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[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;6031056]I love fish tacos. Which girls are you talking about? I will go down today if you can tell me which girl is a hooker. My secret to good service is to wipe my ass before going.[/QUOTE]The fat LatinX smell like tacos. The Vietkong babes like Andie and Sally smell fishy. I wouldn't know about the trans cause I don't play that game.
[QUOTE=SpicyCurry;6030488]I don't see any problems with those reports. I only disagree with the clean hookers description in Santa Ana. Some of those hookers are at bamboo part time and they smell like fish tacos.[/QUOTE]Coming from a guy who shits on himself.
Maybe you And AmpLover can take a field trip and check out all of his prime locations.
[QUOTE=SpicyCurry;6031392]The fat LatinX smell like tacos. The Vietkong babes like Andie and Sally smell fishy. I wouldn't know about the trans cause I don't play that game.[/QUOTE]Viet Kong or Viet Cong?
Isn't it strange Spicy Cury and AmpLoverOc make the same grammatical error?
[QUOTE=DJezDick;6031750]Coming from a guy who shits on himself.
Maybe you And AmpLover can take a field trip and check out all of his prime locations.[/QUOTE]I didn't shit on myself, where did you hear that, CNN? A major dump went right down the SH toilet, only the creamy bits and pieces were left on my ass but BW girl took care of it nicely.
[QUOTE=DJezDick;6031940]Viet Kong or Viet Cong?
Isn't it strange Spicy Cury and AmpLoverOc make the same grammatical error?[/QUOTE]It's VietKong as in Viet dudes that are dumb as giant apes, like you the CheeseDick, heard that from CNN. Ya know, like Hairy Tubman, a fat guy with a Bush.
No more fun in here but bantering trolls.
Definition of a troll.
Messes with people all day, talks shit all day. Controls the forum and rants about who's who.
Enjoy pussy guys instead of wasting time reading all their posts.
Like anyone's going to listen to your stupid asses. This is why no girl would ever be your wife / gf. And sadly you homos have to pay for pussy.
DjCuckfuck. Sissy spicycockeater. DarkHomosdaddy. MustangSally. And few others not even worth mentioning.
Oh well have fun controlling the places like you own them and have nothing to do all day but to piss into Each others mouth.
[QUOTE=DJezDick;6031940]Viet Kong or Viet Cong?
Isn't it strange Spicy Cury and AmpLoverOc make the same grammatical error?[/QUOTE][BLUE]That by doing this you encourage them and become a troll yourself?
Just wondering?
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[QUOTE=DJezDick;6028016]10 post 1 day!
At least the massage girls make a little money.
We need to start a go fund me page for this looser so he can afford a real session with a girl instead of making shit up.[/QUOTE]"Harry tub of shit", haha yeah what a loser. But hey for a new guy, DarkdickDaddy seems to like him a lot, even went out of his way to explain the meaning of his moniker harrytubman. LOL.
[QUOTE=AmpLoverOC;6033107]No more fun in here but bantering trolls.
Definition of a troll.
Messes with people all day, talks shit all day. Controls the forum and rants about who's who.
Enjoy pussy guys instead of wasting time reading all their posts.
Like anyone's going to listen to your stupid asses. This is why no girl would ever be your wife / gf. And sadly you homos have to pay for pussy.
DjCuckfuck. Sissy spicycockeater. DarkHomosdaddy. MustangSally. And few others not even worth mentioning.
Oh well have fun controlling the places like you own them and have nothing to do all day but to piss into Each others mouth.[/QUOTE]DarkhomoDaddy is definitely a Spicycockeater. Just ask Andy. Not Andie BW, but Andy SH.
[QUOTE=SpicyCurry;6036093]DarkhomoDaddy is definitely a Spicycockeater. Just ask Andy. Not Andie BW, but Andy SH.[/QUOTE]Are you saying there is some gay action in SH? I never knew about that. How is working out for you?
I can tell you BW Andy is pretty smooth if you decide to give women a try again. First class session!
Recent posts about requested donation rates jolting up faster than my equipment did in my 20's led me to make some comparisons with the overall inflation rate. I'll restrict myself to just out-the-door costs for CFS, whether at an MP or apartment MP.
The first time I was offered FS was at an MP in the SFV in 1975, . 15 house and. 40 tip, so. 55 otd, didn't do it though. In 1985 in Santa Monica, when I did start going for CFS, otd was. 70. I took a long break from 1989 to 2008, and then in 2008 in the SGV at AAMP's it was $ to $. 3, so I'd say an average of $. 15. Now in 2022 it averages I'd say $. 6 in the SGV. Damn that autocorrect on this otherwise excellent site, always inserting a space after a period whether it's appropriate or not.
From '75 to '85, this is a 2. 4%/ yr increase, while the CPI went up 7. 2%/ yr. The big difference here was on the supply side. In '75 the women were almost all white, by '85 the Asians had taken over. From '85 to '08, the CFS increase was 2. 2%/ yr while the CPI went up 3. 1%/ yr. From '08 to '22, it's 2. 4%/ yr for CFS, 2. 2%/ yr for the CPI.
Overall from '85 at the advent of the Asians through '22, it's a 2. 3%/ yr for CFS, 2. 7% for the CPI. So as much as I dislike the increases and have had to cut back my frequency a little bit, it seems like the donation levels really haven't kept up with inflation. The door fees have really lagged: From '75 to '22, they've gone up 2. 6%/ yr compared to 3. 7% for the CPI.
And has been pointed out off and on, the fees out here are less than in other parts of the country. As someone in one of the SGV threads wrote once, "We are awash in pussy. ".
And for myself in the rooms, I guess I'm like most of you. Occasionally I balk at severe overcharging or upselling, and politely leave, but I'm guilty too of letting my needy needy hormones take over sometimes. And I'm 100% with Nice Guy 99 in his post #30101 in the OC MP thread, where he points out that 20 means a lot more to the girl than it does to me. Same thing goes for when I grab a meal by myself at Denny's. All it takes is an extra buck or two to convert a 15% tip into a 30% tip. Imagine how much pleasure is being spread in the world at the cost of a couple of crinkled dollar bills.
'Nuff ranting and stupid s* from me tonight.
Lift Her Up.
[QUOTE=LiftHerUp;6042047]And I'm 100% with Nice Guy 99 in his post #30101 in the OC MP thread, where he points out that 20 means a lot more to the girl than it does to me. Same thing goes for when I grab a meal by myself at Denny's. All it takes is an extra buck or two to convert a 15% tip into a 30% tip. Imagine how much pleasure is being spread in the world at the cost of a couple of crinkled dollar bills.[/QUOTE]I am not sure that is true. These girls make more than most of us. They are pulling $300-700 a day, 6-7 days a week, 52 weeks a year. And its all tax free under-the-table income, and their expenses are minimal. Most of them don't own cars, don't pay for gas or insurance, etc. So they are probably socking away $100 k-200 k a year. For a normal dude who pays taxes, mortgage, and has a car. How easy is it to put away even $10 k a year in your savings account? So don't think you are helping out a poor girl get a bite to eat.
But I do indeed give good tips without hestitation to any girl who gives me an enjoyable time. Which means half-way decent massage, a romantic pull, and a little bit of nice personality. (If I get the half-ass massage, day-at-the-factory pull, and cold personality. Then that's my last session with her ever). Just taking a so-called 'normal' girl out to dinner and movie will probably set you back $60-120 these days, and all you get a handshake goodnight. So this is a bargain. It might take 5-10 such expensive dates to get FS. And the FS is not necessarily any more enthusiastic or genuine.
From her point of view, she is in a foreign country away from her friends and family and husband and kids. She worked in a dark sex dungeon and rarely sees the sunlight. Most of these girls have fucked up backs and need massage more than we do. And they have no retirement plan. And they might be supporting a kid or husband back home. So they are sacrificing their own happiness in a way, that would make us want to jump off a cliff if we had their life.
In the last 20 sessions I have had, about 1/3 are shit, 1/3 are ok, and 1/3 are above the call of duty. I never low ball or haggle. I pay them. But I only return to the top 1/3 and I might drop 80-100 for a session with a girl that makes me feel the way I felt when was 20 years old in the backseat at the drive-in movie. It makes my week.
[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;6042525]I am not sure that is true. These girls make more than most of us. They are pulling $300-700 a day, 6-7 days a week, 52 weeks a year. And its all tax free under-the-table income, and their expenses are minimal. Most of them don't own cars, don't pay for gas or insurance, etc. So they are probably socking away $100 k-200 k a year. For a normal dude who pays taxes, mortgage, and has a car. How easy is it to put away even $10 k a year in your savings account? So don't think you are helping out a poor girl get a bite to eat.
But I do indeed give good tips without hestitation to any girl who gives me an enjoyable time. Which means half-way decent massage, a romantic pull, and a little bit of nice personality. (If I get the half-ass massage, day-at-the-factory pull, and cold personality. Then that's my last session with her ever). Just taking a so-called 'normal' girl out to dinner and movie will probably set you back $60-120 these days, and all you get a handshake goodnight. So this is a bargain. It might take 5-10 such expensive dates to get FS. And the FS is not necessarily any more enthusiastic or genuine.
From her point of view, she is in a foreign country away from her friends and family and husband and kids. She worked in a dark sex dungeon and rarely sees the sunlight. Most of these girls have fucked up backs and need massage more than we do. And they have no retirement plan. And they might be supporting a kid or husband back home. So they are sacrificing their own happiness in a way, that would make us want to jump off a cliff if we had their life.
In the last 20 sessions I have had, about 1/3 are shit, 1/3 are ok, and 1/3 are above the call of duty. I never low ball or haggle. I pay them. But I only return to the top 1/3 and I might drop 80-100 for a session with a girl that makes me feel the way I felt when was 20 years old in the backseat at the drive-in movie. It makes my week.[/QUOTE]I definitely agree that the girls who give extras especially regular sessions of FS are pulling down the big bucks. Take that amount then subtract their barebones living conditions and that equals huge bank accounts, mostly unreported earnings. Some of them live in trailer courts. Splitting the rent with 3 to 5 other girls in the same biz or restaurant workers (same hours but not as profitable). There are also guest houses where 10 or 12 people may rent space in a 3 bedroom house. Living spaces are divided up with sheets throughout the house. Others are living with their coworkers at the boss's house. Living conditions might be slightly better than guest houses. I remember the old female boss at FC had the girls living in uninsulated sheds with concrete floors in the backyard. Just before selling the biz, she had the girls receiving customers in those sheds. All of this means cheap rent for as little as $400 a month. Transportation is by Chinese Uber or the boss who collects them at their hones to go to work. Some may need to send money to China but others are stuffing their bank accounts.
They work really hard for their money and live like paupers in overcrowded conditions but HJ / BJ / FS girls make a damn good living. If you ever get the chance to have one of them take you out to eat at a restaurant, check out the bankroll they pull out of their purse to pay for the meal. One thing about restaurant workers, tho. Many of them work the same hours as massage providers but their tips are shit. You might treat them well.
[QUOTE=Caribe;6042972]I definitely agree that the girls who give extras especially regular sessions of FS are pulling down the big bucks. Take that amount then subtract their barebones living conditions and that equals huge bank accounts, mostly unreported earnings. Some of them live in trailer courts. Splitting the rent with 3 to 5 other girls in the same biz or restaurant workers (same hours but not as profitable). There are also guest houses where 10 or 12 people may rent space in a 3 bedroom house. Living spaces are divided up with sheets throughout the house. Others are living with their coworkers at the boss's house. Living conditions might be slightly better than guest houses. I remember the old female boss at FC had the girls living in uninsulated sheds with concrete floors in the backyard. Just before selling the biz, she had the girls receiving customers in those sheds. All of this means cheap rent for as little as $400 a month. Transportation is by Chinese Uber or the boss who collects them at their hones to go to work. Some may need to send money to China but others are stuffing their bank accounts.
They work really hard for their money and live like paupers in overcrowded conditions but HJ / BJ / FS girls make a damn good living. If you ever get the chance to have one of them take you out to eat at a restaurant, check out the bankroll they pull out of their purse to pay for the meal. One thing about restaurant workers, tho. Many of them work the same hours as massage providers but their tips are shit. You might treat them well.[/QUOTE]Suppose a girl is working one of the yank-factories like SH and is doing 5-12 a day at base rate of $60. Lets say 7 * 60 = 420 conservatively. Then work 6 days, that's $2500 a week. That's about $125 k isn't it? Just pulling peter and never popping a bra or pulling down a panty. Living expenses are well under 1 k a month, so they are netting 110 k. In the real world, that's like making 160 k. That's maybe executive or engineering pay. But these are unskilled and uneducated. So not a bad gig. 5 years is over half a million cold hard bucks. Just 10 years and they are a millionaire. If you are inclined toward charity, there are some homeless guys in front of every shopping mall in Westminster. Some guy seems to live next to Air Body.
[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;6043694]Suppose a girl is working one of the yank-factories like SH and is doing 5-12 a day at base rate of $60. Lets say 7 * 60 = 420 conservatively. Then work 6 days, that's $2500 a week. That's about $125 k isn't it? Just pulling peter and never popping a bra or pulling down a panty. Living expenses are well under 1 k a month, so they are netting 110 k. In the real world, that's like making 160 k. That's maybe executive or engineering pay. But these are unskilled and uneducated. So not a bad gig. 5 years is over half a million cold hard bucks. Just 10 years and they are a millionaire. If you are inclined toward charity, there are some homeless guys in front of every shopping mall in Westminster. Some guy seems to live next to Air Body.[/QUOTE]A couple years ago I met a girl and one of the local spas. I started seeing her at her private residence. She drives a nice car and has a 2 bedroom apartment, she lives by herself.
1 bedroom is dedicated to shoes, expensive handbags, cloths, perfume and a whole lot of other crap. I am sure gets some gifts but most of the crap is purchased by her.
She has a steady cash flow but I am pretty sure her portfolio = $ 0.00.