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I can't believe how many of you guys are buying this noecon/4th wave feminist rap.
Pay attention, look at all these busts after six months NONE OF THEM end up with trafficking convictions, NOBODY in Orlando has even been charged with trafficking. It's always about elections.
Google "Jupiter Florida Mayoral Election"
Every time, without fail, you see these headline grabbing "trafficking" busts there's an election going on.
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That's one example. The many ones I know personally have come here on their own on a visitor or student visa. Then they stay and work. No loan payback, no indentured servitude. A young and smart girl could make 250 k a year cash. An average dumpy girl will make much less but still enough to send a relative fortune back home. They have their own community. They talk to each other. They have smartphones. They make choices. Don't believe the bullshit.
I'm talking about the regular AMP girls. I don't know about the FS places and I don't know about the escorts in the hotels and apartments.
[QUOTE=Fast69;4193200]Years back I talked to some Asians at an AMP on different occasions. I got bits and pieces from each one. But what it all boiled down to was this. They got them here but it costs them $xx, xxx amount they have to payback. I honestly can't remember but I thought it was high like 30 k or 50 k. Plus room and board. They nickel and dime them making it hard for them to get it paid off.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Averily;4193348]That's one example. The many ones I know personally have come here on their own on a visitor or student visa. Then they stay and work. No loan payback, no indentured servitude. A young and smart girl could make 250 k a year cash. An average dumpy girl will make much less but still enough to send a relative fortune back home. They have their own community. They talk to each other. They have smartphones. They make choices. Don't believe the bullshit.
I'm talking about the regular AMP girls. I don't know about the FS places and I don't know about the escorts in the hotels and apartments.[/QUOTE]Given my status and the delayed posting, had I the ability to edit my previous post, I would. I tend to agree with Averily on this.
[QUOTE=Novi123;4153201]I was driving down Wixom, and at the corner of Wixom and West there was a parlor that I had never noticed before. I had a dream that night that I visited there. Standard. 7 cost for an hour with a. 4 h / e, but there was one notable thing: the beds were heated! Anyone else dream of that place? It had a generic name like "Massage".
Also, I hear M1 has a new girl who is a bit overweight, does anyone have a first name she goes by?[/QUOTE]So I decided to check this place out for the first time.
Accordion doors and curtains had me thinking this would not end well.
Good massage with nice teasing so I started thinking the ending could be good after all.
Sadly, not to be. She told me to diy which I flat out refuse to do. Tried to gently get her to do it, but she said she can't and commented on too much LEO out there. She offered to help so I asked how. She offered gentle massage on tummy and inner thighs. I again said no. She said sorry. Finished up the massage and again offered her help if I did it diy. No thanks.
But now I'm wondering. Do you think I should have started diy and then see if she gave more help than she offered? I'm thinking I may have missed out after all.
Anyone have a similar experience?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Bench;4191822]Do you have contact information for her?[/QUOTE]This is Shelly in Clinton Twp. Area.
[URL]https://escortfish.ch/ad/view/sexy-hott-and-ooh-soo-sweet/14270839[/URL]
[QUOTE=Wolverines66;4193434]So I decided to check this place out for the first time.
Do you think I should have started diy and then see if she gave more help than she offered? I'm thinking I may have missed out after all.
Anyone have a similar experience?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I haven't gone there yet, but I was considering it. I might not bother now, given your report. At least not for a while.
I've been to Traditional Massage near there on Pontiac Trail near Beck once before and my experience was a much more positive one that I plan on repeating. The massage was okay, but the lass was friendly & conversational, mostly about the place that I usually go to (she knows the workers there), no DIY hassle, need for negotiation or anything like that. Paid the usual. 7/. 4 on the way out. This was in December, before the Kraft thing in Florida and the Relax busts.
Maybe Star Moon and others might be a bit spooked and are just being cautious with new faces.
[QUOTE=Wolverines66;4193434]So I decided to check this place out for the first time.
Accordion doors and curtains had me thinking this would not end well.
Good massage with nice teasing so I started thinking the ending could be good after all.
Sadly, not to be. She told me to diy which I flat out refuse to do. Tried to gently get her to do it, but she said she can't and commented on too much LEO out there. She offered to help so I asked how. She offered gentle massage on tummy and inner thighs. I again said no. She said sorry. Finished up the massage and again offered her help if I did it diy. No thanks.
But now I'm wondering. Do you think I should have started diy and then see if she gave more help than she offered? I'm thinking I may have missed out after all.
Anyone have a similar experience?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]No sir you did the right move. I highly doubt anything else would've happened if you started the DIY. The 2nd time I ever went to a parlor several years back. Same thing happened to me. I started on the DIY. I felt stupid after I finished. I could've done that shit at home. And the rookie I was she asked for 40 tip and I gave it to her. I'm sure everyone has had different experiences but based on all the DIY's I've read on the forums. You def made the right call.
[QUOTE=Wolverines66;4193434]So I decided to check this place out for the first time.
Accordion doors and curtains had me thinking this would not end well.
Good massage with nice teasing so I started thinking the ending could be good after all.
Sadly, not to be. She told me to diy which I flat out refuse to do. Tried to gently get her to do it, but she said she can't and commented on too much LEO out there. She offered to help so I asked how. She offered gentle massage on tummy and inner thighs. I again said no. She said sorry. Finished up the massage and again offered her help if I did it diy. No thanks.
But now I'm wondering. Do you think I should have started diy and then see if she gave more help than she offered? I'm thinking I may have missed out after all.
Anyone have a similar experience?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Been there several times, standard H / E place. So what happened to you has happened to me before at other places over the years. So what I do to assure them I'm not L / E is when they are massaging me and are standing directly in front of my head I grab there ass with both of my hands and massage it. Then on the flip I make sure to grab the ass again and rub there tits if allowed. If they still say you do it yourself I just grab there hand and put it on my crotch then they smile and finish the job. Works every time.
Anyone questioning whether there have been convictions can use this thing called google. Not sure how it works but if you enter 3 words, "sex trafficking convictions" it does not come up blank. DOJ data and everything.
[blue]Indeed, this is one of them. Three of the guys who were arrested and described as rapists and human traffickers during the Bellvue bust two years ago.
[url]https://patch.com/washington/bellevue/3-league-extraordinary-gentlemen-johns-suing-king-county[/url]
I think a few of you guys have issues with what you do and need it to be much more sordid than it is. It reminds me of something this hooker told me once "I was surprised to find out that a lot of the guys who came to see me wanted to feel bad about what they were doing."
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Just in case anyone cares, Longevity at 14 & Haggerty has been closed for some time now. Saw the boss today doing some work cleaning up or renovating maybe. I didn't have the chance to go ask him.
I saw one review on pure time. Anyone been there this year? Pm if need be.
That prostitute quote was brilliant.
People should read that link from the Patch. Great insight into how politics enters into this game.
If we sigh when the general public are so easily misled about trafficking and "saving" these women then what are we to think of hobbyists who propagate the same bullshit?
[QUOTE=PieBoy;4195928]Anyone questioning whether there have been convictions can use this thing called google. Not sure how it works but if you enter 3 words, "sex trafficking convictions" it does not come up blank. DOJ data and everything.
[blue]Indeed, this is one of them. Three of the guys who were arrested and described as rapists and human traffickers during the Bellvue bust two years ago.
[url]https://patch.com/washington/bellevue/3-league-extraordinary-gentlemen-johns-suing-king-county[/url]
I think a few of you guys have issues with what you do and need it to be much more sordid than it is. It reminds me of something this hooker told me once "I was surprised to find out that a lot of the guys who came to see me wanted to feel bad about what they were doing."
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I've been seeing Jen for a quite a while now, almost 2 years now. For those who have seen her, has she been farting while giving you guys massages?
What was the name and location of the renovated AMP either in Warren or Sterling Heights. I can't seem to find it in the thread. Any good reviews?
Has anyone tried out MH Massage in Southfield? It's been there about a year and I've never seen it mentioned.
[QUOTE=Islander0424;4196895]I've been seeing Jen for a quite a while now, almost 2 years now. For those who have seen her, has she been farting while giving you guys massages?[/QUOTE]I've never noticed that with her, I've always enjoyed the experience with her. She does talk a lot but she is a very nice person and makes up for it with a very happy massage.
[QUOTE=Bzerkley;4197068]What was the name and location of the renovated AMP either in Warren or Sterling Heights. I can't seem to find it in the thread. Any good reviews?[/QUOTE]Not sure what happened, but it's been closed for a few weeks now.
[QUOTE=Islander0424;4196895]I've been seeing Jen for a quite a while now, almost 2 years now. For those who have seen her, has she been farting while giving you guys massages?[/QUOTE]Yes, never really smelled anything, but I've heard it. Not sure if queef or not.
My technique is throw down whatever you are willing to pay in total up front on the table when getting undressed and bring no more in. You run the risk of not getting what you want or overpaying for HE but it sends a really clear signal. I got FS with Katie at SS for $. 1. Honestly not even my intention and I didn't even ask for it. It just happened. Stupidly and regretfully in the heat of the moment it was BB. Major regret.
[QUOTE=Islander0424;4196895]I've been seeing Jen for a quite a while now, almost 2 years now. For those who have seen her, has she been farting while giving you guys massages?[/QUOTE]Yes, it has lessened my desire to rebook with her.
[QUOTE=Islander0424;4196895]I've been seeing Jen for a quite a while now, almost 2 years now. For those who have seen her, has she been farting while giving you guys massages?[/QUOTE]Thank you for helping me cement my decision never to visit an AMP. You say you have paid for farting massages for two years?
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Maybe Star Moon and others might be a bit spooked and are just being cautious with new faces.[/QUOTE]That's probably all it is. I stopped at my usual place on Saturday and got the same great massage, etc. I usually get. If it's your first time at a place, expect that "YMMV" is definitely going to apply to you.
[QUOTE=Anon2854;4197234]Has anyone tried out MH Massage in Southfield? It's been there about a year and I've never seen it mentioned.[/QUOTE]There's a reason why you haven't seen MH Massage mentioned. It's a "legit" massage. I say "legit" because they are not certified. If you pay for a hhr they MIGHT tease you and say get a longer one next time. After you come back and pay for an hr they say "We no do that here. ".
[QUOTE=Anon2854;4197503]My technique is throw down whatever you are willing to pay in total up front on the table when getting undressed and bring no more in. You run the risk of not getting what you want or overpaying for HE but it sends a really clear signal. I got FS with Katie at SS for $. 1. Honestly not even my intention and I didn't even ask for it. It just happened. Stupidly and regretfully in the heat of the moment it was BB. Major regret.[/QUOTE]Whoa! You BB Katie? I'm extremely familiar with her and you are down and out for awhile. Trust me make sure you see your physician within the next 6 mos. Don't bang anybody until after that. Unless she cleared it up from a few years ago but I doubt it.
[QUOTE=Islander0424;4196895]I've been seeing Jen for a quite a while now, almost 2 years now. For those who have seen her, has she been farting while giving you guys massages?[/QUOTE]Aw hell naw!
But at $.5 for what she does I knew there had to be a catch.
[QUOTE=Islander0424;4196895]I've been seeing Jen for a quite a while now, almost 2 years now. For those who have seen her, has she been farting while giving you guys massages?[/QUOTE]Not to my knowledge but that may open up a new market for her from some of you kinky fucks LOL.
[QUOTE=Esctol6;4197313]I've never noticed that with her, I've always enjoyed the experience with her. She does talk a lot but she is a very nice person and makes up for it with a very happy massage.[/QUOTE]What's funny is she probably talks a lot to mask the sound of her farting. She thinks you don't hear it, but you really do. If you hear it and happen to catch her eye just right, you can exchange a knowing glance without words having to be said. Then it's like your little secret and then, because you're keeping her little secret (and not exposing her habit, which some would find disgusting), she might ("might") give you even better service. I mean, that's what I would do.
I love the tease it gets me so worked up and I like a little assplay. Any recommendations?
[QUOTE=ShvdSchtick;4198140]I love the tease it gets me so worked up and I like a little assplay. Any recommendations?[/QUOTE]I swear to you the tease is what drives me crazy. Hell I can do that for 30 minutes alone. I love that shit!
One Care (when Judy was there).
Famous. But she went further and lubed up her finger and fingered my asshole deep while giving me an oily handshake. I made one hell of a cummy mess.
Relax (Ferndale) no closed did the same thing those are the only places I know that will take it a step further beyond the tease if you say so on the flip.
[QUOTE=TwistedBrother;4197944]What's funny is she probably talks a lot to mask the sound of her farting. She thinks you don't hear it, but you really do. If you hear it and happen to catch her eye just right, you can exchange a knowing glance without words having to be said. Then it's like your little secret and then, because you're keeping her little secret (and not exposing her habit, which some would find disgusting), she might ("might") give you even better service. I mean, that's what I would do.[/QUOTE]LMAO! Bro that is hands down one of the funniest posts I've ever read. I have luckily never experienced that with her. Or at least I don't think I did!
[QUOTE=WinterKnight;4197563]Thank you for helping me cement my decision never to visit an AMP. You say you have paid for farting massages for two years?[/QUOTE]Except Jen / Massage Breeze is not an AMP, she's not Asian and it's not a Massage Parlor. She's white and works out of her home.
[QUOTE=PieBoy;4195928]Anyone questioning whether there have been convictions can use this thing called google. Not sure how it works but if you enter 3 words, "sex trafficking convictions" it does not come up blank. DOJ data and everything.
[blue]Indeed, this is one of them. Three of the guys who were arrested and described as rapists and human traffickers during the Bellvue bust two years ago.
[url]https://patch.com/washington/bellevue/3-league-extraordinary-gentlemen-johns-suing-king-county[/url]
I think a few of you guys have issues with what you do and need it to be much more sordid than it is. It reminds me of something this hooker told me once "I was surprised to find out that a lot of the guys who came to see me wanted to feel bad about what they were doing."
A2[/blue][/QUOTE]Before I ever commented on this forum, I read back many many pages, and one of the most consistent observations by all the commenters was that women who work at AMP's are 90% over the age of 40, and 10% over the age of 30. If there is "sex trafficking" of young women, it's not happening in Michigan. The women who work at the AMP's here are not being forced to do it at all.
The news media makes it seem like AMP workers are underage teenagers, and that is a bold face misrepresentation of the truth. The only AMP I frequented where I ever met two girls who were both 21, was one on roch road a couple years ago and it closed down fast.
I do know that at a few of the places, the women sleep at the AMP, but not because they are forced to, but because they literally stay here for their 30 day shift, save all their money, and then go back to their houses / apartments back in NY where they don't work for a few months. They've told me this and explained the process extensively. In other countries, sleeping at the business is normal, because many small businesses are at peoples houses, but in America this is looked down on, so the people running the business should wise up and rent a house separate from the AMP.
If I ever saw an underage girl or a young woman who in any way looked like she was being held hostage to work at a massage parlor, I'd call the police myself! But like I said, at least here in Michigan, I don't believe it occurs.
[QUOTE=Wally2822;4198313]LMAO! Bro that is hands down one of the funniest posts I've ever read. I have luckily never experienced that with her. Or at least I don't think I did![/QUOTE]That is funny for sure. One time I was getting massaged and had to fart. I held it till it hurt. I was like one more push by her and you guessed it. I fuckin parted her hair.
Was in Rochester and thought I'd stop by eastern massage after striking out on st patty's day. Nothing has changed lots of teasing then on the flip rubbed my balls for DIY. Tipped 20 and left.
Yesterday on Dave and Chuck the freak they were talking about AMP and someone called in and spoke about getting happy endings at a place on the Troy- Clawson border. I wonder what place they were talking about. Anyone been there, any good? LOL.
LMFAO. Way to work the situation in your favor man!
[QUOTE=TwistedBrother;4197944]What's funny is she probably talks a lot to mask the sound of her farting. She thinks you don't hear it, but you really do. If you hear it and happen to catch her eye just right, you can exchange a knowing glance without words having to be said. Then it's like your little secret and then, because you're keeping her little secret (and not exposing her habit, which some would find disgusting), she might ("might") give you even better service. I mean, that's what I would do.[/QUOTE]
Anyone seen Jen at Saigon since she been back? PM me with details if you have.
Visited the hidden AMP on Southfield road in Lathrup. Girl was younger and much better looking than average AMP girl. Massage was decent on the flip paid 1 Benjamin for a lackluster BBBJ and wasn't allowed to finish in mouth. Would probably just go for the standard HE next time.
[QUOTE=WinterKnight;4197563]Thank you for helping me cement my decision never to visit an AMP. You say you have paid for farting massages for two years?[/QUOTE]I thought I was tripping at first, I honestly thought it was the massage table. But she recently started doing it.
[QUOTE=NeilYoung999;4199117]Yesterday on Dave and Chuck the freak they were talking about AMP and someone called in and spoke about getting happy endings at a place on the Troy- Clawson border. I wonder what place they were talking about. Anyone been there, any good? LOL.[/QUOTE]WTF! C'Mon. Man it's already hot out and some fool actually gave up the location live on the air? There's only one spot and I go often and since he did that I feel sorry for you newbies because they might say DIY. It took me 3 visits last year now I get it no hesitation no discussion. Jackass. He just invited the police to come in.