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Well all my big talk came to an end. I forgave the $$$ advance with my UTR and went to a strict $ a date with no advances, no txting before 5 pm, and no blowing up my cel phone. Had a 90 minute FC date today that was non-stop action and the best sex we ever had yet. Make up sex is always the best.
I DATY'ed my UTR so deep and for so long yesterday that the underside of my tongue..... (the frenulum) is sore this morning. I am sure we have all been there and done that at some point. But damn I was missin that pussy. Eating her pussy literally gets me high.
My endorphin's were on sensory overload.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2776178]I DATY'ed my UTR so deep and for so long yesterday that the underside of my tongue..... (the frenulum) is sore this morning. I am sure we have all been there and done that at some point. But damn I was missin that pussy. Eating her pussy literally gets me high.
My endorphin's were on sensory overload.[/QUOTE]Maybe she spiked her pussy?!
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2775752]Well all my big talk came to an end. I forgave the $$$ advance with my UTR and went to a strict $ a date with no advances, no txting before 5 pm, and no blowing up my cel phone. Had a 90 minute FC date today that was non-stop action and the best sex we ever had yet. Make up sex is always the best.[/QUOTE]Damn. I think I need a scorecard to keep everything straight. Let's see if I've got this right. Batting lead off is your UTR. The ATF will be next. Will you give her the bunt sign or will you have her swing away? Batting third is the ex-GF. Next, batting cleanup is the club's new acquisition from SA, (AKA, the one in the trade "to be named later" for the former roommate.
The pitcher has an injured tongue. The pitching coach goes to the mound for a talk and returns to the dugout. It looks as if HWG will go the full game.
This is a LOT more interesting than what's happening in my life.
Higgs.
ATF. She is my number one. Her picture is permanently (so far) on my dresser. Going on 16 months and counting. Official title is "Daddys little girl". Averaging 10 dates a month. And every Friday night is a lock. Anything and everything goes in the FC. PSE GFE and she is always pushing for more, more, more. Which I am giving her slowly to keep the fire burning, so as not to burn out. I have committed to her for all of 2016 and she is collared.
UTR. She is my number two. We had a good run, got in a fight, made up, and now we are cool for at least a once a week date at the minimum rate. Still going covered for now. She is younger than my ATF so her official title is also "Daddys little girl" but also "little sister" because she defers to my ATF in every way. She messaged my ATF months ago for her approval (and she got it). She is a little brat, but it suites her.
X GF. She is now gay and moving out of state to legally marry her GF and be the wifey. We love each other so her GF is cool with us talking as most of it involves career advice and life coaching. We say I love you every time we talk and every girl I see knows that I am in love with her. But the obsession has been lifted.
SOON TO BE ROOMMATE. The ETA on the move-in is March 1st. She has a high powered sales job in BH. A new car. Cash in the bank. And she gets her own room and bathroom.
I have plans for her.
X ROOMMATE. Been using her as a paid driver here and there due to medical issues.
CURRENT HOTTEST LOOKING POT. Pictured Below. The M&G is coming within a few days. A "no sex, no money" date at a starbucks. Professional legit dancer in the entertainment industry. She knows my pay scale but is unaware of my social life at this point.
PLUS the usual chatting with multiple lower level pots, some of whom have already had their eyes opened as to my status and could care less.
GF. I don't have one & don't need or want one. The true love for my X keeps that in check.
I have to do it this way to keep everything balanced as my real number one is work.
And absolutely nothing can get in the way of that for any reason.
Because America is Going to be Great Again.
I am not posting until I see at least five posts after this one.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2777125]
I have to do it this way to keep everything balanced as my real number one is work.
And absolutely nothing can get in the way of that for any reason.
Because America is Going to be Great Again.[/QUOTE]Hey HG you strike me a as a Trump guy?
This will get the ball rolling.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2783241]I am not posting until I see at least five posts after this one.[/QUOTE]I'll be able to say more after the court decree in March. Then I'll be getting a rechargeable CC and a membership in SA.
Higgs.
[QUOTE=HiggsBoson;2783524]I'll be able to say more after the court decree in March. Then I'll be getting a rechargeable CC and a membership in SA.[/QUOTE]And yes, that will make America Great Again. (grin).
Higgs.
I've always been curious about how you indoctrinate your friends into poly-sugary. I'm very suprised that you don't deal with a lot of tension and passive-agressive hostility.
Most Regular girls are not into this. I have to show them how I am capable of complex relationships. Even the gurlfriends don't like polyamory. They call the other girls out as, the ex-friend. Etc. Maybe I have to deal with this because I am still looked upon as a potential mate. It's a curse and a blessing.
Is there any secret?
I sent a first email to one pretty 18 why / o in Orlando. All I said was "Hi!
This is the response I got, "$4000 I'm still in high school but I am 18. This is prime pussy. ".
Certainly got right to the point. I don't know if that's per month, per visit, what's involved. Naturally, I passed. Told her she didn't really understand what an SD / SB arrangement was really all about.
[QUOTE=Christophe1;2784974]I've always been curious about how you indoctrinate your friends into poly-sugary. I'm very suprised that you don't deal with a lot of tension and passive-agressive hostility.
Most Regular girls are not into this. I have to show them how I am capable of complex relationships. Even the gurlfriends don't like polyamory. They call the other girls out as, the ex-friend. Etc. Maybe I have to deal with this because I am still looked upon as a potential mate. It's a curse and a blessing.
Is there any secret?[/QUOTE]The secret is........ that there is no secret. It's called being honest. Many women love the idea of being near a strong provider with a proven track record. It's really that simple.
Also look at the average guy. They're average. Not too exciting.
Excitement gets them wet.
[QUOTE=BigLick90;2785929]I sent a first email to one pretty 18 why / o in Orlando. All I said was "Hi!
This is the response I got, "$4000 I'm still in high school but I am 18. This is prime pussy. ".
Certainly got right to the point. I don't know if that's per month, per visit, what's involved. Naturally, I passed. Told her she didn't really understand what an SD / SB arrangement was really all about.[/QUOTE]No pussy is worth 4 k. Not even clinton.
[QUOTE=BigLick90;2785929]I sent a first email to one pretty 18 why / o in Orlando. All I said was "Hi!
This is the response I got, "$4000 I'm still in high school but I am 18. This is prime pussy. ".
Certainly got right to the point. I don't know if that's per month, per visit, what's involved. Naturally, I passed. Told her she didn't really understand what an SD / SB arrangement was really all about.[/QUOTE]Get 20 more responses. You"ll like one of them and she'll like you.
[QUOTE=Livinitup;2783499]Hey HG you strike me a as a Trump guy?
This will get the ball rolling.[/QUOTE]My ball has stopped rolling for the moment. But my new roommate will be here in a month or so. Soon as my daughter moves out she can move in. I haven't told my ATF yet. I'll just wait untill the time comes to break the news. I did tell my UTR already, because why would she care anyway. She a .....
"I love an outgoing exciting guy, who's career oriented and is open to try new things. ".
I saw this in a girls profile today. Next time you talk to a girl, or read a girls profile, just imagine that this is what she said.
Ok, so because of my current situation (divorce) I'm renting out a rm on the first flr of a 2 rm apartment. Nothing fancy. For those of you in a similar situation, how has you guys' experience been taking girls back to your substantially less than "sugar daddy" level rooms / homes. I'm young, look like in my mid to late 20's so I'm sure that doesn't help. For those that say get a room, have you noticed a difference in what kind of room you get? I imagine if you're shooting for $/ date, it'd be crazy to get a room that costs more than the SB.
Also, might as well put it out there, I'm currently working 7 days a week 8:30 AM to 9-10 PM. I wish I got paid hourly but it's a fairly young business that I started and it's the season to pay uncle sam so I'm not always working but have to be available. Ideal situation would be a girl who is down to swing by the office for a half hr and relieve some stress when I'm alone. If you know somebody trustworthy who wants some quick and easy side $ please let me know.
[QUOTE=Galaxxxy69;2762013]Just a question. For the guys that see girls regularly. Do you see them At your Home, at a Hotel, Or go to their place?
I ask this because my place does not scream Sugar Daddy. So where do you usually bed the women? Favorite Hotels also since well, its not cheap.[/QUOTE]I noticed this and the responses, just wondering if anybody else has had any experience bringing girls back to a modest place.
[QUOTE=E1775;2792348]Ok, so because of my current situation (divorce) I'm renting out a rm on the first flr of a 2 rm apartment. Nothing fancy. For those of you in a similar situation, how has you guys' experience been taking girls back to your substantially less than "sugar daddy" level rooms / homes. I'm young, look like in my mid to late 20's so I'm sure that doesn't help. For those that say get a room, have you noticed a difference in what kind of room you get? I imagine if you're shooting for $/ date, it'd be crazy to get a room that costs more than the SB.
Also, might as well put it out there, I'm currently working 7 days a week 8:30 AM to 9-10 PM. I wish I got paid hourly but it's a fairly young business that I started and it's the season to pay uncle sam so I'm not always working but have to be available. Ideal situation would be a girl who is down to swing by the office for a half hr and relieve some stress when I'm alone. If you know somebody trustworthy who wants some quick and easy side $ please let me know.[/QUOTE]Where are you located?
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2766171]This one sent me her pic and agreed to my $ with great enthusiasm. Distance may be a small problem, but her attitude is already right where I need her to be. She says she has been in training for four years already and lives for DD/lg and submission.[/QUOTE]I have a thing for tiny petite girls, but this girl looks particularly delicious. You sir are a hero.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2792371]Where are you located?[/QUOTE]In the SGV. Work near the 60 and 605 intersection.
[QUOTE=E1775;2792348]Ok, so because of my current situation (divorce) I'm renting out a rm on the first flr of a 2 rm apartment. Nothing fancy. For those of you in a similar situation, how has you guys' experience been taking girls back to your substantially less than "sugar daddy" level rooms / homes. I'm young, look like in my mid to late 20's so I'm sure that doesn't help. For those that say get a room, have you noticed a difference in what kind of room you get? I imagine if you're shooting for $/ date, it'd be crazy to get a room that costs more than the SB.
Also, might as well put it out there, I'm currently working 7 days a week 8:30 AM to 9-10 PM. I wish I got paid hourly but it's a fairly young business that I started and it's the season to pay uncle sam so I'm not always working but have to be available. Ideal situation would be a girl who is down to swing by the office for a half hr and relieve some stress when I'm alone. If you know somebody trustworthy who wants some quick and easy side $ please let me know.[/QUOTE]I'm not rich by any means, just make a good living. Currently saving money to buy a house, but in the meantime I rent a little one bedroom apartment. Nothing exciting about it at all. I've brought back a good amount of girls and nobody says anything. Have had a decent number of repeat girls, so I don't think they were turned off by it at all. As long as you treat them well, you should be okay.
The secret is in the type of women you are attracting. The way you dress, your personality and the vibe you project is the one who is attracting the type of girls who are not into sharing you. You would need to re-arrange yourself into a different type of person. HG is good at what his does and I have learn some good thing by the experiences he posted here. But, what is true is that not all girls are comfortable with it. This rule is even for any 'pimps" who said they get into women's mind and all that. Yes, it does work but not with all of them, only for the ones who enjoy giving all their money to their daddy's.
Change the way you dress, the way you look at them and your attitude and I'm sure you will get the type of women HG gets. That is if you feel attracted to that type of adventure. There are girls who simply wouldn't put out with it, in no way but there are others who don't care and are OK with it. There are other guys who do it without any money. What I meant, the type of women that notice you is the type of women you are attracting which is noooo means makes them less quality girls. They just have a different mentality. P.S. Women are good actors and some of them know how to read us, they know how to make us believe we are a genuine Casanova. Don't forget this. WOMEN do the choosing not us.
[QUOTE=Christophe1;2784974]I've always been curious about how you indoctrinate your friends into poly-sugary. I'm very suprised that you don't deal with a lot of tension and passive-agressive hostility.
Most Regular girls are not into this. I have to show them how I am capable of complex relationships. Even the gurlfriends don't like polyamory. They call the other girls out as, the ex-friend. Etc. Maybe I have to deal with this because I am still looked upon as a potential mate. It's a curse and a blessing.
Is there any secret?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DocOck;2792642]I'm not rich by any means, just make a good living. Currently saving money to buy a house, but in the meantime I rent a little one bedroom apartment. Nothing exciting about it at all. I've brought back a good amount of girls and nobody says anything. Have had a decent number of repeat girls, so I don't think they were turned off by it at all. As long as you treat them well, you should be okay.[/QUOTE]I totally agree.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2792887]Pre-grammy party girl and x roommate.
The most recent x roommate for those that don't follow along.[/QUOTE]That "ex room mate" is just gorgeous. Stop teasing us with her pics.
[QUOTE=Deerom;2793223]That "ex room mate" is just gorgeous. Stop teasing us with her pics.[/QUOTE]Then post some of your own. Someone has to. Its like years ago saying you read playboy for the articles. Sure they were interesting. But it was always the pics that kept you buying the next issue. I would love to see some other girls up here. Block out their entire face if you have to. I am not getting out much so all I have is my regs. Did a M&G yesterday. Nice girl, but not for me. Saw a bi girl last week. Same story. Soon my new roomy will be here. But that may be more professional than personal as well. Roomys usually serve a multiple purposes. Its not all about just the FC.
And as far as pics, check out "cookie jar". Its his pics that keep me hooked.
Recent entrant and first time poster!! Read through this and Richmond thread. HG. You are the man!! Let us know how it goes.
I was looking for "cookie jar" posts you mentioned earlier. I couldn't find any using the site's username search. Are they from a different forum?
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2795657]Since I have cut back on the total number FC visits per month. I just offered two girls (both 8's or 9's) $.5 and got them past the first big drop off point in my pitch. Which is when I tell them what I pay per date.
Usually girls this nice would be saying no thanks to my usual $ offer. The next big drop off point is when I tell them what they have to do to get it. I guess I'll see what happens when someone at this higher level of beauty gets that far and says yes. At least I,ll be with a hotter girl. Which is never a guarantee of skills or chemistry, So the same rule of having to meet a lot of girls will still apply. But I need a little inspiration right now.[/QUOTE]
I have cut back on the total number of FC visits per month going on a couple months now or more. So I just offered two girls (both 8's or 9's) $. 5 and got them past the first big drop off point in my pitch. Which comes just after some "hi how you doing" chit chat. Then I tell them what I pay per date.
Usually girls this nice would be saying no thanks to my normal $ offer. The next big drop off point is when I tell them what they have to do to get it. I guess I'll see what happens when someone at this higher level of beauty gets that far in the process and then says yes. At least I'll be with a hotter girl. Which is never a guarantee of skills or chemistry. But I need some inspiration right now.
So the same rule of having to meet a lot of girls will still apply. Maybe even more so.
[QUOTE=IndOc;2796081]Recent entrant and first time poster!! Read through this and Richmond thread. HG. You are the man!! Let us know how it goes.
I was looking for "cookie jar" posts you mentioned earlier. I couldn't find any using the site's username search. Are they from a different forum?[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5406-CookyJar-s-Streetwalker-Photos&p=2741225[/URL]#post2741225.
Thanks HG!! As always. You are right!! CookyJar has some great contributions to the forum. .
I just signed up for SA back in Dec myself and just signed for another month. A few M&Gs and one regular (very likely UTR) and a few POTs. Trying to schedule coffee is becoming a challenge in itself. .
Its all good though. Thank you for the valuable and insightful posts as always.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2796551][URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5406-CookyJar-s-Streetwalker-Photos&p=2741225[/URL]#post2741225.[/QUOTE]
I was given a free three month trial to Sugar Models, so I decided to check it out. Very similar setup to SA, but the caliber of the girls is higher -- most of them are models / actresses. There is some crossover between the sites, however.
First girl I talked to wanted way too much money. Second girl stated 300 per date -- I actually considered it because I had seen her before on Tinder and other social media (she's a model / fashion designer with tens of thousands of followers) and loved her alt style. We set up a date, but something came up on her end and we rainchecked. I never bothered hitting her up again.
Finally, a cute / gorgeous model (she looks kind of like if Krysten Ritter had a younger sister) and I played phone / text tag over a few weeks until we finally met for dinner. She was very bright, smart, pleasant, and of course beautiful (a little quirky too). Also has a prominent social media following. Never asked me for anything besides an uber ride to dinner. Although I had fun with her, I did find her beauty and status a little intimidating. Drove her home and she gave me a sweet peck on the cheek. Haven't spoken to her since though.
All in all, an interesting site with a smaller selection pool, but higher quality women. Of course, that means higher expectations.
And happy V-day, everybody. Hope you all have a baby (or babies) for tonight.
[QUOTE=DocOck;2797123]I was given a free three month trial to Sugar Models, so I decided to check it out. Very similar setup to SA, but the caliber of the girls is higher -- most of them are models / actresses. There is some crossover between the sites, however.
First girl I talked to wanted way too much money. Second girl stated 300 per date -- I actually considered it because I had seen her before on Tinder and other social media (she's a model / fashion designer with tens of thousands of followers) and loved her alt style. We set up a date, but something came up on her end and we rainchecked. I never bothered hitting her up again.
Finally, a cute / gorgeous model (she looks kind of like if Krysten Ritter had a younger sister) and I played phone / text tag over a few weeks until we finally met for dinner. She was very bright, smart, pleasant, and of course beautiful (a little quirky too). Also has a prominent social media following. Never asked me for anything besides an uber ride to dinner. Although I had fun with her, I did find her beauty and status a little intimidating. Drove her home and she gave me a sweet peck on the cheek. Haven't spoken to her since though.
All in all, an interesting site with a smaller selection pool, but higher quality women. Of course, that means higher expectations.
And happy V-day, everybody. Hope you all have a baby (or babies) for tonight.[/QUOTE]So far it sounds like some starving models looking for a free meal.
I hope you prove me wrong in future reports.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2797130]So far it sounds like some starving models looking for a free meal.
I hope you prove me wrong in future reports.[/QUOTE]My trial ends in a few weeks (I had signed up for it late last year, when there were like 10 girls on there) and I'm not going to mess with it anymore. I've been exclusively seeing one girl I met off SA for about a month now -- beautiful, smart, wicked sense of humor and has never asked me for a dime (I've even offered to help out with things from time to time and she never accepts).
Whats the website for sugar models?
[QUOTE=Tipisil;2797318]Whats the website for sugar models?[/QUOTE][URL]sugarmodels.com[/URL]
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2766050]The economy is going up & I don't intend on missing out due to lack of control in any way.
My job dictates that I be in total control of my hours, my clients, and my ability to scale.
The only way I can do that is to be in total control of my "little girl".[/QUOTE]To each his own. But I don't see much fun playing with a subby girl when regular vanilla girls out in the world are mostly natural submissive. Occasionally and with the right girl I could do that but a bratty dominant girl gets me turned on very good. LOL. I have friends unlike who are into subby girls too. Jejeje. Enjoy your kink colleague.
Yes, I totally agree with HG.
I will start posting pix too.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2793242]Then post some of your own. Someone has to. Its like years ago saying you read playboy for the articles. Sure they were interesting. But it was always the pics that kept you buying the next issue. I would love to see some other girls up here. Block out their entire face if you have to. I am not getting out much so all I have is my regs. Did a M&G yesterday. Nice girl, but not for me. Saw a bi girl last week. Same story. Soon my new roomy will be here. But that may be more professional than personal as well. Roomys usually serve a multiple purposes. Its not all about just the FC.
And as far as pics, check out "cookie jar". Its his pics that keep me hooked.[/QUOTE]
I think I am down to just my ATF. Fine with me. Time to look for someone new.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2799140]I think I am down to just my ATF. Fine with me. Time to look for someone new.[/QUOTE]Down to one? What happened? But you also have a new roommate lined up, right?
Higgs.
[QUOTE=HiggsBoson;2799143]Down to one? What happened? But you also have a new roommate lined up, right?
Higgs.[/QUOTE]Down to one. My hours at work increased, and I am mildly disabled, so everyone has to uber to me. Not too worried. At least I can offer a little more when its waranted. And the roommate is more about something else. Not sure the sex thing is going to be much. I just don't like being totally alone. And don't like hanging with my main girls outside the FC. I am sure once the new year resolutions fade a bit that things will pick up. Right now people still have unrealistic expectations. That will change as the year progresses.