The Rat Trap

Posting one PM doesn't help get to the truth, it only reveals whatever the PM says. One piece of evidence. As I mentioned before, what if person in PM wasn't telling whole truth or was intentionally misleading the reader for sake of protecting his / her identity. I believe revealing PM's is a slippery slope. BTW some people lie in PM just like some of us have monger names or working girl phones. Some people lie on here about there height and weight or dick size or in the case of providers about their age or weight. Some people wait two weeks to write a review and then the provider is all, you were the best when they have no idea who you were or they say I didn't do that with you but they did. I am not sure of any monger who hasn't had BBFS situation when it started covered and either the cover came off, was involuntarily ripped off, was clogging the process and was the voluntarily ripped off. I have some providers say "don't tell anyone" and I was like "okay". So I am not sure what the fuck this drama is all about. Frankly, I don't know the provider from Admin's housecat and I do know the monger. I know the monger would like to respond with facts and dates and times and messages. The long and the short of it is, lets agree to disagree about who is right (never really important anyway) and just get back to mongering and the providers can get back to whoring. In the immortal words of Charlie Sheen, "I don't pay for sex, I just pay for them to leave after we have sex!" -- and that's my two cents -- Dog.

[QUOTE=LawDog17;2197695]Posting one PM doesn't help get to the truth, it only reveals whatever the PM says. One piece of evidence. As I mentioned before, what if person in PM wasn't telling whole truth or was intentionally misleading the reader for sake of protecting his / her identity. I believe revealing PM's is a slippery slope. BTW some people lie in PM just like some of us have monger names or working girl phones. Some people lie on here about there height and weight or dick size or in the case of providers about their age or weight. Some people wait two weeks to write a review and then the provider is all, you were the best when they have no idea who you were or they say I didn't do that with you but they did. I am not sure of any monger who hasn't had BBFS situation when it started covered and either the cover came off, was involuntarily ripped off, was clogging the process and was the voluntarily ripped off. I have some providers say "don't tell anyone" and I was like "okay". So I am not sure what the fuck this drama is all about. Frankly, I don't know the provider from Admin's housecat and I do know the monger. I know the monger would like to respond with facts and dates and times and messages. The long and the short of it is, lets agree to disagree about who is right (never really important anyway) and just get back to mongering and the providers can get back to whoring. In the immortal words of Charlie Sheen, "I don't pay for sex, I just pay for them to leave after we have sex!" -- and that's my two cents -- Dog.[/QUOTE]You know what. This is a great post. Upon reading this I agree 100%. Nobody on this forum will ever get the whole truth about anything. Whether it's a post, a PM, texts, he said she said etc. I don't really care about anything other than knowing if a girl is LE and maybe get an idea of service level.

And it's true. I and some others on here certainly don't need to pay for sex. We pay for them to leave and shut their fucking mouths.

KC.

Hey A2, if whatever happened is so shitty that you feel a need to post up the PM, why don't you just ban the monger involved? When, or if you do, please post up and inform us who it was. We don't need any other details. His departure from this great forum is all we need to know.

[QUOTE=LawDog17;2197695]Posting one PM doesn't help get to the truth, it only reveals whatever the PM says. One piece of evidence. As I mentioned before, what if person in PM wasn't telling whole truth or was intentionally misleading the reader for sake of protecting his / her identity. I believe revealing PM's is a slippery slope. BTW some people lie in PM just like some of us have monger names or working girl phones. Some people lie on here about there height and weight or dick size or in the case of providers about their age or weight. Some people wait two weeks to write a review and then the provider is all, you were the best when they have no idea who you were or they say I didn't do that with you but they did. I am not sure of any monger who hasn't had BBFS situation when it started covered and either the cover came off, was involuntarily ripped off, was clogging the process and was the voluntarily ripped off. I have some providers say "don't tell anyone" and I was like "okay". So I am not sure what the fuck this drama is all about. Frankly, I don't know the provider from Admin's housecat and I do know the monger. I know the monger would like to respond with facts and dates and times and messages. The long and the short of it is, lets agree to disagree about who is right (never really important anyway) and just get back to mongering and the providers can get back to whoring. In the immortal words of Charlie Sheen, "I don't pay for sex, I just pay for them to leave after we have sex!" -- and that's my two cents -- Dog.[/QUOTE]There are people looking for the smoking gun or burn them at the cross (not really) without all the info. Only A2 has the power to read all pm's before during and after the accusation. Let's just have some sex! If you all haven't figured this out you can tell who fibs a little in there posts for the entertainment value. It's all about consistency and multiple positive posts other than that it's YMMV then move on until you find your favorite.

I want Ashley!

[QUOTE=Admin2;2196915][BLUE]Note this is in blue:

Situation; A guy says a chick did a thing. She responds and says she didn't. He responds and says I know you do because you did it with me. She then copies in a PM where he specifically says they didn't do what he's saying they did in the forum.

First Problem; PM's are private and normally can't be posted.

Second Problem; As a rule chicks can't defend on the forum. (But they can on a thread like this)

My issue; It's a pretty big deal what they are talking about and she has proof positive (his own words) that it happened the way she said not what he said. I'm assuming, I would verify by looking in her inbox if she asked me to.

By simple yes let her or no don't let her. Let me know what you guys think about moving the post here with the screen shot of the PM.

Not saying I'm going to do what you guys vote for, but I'd like to get a sense of the room on this issue.

A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]Whatever you are going to do please do it! This way we can get on the other side of this issue and get back to our hobby!

[QUOTE=LuvInIt007;2197731]There are people looking for the smoking gun or burn them at the cross (not really) without all the info. Only A2 has the power to read all pm's before during and after the accusation. Let's just have some sex! If you all haven't figured this out you can tell who fibs a little in there posts for the entertainment value. It's all about consistency and multiple positive posts other than that it's YMMV then move on until you find your favorite.

I want Ashley![/QUOTE]If I'm the "Ashley" you are referring to then "Come getcha some my love".

Love to ALL.

Xoxo Ashley.

Play Safe BUT Always Pay HARD.

The more I thought about it it isn't fair to out the parties. That does compromise discretion one of my biggest personal concerns. No one knows for sure other than the 2 parties involved what happened. I wouldn't want my PMs out there. I was wrong and kind of jumped to conclusions. Discretion and privacy are key to safety.

Disregard the previous rants, running on emotion and not logic. Someone involved isn't telling the truth but that's between them.

If A2 feels something should be done he will, that's what he is here for and I am not going to be one to second guess decisions.

[QUOTE=Vino7373;2197711]Hey A2, if whatever happened is so shitty that you feel a need to post up the PM, why don't you just ban the monger involved? When, or if you do, please post up and inform us who it was. We don't need any other details. His departure from this great forum is all we need to know.[/QUOTE]The feeble minded blind flock would go ape squeeze....they can't handle
the truth

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I think by now those of us who are in the habit of RTFF figured out what happened and who the players are. It is unlikely this will cause any lasting damage to the community. Posting what happened may hurt someone's ego. It is a big ego and some here will likely enjoy seeing it hurt. Those who wanted to see the SP in question probably figured out that the said SP is unlikely to be as adventurous as was advertised and will see or not see her regardless of that particular SM's review. Why not just let the dogs rest and move on.

Having said that, God (A2) moves in mysterious ways and I am really curious to see what happens.

[QUOTE=LawDog17;2197695]Posting one PM doesn't help get to the truth, it only reveals whatever the PM says. One piece of evidence. As I mentioned before, what if person in PM wasn't telling whole truth or was intentionally misleading the reader for sake of protecting his / her identity. I believe revealing PM's is a slippery slope. BTW some people lie in PM just like some of us have monger names or working girl phones. Some people lie on here about there height and weight or dick size or in the case of providers about their age or weight. Some people wait two weeks to write a review and then the provider is all, you were the best when they have no idea who you were or they say I didn't do that with you but they did. I am not sure of any monger who hasn't had BBFS situation when it started covered and either the cover came off, was involuntarily ripped off, was clogging the process and was the voluntarily ripped off. I have some providers say "don't tell anyone" and I was like "okay". So I am not sure what the fuck this drama is all about. Frankly, I don't know the provider from Admin's housecat and I do know the monger. I know the monger would like to respond with facts and dates and times and messages. The long and the short of it is, lets agree to disagree about who is right (never really important anyway) and just get back to mongering and the providers can get back to whoring. In the immortal words of Charlie Sheen, "I don't pay for sex, I just pay for them to leave after we have sex!" -- and that's my two cents -- Dog.[/QUOTE]This is a very good point! I also believe that no matter what is said about a provider if she keeps providing a great service and does not rip guys off she will stay on top and prevail. Look at all the crap Savanna has had to go through and she has stayed on top and she has prevailed. Why? Because she's hard headed and does not give up and because she provides great service and does not rip people off. So perhaps Dog is right, maybe it's not important who is right just keep providing a good service and you will eventually prevail. Yes, people lie in their PM's also so posting the PM may not bring the truth out.

Jazak.

[QUOTE=Potsy;2197614]OK VS you say its ok to post B&S pics as long as they are close or the session was good, who gives a shit? And you are happy with a TV star?

OK lets use your analogy. So lets say a provider posts fake pics and / or a monger vouches for her pics as very accurate or accurate.

So you go and see the provider and its not the girl in the pics but she looks like Leonards girlfriend Penny on the Big Bang Theory, pretty hot girl, so in your world its all good since you are happy with a good looking TV star. So the B&S is OK.

OK, same scenario, you arrive at her place and are met by a girl that looks like Sheldons girlfriend Amy, from the Big Bang Theory. Not the hottie you expected but a TV star, so is that B&S ok? Based on your statements, you should be fine with it. Not even close to the hot girl in the B&S pics, but based on your statement it should be acceptable. I highly doubt you would be fine with it, and if you say you would, you would be lying.

OK, same scenario, you arrive at her place and are met by a girl that looks like Howards girlfriend Bernadette, from the same show. Not the girl in the B&S pics but a TV star, so is this acceptable to you? I doubt it. She is not as hot as the girl in the fake pics, not as hot as Penny but better looking then AMY. So based on your excuse for using fake pics or a monger vouching for fake pics all 3 scenarios I laid out should be acceptable to you. Screw the fact the pics are fake, 1 girls hot, ones pretty hot and one not so much.

So tell me, where do you draw the line at using fake B&S pics? Would Penny be ok as the real girl you meet? Amy acceptable? How about Bernadette?

When you try and justify someone using fake B&S pics by saying who cares as long as she's hot and that you would be happy with a TV star, I just laid out 3 scenarios for you, that based on what you have said, each one should be acceptable with you and the use of fake B&S pics to lure you to see these 3 different girls in your world is perfectly fine.

Thats an impossible line to justify Fake pics and vouching for someone who is using fake pics is just wrong. Trying to rationalize it by saying well she was close enough to the B&S pics is a straw argument as everyone's CLOSE ENOUGH is different.

As for me I was spending $30 to $50 a month in gas money alone for a while, seeing girls posting hot pics, or meeting a girl based on a mongers claim that the girl is real, only to meet them in person and find out the pics are B&S and the monger was full of it. Then once your there the usual BS starts. The girl swears the pics in the ad are really her, and the excuses begin: Yeah I just cut and dyed my hair yesterday, Oh the tats I have in the ad?, Oh I had them medically removed last week, Oh my eye colors different? I was wearing colored contacts in the pics. Then when you try and leave theres always that 50/50 chance she is going to demand her donation anyway and tell you how her boys are going to jack you up if you try and leave without giving her money, even though you tried to leave within 2 minutes of getting there and you realizing her pics are fake.

I am too tired of the bullshit. If a provider posts fake pics and I go see her, once I walk in and realize her pics are fake, I leave, no matter what the little head is saying. If you can't see why some mongers don't like the idea of a provider using fake pics and a monger vouching for them, then that's your deal. As for me it pisses me off, as its a waste of my time and money.

Lastly, did I see you posting in the rat trap that someone is an ex cop? Isn't that the 4th or fifth time over the last several years that you have accused a monger of either being a cop, an ex cop, LEO or something to that effect?[/QUOTE]If you don't agree then don't, you posted a huge amount of shit to say nothing. You are angry about a ton of crap NedleyM can't fix nor can anybody else. Don't try to twist words using ugly girls as examples, people who got through sixth grade know exactly what I meant.

He posted he had a hot time with a good looking chick what other guarantees do you want. You always have the right to walk away—you said it yourself—listen to yourself.

Show me the post #s of all the members I accused of being a cop—do it bigmouth, you have a lot to say about fake pics but it's all right for you run your mouth, I warned about one guys handle being a cop term and to beware until he proves himself, I haven't seen him post in quite some time.

I know a lot about how to spot a cop, just like a good gambler learns how to spot tells in a poker game. How do I know? I posted why a long time ago—go look.

VS.