warning; they just talked about their terms of service. They forced me to scroll through a long document containing their rules and terms of service. They also forced me to watch a short video. I have NEVER had an online dispute or argument. I am always polite. I never talk about sexual activity in my messages. Depending on the girl, I will sometimes say "I'm looking for an intimate arrangement" or "I gave my last sugar baby 300 each time she visited". Apparently, one of these statement triggered the warning but I don't know which one.
[QUOTE=Michael1967;5529142]... I just block them. ... [/QUOTE]Yes, there are lots of fish in that sea and you just never have time to sort them all out. So if they make it easy for you take advantage of it.
I've blocked arrangement girls for:
[LIST]Outrageously lying about where they are located. (E.G. Instead of George, WA they are in the country of Georgia).[/LIST][LIST]Wanting to sell me pics or videos.[/LIST][LIST]Asking for outrageous amounts of money.[/LIST][LIST]Asking for any amount of money before meeting.[/LIST][LIST]Wanting me to log into some other site so we can chat.[/LIST][LIST]Having too much attitude. First impressions are important and if the first impression you make is that you are a bossy b*tch I'm just not that interested.[/LIST][LIST]If their pictures show they are obviously grossly fat.[/LIST]
And any other reason.
As for that girl who got me banned, I texted her on a Sunday night to reschedule our meeting for that coming Thursday, because I had a family emergency. Monday morning I was about to hop on a plane to deal with that family emergency and she blew up my burner phone with about 100 texts. So I blocked her on the phone and the SA app, and by the time I landed she had banned me.
[QUOTE=TnaPorter;5529061]I just got banned from SA! I've heard you guys talk about this happening but I never thought it would happen to me. I've been a loyal subscriber for so long. How can they do this to me?![/QUOTE]I've been banned 3 times LOL, that site is ridiculous makes you pay all that money and if a girl is having a bad day can ban you in a second.
They have banned me in the past and I realized that they are on the hands of women operating the site. I had enough and no longer give them my money. I only have a non paying account to keep up to date with my current babies.
I've noticed they started a very aggressive campaign of 25% and 33% membership discounts. That tells me they are hurting for business. I think it would be great if the majority of us don't pay them subscriptions for a while so they get the message that women operating the site causes abuses of power on their part and hurts their business. Hopefully that will make them be more friendly to male subscribers. I bet a couple of months of male subscribers loss of revenue will help them to reach that conclusion.
[QUOTE=TnaPorter;5529061]I just got banned from SA! I've heard you guys talk about this happening but I never thought it would happen to me. I've been a loyal subscriber for so long. How can they do this to me?![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5529086]Because they run their site in a completely deranged way. I found this out the hard way. A lot of girls on there get their premium memberships by working as "moderators" who look at private messages for inappropriate content. So chances are you've met a girl on there who has read all of your private messages. Like any other woman, they can get jealous or just decide you pissed them off and then they will get "even" with you by banning you.
Since as "moderators" they will also see your support email asking why you got banned don't hold your breath on getting any reply, much less one that makes sense.
I know this because I got banned for a completely silly reason literally hours after having a falling out with a girl who was a moderator, and the same girl logged onto SA and showed me messages she could see to and from other users.[/QUOTE]SERIOUSLY?! I've gone through periods of time on the site where I only message premium members thinking it was from their college email address that they got it for free. Geeeez. I don't think I would want any woman to see the messaging I do on the site before meeting.
Talk about lack of privacy. Is this in the disclaimer / disclosures?
I may stop messaging premium members over this.
[QUOTE=MyNickname;5529797]They have banned me in the past and I realized that they are on the hands of women operating the site. I had enough and no longer give them my money. I only have a non paying account to keep up to date with my current babies.
I've noticed they started a very aggressive campaign of 25% and 33% membership discounts. That tells me they are hurting for business. I think it would be great if the majority of us don't pay them subscriptions for a while so they get the message that women operating the site causes abuses of power on their part and hurts their business. Hopefully that will make them be more friendly to male subscribers. I bet a couple of months of male subscribers loss of revenue will help them to reach that conclusion.[/QUOTE]I also noticed they were pushing a 25% discount on me before they killed my account. What's odd about my banning is that I actually had not messaged a woman on there in quite a while even though my subscription was active. I wonder who complained about me. Even though I agree that a boycott of paying subscription fees will get them to change, but I'm not going to lie. It's such a better option than STG, TNA, or anything else I've seen. I'm definitely bummed out here.