Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=John2526; 1647171]Bad experience with Ruby (40's and not very attractive). Half hour session.

I left. 6 on the table. She requested 1. I said I'd only pay what I'd put out.

She faced away from me and finished the session as quickly as humanly possible.

I've had good sessions there, but this is the second time I've had money issues with a homely older provider.

The last time I gave. 7, and he woman stuck out her hand for more (which I didn't give). When she said goodbye, she said "next time, bring more money."

I don't need to take sh*t like that for mediocre service.[/QUOTE]Some guys may get upset with me about saying this, but it has to be said. You should not tip more than $40. 00 for a hand job. If the girl is YOUNG, PRETTY and FRIENDLY and let you ROAM FREELY with the handjob, then you might tip $50. 00. Or give her $40. 00 and tell her a $10. 00 tip for her treating you so nice. There is no way that you should pay $100. 00 for a handjob, especially with a old, homely provider. No way. Myself, I explain to the girls that $100. 00 are for FS girls only. If the girls get upset, then I usually get dressed and leave. The chances of you getting good service will be nil.

I don't think complaining to the mamasan will change anything. The mamasan cares about the right house fee only. The girls freelance for themselves in the rooms. Mamsan will see nothing wrong with the price the girls are asking, since most mamasans will get a percentage of what the girls make. I am sorry to hear about the bad service, but I am happy you stuck to your plan.

Propilot-Always check your six.

[QUOTE=Propilot; 1647204]Some guys may get upset with me about saying this, but it has to be said. You should not tip more than $40. 00 for a hand job. If the girl is YOUNG, PRETTY and FRIENDLY and let you ROAM FREELY with the handjob, then you might tip $50. 00. Or give her $40. 00 and tell her a $10. 00 tip for her treating you so nice. There is no way that you should pay $100. 00 for a handjob, especially with a old, homely provider. No way. Myself, I explain to the girls that $100. 00 are for FS girls only. If the girls get upset, then I usually get dressed and leave. The chances of you getting good service will be nil.

I don't think complaining to the mamasan will change anything. The mamasan cares about the right house fee only. The girls freelance for themselves in the rooms. Mamsan will see nothing wrong with the price the girls are asking, since most mamasans will get a percentage of what the girls make. I am sorry to hear about the bad service, but I am happy you stuck to your plan.

Propilot-Always check your six.[/QUOTE]If house fees (and commissions) trail off because customers stop coming back, management will care.

The time my. 7 was insulted I considered telling Mamasan that if. 7 wasn't a good tip there, I wouldn't be back.

Today I shopped for other options in the same general vicinity.

Was the last attendant "Jenny?" She's 30, and so could pass for 20-something.

[QUOTE=AngleOfRepose;1646955]I am not sure why RL has a questionable reputation. The shopping center used to be abandoned; now it is busy with many Asian establishments. The spa itself was immaculate, and not busy on a Saturday afternoon. My attendant, Shu, was new. She was 35-40, somewhat shapely. Her English was poor, but she gave a good table shower and passable massage. She did not short me on time. After a standard but enthusiastic conclusion, she insisted that I stay on the table for several minutes of relaxing neck massage. She seemed content with a tip of. 4; however, she suggested I try another girl next time and proceeded to introduce me to the other three attendants working. She brought them in and told me the name of each. The first two were of Shu's age, and reasonably attractive. The last was 20-something, tall and lithe and either relatively or absolutely stunning. So I proceeded to forget her name entirely.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=AngleOfRepose;1646955]I am not sure why RL has a questionable reputation. The shopping center used to be abandoned; now it is busy with many Asian establishments. The spa itself was immaculate, and not busy on a Saturday afternoon. My attendant, Shu, was new. She was 35-40, somewhat shapely. Her English was poor, but she gave a good table shower and passable massage. She did not short me on time. After a standard but enthusiastic conclusion, she insisted that I stay on the table for several minutes of relaxing neck massage. She seemed content with a tip of. 4; however, she suggested I try another girl next time and proceeded to introduce me to the other three attendants working. She brought them in and told me the name of each. The first two were of Shu's age, and reasonably attractive. The last was 20-something, tall and lithe and either relatively or absolutely stunning. So I proceeded to forget her name entirely.[/QUOTE]The knock against RL has been in the extras area. The massages are pretty good. But everything else has been pretty much hands off, disinterested, and very limited. This is a far cry from what people got at BT, which you might call the predecessor of RL. When reality does not live up to expectations, dissapointment follows.

[QUOTE=Ginger Man;1647924]The knock against RL has been in the extras area. The massages are pretty good. But everything else has been pretty much hands off, disinterested, and very limited. This is a far cry from what people got at BT, which you might call the predecessor of RL. When reality does not live up to expectations, dissapointment follows.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I remember BT. BBBJ was a fairly standard prelude to the finish, and my favorite older therapist would occasionally offer me BBFS, at nothing beyond the standard tip. She was sweet, and I always enjoyed talking and joking with her. She was funny and basically happy, and the language barrier was not too formidable. But I prefer not engage in BB activities; for me, HE with a little sound track is more than adequate.

The fiesta is over at buena vista. * must have had a non-typical good experience there last time. * This time was regrettable time. * got to the door and rang the bell. * thought they were closed or shut down as I waited outside for an uncomfortable amount of time. * I was greeted at the door by what looked like troy pomalahu's evil twin sister. * a big, ugly, harry troll. * then from the back of the shop. 2 more senoritas showed up to give me a choice of the three. I picked the trashier (half shirt, C or D cups, tats all over her belly / shoulder / arms / back) of 3 hoping for a fun ride in the end. * the 60 minute option was taken. * I got ready and she came back after a few minutes. * a highly oiled but very poor massage ensued. * it was interrupted every 4 or 5 minutes for her to leave the room for a few minutes and come back (I watched the time with my watch). * after 15 minutes I was asked to flip. * I very poor massage with no attention / accidental brushing in the right areas going on at the same time, incidental roaming on my part was avoided / thwarted. * after 30 minutes I was asked if extras were desired. * I responded yes and was told. 1. * she left the room again and came back after 5 minutes. * the pathetic massage continued for 5 minutes. * the "extras" for. 1 were then clarified as HJ. * I explained that. 4 was fair and was countered with. 8 after several attempts of her staying firm on the. 1. * I then explained that this was my second time here and the last encounter ended with a. 4 ending. * I gave my final offer of. 5 and was then told the massage was over. * then she asked if I would like one of the other trolls to close the deal. * I reluctantly agreed and then I was asked for the funds up front. * another provider came in with the. 5 and asked for. 8. * by this time my mood was seriously deteriorated. * I got up to get dressed and headed out. * at that time they failed to do proper traffic control and I passed a fellow patron on the way out. * I asked to speak with the manager for a rebate as I only got a 30 minute massage and was told no. * rats, I has such high for this place but will not return. * I had a great massage and ending the last time by margarita but was told she no longer works there. * if someone has recommendations for a decent LMP please PM me. *

During a recent visit an AMP that I visited in the past, I requested a masseuse that I never had before. This is thanks to the reporting that many of you have done. The masseuse knew she had never given me a massage and wanted to know why I requested her. I told her a friend recommended her, but she wanted to know more. She asked who told me about her, but I didn't answer.

What I'm curious about is why she wanted to know so much. I might understand if I told her bad things were being said about her, but that wasn't the case.

Sometimes when I visit a place for the first time, they ask how I heard of them. I figured they might be screening for LEO, but being vague with my answers never put a damper on my experience.

So my question is, how should one make requests without alarming the masseuse? I know some of them don't like to be mentioned for fear of attracting too much attention.

[QUOTE=Shallow Hall;1650594]I requested a masseuse that I never had before ... The masseuse knew she had never given me a massage ... I ... might be ... LEO.[/QUOTE]

Sorry I was out of crayons so couldn't draw a picture, so the above is the best I could do.

Admittedly I'm in a bad mood, and my tolerance for stupidity is at an ebb; but seriously. You answered your own question.

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"You were recommended by my friend, Dave. He was here in the last week or two. What's he look like? He's about 5'8" 40'ish, brown hair."

It worked for me. I think it's better than suggesting to the girls that the whole world is learning about their activities in the Internet.

BTW, I never lie and say that I've been to a place before. When they ask, I just say,"no, but I've been to similar places." that always seems to work. They know it would have been easy for me to lie, which might have led to a more detailed interrogation. About whom I saw, etc.

[QUOTE=Shallow Hall; 1650594]During a recent visit an AMP that I visited in the past, I requested a masseuse that I never had before. This is thanks to the reporting that many of you have done. The masseuse knew she had never given me a massage and wanted to know why I requested her. I told her a friend recommended her, but she wanted to know more. She asked who told me about her, but I didn't answer.

What I'm curious about is why she wanted to know so much. I might understand if I told her bad things were being said about her, but that wasn't the case.

Sometimes when I visit a place for the first time, they ask how I heard of them. I figured they might be screening for LEO, but being vague with my answers never put a damper on my experience.

So my question is, how should one make requests without alarming the masseuse? I know some of them don't like to be mentioned for fear of attracting too much attention.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Propilot; 1647204]Some guys may get upset with me about saying this, but it has to be said. You should not tip more than $40. 00 for a hand job. If the girl is YOUNG, PRETTY and FRIENDLY and let you ROAM FREELY with the handjob, then you might tip $50. 00. Or give her $40. 00 and tell her a $10. 00 tip for her treating you so nice. There is no way that you should pay $100. 00 for a handjob, especially with a old, homely provider. No way. Myself, I explain to the girls that $100. 00 are for FS girls only. If the girls get upset, then I usually get dressed and leave. The chances of you getting good service will be nil.

I don't think complaining to the mamasan will change anything. The mamasan cares about the right house fee only. The girls freelance for themselves in the rooms. Mamsan will see nothing wrong with the price the girls are asking, since most mamasans will get a percentage of what the girls make. I am sorry to hear about the bad service, but I am happy you stuck to your plan.

Propilot-Always check your six.[/QUOTE]You hit the nail on the head Pro. I couldn't have said it any better. This is sound advice.

[QUOTE=John2526; 1651853]"You were recommended by my friend, Dave. He was here in the last week or two. What's he look like? He's about 5'8" 40'ish, brown hair."

It worked for me. I think it's better than suggesting to the girls that the whole world is learning about their activities in the Internet.

BTW, I never lie and say that I've been to a place before. When they ask, I just say,"no, but I've been to similar places." that always seems to work. They know it would have been easy for me to lie, which might have led to a more detailed interrogation. About whom I saw, etc.[/QUOTE]For a thoughtful and mature answer.

I cannot find fault with anything Propilot said. It is preposterous to pay any more than $30-40 for hand relief, and that.

Includes some roaming and visuals. I also never negotiate prior to service. It always destroys the mood, and I've left.

Spas for this very reason prior to the massage. And lets be honest, the quality of the massage at most places is

Average at best, so no one is really tipping for a serious high quality massage, but for the ending, hoping it is sensuous.

Fellow mongers. Lets keep tipping in perspective!

[QUOTE=John2526; 1651853]"You were recommended by my friend, Dave. He was here in the last week or two. What's he look like? He's about 5'8" 40'ish, brown hair."

It worked for me. I think it's better than suggesting to the girls that the whole world is learning about their activities in the Internet.

BTW, I never lie and say that I've been to a place before. When they ask, I just say,"no, but I've been to similar places." that always seems to work. They know it would have been easy for me to lie, which might have led to a more detailed interrogation. About whom I saw, etc.[/QUOTE]Kinda funny that you guys are talking about this.

I went to TK on New Years Eve. First time. I lied and said I was there before but a long time ago. Seemed to have worked because the masseuse I met (attractive, mid-30s, great attitude) gave me a great massage and-So I went back a couple of weeks later. This time I told the truth and said I had been there before but unfortunately could not remember the name of the first girl I saw on New Years Eve. Even though mamasan seemed to have recognized me, the new girl I met (Yoko, Yuko? Also mid-30s attractive) did not. Being close to closing I opted for the 30 minute session.

With that-no table shower, because I "only wanted 30 minutes." Decent massage but it had to be the most "innocent" massage I ever received at an AMP. No grazing of the trouble spots and no offer for anything else-all business. Told Yuko that my experience before (also 30 minutes on NYE) was much "better" but she kept saying that I "only wanted 30 minutes" so nothing more. She wouldn't even allow for renegotiating, actually getting a little annoyed with my questioning. Paid $60 entry fee and she even had my $10 change waiting for me. I told her to keep it-"OK," not even a thank you. She just kinda hurried me out, in the most professional way possible.

I was driving away puzzled, when I realized why she acted that way.

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So, guys, if I go back, and I get "the question", then the masseuse asks me which girl I saw, should I say "Yuko", knowing that Yuko thinks I am LEO and that the girl may verify with her?

Checked out the frequent advertiser on BP AMP in Greenbelt. It was very quiet Saturday afternoon and no one else was there. Mamasan answered the doorbell and guided to a room. Immediately an AP came into the room and inquired about length of stay. She could only handle a half hour and that was not long enough. In two minutes another AP entered and said she was good for the hour. That was very fortunate because the first AP was shorter, older, heavier and not as attractive. The second was named for the late Beatles wife, but younger, pretty, taller and thinner than the first one. She collected .7 for the house hour. She led the way to the table shower and gave a very thorough wash with special emphasis on important parts. Back to the room she inquired about hardness of massage and proceeded. She had medium length black hair, about 5'6", very pretty face, C cups, nice figure. She gave a good massage and after the flip and some mutual roaming, asked for likes. Dislikes. Told that everything was enjoyed, she massaged everyplace and got the reaction she was expecting. At that point, she rolled out the menu which was full. The full menu was chosen and followed by a CBJ with eye to eye contact; very hot. This was followed by sixty nine, then cowgirl. She finished during 69. After, she was conversational and affectionate and suggested a return visit. She's an 8 on the 10 scale. Service was 9. 5 out of 10. $.7 for the hour, .7 for the house, $$.4 total. Will repeat for sure.

I recently went to the place where the koalas play. I was met and asked by the mms if I had been before. I responded that it was my first time, and I asked for an hour treatment. I was met by the attendant and taken to the table shower for a standard experience. It was not very playful but washed all the areas. Returned to the room for an ok massage. Definitely not the best I had ever had. Upon the flip had to negotiate .6 for a NOVA plus experience. Overall it was a good experience. I got the full hour and left happy.