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[QUOTE=Lipchit;6472370]I'll be visiting in a couple of weeks and noticed that Follies is no longer around, it's been awhile since I've been there, about 6 years now. With that out of the way, where can a person go to get what Follies used to offer. I did have some great times there, there was this lawyer that hung out there that introduced me to a couple of ladies and payed for a few dances for me. He did this middle aged white guy a solid. So again, where is the go to for a solid Follies experience, and thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Check out Vivide, you can do Tattletales for overall prettier talent imo but there's a huge premium. If you like Latinas then Vivide is pretty consistent, they have AAs and white girls but I feel their AA turnover is high and they have few white girls so usually are on reserve.
YMMV but when I see a girl that's new that doesn't know my reputation, if she's Latina I give her 2 dances to impress. The ones D2 F usually get near full nude by then, full grope. When she escalates, then you match and amplify. This let's her relax that you're not skittish & their for real action. If she offers VIP by 2-3 dances that's better. The ones that withhold longer I feel will be more coy, I prefer the ones that hit the ground running. Be direct but quiet and discrete, and explicitly say you want 30 full minutes. Some will offer the basics but try to rush 5-10 min in.
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Oasis / Pinups
I just saw some IG posts that Pinups is closed and Oasis is opening there. 4-5 weeks for renovations.
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[QUOTE=HornyMed1;6475321]I just saw some IG posts that Pinups is closed and Oasis is opening there. 4-5 weeks for renovations.[/QUOTE]Unless you're willing to link to one of these post you observed, don't spread false info.
What you just said doesn't make any sense.
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Oasis
Saw it on one of the old Oasis dancers IG. Skarlettknight4. 20 reposted about it.
Plus the comments on Clubpinupsatl IG.
[QUOTE=Wleakr;6475370]Unless you're willing to link to one of these post you observed, don't spread false info.
What you just said doesn't make any sense.[/QUOTE]
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Pinups
[QUOTE=Wleakr;6475370]Unless you're willing to link to one of these post you observed, don't spread false info.
What you just said doesn't make any sense.[/QUOTE]
I have a dancer friend from Pinups that said the same thing about Pinups closing on her IG. No mention of Oasis. Texted her to get more info. I know personally a different dancer that was on one of the poles that collapsed during her set and broke her arm. Don't know if the lawsuit hit yet. If it is closed, I see more girls moving to Blaze since they can use the same Dekalb permit. Strokers is city of Clarkston for permits. More details when discovered.
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Shooting
[QUOTE=RondaColdSon;6473806]It was late night. You have a higher chance of being shot in a grocery store these days than a strip club during the dayshift.[/QUOTE]Info from one of the security personnel. The man shot was a local rapper and he parked at the back of the parking lot closest to the street by the Shell station. When he left the club, the shooter was parked on that street and watched him walk to his car and ran down the hill and shot him, they got back in the car and left. Heard he was the brother of one of the dancers. He frequented the club regularly. Targeted more likely than random.
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Got confirmation this is correct. Pin ups switching to Oasis in 4-5 weeks. They will be open 7 days a week and have VIP rooms.
[QUOTE=HomeRun17;6475493]I have a dancer friend from Pinups that said the same thing about Pinups closing on her IG. No mention of Oasis. Texted her to get more info. I know personally a different dancer that was on one of the poles that collapsed during her set and broke her arm. Don't know if the lawsuit hit yet. If it is closed, I see more girls moving to Blaze since they can use the same Dekalb permit. Strokers is city of Clarkston for permits. More details when discovered.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Goodfella1;6477511]Got confirmation this is correct. Pin ups switching to Oasis in 4-5 weeks. They will be open 7 days a week and have VIP rooms.[/QUOTE]That sounds crazy. I guess they will be headed to Miami for a few weeks. There's no way Blaze can accommodate that many dancers influx. It will be interesting.
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Closure
[QUOTE=HomeRun17;6475493]I have a dancer friend from Pinups that said the same thing about Pinups closing on her IG. No mention of Oasis. Texted her to get more info. I know personally a different dancer that was on one of the poles that collapsed during her set and broke her arm. Don't know if the lawsuit hit yet. If it is closed, I see more girls moving to Blaze since they can use the same Dekalb permit. Strokers is city of Clarkston for permits. More details when discovered.[/QUOTE]Owners of Oasis purchased Pinups as of yesterday / today.
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2 of my regs said some are also to vivide. They have been selling me on the new Oasis pretty hard. Saying management is going to step up.
Let's see. I was never a huge fan of Oasis. But I last went in 2017 ish and I was comparing it to follies.
[QUOTE=JoggingPants;6477650]That sounds crazy. I guess they will be headed to Miami for a few weeks. There's no way Blaze can accommodate that many dancers influx. It will be interesting.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Goodfella1;6477714]2 of my regs said some are also to vivide. They have been selling me on the new Oasis pretty hard. Saying management is going to step up.
Let's see. I was never a huge fan of Oasis. But I last went in 2017 ish and I was comparing it to follies.[/QUOTE]Wasn't Oasis a predominately white club?
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[QUOTE=JoggingPants;6477650]That sounds crazy. I guess they will be headed to Miami for a few weeks. There's no way Blaze can accommodate that many dancers influx. It will be interesting.[/QUOTE]When Pinups starting making changes to policy and layout some months back, a lot of girls working at that time left the club. Very few of them went to Blaze and they didn't go back to Pinups after things calmed down a bit.
I could see a few of the current girls going, if it's just going to be temporary.
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[QUOTE=OutsideProof;6477676]Owners of Oasis purchased Pinups as of yesterday / today.[/QUOTE]Wow, never heard of a club coming back from the dead before.
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[QUOTE=Goodfella1;6477714]2 of my regs said some are also to vivide. They have been selling me on the new Oasis pretty hard. Saying management is going to step up.
Let's see. I was never a huge fan of Oasis. But I last went in 2017 ish and I was comparing it to follies.[/QUOTE]The real question is it about to be some air dance lame club or what? I haven't been to pinups in a few months now because it just didn't seem to be worth the drive as far as bang for your buck. Is it going to be better or worse for fast songs, air dances, etc etc or will it be going back to old pinups when you used to leave feeling like you got your moneys worth?
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Back From the Dead
[QUOTE=Joesouncool;6477748]Wow, never heard of a club coming back from the dead before.[/QUOTE]Predict a short lived train wreck on this endeavor. Visited both clubs several times and there is no intersection of customers, dancers, management style, or customer expectations between these two clubs. Is the white good ol boy crowd from OTP going to drive down through the fringes of the hood to visit the AA dancers or newly hired white dancers? Or is the new management team going to learn how to manage in a completely different culture to provide the local customer base a good experience? Unlike Oasis, the new club will have to serve Cognac and encourage dancers to get nude and deliver some decent mileage (most recent dancers won't need any direction on this). Oasis was miserable for mileage. Lets hope that's all left behind since an air dance club at the Pin Ups location won't be a popular destination.
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[QUOTE=JoggingPants;6477914]The real question is it about to be some air dance lame club or what? I haven't been to pinups in a few months now because it just didn't seem to be worth the drive as far as bang for your buck. Is it going to be better or worse for fast songs, air dances, etc etc or will it be going back to old pinups when you used to leave feeling like you got your moneys worth?[/QUOTE]I never went to Oasis or Pinups, they either adopt the hood locale or force the eclectic market from before. I lived in Decatur and had no idea that it was right next to that nice new Publix, lots of old Decatur money goes there so maybe it's not a stigma of being too hood. Tattlestales, Pink Pony are about 20-25 min west so depending origin they could steal customers IF they make a better product, so it can't be PP air dances or not premium priced guarantee like TT. I doubt they'll pull Vivide crowd, being on the opposite side of city. Plus V seems to benefit from being slightly out of sight out of mind. I feel like old Decatur will be on them like a hawk, but Oasis knows the extras game & considering this high risk investment they must know they can't fuck it up early.
Being in north Brookhaven, I have high hopes for this renewal. V is my favorite but it's a pain in the ass to drive through ATL traffic.
To survive they need to beat the other clubs offerings:
1) Prices: $10 dances, $20 max. Free parking, can just park Publix lot. Drinks, I stick to soda. VIP needs to be less than V, so $260/30 min max.
2) Talent: Quality girls of all looks. Otherwise you just go to a black club, V for Latinas / AAs, TT / PP for whites.
3) Gratuity: Hands on dances right off the bat like V. Not this multiple visit courting like PP.
4) Relaxed culture: At V, I can relax bc mostly all the girls know the deal and management is openly ok with it. Unlike the buzz kill TT dj who yells no touching every 10 min.
5) Hours: I heard it's 7 days so great, but they should push the quality of night shift. V sucks after 8 pm, TT can be dead some nights, and PP has a lot customer competition at night.
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[QUOTE=JoggingPants;6477914]The real question is it about to be some air dance lame club or what? I haven't been to pinups in a few months now because it just didn't seem to be worth the drive as far as bang for your buck. Is it going to be better or worse for fast songs, air dances, etc etc or will it be going back to old pinups when you used to leave feeling like you got your moneys worth?[/QUOTE]If they are really changing the name to Oasis, that speaks to wanting to lean somewhat to whatever brand of club it was before (which I have no idea of). Otherwise, they'd come up with a different name entirely, like Vivide.
While Pinups wasn't as much fun as it used to be, I still had a couple chicks here that made it worth coming out. Another $5 spot gone. RIP. Wax and Blaze probably on borrowed time also.
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With what customer base?
[QUOTE=Wleakr;6478484]
While Pinups wasn't as much fun as it used to be, I still had a couple chicks here that made it worth coming out. Another $5 spot gone. RIP. Wax and Blaze probably on borrowed time also.[/QUOTE]There is no market for wax and blaze to change. I honestly can't see Pinups changing much because their price structure is already at a premium, but wax and blaze are already bleeding customers because of overhead costs. Wax is basically poor mans vivide, going there for only dances doesn't make much sense with the parking, door, and alcohol prices. Wax doesn't have the type of girls that can demand 10 dollar lapdances let alone air dances at any price. If anything, Blaze will absorb 5 dollar pinups girls and get a little bit better.
But this economy can't support any more make it rain clubs.
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Change on the southside
On the other side of Old Nat there was a hole in the wall club called Knockouts. They started having dancers on poker nights which turned into almost every night. It was amateur dancers and was DO heaven. Me and a few other members on the board definitely have utilized the dark areas of the place. And judge me if you want but I've had plenty of BBFSCIP for very decent prices in this spot. It's not what you do it's how you do it. However recently they have closed down, renovated, and changed the name to temperature restaurant and lounge (TRL). From the looks of it they went the overhyped atlanta vibe route. Tons of pretty young waitresses, overpriced hooka, and more of a club atmosphere. The new dancers I saw online were more saddity type dancers. I.
Going to check the new spot out and keep you guys posted.
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A Visit to Vivide
I got there around 4 today and was, as usually, grabbed by the 40-something DR chick with bolt-ons and loves to give massages. After letting her give me 4 dances I had an AA spinner from Chicago, second time she danced for me and damn she is sexy ASF. She had Jr out and sliding all over her pussy, I thought for a minute there that she might stick it in but alas, no. Then another AA spinner who claimed to be drunk but not so drunk that she tried to scam me on dances as she did not count but I did. When the 3rd song started I said this is 3, right? She said no, this is 5. I said we are done gave her 2 Hamiltons and told her to shove off. Then a Cuban I have had several times who is a bit chunky but speaks enough English to converse and she also had him out. When she wasn't looking I unbuttoned my pants and made her think it was her dancing. She also did some good sliding. All in all, a good visit.
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[QUOTE=SgtLurker;6478924]I got there around 4 today and was, as usually, grabbed by the 40-something DR chick with bolt-ons and loves to give massages. After letting her give me 4 dances I had an AA spinner from Chicago, second time she danced for me and damn she is sexy ASF. She had Jr out and sliding all over her pussy, I thought for a minute there that she might stick it in but alas, no. Then another AA spinner who claimed to be drunk but not so drunk that she tried to scam me on dances as she did not count but I did. When the 3rd song started I said this is 3, right? She said no, this is 5. I said we are done gave her 2 Hamiltons and told her to shove off. Then a Cuban I have had several times who is a bit chunky but speaks enough English to converse and she also had him out. When she wasn't looking I unbuttoned my pants and made her think it was her dancing. She also did some good sliding. All in all, a good visit.[/QUOTE]Where do you sit in Vivide to get good dances? Seems like it's too open to do these things, but I'm not a regular there to know the good seats.
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I'm a little surprised by all of this oasis dislike. I'm not a lap dance out in the open guy, but I will agree that there was a lot of air dancing happened. I just never had a problem getting some pussy there. I even got my bucket list item of sex in VIP card punched there. There are plenty of girls that would fuck for money, or free, there.
I agree that if they go in and completely change pinups, that the current customer base is out of there. I also agree that it is not guaranteed that they can attract their old crowd. I do know all of the oasis dancers are talking about this amongst each other.
As I understand the market, there is pp, cheetah, and tattletales and that is it for the predominantly white clubs in atl. I do think there is room for another. Like you guys, I'm not sure that people will drive to the new location. I've been surprised before by the marketplace. We'll see what happens.
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Where did I sit?
Right next to where they girls dressing rooms are. If they know how to hide it, it is quite easy. I have gotten DO dances all over the club EXCEPT next to the DJ. Barry doesn't care but apparently, there were a couple of other managers there yesterday so the girls were careful to put it away and hide it when they came around.
Also, no pimps yesterday. Weird. Drug Dealer was there as usual.
[QUOTE=JoggingPants;6479425]Where do you sit in Vivide to get good dances? Seems like it's too open to do these things, but I'm not a regular there to know the good seats.[/QUOTE]
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Low Mileage
[QUOTE=Joesouncool;6479479]I'm a little surprised by all of this oasis dislike. I'm not a lap dance out in the open guy, but I will agree that there was a lot of air dancing happened. I just never had a problem getting some pussy there. I even got my bucket list item of sex in VIP card punched there. There are plenty of girls that would fuck for money, or free, there.
.[/QUOTE]The dislike comes from the low mileage and the lack of dancer diversity for me. When I finally found one decent looking AA that was eager to please the manager said the best spot for my dances was standing against the wall with no chair to sit in even though there were 10 empty tables (reserved for later). I'm sure the arrogant prick could have found a chair somewhere in the club for me but he did not. I'm white, elderly, dress decent, and had ample funds to obtain whatever dances I desired. I got the vibe of club real quick. It was a place for regulars. It reminded me of Cheers. Not a hostile environment and nothing wrong with the patrons but the no place to sit or air dances on the occasions that I was seated left a bad taste in my mouth. I'm sure a regular could get laid with the right amount of interaction but I don't drive 2. 5 hours to get air dances with white women. We have plenty of sloppy white women with bad tattoos and drug habits in SC. No need to travel to see that. And yes, there were some decent looking women in the club. Just really despise the place. Sorry for the regulars, but I didn't bat an eye when it closed. Some of the dancers showed up at Vivide which lasted about a week before they had all departed as they were just taking up space. No, I don't see a fit for then with the Pin Ups customer base but it's going to be fun to see how things go (well I hope. The more good clubs the better).
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[QUOTE=HeywoodDJ;6478464]I never went to Oasis or Pinups, they either adopt the hood locale or force the eclectic market from before. I lived in Decatur and had no idea that it was right next to that nice new Publix, lots of old Decatur money goes there so maybe it's not a stigma of being too hood. Tattlestales, Pink Pony are about 20-25 min west so depending origin they could steal customers IF they make a better product, so it can't be PP air dances or not premium priced guarantee like TT. I doubt they'll pull Vivide crowd, being on the opposite side of city. Plus V seems to benefit from being slightly out of sight out of mind. I feel like old Decatur will be on them like a hawk, but Oasis knows the extras game & considering this high risk investment they must know they can't fuck it up early.
Being in north Brookhaven, I have high hopes for this renewal. V is my favorite but it's a pain in the ass to drive through ATL traffic.
To survive they need to beat the other clubs offerings:
1) Prices: $10 dances, $20 max. Free parking, can just park Publix lot. Drinks, I stick to soda. VIP needs to be less than V, so $260/30 min max.
2) Talent: Quality girls of all looks. Otherwise you just go to a black club, V for Latinas / AAs, TT / PP for whites.
3) Gratuity: Hands on dances right off the bat like V. Not this multiple visit courting like PP.
4) Relaxed culture: At V, I can relax bc mostly all the girls know the deal and management is openly ok with it. Unlike the buzz kill TT dj who yells no touching every 10 min.
5) Hours: I heard it's 7 days so great, but they should push the quality of night shift. V sucks after 8 pm, TT can be dead some nights, and PP has a lot customer competition at night.[/QUOTE]Interesting development with the new "Oasis". As mentioned, there seems to be a high demand for strip clubs that cater to the caucasian market. I am a white bro and lot of my fellow compadres won't go to Vivide, Goldrush, or Wax. TT prices are too inflated; PP is only air dances, and Cheetah was just a high dollar hustle for me. Hopefully the make a good run because Atlanta seems to be the only city in the Southeast with any decent strip club scene.
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[QUOTE=Parkway91;6480179]Interesting development with the new "Oasis". As mentioned, there seems to be a high demand for strip clubs that cater to the caucasian market. I am a white bro and lot of my fellow compadres won't go to Vivide, Goldrush, or Wax. TT prices are too inflated; PP is only air dances, and Cheetah was just a high dollar hustle for me. Hopefully the make a good run because Atlanta seems to be the only city in the Southeast with any decent strip club scene.[/QUOTE]I remember when there was a strip club on every corner. How the mighty have fallen..
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[QUOTE=JMAbacus;6479839]The dislike comes from the low mileage and the lack of dancer diversity for me. When I finally found one decent looking AA that was eager to please the manager said the best spot for my dances was standing against the wall with no chair to sit in even though there were 10 empty tables (reserved for later). I'm sure the arrogant prick could have found a chair somewhere in the club for me but he did not. I'm white, elderly, dress decent, and had ample funds to obtain whatever dances I desired. I got the vibe of club real quick. It was a place for regulars. It reminded me of Cheers. Not a hostile environment and nothing wrong with the patrons but the no place to sit or air dances on the occasions that I was seated left a bad taste in my mouth. I'm sure a regular could get laid with the right amount of interaction but I don't drive 2. 5 hours to get air dances with white women. We have plenty of sloppy white women with bad tattoos and drug habits in SC. No need to travel to see that. And yes, there were some decent looking women in the club. Just really despise the place. Sorry for the regulars, but I didn't bat an eye when it closed. Some of the dancers showed up at Vivide which lasted about a week before they had all departed as they were just taking up space. No, I don't see a fit for then with the Pin Ups customer base but it's going to be fun to see how things go (well I hope. The more good clubs the better).[/QUOTE]I hear you. I never did understand why tables and chairs were reserved. I used them for dances and told waitresses I was using them for a dance and would be up shortly. Never did get any pushback, though I never did have to deal with some manager either. It does suck when a manager wants to be a douche. It does ruin the time when some manager is a douche.
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Vivide scouting report?
After being away pushing near 2 months from V I'm due for a visit. Any regulars notice if its still been in peak mode or if theres been a large new crop of girls? My last several visits from late day shifts on Wed to Fri nights have been random, 1 being the hottest its been and another completely dead. Hoping for a change of pace from 2 usual girls so when its busy I like to slip around.
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Last Week
When I was there last week, I only saw a handful of girls I had seen previously but it had been close to 2 months since my last visit. Been Traveling. Hopefully will be back on Friday.
[QUOTE=HeywoodDJ;6483050]After being away pushing near 2 months from V I'm due for a visit. Any regulars notice if its still been in peak mode or if theres been a large new crop of girls? My last several visits from late day shifts on Wed to Fri nights have been random, 1 being the hottest its been and another completely dead. Hoping for a change of pace from 2 usual girls so when its busy I like to slip around.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Parkway91;6480179]Interesting development with the new "Oasis". As mentioned, there seems to be a high demand for strip clubs that cater to the caucasian market. I am a white bro and lot of my fellow compadres won't go to Vivide, Goldrush, or Wax. TT prices are too inflated; PP is only air dances, and Cheetah was just a high dollar hustle for me. Hopefully the make a good run because Atlanta seems to be the only city in the Southeast with any decent strip club scene.[/QUOTE]It's weird, some dudes talk about Pink Pony as takeout and sugarbaby central, I believe the phrase "the fish jump into the boat" was used somewhere back. Given that PP girls are only below Cheetah in looks, I'd figure that if you lived anywhere near Atlanta, that would be the better bet than trying to score from a 7 in Vivide.
But then there's the crowd that only talks about how PP is all air dances and a complete waste of time, doesn't really mention OTC action at all. Having only been to the club twice and that being a few years back, I'm not sure what to believe LOL.
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[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6484129]It's weird, some dudes talk about Pink Pony as takeout and sugarbaby central, I believe the phrase "the fish jump into the boat" was used somewhere back. Given that PP girls are only below Cheetah in looks, I'd figure that if you lived anywhere near Atlanta, that would be the better bet than trying to score from a 7 in Vivide.
But then there's the crowd that only talks about how PP is all air dances and a complete waste of time, doesn't really mention OTC action at all. Having only been to the club twice and that being a few years back, I'm not sure what to believe LOL.[/QUOTE]Both are true. What you get depends on what you fish with. If you go in looking for a heavy grind and extras in VIP, you will be disappointed with the air dances and the fact that there will be little else. If you go to the pp thinking that you are going to tell some girl there's he is just a hooker, you are going to be disappointed. PP girls are going to think of themselves as better. These aren't girls with no options. They aren't looking to make some rent money for the night. These are girls that think they are high class call girls that can demand more money. The PP is the only club where a girl wanted to spend 3 hours talking about economics, venture capital and startups, and wasn't interested in my paying for a dance or VIP. I've found that if you talk to the girls like they are real people, there are some girls at the pp that will just give it up for free. It's not every dancer. It's probably just a few. It's happened enough to me that the PP stands out. Dancers, waitresses, shooter girls, they are all in play at the pp.
Anyone is free to call me a liar. I do not care. I've always treated dancers nice enough, but not a simp. I've found that the pp is where I've had the most luck. Yes, I'm the guy that says that at the pony, the fish jump in the boat.
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[QUOTE=Joesouncool;6484209]Both are true. What you get depends on what you fish with. If you go in looking for a heavy grind and extras in VIP, you will be disappointed with the air dances and the fact that there will be little else. If you go to the pp thinking that you are going to tell some girl there's he is just a hooker, you are going to be disappointed. PP girls are going to think of themselves as better. These aren't girls with no options. They aren't looking to make some rent money for the night. These are girls that think they are high class call girls that can demand more money. The PP is the only club where a girl wanted to spend 3 hours talking about economics, venture capital and startups, and wasn't interested in my paying for a dance or VIP. I've found that if you talk to the girls like they are real people, there are some girls at the pp that will just give it up for free. It's not every dancer. It's probably just a few. It's happened enough to me that the PP stands out. Dancers, waitresses, shooter girls, they are all in play at the pp.
Anyone is free to call me a liar. I do not care. I've always treated dancers nice enough, but not a simp. I've found that the pp is where I've had the most luck. Yes, I'm the guy that says that at the pony, the fish jump in the boat.[/QUOTE]In my very few visits to PP, when other stripclubs were mentioned PP girls did think themselves as much better. Even saying Tattletales the girls are trashy and have STDs (despite to me TT and PP have similar quality in their top talent). I can see how the casual long game is more suited to PP as earlier in the nights its pretty mellow and you can have a normal volume talk and not compete with as many regulars. I want to go more often to find at least 1 PP girl for takeout, but its tough to turn down the cheaper gratification from $10 Vivide dances / guaranteed VIP. I like that PP girls don't have many clones of each other, there's usually 1 of each hair color, body weight, ethnicity, best features, tattoos, all natural, enhanced. Lots of variety.
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Results
This. Everytime I've got numbers or free play it was by just talking to the dancer like a normal person. Sure, it could be dumb luck too. Now, 3 hours is waay to long to chat with a broad just for free VIP LOL but to each their own.
Odds are not in your favor if you're trying to use cash alone to impress or get extras in a "non-extras" club.
I've found that townies or out of town visitors / weekend warriors are more willing to do take out.
Any clue on the percentage or girls at PP who are actual "locals" born / raised from the surrounding burbs or tiny towns?
Last summer V had alot of random out of towners. A buddy of mine got takeout from a pair visiting from OKC for the low price of 2 bottles of hennesey and some takeout seafood. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=Joesouncool;6484209]Both are true. What you get depends on what you fish with. If you go in looking for a heavy grind and extras in VIP, you will be disappointed with the air dances and the fact that there will be little else. If you go to the pp thinking that you are going to tell some girl there's he is just a hooker, you are going to be disappointed. PP girls are going to think of themselves as better. These aren't girls with no options. They aren't looking to make some rent money for the night. These are girls that think they are high class call girls that can demand more money. The PP is the only club where a girl wanted to spend 3 hours talking about economics, venture capital and startups, and wasn't interested in my paying for a dance or VIP. I've found that if you talk to the girls like they are real people, there are some girls at the pp that will just give it up for free. It's not every dancer. It's probably just a few. It's happened enough to me that the PP stands out. Dancers, waitresses, shooter girls, they are all in play at the pp.
Anyone is free to call me a liar. I do not care. I've always treated dancers nice enough, but not a simp. I've found that the pp is where I've had the most luck. Yes, I'm the guy that says that at the pony, the fish jump in the boat.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Joesouncool;6484209]Both are true. What you get depends on what you fish with. If you go in looking for a heavy grind and extras in VIP, you will be disappointed with the air dances and the fact that there will be little else. If you go to the pp thinking that you are going to tell some girl there's he is just a hooker, you are going to be disappointed. PP girls are going to think of themselves as better. These aren't girls with no options. They aren't looking to make some rent money for the night. These are girls that think they are high class call girls that can demand more money. The PP is the only club where a girl wanted to spend 3 hours talking about economics, venture capital and startups, and wasn't interested in my paying for a dance or VIP. I've found that if you talk to the girls like they are real people, there are some girls at the pp that will just give it up for free. It's not every dancer. It's probably just a few. It's happened enough to me that the PP stands out. Dancers, waitresses, shooter girls, they are all in play at the pp.
Anyone is free to call me a liar. I do not care. I've always treated dancers nice enough, but not a simp. I've found that the pp is where I've had the most luck. Yes, I'm the guy that says that at the pony, the fish jump in the boat.[/QUOTE]Some PP dancers are straight up escorts that post on Eros and Tryst, same as any other club. But if we are talking in general I certainly agree it is easy to find one for OTC and possibly for "free". However, that free sessions turns into them asking when you're going out again. I have yet to find a dancer at PP that is willing to be a fwb / sneaky link. I don't go there often as much as I did in the past, but it was always a pressure to be something more if you went the conversation route for OTC.
Believe it or not you can find an Allure or Onyx girl to talk to for 1-2 hrs and get free OTC if you can stay up long enough for her to text you at 5-6 am leaving the club. After midnight your chances drastically decrease.
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[QUOTE=GetHintHere007;6484366]This. Everytime I've got numbers or free play it was by just talking to the dancer like a normal person. Sure, it could be dumb luck too. Now, 3 hours is waay to long to chat with a broad just for free VIP LOL but to each their own.
Odds are not in your favor if you're trying to use cash alone to impress or get extras in a "non-extras" club.
I've found that townies or out of town visitors / weekend warriors are more willing to do take out.
Any clue on the percentage or girls at PP who are actual "locals" born / raised from the surrounding burbs or tiny towns?
Last summer V had alot of random out of towners. A buddy of mine got takeout from a pair visiting from OKC for the low price of 2 bottles of hennesey and some takeout seafood. Hahaha.[/QUOTE]Just to follow up on the 3 hours statement. Yes, it did happen. I would never claim it is common. Hell, I'd never talk to anybody for three hours on anything. It was 3 hours spread across two visits, so call it 1. 5 hours at a time. It wasn't during a heavy time. It was early evening, not a lot of people there. Trust me, I'm not loaded with money. She knew that. Apologies if I led anyone to believe it was 3 hours at one time.
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[QUOTE=RondaColdSon;6484499]Some PP dancers are straight up escorts that post on Eros and Tryst, same as any other club. But if we are talking in general I certainly agree it is easy to find one for OTC and possibly for "free". However, that free sessions turns into them asking when you're going out again. I have yet to find a dancer at PP that is willing to be a fwb / sneaky link. I don't go there often as much as I did in the past, but it was always a pressure to be something more if you went the conversation route for OTC.
Believe it or not you can find an Allure or Onyx girl to talk to for 1-2 hrs and get free OTC if you can stay up long enough for her to text you at 5-6 am leaving the club. After midnight your chances drastically decrease.[/QUOTE]I've probably been to PP 6-8 times the past year. I've found it a good club to chill and I don't get swarmed by dancers there. I like the traditional 4 stage setup. As Heywood said, some dancers put up a front they are there just to "dance" and make money, but that could be a front. I just don't spend very much time with them or do VIP. I haven't gotten any #'s there and usually at other clubs girls will give me their #. From what I can tell, they want you to do VIP and maybe from there some OTC can evolve. From my experience, it seemed Goldrush would be good for OTC. The girls I've met there are really chilled out, but I generally do better w / AA strippers than white strippers and I'm white.
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[QUOTE=Parkway91;6484936]I've probably been to PP 6-8 times the past year. I've found it a good club to chill and I don't get swarmed by dancers there. I like the traditional 4 stage setup. As Heywood said, some dancers put up a front they are there just to "dance" and make money, but that could be a front. I just don't spend very much time with them or do VIP. I haven't gotten any #'s there and usually at other clubs girls will give me their #. From what I can tell, they want you to do VIP and maybe from there some OTC can evolve. From my experience, it seemed Goldrush would be good for OTC. The girls I've met there are really chilled out, but I generally do better w / AA strippers than white strippers and I'm white.[/QUOTE]I've been propositioned by an escort there while I was sitting at the bar. It wasn't random. She had seen me with one of her friends. Never got a dance or did a VIP with her. I think that there are all types at pp.
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[QUOTE=Joesouncool;6485165]I've been propositioned by an escort there while I was sitting at the bar. It wasn't random. She had seen me with one of her friends. Never got a dance or did a VIP with her. I think that there are all types at pp.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I just haven't run across them, but I'm guessing they are trying to see if they can get away with high rates. I've had all kinds of scenarios presented at TT, Oasis, Vivide, Goldrush, and Wax, but nothing at PP. I do get approached by a dancers when I sit at that back bar at PP, but they only offer table dances.
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Saturday I'll be back in Atlanta with time to hit some clubs. I used go follies, but I hear they've closed.
What are some of the best places to go?
From reading the forum, I think Vivide sound be on my list.
I'll be going in the afternoon. I can go as early as noon, but need to leave town around 7.
I'm interested in extras.
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[QUOTE=SomeGuy3;6485775]Saturday I'll be back in Atlanta with time to hit some clubs. I used go follies, but I hear they've closed.
What are some of the best places to go?
From reading the forum, I think Vivide sound be on my list.
I'll be going in the afternoon. I can go as early as noon, but need to leave town around 7.
I'm interested in extras.[/QUOTE]V is a sure thing. I think it's fairly dead until 2 pm. A lot of girls show up after 2 & 3 pm; so I'd say 3 pm is a good time. If you're new some of the Cubanas tried to hit me up and say VIP was 400+ for HH, but the going rate is 250 HH OTD. Diamonds has some offering but IMO V is better. TT has extras, but the base is something like 300 HH and they want you to tip for extras and tip the VIP hostess as well. Wax has extras but it's a bit rough and isn't good until 7 or 8 pm. Other than those 4, not sure where else you can get extras other than some of the AMPs on Piedmont.