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No hat is too risky. Not worth it. For some reason I though the west coast would have better options than Chicago. The west coast forum is quite dead that way.
[QUOTE=IdiotBoy;2348797]Not at a parlor but there are a few providers that have the actual nuru gel. It's basically just a sticky B2 B massage IMO & kinda risky as with the sliding around jr might slip in without a hat by mistake.[/QUOTE]
My experience with this place is that the massage quality is always good and has occasionally been great. I have not seen the tall skinny. Yes, always leave happy and have never had drama or anything. It seems dependable.
[QUOTE=SeanDoe99;2345438]Seems to have a fresh rotation every couple of weeks or so. Has been hit or miss lately with massage quality but handshake always par for the course. Few days ago saw a new girl. Tall skinny with padded bra hiding some disappointing a cups. But the massage was outstanding.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dazhiba;2347498]Where is this place? Is this code for Mattson / South of Chicago? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yes, he was talking about Crystal spa in Matteson. It is reviewed a lot in the south suburb thread. Girls are there about 4-6 weeks on average.
I second this opinion about Dallas. I was out there a few years ago and had a great time at one of the spas on the "strip". Went into a spa, picked a younger thai girl from the line up, and we were off to the races. No rushing or bad attitudes.
Good times!
[QUOTE=OFCharlie;2348738]
Dallas is another AMP heaven. The girls come into the room scantly dressed. There is no pretense why you are there. The best part is there is no negotiations. The market rate is $. 4 for half hour and $$ for an hour, all in. Also, there is a street there that has about 7-8 spas on the same block. You can go in and ask for a line up. If you don't like what you see, just go next door. Two of those spas have Thai girls, if you have craving for Thai![/QUOTE]
Beginning of this week I want into Chicago to for business and afterwards decided to take a page out of Bob's book: Went for the AMP + Asn Apt double.
I was in Logan Sqr so drove up to Irving Park rd and walked into Beijing aroun 11 am. Jenny took me into the room. She is Chinese and and a solid 7 with nice legs. Did the half for 40 + 40 tip. She gave me a great massage, worked the stiff back muscles more like a deep tissue. Of the 30 mins, 20 min massage, 5 min tease, 5 min HE (there was no holding back). Nice conversation too. Massage 8, service 8.
Scheduled w / Pam's girl LuNa and grabbed lunch before I drove out to O'Hare. LuNa's pics are her but with a lot of make up. She is closer to 30 with incredible naturals, tiny baby pouch, and a great smile. Made her squirm and O twice and worked in every position for a while until achieved my second blat of the day. She massaged me for the rest of the time until it was 5 minutes over the hf. Her phone was going off the hook but she had no hurry to get me out of there.
Not a bad work day.
Werewolf.
[QUOTE=Werewolf0956;2351240]Beginning of this week I want into Chicago to for business and afterwards decided to take a page out of Bob's book: Went for the AMP + Asn Apt double.
I was in Logan Sqr so drove up to Irving Park rd and walked into Beijing aroun 11 am. Jenny took me into the room. She is Chinese and and a solid 7 with nice legs. Did the half for 40 + 40 tip. She gave me a great massage, worked the stiff back muscles more like a deep tissue. Of the 30 mins, 20 min massage, 5 min tease, 5 min HE (there was no holding back). Nice conversation too. Massage 8, service 8.
Scheduled w / Pam's girl LuNa and grabbed lunch before I drove out to O'Hare. LuNa's pics are her but with a lot of make up. She is closer to 30 with incredible naturals, tiny baby pouch, and a great smile. Made her squirm and O twice and worked in every position for a while until achieved my second blat of the day. She massaged me for the rest of the time until it was 5 minutes over the hf. Her phone was going off the hook but she had no hurry to get me out of there.
Not a bad work day.
Werewolf.[/QUOTE]Don't you just love when a plan comes together and goes the right way. Happy for you.
[QUOTE=Werewolf0956;2351240]Beginning of this week I want into Chicago to for business and afterwards decided to take a page out of Bob's book: Went for the AMP + Asn Apt double.
I was in Logan Sqr so drove up to Irving Park rd and walked into Beijing aroun 11 am. Jenny took me into the room. She is Chinese and and a solid 7 with nice legs. Did the half for 40 + 40 tip. She gave me a great massage, worked the stiff back muscles more like a deep tissue. Of the 30 mins, 20 min massage, 5 min tease, 5 min HE (there was no holding back). Nice conversation too. Massage 8, service 8.
Scheduled w / Pam's girl LuNa and grabbed lunch before I drove out to O'Hare. LuNa's pics are her but with a lot of make up. She is closer to 30 with incredible naturals, tiny baby pouch, and a great smile. Made her squirm and O twice and worked in every position for a while until achieved my second blat of the day. She massaged me for the rest of the time until it was 5 minutes over the hf. Her phone was going off the hook but she had no hurry to get me out of there.
Not a bad work day.
Werewolf.[/QUOTE]I have never scheduled with Pam's girls but I hear it is very difficult if you are not a regular. I am curious if this was your first time or have you used her service before? From what I read her girls are knock outs and seem to be the best value. Do I have a chance of getting through?
[QUOTE=E6671;2351438]I have never scheduled with Pam's girls but I hear it is very difficult if you are not a regular. I am curious if this was your first time or have you used her service before? From what I read her girls are knock outs and seem to be the best value. Do I have a chance of getting through?[/QUOTE]Pam is very cautious so you will probably need an in. Her girls always provide great service but I haven't seen them lately because they stopped using apartments and moved to motels, which would be ok with me except you know they don't have enough towels and sheets for the volume they see each day. One of the things I appreciated about apartments is many times they would have laundry going while you are there so it is a safe bet you aren't getting someone else's dirty towel. Just wondering if anyone else has thoughts on this.
[QUOTE=OFCharlie;2349931]Yes, he was talking about Crystal spa in Matteson. It is reviewed a lot in the south suburb thread. Girls are there about 4-6 weeks on average.[/QUOTE]Yes, was trying not to be too obvious, lest LE be scanning. Should I not be so concerned?
[QUOTE=BlueUc;2348767]About draping I just lay on top of the table with nothing and is usually left that way. Sometimes they get a hot towel and lay it on your back to loosen up the muscles, then up leaving it on you somewhere for awhile.
Tableshowers, I agree its nice sometimes but I really am not much of a fan. As you mentioned Bob, when you think about it probably isn't cleaned too well. Lately being winter they ask if I want one and I reply, no thanks. Its too cold and they laugh and say ok. I agree it eats up your time there and a lot of times you are not there the full hour anyways. I would prefer a standup shower over the table if it was an option, even just standing in the tableshower room would work.[/QUOTE]Thanks to you and Bob for your replies. I usually do lay there with nothing on (per Bobs advice of leaving all modesty to the provider) but they put the drape on when they come in. Odd.
As far as TS, I liked it because, being newer to this, it gave me more of an opportunity to chat them up and look for the right signs. I hadn't considered the hygiene angle, odd because I'm a bit of a germophobe. I guess my mind was on "other things" at those moments but yeah, I will pass most often from now on.
Don't be afraid to share information. Most of the ladies you will meet would step over you if you were lying dead in the street. Its a business transaction and that's all. I've learned this the hard way.
[QUOTE=IlDiavolo;2352196]Yes, was trying not to be too obvious, lest LE be scanning. Should I not be so concerned?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IlDiavolo;2352203]Thanks to you and Bob for your replies. I usually do lay there with nothing on (per Bobs advice of leaving all modesty to the provider) but they put the drape on when they come in. Odd.
As far as TS, I liked it because, being newer to this, it gave me more of an opportunity to chat them up and look for the right signs. I hadn't considered the hygiene angle, odd because I'm a bit of a germophobe. I guess my mind was on "other things" at those moments but yeah, I will pass most often from now on.[/QUOTE]I've yet to experience a TS without the MT washing down the whole area with warm / hot water. I can't imagine them being any more willing than you to expose themselves to an unsanitary environment. Pick your places with a serious eye to hygiene.
[QUOTE=Vern2020;2341459]Yes, I have been there. Standard fare is at least available. When I dropped in for the heck of it when I was in the neighborhood, I saw one of my long time regular providers who had begun working here, so I experienced more than standard fare. YMMV.[/QUOTE]Yea this is a good place but not much privacy. You should be able to get HE but not anything else.
Good massage also.
[QUOTE=ReadyForRub;2352677]I've yet to experience a TS without the MT washing down the whole area with warm / hot water. I can't imagine them being any more willing than you to expose themselves to an unsanitary environment. Pick your places with a serious eye to hygiene.[/QUOTE]I have always seen that take place as well, the quick hose down before laying on the mat, but that's not really saying that its sanitary. Don't get me wrong I have done the TS but I tend to not dwell on that fact. Just like the towels and / or linens that are on the tables. They are the same ones used all day. I've witnessed them straighten up the towel near the head of the table for the next person coming in. You just manage to work around all that stuff.
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2352340]Don't be afraid to share information. Most of the ladies you will meet would step over you if you were lying dead in the street. Its a business transaction and that's all. I've learned this the hard way.[/QUOTE]I figure you are 100% right, and although I was trying to protect the provider (s) on some level, it's more about protecting our good, hard found spots so LE doesn't ruin it for everyone.
I just want to say that I always try to give enough info so that people know what and where I am talking about. When it comes to trade I understand if you have a number or special arrangement that is worth trading but if you are going to post about a spa and then want to trade for a location then forget it.
I remembers about 10 years ago I hit AMP heaven when I looked up and seen 3 AMPs right next to each other door by door by door. Oh mamma I still remember a sweet 21 yr old named Yumi.
[QUOTE=OFCharlie;2348738]I had it a couple of times in Dallas at a spa called Red Rose. They call it b2 be (body to body) down there. The girls there also do tongue lashing (girls lick your whole body and in most cases including ass rimming). You can read more in the Dallas forum.
Dallas is another AMP heaven. The girls come into the room scantly dressed. There is no pretense why you are there. The best part is there is no negotiations. The market rate is $. 4 for half hour and $$ for an hour, all in. Also, there is a street there that has about 7-8 spas on the same block. You can go in and ask for a line up. If you don't like what you see, just go next door. Two of those spas have Thai girls, if you have craving for Thai![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlueUc;2354357]I have always seen that take place as well, the quick hose down before laying on the mat, but that's not really saying that its sanitary. Don't get me wrong I have done the TS but I tend to not dwell on that fact. Just like the towels and / or linens that are on the tables. They are the same ones used all day. I've witnessed them straighten up the towel near the head of the table for the next person coming in. You just manage to work around all that stuff.[/QUOTE]The quick hose-down is not enough to keep it sanitary. Over the years (and by years I mean 25+) I twice got a bad skin rash over (what would you guess?) my chest and underarms. It took a while to get rid of them, but ever since I have avoided the TS. Which is really too bad because I love the sensation of the warm water and the gentle rubbing by an attractive oriental lady with some nice teasing.
-Vazooli.
[QUOTE=TBone83;2351451]Pam is very cautious so you will probably need an in. Her girls always provide great service but I haven't seen them lately because they stopped using apartments and moved to motels, which would be ok with me except you know they don't have enough towels and sheets for the volume they see each day. One of the things I appreciated about apartments is many times they would have laundry going while you are there so it is a safe bet you aren't getting someone else's dirty towel. Just wondering if anyone else has thoughts on this.[/QUOTE]Pity about needing an in with Pam. I got lucky Sunday night and won two quarters in our office SB squares and I was going to treat myself. I was thinking about trying the new one that has been advertising near Bronsville but I have only seen newbies post about it. With all of the Stings going on recently I am leery of taking the chance. I don't mind TOFT and taking a chance of a sub par experience but I just don't have the experience to make sure Uncle LEO won't be home when I visit. My only Non-AMP experience has been in Vegas and overseas.
[QUOTE=PuraVida;2345260]Had a chance to visit recently. Door fee of. 5 got me an OK massage and the older therapist (5 scale) took it upon herself to make me happy with no negotiations. I left the standard tip and she was happy. May repeat as my ATF is quite busy these days.[/QUOTE]You got lucky! Was there today, older lady cindy skinny asian takes me in. Good massage. On flip. She massages legs and ask me to self serve. Said no. You do it. Said she doesn't do it. Didn't haggle just asked her to wipe me and got dressed. As I was about to leave, she asks for tip saying she take care of me and massage me I said: " ha no change! Sorry" LOL.
[QUOTE=DundzPoker;2355176]You got lucky! Was there today, older lady cindy skinny asian takes me in. Good massage. On flip. She massages legs and ask me to self serve. Said no. You do it. Said she doesn't do it. Didn't haggle just asked her to wipe me and got dressed. As I was about to leave, she asks for tip saying she take care of me and massage me I said: " ha no change! Sorry" LOL.[/QUOTE]So she gives you a good massage and just because she doesn't want to give extras, no tip? Wow.
[QUOTE=WhiteSoxTom;2355356]So she gives you a good massage and just because she doesn't want to give extras, no tip? Wow.[/QUOTE]I had 20's and 100 and my pocket want me to give her 20 for that? I paid door fee, she did what I was there for, that's why they haggle cause of people loosely giving tips for service they should be doing anyway which is a good massage. If I had 5 or 10 I would have given. But to be haggled for tip on service she was paid to do? Then no.
[QUOTE=DundzPoker;2355567]I had 20's and 100 and my pocket want me to give her 20 for that? I paid door fee, she did what I was there for, that's why they haggle cause of people loosely giving tips for service they should be doing anyway which is a good massage. If I had 5 or 10 I would have given. But to be haggled for tip on service she was paid to do? Then no.[/QUOTE]I give 20 for just the massage?
How about everyone else?
I see a massage as a service thus you should tip.
[QUOTE=DundzPoker;2355567]I had 20's and 100 and my pocket want me to give her 20 for that? I paid door fee, she did what I was there for, that's why they haggle cause of people loosely giving tips for service they should be doing anyway which is a good massage. If I had 5 or 10 I would have given. But to be haggled for tip on service she was paid to do? Then no.[/QUOTE]That is a 50 doller massage with a table shower. Wow is right. I guess you aren't a tipper.
[QUOTE=OFCharlie;2348738]I had it a couple of times in Dallas at a spa called Red Rose. They call it b2 be (body to body) down there. The girls there also do tongue lashing (girls lick your whole body and in most cases including ass rimming). You can read more in the Dallas forum.
Dallas is another AMP heaven. The girls come into the room scantly dressed. There is no pretense why you are there. The best part is there is no negotiations. The market rate is $. 4 for half hour and $$ for an hour, all in. Also, there is a street there that has about 7-8 spas on the same block. You can go in and ask for a line up. If you don't like what you see, just go next door. Two of those spas have Thai girls, if you have craving for Thai![/QUOTE]I need to visit Dallas for personal reasons so I just booked flights. Round trip from Midway - $92.10. Yep, ninety two dollars!! If any players are considering a trip down there now is the time to book, sale ends soon. Hopefully I'll find some time to visit the AMP's.
[QUOTE=DundzPoker;2355567]I had 20's and 100 and my pocket want me to give her 20 for that? I paid door fee, she did what I was there for, that's why they haggle cause of people loosely giving tips for service they should be doing anyway which is a good massage. If I had 5 or 10 I would have given. But to be haggled for tip on service she was paid to do? Then no.[/QUOTE]I guess It is hard to put ourselves into your shoes. But really, a $20 tip for an hour-long (quality) legit massage is perfectly reasonable. I tip $25 to my weekly legit massage regular (five years now). But, that said, if they led you on and made you think you were getting extras. Then yeah, the non-tip sends a message.
Also, keep in mind that (depending on the spa), they get a flat amount for the massage, (maybe $20) or a percentage of the door, or in some cases they only get the tip. So every time they don't get a tip, maybe next time they will start negotiating halfway through the massage. You reap what you sow.
I'll make another suggestion: A couple times I have had MTs say self service. I say ok, but can you help me? A month ago, this happened and I had her massage balls during. She was afraid I was LEO. After my "gesture" convinced her she BBBJ me. Week after it was FS. So, who knows, maybe you gave off a LEO vibe and the self service was her way to have you prove you were not.
The final thing is I always bring exact change for multiple scenarios. For precisely the reason you cite. You need flexibility to tip higher or lower depending on what angel or devil ends up doing the massage. Bob.
Spa is in the basement of the building below a dentist office. The rooms have doors not just a curtain which I appreciated but the shower was just that, not a table shower. Massage was poor. In fact the back walk was actually painful and I told her to stop. Decent tease before the flip and afterwards their was no drama. Choose a nude HJ and got a body slide as a bonus. Will repeat.
[QUOTE=Mannheim;2268955]Place is a waste of time and money. Self service only.[/QUOTE]Jessica is closing up shop soon. She is offering 60 for Hour and 40 for 30. NO TIPPING and it's DIY. So if your on a budget and don't want to spend 120 for a 5 min handshake from somewhere else. I would give her a try. Great massage too. I have no complaints.
[QUOTE=Msmith0052;2348786]Fellow mangers: I will be in Chicago for work soon and wondered if someone could direct me to a good Korean or Thai massage parlor. I really don't like Chinese places as I prefer table shower and a broader menu. Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]I had just visited ivy massage on Main and Roosevelt in lombard. Strong massage with fun older ladies. 80+40 with Russian finish.
I visited. I got a very good massage from a white girl. I think she was American or had been here a long time-- her accent was a little odd, and she dressed a bit euro, but her conversation made me think she grew up here mostly. But she was strong and gave a good massage. But no happiness at the end, I did not push the issue though I was not modest in any way. It could be that it was my first visit, or that there were a couple of cops parked across the street (just eating). I might try again, I couldn't really complain about the value for the massage (not only was it good but she went overtime by a fair amount).
[QUOTE=Lowkeyx;2320015]I have only been to the first location and I said I would not go back. Eventually went for a second time and it was still bad. All I got was an asian cmt and a bad massage. I saw some younger hispanic talent there but was never able to get one. PM me for more details but this only applies for the first location on ashland.[/QUOTE]
I've been to the second location a few times. Twice with asian / Chinese and twice with euro.
Good massage but nothing more. TS available.
[QUOTE=AceBox;2357183]I visited. I got a very good massage from a white girl. I think she was American or had been here a long time-- her accent was a little odd, and she dressed a bit euro, but her conversation made me think she grew up here mostly. But she was strong and gave a good massage. But no happiness at the end, I did not push the issue though I was not modest in any way. It could be that it was my first visit, or that there were a couple of cops parked across the street (just eating). I might try again, I couldn't really complain about the value for the massage (not only was it good but she went overtime by a fair amount).[/QUOTE]
This Was Baddd! Would've been Better off with Foot massage.
Haven't been to a provider that I left being pissed off as I was yesterday. This is a storefront place I've been to maybe 5-7 times before when they had different staff and probably different management. They've changed the name as well. They have done significant remodeling in the place but service was very lacking. $50 is not bad for an hour, but I left thinking that I would have been better off with the Foot massage. At least I would have been touched. Room was Cold, and "Evie" did more than 80% of massage through a towel and mostly neck. Back shoulders and arms. Have gotten the same with foot massage elsewhere.
[URL]http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/thp/4879217115.htm[/URL]
Lina at Zen is my ATF. But I read reports on another site about new talent there, Jennifer and Nina. Are they as good as she is?
[QUOTE=Lokkin4;2356939]Jessica is closing up shop soon. She is offering 60 for Hour and 40 for 30. NO TIPPING and it's DIY. So if your on a budget and don't want to spend 120 for a 5 min handshake from somewhere else. I would give her a try. Great massage too. I have no complaints.[/QUOTE]Jessica is my only go to place for the last 5-6 months. Sadly she is planning on closing up bcs of her home situation (kids, etc) and not enough average business.
She is a sweetheart imo (and she will HE for average tip size Just tell her Franky said its ok.)
She also might possibly start working at another place 2 days a week only which I will most likely follow her if not far away from me.
I tried promoting her when I discovered her and many from here visited but not enough kept going but a few but her main issue is her home situation
So I've heard great things about Dallas and Philly. Especially over what we have here, but was wondering if anyone info on San Diego? Trying to decide if I should refrain a bit here to have more fun there?
[QUOTE=ChockWow;2359614]So I've heard great things about Dallas and Philly. Especially over what we have here, but was wondering if anyone info on San Diego? Trying to decide if I should refrain a bit here to have more fun there?[/QUOTE]You should read the local forum (of course). My business is based here and SD, so I do get out there often. Several good places in Poway. Another I tried in Temecula. Check out the town of Escondido it is crawling with places. Also, I looked at Rub maps and saw Hana Spa had 161 reviews and an average rating of 4. 5 out of 5. That says a lot. Go quickly as they are shutting down Feb 15th. Finally, if you want to remove all doubt, go to the Zona in Tijuana. Honk Kong, Adelitas, Chicago are some bars (as I recall) that are supposedly strip clubs crawling with Working Chicas. You pick one and rent a room for $10. To be clear, I have not been to Tijuana, but it sure is tempting. There is a fair amount of crime and police corruption (I hear). So, basically, there are quite a few ways to get into a SHITSTORM of trouble in a foreign country.
So having said all of that, any number of guys on this board, myself included, will tell you that any guy, with practice, can be just as successful in Chicago as any other city. Read the forum. Check out the threads that have frequent and recent posts. That means the area is active. Stick to retail AMPs, EMPs, or Strip clubs and read the reviews. Unless you are local do not use CL or BP, too tricky and too many scams or stings. (Although, to be honest, I simply don't have the experience or knowledge to sift through those sources. Other guys on the board could provide much better advice about BP & CL than I could.) Or you can stay close by Chicago. Try going to a few Detroit strip clubs. Night and day compared to Chicago. Some of the craziest FS strip clubs in the US. Great places in Tampa. It is more about style and attitude. You can catch fish in any lake, assuming there is a decent worm on your hook! Bob.
[QUOTE=Bob521;2360543]You should read the local forum (of course). My business is based here and SD, so I do get out there often. Several good places in Poway. Another I tried in Temecula. Check out the town of Escondido it is crawling with places. Also, I looked at Rub maps and saw Hana Spa had 161 reviews and an average rating of 4. 5 out of 5. That says a lot. Go quickly as they are shutting down Feb 15th. Finally, if you want to remove all doubt, go to the Zona in Tijuana. Honk Kong, Adelitas, Chicago are some bars (as I recall) that are supposedly strip clubs crawling with Working Chicas. You pick one and rent a room for $10. To be clear, I have not been to Tijuana, but it sure is tempting. There is a fair amount of crime and police corruption (I hear). So, basically, there are quite a few ways to get into a SHITSTORM of trouble in a foreign country.
So having said all of that, any number of guys on this board, myself included, will tell you that any guy, with practice, can be just as successful in Chicago as any other city. Read the forum. Check out the threads that have frequent and recent posts. That means the area is active. Stick to retail AMPs, EMPs, or Strip clubs and read the reviews. Unless you are local do not use CL or BP, too tricky and too many scams or stings. (Although, to be honest, I simply don't have the experience or knowledge to sift through those sources. Other guys on the board could provide much better advice about BP & CL than I could.) Or you can stay close by Chicago. Try going to a few Detroit strip clubs. Night and day compared to Chicago. Some of the craziest FS strip clubs in the US. Great places in Tampa. It is more about style and attitude. You can catch fish in any lake, assuming there is a decent worm on your hook! Bob.[/QUOTE]Thanks Bob! I'm based in the southern burbs so I am more active there. I think I have thoughts that grass is greener on the other side, but don't really know how the scene in see ali compares to here. Definitely have read through their threads And will partake!
[QUOTE=Bob521;2360543]You should read the local forum (of course). My business is based here and SD, so I do get out there often. Several good places in Poway. Another I tried in Temecula. Check out the town of Escondido it is crawling with places. Also, I looked at Rub maps and saw Hana Spa had 161 reviews and an average rating of 4. 5 out of 5. That says a lot. Go quickly as they are shutting down Feb 15th. Finally, if you want to remove all doubt, go to the Zona in Tijuana. Honk Kong, Adelitas, Chicago are some bars (as I recall) that are supposedly strip clubs crawling with Working Chicas. You pick one and rent a room for $10. To be clear, I have not been to Tijuana, but it sure is tempting. There is a fair amount of crime and police corruption (I hear). So, basically, there are quite a few ways to get into a SHITSTORM of trouble in a foreign country.
So having said all of that, any number of guys on this board, myself included, will tell you that any guy, with practice, can be just as successful in Chicago as any other city. Read the forum. Check out the threads that have frequent and recent posts. That means the area is active. Stick to retail AMPs, EMPs, or Strip clubs and read the reviews. Unless you are local do not use CL or BP, too tricky and too many scams or stings. (Although, to be honest, I simply don't have the experience or knowledge to sift through those sources. Other guys on the board could provide much better advice about BP & CL than I could.) Or you can stay close by Chicago. Try going to a few Detroit strip clubs. Night and day compared to Chicago. Some of the craziest FS strip clubs in the US. Great places in Tampa. It is more about style and attitude. You can catch fish in any lake, assuming there is a decent worm on your hook! Bob.[/QUOTE]Just got back from Orange County. Lots of great places every two blocks in some areas.
[QUOTE=ChockWow;2360585]Thanks Bob! I'm based in the southern burbs so I am more active there. I think I have thoughts that grass is greener on the other side, but don't really know how the scene in see ali compares to here. Definitely have read through their threads And will partake![/QUOTE]
I am under the vague impression that the Southern burbs are less active. But I have no evidence of that. For what its worth, most guys will tell you to use multiple resources. Twist Map looks cool, but the data is a little stale. USASG is great for detail but harder to organize a specific search. MP Reviews is extremely organized. Use the tip paid as your guide to what was offered. Nobody tips $100 for HE. If you post regularly you can get free access. Rub Maps is comprehensive and easy to use. But you can't get much current information for free. Take Hana in SD. RM quickly highlights 161 reviews and a 4.5 rating. It also said the door fee was $100. You can't see the details without subscribing. However You can search the USASG forum using Hana as the search term to get the story line of visits. Then Google the phone number. Always.
I would agree that there is more action in the city than in the Southern 'burbs.
[QUOTE=Bob521;2360693]I am under the vague impression that the Southern burbs are less active. But I have no evidence of that. For what its worth, most guys will tell you to use multiple resources. Twist Map looks cool, but the data is a little stale. USASG is great for detail but harder to organize a specific search. MP Reviews is extremely organized. Use the tip paid as your guide to what was offered. Nobody tips $100 for HE. If you post regularly you can get free access. Rub Maps is comprehensive and easy to use. But you can't get much current information for free. Take Hana in SD. RM quickly highlights 161 reviews and a 4.5 rating. It also said the door fee was $100. You can't see the details without subscribing. However You can search the USASG forum using Hana as the search term to get the story line of visits. Then Google the phone number. Always.[/QUOTE]