General Reports

Seems a couple guys painting with broad strokes here. Not all mongers are bad, in fact I'd submit that the minority are bad apples. Just like not all prostitutes are bad, but there are certainly the ones who do too many drugs, short time, rip guys off, try to do as little as possible for as much money as they can get, make "promises" and lead guys on to get more money, etc. It goes both ways for sure. And what's with one of the biggest predators on this board preaching about predators, can't make this shit up LOL.

Have you ever been in a store, restaurant, etc and spotted a sexy captivating woman and thought "damn, I'll bet she would be a hot tryst"! And it would seem if quick, easy compensation was offered that they might actually try it? LOL Have any of you found a way to approach someone that wasn't in the business but accepted the offer? Would love to hear your stories.

[QUOTE=Gene2;6155900]It's just disturbing to me. I thoroughly enjoy women. And I thoroughly enjoy women who cater to my needs and desires. And gratitude and respect are so easily given by us men, if we just think about it. And that kindness and respect is so well rewarded by these women. To have a beautiful woman tell me I'm appreciated. And then show it with maybe an extra special session, or feature, or wardrobe. It just seems so nice. And I know it's a lot of the sales job. But damn. It feels nice. And it's depressing to think some guys go the opposite direction. Demean and disrespect.

G2.[/QUOTE]I approve yours and Sandy message on bad Monger behaviors towards our providers. Part of my success in this hobby has been predicated on good behavior, manners, hygiene and disposable cash. I also agree with Benz thoughts that most providers are vulnerable, and in need of funds. I chuckle at Gene2 idyllic thoughts about idealized women who provide great service for above average donation and extra gifts. BTW I'm also a patron of Lauren, she's exceptional but I find Gene2 and other who are willing to pay high donations are driving up the per hour donations. UTR and other active ladies gauge what we say and donate so they ask for what the market will bear. Sorry Gene2, I really enjoy your well worded rants, but the bottom line is money and money talks! I probably started a hornet nest topic but that's my two cents. Bottum out.

[QUOTE=Gene2;6155900]It's just disturbing to me. I thoroughly enjoy women. And I thoroughly enjoy women who cater to my needs and desires. And gratitude and respect are so easily given by us men, if we just think about it. And that kindness and respect is so well rewarded by these women. To have a beautiful woman tell me I'm appreciated. And then show it with maybe an extra special session, or feature, or wardrobe. It just seems so nice. And I know it's a lot of the sales job. But damn. It feels nice. And it's depressing to think some guys go the opposite direction. Demean and disrespect..[/QUOTE]I absolutely agree G2. Although I do indulge once in a while with a provider who will dress or act trashy it is with mutual agreement and part of the fantasy whether it be hers or mine. It by no means meant to degrade or disrespect but to enhance our experience together. All these ladies deserve respect and as Gene said, respect will be returned.

[QUOTE=Bottum;6156924]I approve yours and Sandy message on bad Monger behaviors towards our providers. Part of my success in this hobby has been predicated on good behavior, manners, hygiene and disposable cash. I also agree with Benz thoughts that most providers are vulnerable, and in need of funds. I chuckle at Gene2 idyllic thoughts about idealized women who provide great service for above average donation and extra gifts. BTW I'm also a patron of Lauren, she's exceptional but I find Gene2 and other who are willing to pay high donations are driving up the per hour donations. UTR and other active ladies gauge what we say and donate so they ask for what the market will bear. Sorry Gene2, I really enjoy your well worded rants, but the bottom line is money and money talks! I probably started a hornet nest topic but that's my two cents. Bottum out.[/QUOTE]No argument or hornet's nest from me. I know it's all about the money. But respect and dignity afforded to a beautiful woman costs nothing. And it does impact the quality of the final product. And good behavior just is always a measure of a good man.

Glad I amuse some of you guys. I amuse myself quite often.

G2.

[QUOTE=WaltK;6157654]The value of any given amount of money varies based on the wealth of the spender. I exchange an hour of my time for $500 every day. You couldn't get Jeff Bezos to spit on you for $500. Eliot Spitzer was fucking $5000/ hour girls back in the late 90's, the money wasn't his problem.

I might pay $3200 to fuck a Playboy model but I would have buyers remorse if she wasn't as hot as I had hoped. What I would never do is give up my anonymity for a one and done piece of pussy.[/QUOTE]I don't think it solely depends on the wealth of the spender, tho. I've made some good money, more money than I deserve. But there's No Way I'm paying $20 for a snickers bar. It's not like it's one of the last good candy bars in town for the rest of the month. I don't care if I'm hungry and just won an easy $40 on a bet an hour ago. It's mental turn-off by principle if I'm at a convenience store and everything's normal except a Snickers box marked $19.95 each. F that! Why? It's a Slap LOL.

That gal for $20,000 for day / night. She's hot, yeah. But she does this for a living, not a hottie you know who's not an easy gal, out of your league, and due to a convo about hypotheticals you roll with it. That I can understand, of course. But as odd as it sounds, I do tell my friends in certain circumstances on what will make them happy (er) despite what they think in the moment (especially with small head) when it comes to non-famous gals they don't know. Even if $20 k is a drop in the bucket to your bank, you're going to be much happier banging great persona non-clock-watching hotties who enjoy your company for $500/ hr -- which you can find -- and doing so 40 times in a year, also helping you ensure you'll have experiences without it being wrong-time-not-optimal. This avenue literally is objectively Better. And a price tag of $20 k for a (whole) day? Going to charge me $20 for a Snickers bar? Oh, what a slap.

To be fair, this is when / why I would pay Way outside market price with hotties, when wealthy:

- She was a long-time crush, really cool, out of my league, and after a hypothetical convo, we make it happen.

- She was an actress / model I adored on-screen and in magazines.

- She was a hottie in real life who was wanting to invest in something that was legit & sounded great, I'd give her a donation for a roll in the hey hey hey and make a new (platonic) friend.

- Escort part of an agency that was ensured to be on the down-low with no connections or being found out and of ensured high quality in persona, performance, etc. and that is what I really Needed (which I don't)

But apart from that, there's legit hotties for $500/ hr out there. I'd rather fly to Vegas in a nice sweet hotel for a 3 day visit and ball-bang hot escorts all the time for half the price of $20 k with one very hot woman. One would Actually Be Happier.

[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;6156751]Have you ever been in a store, restaurant, etc and spotted a sexy captivating woman and thought "damn, I'll bet she would be a hot tryst"! And it would seem if quick, easy compensation was offered that they might actually try it? LOL Have any of you found a way to approach someone that wasn't in the business but accepted the offer? Would love to hear your stories.[/QUOTE]Why yes I have. It's called marriage. Which leads to the most expensive arrangement you'll ever make. Stick with escorts, oin the end they're far cheaper.

[QUOTE=LoveTheLips;6156751]Have you ever been in a store, restaurant, etc and spotted a sexy captivating woman and thought "damn, I'll bet she would be a hot tryst"! And it would seem if quick, easy compensation was offered that they might actually try it? LOL Have any of you found a way to approach someone that wasn't in the business but accepted the offer? Would love to hear your stories.[/QUOTE]Yes, with some caveats. I get much more out of the chase & conquest more than I ever do from a straight up escort. The trick is to not solicit but just do some good old fashion flirting and pickup attempts first. Why pay if you can get it for free? I've done the switch only when she has responded to my flirting but I don't sense I can reel her in. I've done this in bars (think TGI Friday's divorcee crowd), hotel lounges (manager's reception) and even online. I never tried a cold solicitation because I'd be afraid of being accused of harassment and causing a scene. Likewise if she won't give me the time of day I'd never solicit. I've had success by working in a story about how one time I was talking to a woman like this and yada yada yada she turned out to be a call girl. That leads to a lively conversation about what happened, sheepishly admit I was tempted but why I didn't go through with it at the time (never admit you've seen a hooker), that I support woman's rights to her body, and how it really shouldn't be taboo between consenting adults. Then go into a hypothetical scenario and comparison how much money is spent on drinks, dinner, and entertainment just so two people can enjoy a one night stand and question how that is really any different to just having an arrangement up front? If she agrees the door is wide open. Her first reaction might be to say she might hypothetically for $1000, that's when I say awe shucks I don't have that and count out the $276.15 or whatever's in my pocket. We both get a chuckle before I smile slyly and ask her how much of it I should continue to spend on drinks or safe for her?

This should go without saying but whatever you attempt don't be an outward creep or be pushy about it. A little personality and charm allows for a lot forgiveness even if you are suggesting something that might be considered really offensive to her.

Anyone else with gmail finding their USA admin messages alerting you that you have a new private message are going into your spam folder? It's been happening for the last few weeks and I haven't been able to stop it. I've been using a mobile web app for that account, not a desktop site or app. I click this isn't spam but all it does is move the one message back to my regular inbox but it doesn't apply the setting to future received messages.

[QUOTE=PrivateParts;6160241]Yes, with some caveats. I get much more out of the chase & conquest more than I ever do from a straight up escort. The trick is to not solicit but just do some good old fashion flirting and pickup attempts first. Why pay if you can get it for free? I've done the switch only when she has responded to my flirting but I don't sense I can reel her in. I've done this in bars (think TGI Friday's divorcee crowd), hotel lounges (manager's reception) and even online. I never tried a cold solicitation because I'd be afraid of being accused of harassment and causing a scene. Likewise if she won't give me the time of day I'd never solicit. I've had success by working in a story about how one time I was talking to a woman like this and yada yada yada she turned out to be a call girl. That leads to a lively conversation about what happened, sheepishly admit I was tempted but why I didn't go through with it at the time (never admit you've seen a hooker), that I support woman's rights to her body, and how it really shouldn't be taboo between consenting adults. Then go into a hypothetical scenario and comparison how much money is spent on drinks, dinner, and entertainment just so two people can enjoy a one night stand and question how that is really any different to just having an arrangement up front? If she agrees the door is wide open. Her first reaction might be to say she might hypothetically for $1000, that's when I say awe shucks I don't have that and count out the $276.15 or whatever's in my pocket. We both get a chuckle before I smile slyly and ask her how much of it I should continue to spend on drinks or safe for her?

This should go without saying but whatever you attempt don't be an outward creep or be pushy about it. A little personality and charm allows for a lot forgiveness even if you are suggesting something that might be considered really offensive to her.[/QUOTE]I completely agree that it is the thrill of the chase for me. I have conquered a few on Facebook with my wit and humor enough to get laid, and two of them turned long term. One got way too close so I stopped doing it altogether. It amazes me what words can do if you use them right.

Maybe one day I will get back into it and dabble at dipping my toes in the water again for fun. And if I lose, well hey, that's what escorts are for.

Play safe!

-Shaw.

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Anyone seen her lately. ?

Hey Fellow mongers,

Wondering if there's any nice clean spinners out there with an open menu. I'm thinking the likes of " Row" Any recommendations greatly appreciated. Thanks. FS.

[QUOTE=FelterSnatch58;6169804]Hey Fellow mongers,

Wondering if there's any nice clean spinners out there with an open menu. I'm thinking the likes of " Row" Any recommendations greatly appreciated. Thanks. FS.[/QUOTE]You might try this ad. Apparently it is two providers who share this ad and phone number. The photos are also used by other posters. I'm not sure how it's all inter related, but ask for the former dancer named "Dallas". She's late 20's. Blonde. She isn't girl in photos but very close in looks. Very slender and wears a black leather mini skirt with nothing on underneath. Room they use is a two room suite near airport. Communication is a challenge having two girls use one number. But fortune favors the persistent.

[URL]https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/former-dancer-blonde-small-you/211476487346[/URL]

G2.

[QUOTE=FelterSnatch58;6169804]Hey Fellow mongers,

Wondering if there's any nice clean spinners out there with an open menu. I'm thinking the likes of " Row" Any recommendations greatly appreciated. Thanks. FS.[/QUOTE]I see my spinner Lexiluv about once a week, unfortunately Lexiluv won't play with unsafe mongers that spread her digits out.

She is awesome, swallowing, cfs and Greek with hugs and kisses to finish.

[QUOTE]Most of us can spend $1 k a month (dinner, purses, jewelry) on a girl for the real thing, reaping many more rewards then just 2-3 'unattached sessions' a month. But to each their own. (2 k gets a Louis Vuitton, and I'm still reaping the benefits from last Christmas. LOL)[/QUOTE]I think "the real thing" is the issue. When it's not the "real thing" but just an extended GFE. I don't see it as objectively worth it -- unless one has a super crush on the gal that sticks out from all the rest in the industry or even at any mall. IMO, for 3 times a month, it'd be like paying $50 for a pizza. Would I try it once? Sure. Would I be on a subscription? Umm, no. LOL. I don't care about whether I could afford it or not. Doing so would just be a turn-off I couldn't block -- just like assuming the GFE was something 'real'.

Now, that said tho -- if using something like SA ends up connecting you with a gal where it IS real, a real FWB, she knows your peers, you know some of hers and the $1 k / mo is under the radar and she's a really great catch far beyond what one could get -- YES, that I totally understand. However, it's not going to be so at the start anyway (but maybe an honest attempt in that direction), so that's why I wouldn't be a fan of it if that was an aim. But sure, if I was hunting for that situation -- like we all do when single or semi-single by the route of the dating scene which we put money down on -- if $1 k / mo was like spending $100/ mo to your average middle-class guy, yeah, worth the cost of the hunt for such a scenario, assuming such hunt would surely end up bringing such a Real FWB scenario in due time.

[QUOTE]Should be at least once a week with 1 dinner date especially paying up front has to be a lot of trust going into it.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I'd agree. Where every month would surely bring the equivalent of that. Like more than 4 times if scheduling conflicts arose but could squeeze in several truck-stop quickies or the like counting as 'one'. I've seen on SA most say a few times a month -- which to me would mean a 4th time would be twisting arms to do so. But girls obviously vary. 4 times a month -- to the length of hanging out with a GF, and them being a Real Peer, a Real FWB -- yah. Worth it.