I haven't been to Ping's since ownership changed. Have any of you guys been to Ping's recently? Send me a PM if you feel more comfortable. Thanks.
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I haven't been to Ping's since ownership changed. Have any of you guys been to Ping's recently? Send me a PM if you feel more comfortable. Thanks.
[QUOTE=Huckelberry1;4101242]Down from Cincy and don't see a mongers iso so thought I would put here. Looking for the best place close to the village. Saw a ton of ads on the way and even drove by one off 75 I think in a gas station?? If someone can guide me I'd appreciate it. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Pings used to be my go to place but haven't been there since it has changed hands and I've heard a lot of bad reports. May be better now. Villages has a pretty open menu. The one off 75 in Wildwood doesn't have the greatest looking staff but they have a nice table shower and you'll leave happy at the standard rates. Not much on the menu. Same goes for Best and Lakeview. Of course, YMMV.
So I went back to the same spot that I went to Saturday. Greeted by the same 33 year old Asian. Last time I said she was 32 but that was a mistake. When I got there she put me in another room and I waited 30 minutes for her to finish another customer. When she got back she took me to a room more comfortable, and I wanted to begin negotiation right away. I asked her what all is available. She asked, 'What you mean?' I repeated and she starts French kissing me. After she leaves and comes back, I'm naked and I tell her what I want. We negotiate. I lifted her shirt up. Wow! Fake tits but I wanted to take them home. Beautiful tits. I suck them and then tell her I will go down on her and she will go down on me. She was hesitant but I guided her to lay on the massage table and I slowly slid off her short pants. No objections, just a bit surprised when I started to slide it down. Light curly Bush in her pubic area, but the actual vagina area was shaved nicely. I dove right in for the DATY. Seems like she just might've shaved too because I could feel her short stubble against my face. I kissed around it and buried my mouth deep into her. She thrusted her pelvis up and moaned, then my right hand interlocked with her left hand. She wrapped her legs around my head, with her feet on my back. She was so wet. Soon she grabbed my head softly and lifted it up. Mission accomplished. My first DATY. Now I see what all the fuss is about. Great tasting Asian Pie. I spontaneously tell her that I want to put my dick in her. Surprisingly she agrees, after a quick negotiation. I pull out a condom put it on then, decided I wanted a BJ first so I took it off. I told her kiss it for me. No hesitation. I laid back on the table as she started to lick it all around like it was ice cream. Then she put it in her mouth and started to really return the favor that I did for her. I marked the area on my shaft where I wanted her to try to reach for the deep throat. She tried. She put back the same condom on me, after telling me its still usable. "Its well. " In her words. She puts it on for me, and I she laid back on the table. She guided me inside of her. I basically made love to her. We stared into each others eyes, and she asks me, "Are you happy?" I tell her, "Very. " I pull out of her, take the condom off, and let her suck me, as I laid on the table again. Then we changed positions. I sat on the chair as she continued the BBBJ. She was throat me. I asked if I could cum in her mouth but she said no. She jacks me off and when I was ready to cum I had to stand up to aim it right on her right titties. Great shot that left a long streak on it. She grabs a tissue and cleans it up. On my way out I tell her I want another 30 minute session. She puts me in another room, takes care of a customer, and we do it again but quicker. She gave me the condom wrapped up in tissue, but then wanted it back so she could flush it down the toilet I guess. I kiss her again then I'm out the door. My first DATY and CFS along with the BBBJ. My greatest AMP experience. Cost me 60 plus $$ tip. Second session 40, with no tip.
[QUOTE=Shaft22;4104399]So I went back to the same spot that I went to Saturday. Greeted by the same 33 year old Asian. Last time I said she was 32 but that was a mistake. When I got there she put me in another room and I waited 30 minutes for her to finish another customer. When she got back she took me to a room more comfortable, and I wanted to begin negotiation right away. I asked her what all is available. She asked, 'What you mean?' I repeated and she starts French kissing me. After she leaves and comes back, I'm naked and I tell her what I want. We negotiate. I lifted her shirt up. Wow! Fake tits but I wanted to take them home. Beautiful tits. I suck them and then tell her I will go down on her and she will go down on me. She was hesitant but I guided her to lay on the massage table and I slowly slid off her short pants. No objections, just a bit surprised when I started to slide it down. Light curly Bush in her pubic area, but the actual vagina area was shaved nicely. I dove right in for the DATY. Seems like she just might've shaved too because I could feel her short stubble against my face. I kissed around it and buried my mouth deep into her. She thrusted her pelvis up and moaned, then my right hand interlocked with her left hand. She wrapped her legs around my head, with her feet on my back. She was so wet. Soon she grabbed my head softly and lifted it up. Mission accomplished. My first DATY. Now I see what all the fuss is about. Great tasting Asian Pie. I spontaneously tell her that I want to put my dick in her. Surprisingly she agrees, after a quick negotiation. I pull out a condom put it on then, decided I wanted a BJ first so I took it off. I told her kiss it for me. No hesitation. I laid back on the table as she started to lick it all around like it was ice cream. Then she put it in her mouth and started to really return the favor that I did for her. I marked the area on my shaft where I wanted her to try to reach for the deep throat. She tried. She put back the same condom on me, after telling me its still usable. "Its well. " In her words. She puts it on for me, and I she laid back on the table. She guided me inside of her. I basically made love to her. We stared into each others eyes, and she asks me, "Are you happy?" I tell her, "Very. " I pull out of her, take the condom off, and let her suck me, as I laid on the table again. Then we changed positions. I sat on the chair as she continued the BBBJ. She was throat me. I asked if I could cum in her mouth but she said no. She jacks me off and when I was ready to cum I had to stand up to aim it right on her right titties. Great shot that left a long streak on it. She grabs a tissue and cleans it up. On my way out I tell her I want another 30 minute session. She puts me in another room, takes care of a customer, and we do it again but quicker. She gave me the condom wrapped up in tissue, but then wanted it back so she could flush it down the toilet I guess. I kiss her again then I'm out the door. My first DATY and CFS along with the BBBJ. My greatest AMP experience. Cost me 60 plus $$ tip. Second session 40, with no tip.[/QUOTE]Great review but wish you could provide more facility info. I understand your reasoning, but.
I wanted a good hard massage on a few joints and a good soft finish on another so my memory led me to Best. Last time I had LOL I she gave me a great deep tissue massage but the Koko I that I got isn't the same as about a year ago. The massage was ok but I suppose I've become spoiled by others in the way of teases throughout the session. I give the massage a 6 and the dream a ,4. OTC and under the top allowed but nothing special. House was the usual higher. 8 with ts and the tip. 4. Going back to my usual spots.
It always surprises me what is available at an AMP.
I have only been to a few and those were many years ago. What I really wonder is why none of these girls offer their services in an outcall setting.
[QUOTE=VeryHorny;4107112]It always surprises me what is available at an AMP.
I have only been to a few and those were many years ago. What I really wonder is why none of these girls offer their services in an outcall setting.[/QUOTE]I don't know how true it is but I had one of them tell me one time that a bus came and picked everyone up (even at some different establishments) and that they lived together. That could explain why individual outcall isn't available.
[QUOTE=PlantMan02;4108647]I don't know how true it is but I had one of them tell me one time that a bus came and picked everyone up (even at some different establishments) and that they lived together. That could explain why individual outcall isn't available.[/QUOTE]Now that is a dream job. But I think this is true. At some of the AMPs around here you will see no cars at all in the lot but plenty of gals inside. And the gals rotate back and forth between several of the Ocala / Gainesville AMPs on the same "bus route".
So I went back to my local AMP and discovered two new ladies as I walked in. There was a very short and chunky woman with so so looks but huge tits walking in the bathroom as she pointed me out to the other one. LOL, they still haven't fixed that door. I introduced myself to Mimi, not the usual looking Asian type with her haired permed and frizzy. Skinny legs, her ass fits in one hand, toys are tiny, but has a bit of a soft belly. I decided on a 30 minute including shower. I hardly got any kind of massage, pretty much tickle and squirt. 4 and good bye. I will wait for the bus to bring better skilled and attractive ladies. House got 55 for half hour with shower.
[QUOTE=Humfit7;4110200]So I went back to my local AMP and discovered two new ladies as I walked in. There was a very short and chunky woman with so so looks but huge tits walking in the bathroom as she pointed me out to the other one. LOL, they still haven't fixed that door. I introduced myself to Mimi, not the usual looking Asian type with her haired permed and frizzy. Skinny legs, her ass fits in one hand, toys are tiny, but has a bit of a soft belly. I decided on a 30 minute including shower. I hardly got any kind of massage, pretty much tickle and squirt. 4 and good bye. I will wait for the bus to bring better skilled and attractive ladies. House got 55 for half hour with shower.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I been to Maple the other day and I don't like these new women at all. It seems like they are going downhill as far as attractive ladies. They don't always have to be bombshells but shit. Where are they getting these ladies from nowadays. I believe Maple is getting lazy because they probably have a consistent clientele, which included me. However, with the 2 ladies that they have now, I won't be visiting there for a while.
Thought I would try this place. Went in the late morning, no other cars around. Sign was lit up "open. " Rang the bell 3 times, finally a girl lets me in. Paid for an hour, led to room. Undressed, she came back in and lowered the lights. Decent massage, nothing great. Not much of a tease after the massage and hot towel wipe off. No convo during massage.
Flipped, she started the HJ. Asked her to drop the top, she replied 80 for that, 60 for clothes on, 100 for all clothes off. Tried to negotiate to no avail. Felt them OTC, seemed nice but couldn't tell if they were enhanced or not.
Finished the HJ with a nice technique and hot towel clean up. Asked her name, she said "Yuki" (of course).
One of the nicest places I've been to as far as decorations and cleanliness. Don't think I will repeat.
Decided to have some maple syrup for dessert. I arrived to find a frizzy headed hostess who offered me a full multi course meal for reasonable pricing. I chose the muffins with a large side of milk for the finale. All in all not a bad meal I may repeat in the future. I also found out that Yuyu should be back from vacation on Friday (this week).
So I had a couple free hours one day last week and called Pings for an "appointment".
It was 10:30 and I wasn't far away so I called and said I wanted Annie for an hour and a half at 11:00. Girl said Annie was here and I had the "appointment". I said see you in a half hour.
I roll in at 10:50 and say I'm here for Annie. New girl behind the counter, Julie isn't back yet, say "you come back". I said I'll wait. She said you come back. I said for 10 minutes? She said no you come back in hour.
I said I have an" appointment". She said man come in 10 min after you called.
Then as I was leaving pretty pissed she said you coming back?
"Fuck no that's why I made an appointment".
Well I won't do that again, screwed up my day and really pissed me off.
But it is all about the money isn't it and I guess on up side I saved 3 .
Wouldn't have happened if Katie were still here.
[QUOTE=MacSaman;4127067]So I had a couple free hours one day last week and called Pings for an "appointment".
It was 10:30 and I wasn't far away so I called and said I wanted Annie for an hour and a half at 11:00. Girl said Annie was here and I had the "appointment". I said see you in a half hour.
I roll in at 10:50 and say I'm here for Annie. New girl behind the counter, Julie isn't back yet, say "you come back". I said I'll wait. She said you come back. I said for 10 minutes? She said no you come back in hour.
I said I have an" appointment". She said man come in 10 min after you called.
Then as I was leaving pretty pissed she said you coming back?
"Fuck no that's why I made an appointment".
Well I won't do that again, screwed up my day and really pissed me off.
But it is all about the money isn't it and I guess on up side I saved 3 .
Wouldn't have happened if Katie were still here.[/QUOTE]Right after Ping's changed ownership I stopped by for a massage. Julie tells me that they are busy and can I come back in an hour. She then tries to hit me up for the door fee in advance. Not happening.
I stop back exactly 50 minutes later and Julie tells me to stop back in 2 hours. I was pretty pissed and haven't been back to Ping's since.
Needed a massage and shower so I swung by to see Lisa at Asian. I took the hour with a shower for. 8. She did a good job on the shower but wouldn't wash everything. The massage was great as usual with frequent inquiries as to my comfort. Numerous interruptions during the hour so she extended it by half. I keep forgetting how good her massages are until I stop by again. Straight massage, no he or extras, DIY is ok.
[QUOTE=PlantMan02;4108647]I don't know how true it is but I had one of them tell me one time that a bus came and picked everyone up (even at some different establishments) and that they lived together. That could explain why individual outcall isn't available.[/QUOTE]They don't take a bus they live there. Eat, sleep, shower laundry. Show up an hour early, no one in, no one out' but the open sign comes on right on time.
I went to Pings once early and they hadn't finished breakfast. Boiled eggs and still had to put on their make up.
[QUOTE=OilChanger;4109580]Now that is a dream job. But I think this is true. At some of the AMPs around here you will see no cars at all in the lot but plenty of gals inside. And the gals rotate back and forth between several of the Ocala / Gainesville AMPs on the same "bus route".[/QUOTE]There are no cars there because they live there. Sleep eat, shower and laundry.
Show up an hour before they open. No one in, no one out but the open light goes on.
Took a short rode to lakeview the other evening. Standard. 70 house with ts. Shower table is nice v but not in a per say room. Use water hose hooked to kitchen sink. Works and great got water and decent shower with attention to junior boys and friend around back. Got back to room lights dimmed music good medium pressure with hot oil. Lasted 45 minutes. Then teasing but not like normal she started lubeing up the ol tooth less 1. Starts out gently sees I'm good with it and then gently goes full bore with the thumb. Teasing from under while thumbing. Flip over starts more teasing and plenty of utc roaming up top and otc down below. Takes her time and really gets I to it. Gets on top straddles and finishes. Warm towel clean up help with dressing. Gave her a. 50 tip and a hug. Plan on going back very soon.
[QUOTE=DougMarks;4133860]Took a short rode to lakeview the other evening. Standard. 70 house with ts. Shower table is nice v but not in a per say room. Use water hose hooked to kitchen sink. Works and great got water and decent shower with attention to junior boys and friend around back. Got back to room lights dimmed music good medium pressure with hot oil. Lasted 45 minutes. Then teasing but not like normal she started lubeing up the ol tooth less 1. Starts out gently sees I'm good with it and then gently goes full bore with the thumb. Teasing from under while thumbing. Flip over starts more teasing and plenty of utc roaming up top and otc down below. Takes her time and really gets I to it. Gets on top straddles and finishes. Warm towel clean up help with dressing. Gave her a. 50 tip and a hug. Plan on going back very soon.[/QUOTE]Get her name?
[QUOTE=DougMarks;4133860]Took a short rode to lakeview the other evening. Standard. 70 house with ts. Shower table is nice v but not in a per say room. Use water hose hooked to kitchen sink. Works and great got water and decent shower with attention to junior boys and friend around back. Got back to room lights dimmed music good medium pressure with hot oil. Lasted 45 minutes. Then teasing but not like normal she started lubeing up the ol tooth less 1. Starts out gently sees I'm good with it and then gently goes full bore with the thumb. Teasing from under while thumbing. Flip over starts more teasing and plenty of utc roaming up top and otc down below. Takes her time and really gets I to it. Gets on top straddles and finishes. Warm towel clean up help with dressing. Gave her a. 50 tip and a hug. Plan on going back very soon.[/QUOTE]Where is this place? Is Lakeview an AMP or not? I have been reading these boards forever and this is the first review on this place that I can recall. Can I get more than just a handy there?
[QUOTE=DougMarks;4133860]Took a short rode to lakeview the other evening. Standard. 70 house with ts. Shower table is nice v but not in a per say room. Use water hose hooked to kitchen sink. Works and great got water and decent shower with attention to junior boys and friend around back. Got back to room lights dimmed music good medium pressure with hot oil. Lasted 45 minutes. Then teasing but not like normal she started lubeing up the ol tooth less 1. Starts out gently sees I'm good with it and then gently goes full bore with the thumb. Teasing from under while thumbing. Flip over starts more teasing and plenty of utc roaming up top and otc down below. Takes her time and really gets I to it. Gets on top straddles and finishes. Warm towel clean up help with dressing. Gave her a. 50 tip and a hug. Plan on going back very soon.[/QUOTE]Glad to see they finally got a shower. I have been going here since they opened in 2013 and mentioned it every time (my old reports were posted #42 and #76 before I retired from changing oil). Grace was always my favorite. Haven't been there in over 2 years now since there were so many better alternatives. Have to try it again.
[QUOTE=Hunter005;4134143]Get her name?[/QUOTE]Never ask sorry.
[QUOTE=FLMeds420;4134181]Where is this place? Is Lakeview an AMP or not? I have been reading these boards forever and this is the first review on this place that I can recall. Can I get more than just a handy there?[/QUOTE]On 441 just north of pings before Bellview.
Lakeview day spa.
[QUOTE=FranklyScarlet;4134215]Glad to see they finally got a shower. I have been going here since they opened in 2013 and mentioned it every time (my old reports were posted #42 and #76 before I retired from changing oil). Grace was always my favorite. Haven't been there in over 2 years now since there were so many better alternatives. Have to try it again.[/QUOTE]Was a little surprised to find they are ts myself. All be it rudimentary but it serves the purpose.
[QUOTE=FLMeds420;4134181]Where is this place? Is Lakeview an AMP or not? I have been reading these boards forever and this is the first review on this place that I can recall. Can I get more than just a handy there?[/QUOTE]I've given a few reviews of this place.
[QUOTE=MacSaman;4133671]There are no cars there because they live there. Sleep eat, shower and laundry.
Show up an hour before they open. No one in, no one out but the open light goes on.[/QUOTE]I asked one of Ping's girls one time where she stayed. She told me she lived with Katie while she was here from NY. I have suspected that these girls " live " at the AMP when they are off duty.
Hey does anyone know where YOYO is working? 5'2' does a teenie bopper, school girl thing. Black rimmed, glasses, chews bubble gum.
Rolls her eyes. She was at pings August and September. Oriental in October.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=MacSaman;4135921]Hey does anyone know where YOYO is working? 5'2' does a teenie bopper, school girl thing. Black rimmed, glasses, chews bubble gum.
Rolls her eyes. She was at pings August and September. Oriental in October.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yoyo was one of my favorites at Ping's. Great head game. Both her and Michelle used to come down from NY for several months. Unfortunately due to the change in ownership, I don't we will be seeing Yoyo anytime soon.
[QUOTE=MacSaman;4135921]Hey does anyone know where YOYO is working? 5'2' does a teenie bopper, school girl thing. Black rimmed, glasses, chews bubble gum.
Rolls her eyes. She was at pings August and September. Oriental in October.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I would love to find her again as well. Had her at Pings once and damn was she good.
Lisa at Asian was busy so I decided to stop at oriental on pine. I couldn't tell if she said Hannah or Anna. Another really good massage (not as good as Lisa's). TS was good but once again wouldn't wash everything, she did provide soap and told me to wash "it" while pointing. The drying process proved that she was willing to have some contact. No extras were offered and I didn't try this visit because of the shower scene. Someday I'll find the golden ticket of a decent massage and a happy ending.
New lady at Chi Julie, DEEP tissue massage (don't challenge her she will hurt you) with no extras. Still a good place for a legit massage with no or minimal draping.
Stopped by Maple to see if Mimi was available. Greeted by Lili a short, long haired spinner with acute AA disease and what appeared to be homegrown B+'s. I decided on an hour with a shower after to remove the oil. Not a bad medium / light rub with some light teasing. No negotiation. Left very happy. Hour. 6, shower. 1, tip. 8. YMMV.
It used to be pretty easy to see your AMP choices in an area, just look up the ads in BackPage. That is no longer the case and I don't know of any website that is consistently used across the country. When new places open these days we often find out about it when some fellow monger posts "Hey I saw a new AMP opening up on SW NE Street by the XXX store. Anybody tried it yet?" This post is immediately followed by 2-3 people saying "you found it so it is your duty to TOFTT. " That works as well as anything so let's all keep it up.
There were no Asian spas in Ocala itself until right around Christmas 2015. Now there are nine, although two are not really what I would call an "AMP". For phone numbers and maps you might want to check out the lists on forum advertiser Rub Maps.
1. Tokyo Massage 3611 SE 58th Ave (the southern branch of the best AMP in Gainesville).
2. Maple Spa 3120 SW 27th Ave.
3. Spring Spa 3423 E Silver Springs Blvd.
4. Lotus Massage 3900 NW Blitchon Rd (newest AMP opened late 2018).
AMPs 1-4 all seem to be places you will be happy to visit, but don't expect service like you get in Orlando.
5. Ocala Best Professional Asian Massage 1315 E Silver Springs Blvd (the first to open).
6. Ocala Asian Massage 8720 SW Highway 200.
7. Best Professional Massage 2012 S Pine St.
AMPs 5-7 are all run by the same people and have the same service mode: good massage, pleasant mature ladies who will tease you quite a bit then pour some oil on your hand for you to DIY.
8. Xuan Lu Spa 2453 SW 27th Ave.
9. Chi Reflexology 3100 SW College Rd (inside the mall--nuff said).
These last two are massage only and are listed here only because they are staffed by Asian ladies. Wouldn't want anybody to get upset when they find that out.
This has been a public service announcement. If you wonder why a rank newbie is posting all this stuff I should mention that I have been to most of these places multiple times but recently retired from my old job of changing oil. I will make a second post in a day or two about the six AMPs south of Ocala.
[QUOTE=HorneyBear;4138322]Stopped by Maple to see if Mimi was available. Greeted by Lili a short, long haired spinner with acute AA disease.[/QUOTE]Asian Ass disease, Noassatall, boardflat, lackaroundness, she didn't have one.
[QUOTE=OcalaDude;4136522]I would love to find her again as well. Had her at Pings once and damn was she good.[/QUOTE]No kidding! Energetic like the energizer bunny with a little round ass. I would love to have a repeat performance of my sessions at Pings with her.
[QUOTE=FranklyScarlet;4139255]It used to be pretty easy to see your AMP choices in an area, just look up the ads in BackPage. That is no longer the case and I don't know of any website that is consistently used across the country. When new places open these days we often find out about it when some fellow monger posts "Hey I saw a new AMP opening up on SW NE Street by the XXX store. Anybody tried it yet?" This post is immediately followed by 2-3 people saying "you found it so it is your duty to TOFTT. " That works as well as anything so let's all keep it up.
There were no Asian spas in Ocala itself until right around Christmas 2015. Now there are nine, although two are not really what I would call an "AMP". For phone numbers and maps you might want to check out the lists on forum advertiser Rub Maps.
1. Tokyo Massage 3611 SE 58th Ave (the southern branch of the best AMP in Gainesville).
2. Maple Spa 3120 SW 27th Ave.
3. Spring Spa 3423 E Silver Springs Blvd.
4. Lotus Massage 3900 NW Blitchon Rd (newest AMP opened late 2018).
AMPs 1-4 all seem to be places you will be happy to visit, but don't expect service like you get in Orlando.
5. Ocala Best Professional Asian Massage 1315 E Silver Springs Blvd (the first to open).
6. Ocala Asian Massage 8720 SW Highway 200.
7. Best Professional Massage 2012 S Pine St.
AMPs 5-7 are all run by the same people and have the same service mode: good massage, pleasant mature ladies who will tease you quite a bit then pour some oil on your hand for you to DIY.
8. Xuan Lu Spa 2453 SW 27th Ave.
9. Chi Reflexology 3100 SW College Rd (inside the mall--nuff said).
These last two are massage only and are listed here only because they are staffed by Asian ladies. Wouldn't want anybody to get upset when they find that out.
This has been a public service announcement. If you wonder why a rank newbie is posting all this stuff I should mention that I have been to most of these places multiple times but recently retired from my old job of changing oil. I will make a second post in a day or two about the six AMPs south of Ocala.[/QUOTE]Is Wellness no longer in business? I've always enjoyed my time there and left satisfied with the services.
[QUOTE=Hawkeye49;4139443]Is Wellness no longer in business? I've always enjoyed my time there and left satisfied with the services.[/QUOTE]They are still there and going strong as of about a month-and-a-half ago.
[QUOTE=HorneyBear;4138290]New lady at Chi Julie, DEEP tissue massage (don't challenge her she will hurt you) with no extras. Still a good place for a legit massage with no or minimal draping.[/QUOTE]Is this the place on 441 in Summerfield across from Walmart?
[QUOTE=Hawkeye49;4139443]Is Wellness no longer in business? I've always enjoyed my time there and left satisfied with the services.[/QUOTE]Too many spas to put in one list so will do a second post today. Yes, Wellness is alive and "Well".
[QUOTE=LuvPlaying;4139585]Is this the place on 441 in Summerfield across from Walmart?[/QUOTE]Is the place across from the Walmart in the parking lot of the movie theater in Ocala. It used to be Bamboo in the mall. Now there is a place in the mall called Chi Reflexology. Both are legit massage places but if you build a rapport with the right one at Chi Massage she might help you out a little.