Went to the courthouse in Tysons. Paid for the hour and got a new girl Marie who looked 30 something. Standard NOVA finish, she did allow me to take the top off and roam there. The massage was good.
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Went to the courthouse in Tysons. Paid for the hour and got a new girl Marie who looked 30 something. Standard NOVA finish, she did allow me to take the top off and roam there. The massage was good.
What other business would you support if they gave bad service? If you give good, consistent service, you don't even have to try to get a following. First off, all their tips are tax free. You think they actually report tips or even pay taxes for that matter? Second, let's just say for turds and giggles you give a 40 tip for, let's be real, about five minutes of finish time. That a rate of 480 / hr. Even more if the customer tips higher. 500 a day is not at all unreal. And yes I know some days are slower, but on the other hand some days are better. It is not at all hard for good talent to make a great living, some better than ours. So, if the talent gives poor service (and that includes letting the Mamasan dictate ripping off of time) , why let their life benefit from it. I for one say Nay.
This is a scale that I have always gone by (a given that TS / Massage / Attitude / Time paid for was Good) :
.2 No finish (my choice)
.4 .5 Standard NOVA finish.
.5 .6 BJ
.6 .8 BBJ / BBJCIM.
.10 .12 FS.
Disrobe and Nursing should be standard on all xtras IMO.
This is my general scale. Sometimes tip a little more if service is SPECTACULAR.
Poor Service (this assumes TS / Massage / Attitude was just satisfactory) :
Paying for 1 hour / getting 30 minutes. Minimum: minus .2 to talent.
Fake BJ after said would do real. HJ tip.
Agree on BJ, but she does very briefly. I tell her she will get lower tip unless she does what agreed on (HJ tip)
Agrees on FS but dictating to finish. Finish. BBJ tip
Obvious not into it / painfully boring. Minus .1 .2
AND NEVER TIP UP FRONT. OR IF YOU DO AND GET RIPPED DON'T COMPLAIN.
These are general rules and just my opinion. Unfortunately, the only way we can speak out is to tip talent less. Not always fair, but I can't be faulted if talent won't stand up for herself and tell Mamasan to be more professional.
Lovejugs
As mentioned before, I've had good luck with apple orchards so I decided to try my luck at one in NOVA. First time doing an AMP in NOVA (and only second AMP ever). Called for an appointment, after I said I had never been before I was told to just walk in.
Walked in and was shown to a room, waited for about 15 and Rose came in. Late 40's, average looking, but very cold."Massage? $80." then I was lead into another room, and asked if I wanted a TS. I said yes, since I had never had one before. Let me just say that if all TS experiences are like mine was, I don't think anyone would bother rating them because everyone would know they were terrible. All business.
Massage was extremely good. Back walking, lots of attention to my shoulders, neck and arms. 7/10. Tried to talk to her a little, to warm her up, but was met with short, brief responses (along with a few condescending laughs). She was loudly chewing gum the entire time, too, which was annoying.
Flip, standard NOVA finish. Minimum wandering allowed. .8 to MMS. 4 to Rose. I might try the location again, but definitely not this talent. Feeling a bit burned out / gipped, may spring to try again after this experience fades.
First, thanks all for the great intel on this site.
River: saw BeBe, Korean, mid to late 30s, shortish hair, around 5'6" and average in looks. She would be more accurately named DD, very nice set, available for nursing. I went in on a Monday, mid-afternoon, about 4 weeks ago. She was very playful from the outset, which I like as it lightens the mood. Met me at the door and grabbed my ass and laughed as we walked back to the room. Same fun vibe at the TS, thorough cleaning, and a little banter. Got one of the better massages I've received. Not YoYo class, but still good. She took her time, worked on all areas from head to feet. Nice and hard. She knows what she's doing and doesn't take short-cuts. She likes to kid, told me I have big ass. I really enjoyed the flip as her top came off immediately and I nursed and played with her tits. She began a nice massage that segued into a good soft touch. Standard NOVA finish. I left feeling not only satisfied but happy. I enjoyed her company.
[QUOTE=Oppen; 1163984]First, thanks all for the great intel on this site.
River: saw BeBe, Korean, mid to late 30s, shortish hair, around 5'6" and average in looks. She would be more accurately named DD, very nice set, available for nursing. I went in on a Monday, mid-afternoon, about 4 weeks ago. She was very playful from the outset, which I like as it lightens the mood. Met me at the door and grabbed my ass and laughed as we walked back to the room. Same fun vibe at the TS, thorough cleaning, and a little banter. Got one of the better massages I've received. Not YoYo class, but still good. She took her time, worked on all areas from head to feet. Nice and hard. She knows what she's doing and doesn't take short-cuts. She likes to kid, told me I have big ass. I really enjoyed the flip as her top came off immediately and I nursed and played with her tits. She began a nice massage that segued into a good soft touch. Standard NOVA finish. I left feeling not only satisfied but happy. I enjoyed her company. [/QUOTE]Are you sure you don't mean Y#M* The only one I know there that is a natural DD.
Lovejugs
[QUOTE=Lovejugs; 1164119]Are you sure you don't mean Y#M* The only one I know there that is a natural DD.
Lovejugs[/QUOTE]I was thinking the same thing, based on one of your previous posts. I asked her twice just to see if I had it right, and she said BeBe. But I'm guessing you're right and I really saw Y#M*
[QUOTE=Computer Luvvv;1163299]Decided to try the place out since a friend of mine went last week and said his experience was unlike yours. The young lady I saw was from the old Aroma, we recongnized one another. All I can say is that I actually had a good time. TS Above avg, Massage avg to above (depending on what you like) , Standard NOVA with lots of postiontion changes. Different types of HE's on her part, little foot fetish on those nice feet, see-cups up stairs. Damn I forgot to ask what name she's using here, but I will let you know next time I go.[/QUOTE]Was her name Cherry?
I had some recent so-so to bad experiences that I was looking for a "new" place to visit. After reading some of the reports here, I decided to visit the castle, a place I drive by several times a week but never realized that it was there. The location was easy to find with plenty of parking which serves several businesses including the restaurant in same building. The doors are well marked so no worries about entering the wrong establlishment. A word of caution: after you climb the stairs and ring the bell, stand back as the door opens outward. MMS inadvertantly nearly sent me on a tumble that could have been serious. Rooms are spacious. I drew Candy / Kandy as my therapist today. She said that she had only been there a short time and was recently from NYC. Previous descriptions of her are accurate but I would say that she had a pretty face as well. TS was one of the best I've expereinced so far with hot water and a through cleaning. A well-maintained sauna after was a treat on a cold day. Back in the room, Candy offered a cold beverage which I declined. An excellent massage followed. She is quite strong and can adjust her technique to your desires. I got the full hour plus I think a little over. Very nice personality. MMS greeted me on the way out. I left quite satisfied and plan to return soon.
[QUOTE=Mustang946;1164327]I had some recent so-so to bad experiences that I was looking for a "new" place to visit. After reading some of the reports here, I decided to visit the castle, a place I drive by several times a week but never realized that it was there. The location was easy to find with plenty of parking which serves several businesses including the restaurant in same building. The doors are well marked so no worries about entering the wrong establlishment. A word of caution: after you climb the stairs and ring the bell, stand back as the door opens outward. MMS inadvertantly nearly sent me on a tumble that could have been serious. Rooms are spacious. I drew Candy / Kandy as my therapist today. She said that she had only been there a short time and was recently from NYC. Previous descriptions of her are accurate but I would say that she had a pretty face as well. TS was one of the best I've expereinced so far with hot water and a through cleaning. A well-maintained sauna after was a treat on a cold day. Back in the room, Candy offered a cold beverage which I declined. An excellent massage followed. She is quite strong and can adjust her technique to your desires. I got the full hour plus I think a little over. Very nice personality. MMS greeted me on the way out. I left quite satisfied and plan to return soon.[/QUOTE]Great review. I might have to try it out. Anyway. Went to Best but Ana is gone. And the place is shitty again. I did see a decent korean there last time I went but she was not there at this time. When I went now, it was just two older koreans one with a really bad makeup. Fake drawn in eyebrows. Service was bad, I will have to wait for Ana.
Exactly as I said; was she worth anything extra? Force the issue by not accepting but advising the MMS you are will to "tip" but you need to feel like an HONOR guest / customer.
[QUOTE=Fatpig;1164453]Great review. I might have to try it out. Anyway. Went to Best but Ana is gone. And the place is shitty again. I did see a decent korean there last time I went but she was not there at this time. When I went now, it was just two older koreans one with a really bad makeup. Fake drawn in eyebrows. Service was bad, I will have to wait for Ana.[/QUOTE]
That is what I try to maintain, throwing extra if see meets what my dog like (looks) and less if she is really bad. I feel you have given good basis / start off points from there the woman earns or loses based on attitude.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Lovejugs; 1163803]What other business would you support if they gave bad service? If you give good, consistent service, you don't even have to try to get a following. First off, all their tips are tax free. You think they actually report tips or even pay taxes for that matter? Second, let's just say for turds and giggles you give a 40 tip for, let's be real, about five minutes of finish time. That a rate of 480 / hr. Even more if the customer tips higher. 500 a day is not at all unreal. And yes I know some days are slower, but on the other hand some days are better. It is not at all hard for good talent to make a great living, some better than ours. So, if the talent gives poor service (and that includes letting the Mamasan dictate ripping off of time) , why let their life benefit from it. I for one say Nay.
This is a scale that I have always gone by (a given that TS / Massage / Attitude / Time paid for was Good) :
2 No finish (my choice)
4. 5 Standard NOVA finish.
5. 6 BJ.
6. 8 BBJ / BBJCIM.
10. 12 FS.
Disrobe and Nursing should be standard on all xtras IMO.
This is my general scale. Sometimes tip a little more if service is SPECTACULAR.
Poor Service (this assumes TS / Massage / Attitude was just satisfactory) :
Paying for 1 hour / getting 30 minutes. Minimum: minus. 2 to talent.
Fake BJ after said would do real. HJ tip.
Agree on BJ, but she does very briefly. I tell her she will get lower tip unless she does what agreed on (HJ tip)
Agrees on FS but dictating to finish. Finish. BBJ tip
Obvious not into it / painfully boring. Minus. 1.2.
AND NEVER TIP UP FRONT. OR IF YOU DO AND GET RIPPED DON'T COMPLAIN.
These are general rules and just my opinion. Unfortunately, the only way we can speak out is to tip talent less. Not always fair, but I can't be faulted if talent won't stand up for herself and tell Mamasan to be more professional.
Lovejugs[/QUOTE]
Yes but if they know we will not return and even walk out if we are not satisfied with the offerings, they will have to work for us.
In 2002 before coming to VA, I frequented a few in Queens and in one if I asked the MMS would provide. If I came in and I did not like the girl and another was busy she would let me wait and have tea with her (not the usual waiting area) until the next girl was free.
On visit, I went for my then newest "regular" but she had moved one. She was good for a BBJ and covered after. I told the MMS if she new the others were like that. I guess there was a mix up in communication because she came to me with a FRESH youthful (about 22) who not only BBJ'd but when she mounted, to my surpised Cowboyed BB. I was not looking for it but it was provided; again, I think that was a miscommunication between the girl and the MMS.
All I am trying to convey is business priciples, supply us with good and our demand will go up!
Anyone been with the. ORG, Sky, recently? Wondering if any of them are true and true GFE as well.
[QUOTE=Bostonpeter; 1163304]The MMS doesn't care what we tip, only that we pay for the house fee up front. The MMS and girls that work there have different perspectives.
The economic situation is that if the girls don't make money in NOVA they just leave for greener pastures. At least the young and pretty ones that give good service, and are able to make money, leaving us with a older ladies that have worse service remaining.
The reality is that most ladies in this business aren't really tied down to a specific area. If business is better in NY, Jersey, Georgia, or LA; they'll go there. Word gets around between girls how much money there is to be made in different areas. Its a risk / benefit equation where they decide to work. The good girls always have the upper hand over the MMS.
But I really didn't want to start a conversation about tipping. And in earnest it was originally me who was blaming the girl for poor performance relative to tipping. And again, tipping based on overall performance is important, bad service should equal a tip that is representative of that.
But at the same time, tipping the girl poorly is not a great way for you to get your point across to the MMS. It just means girls will got elsewhere. If it means that 'grandma' with poor service leave, I have no problem with that, but hopefully people are tipping properly when service is actually good (regardless if its a nova finish or not) [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Computer Luvvv;1151264]Hit this place today, scored CoCo, she asked me who I had seen before, I gave her the names, all of the names I gave her are GONE (she told me, the menu that they served is no longer and option) , so for the previous reviews I gave, its null and void now. She (coco) is a hot little number, showed me her hair lazer removal on her leggs and private areas, but as I mentioned, the menu is Standard NOVA. She's a cutie, late 20s, cute face, nice leggs. Cute feet. Sorry fellas, I guess mama heard me doing bizzness and fired those other girls, ooops.[/QUOTE]Visited Booja a few weeks back and I drew CoCo. She fits the description mentioned earlier, down to the laser hair removal boo-boo she even had. TS was very nice and I felt squeaky clean afterwards. Sauna was Out of Order, so we went right to the massage. Very good firm massage and roaming was allowed. Nice healthy rack and standard NOVA finish. Clean facility and friendly staff and easy to find. Ample parking and discreet enough. I would repeat.
Many times I do the hobby, but first time post. I got stuck in traffic last Saturday on that dreaded 66 highway. Got off at the next exit and headed to Vienna. There was a place where you had to ascend a couple flights of stairs. Saw it on BP and no reports so I TOFTT. Knocked on the door, and one of the cutest providers answered. Stayed in orbit for an hour. GREAT massage. The happy ending was a blast. Though I got to play with the thrusters I could not taste them. As I was dressing, she showed me her smooth ass. I think there would be more if I returned.
Went to Sun Star last weekend. Mediocre performance, standard rates. Can do much better elsewhere.