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It's good to have some references from other customers, but you can't beat personal 1 to 1 info. Girls can be random as to what they will decide they are worth to a given guy on a given night. You can catch someone in the right mood at the right time. If you know what the bottom and top ends of the scale are and know who the hotter most popular girls are, you can pretty much figure out what might work for them. Just keep putting it out there and maintain your own game and until you hit a number you are comfortable with.
[QUOTE=PelicanT99;6622062]Read the forum; there's plenty of reports about her & GPS. Many were in response to your four prior posts asking about her LOL. I don't understand why you're always asking questions here when you can just ask the girls for yourself. Get up on the tip rail, flash a $10, draw the girl down & ask your questions or ask to talk. It's pretty simple. Asking questions here just isn't going to get what you want when you don't offer up info from your own experiences. So good luck & let us know what you find out.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=PelicanT99;6622062]Read the forum; there's plenty of reports about her & GPS. Many were in response to your four prior posts asking about her LOL. I don't understand why you're always asking questions here when you can just ask the girls for yourself. Get up on the tip rail, flash a $10, draw the girl down & ask your questions or ask to talk. It's pretty simple. Asking questions here just isn't going to get what you want when you don't offer up info from your own experiences. So good luck & let us know what you find out.[/QUOTE]To Mr. FruitCake's credit, while he has asked multiple times, no one has given a concrete answer. All other girls' prices have been posted, not hers. Which is a bit abnormal.
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[QUOTE=SuperFreakOMG3;6622853]To Mr. FruitCake's credit, while he has asked multiple times, no one has given a concrete answer. All other girls' prices have been posted, not hers. Which is a bit abnormal.[/QUOTE]I think that's more to the other forum members' credit, but whatever LOL. Actually there's one post of her ask at like $800 or something absurd, and another suggesting she's no extra (altho as just noted, that's usually situational). Just get her attention with money and ask, because (let's all say it together) "Your Pricing Will Vary, Always."
Re: your other post, I like reading those two guys' reports too, even tho I find them a bit Shakespearean love sonnet sometimes. Jeep certainly knows what he's doing; the San Diego dude tho seems to me a little fixated on relationships with sex workers as opposed to closing the desk, which is fine in LM SD clubs but sorta pointless in brothel COI clubs, IMO. But he does post intel not just questions, so there's that haha.
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Prices
FYI. Have reported on her prices before.
[QUOTE=SuperFreakOMG3;6622853]To Mr. FruitCake's credit, while he has asked multiple times, no one has given a concrete answer. All other girls' prices have been posted, not hers. Which is a bit abnormal.[/QUOTE]
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The misinformation here is unbearable.
$800 is her OTC one hr rate. She also has hhr rate that is lower. She's a safety girl. She only does incalls and rents an upscale hotel for it. This is why her OTC is rate high.
Her ITC rate, as I mentioned before, is fair but I got in really early.
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Ditto!
As jeep5151 said, same rates I have been given but I've had same experience with her ITC since we VIP when she had barely started. She's selective and very safe OTC. Not just with anyone.
[QUOTE=Jeep5151;6623408]The misinformation here is unbearable.
$800 is her OTC one hr rate. She also has hhr rate that is lower. She's a safety girl. She only does incalls and rents an upscale hotel for it. This is why her OTC is rate high.
Her ITC rate, as I mentioned before, is fair but I got in really early.[/QUOTE]
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Jessica Synn
While patrons are reporting Bailey high ridiculous rates.
I just got head from Jessica for free along with her #.
It was ok. Saw no meat Kiki, Ashly, Khloe.
Gemma too seems like she wants dick.
Also Lorraine wants $200 pound town. Eating it def going to come back.
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Strippers Otc
[QUOTE=Jeep5151;6623408]The misinformation here is unbearable.
$800 is her OTC one hr rate. She also has hhr rate that is lower. She's a safety girl. She only does incalls and rents an upscale hotel for it. This is why her OTC is rate high.
Her ITC rate, as I mentioned before, is fair but I got in really early.[/QUOTE]Might just be me but OTC with a stripper fucking sucks they are never as hot as they are in the club. Take it Bailey for example smoking hot in the club but outside the club is just alright. Staying in the strip club keeps the fantasy.
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[QUOTE=BoyBig855;6623621]Might just be me but OTC with a stripper fucking sucks they are never as hot as they are in the club. Take it Bailey for example smoking hot in the club but outside the club is just alright. Staying in the strip club keeps the fantasy.[/QUOTE]I never thought of that but makes sense. At that point they look like a regular person in regular clothes that you are paying $$ , but I guess too if you really into that person than its coo.
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Otc
Yes, ITC is better than OTC. Most strippers out of the club are a whole new persona, good or bad. I have seen only one Out of the Club but I have declined offers from others to avoid getting too close and personal because Some of them don't know the limits once you are with them OTC and I just Don't like drama. You go back to the club and some then behave as if they own you LOL.
[QUOTE=BoyBig855;6623621]Might just be me but OTC with a stripper fucking sucks they are never as hot as they are in the club. Take it Bailey for example smoking hot in the club but outside the club is just alright. Staying in the strip club keeps the fantasy.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SuperFreakOMG3;6622853]To Mr. FruitCake's credit...no one has given a concrete answer. All other girls' prices have been posted, not hers.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jeep5151;6623408]She also has hhr rate that is lower...Her ITC rate, as I mentioned before, is fair but I got in really early.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CuziletYou72;6548150]... is great in VIP ma very fun experience at a very reasonable amount.[/QUOTE]You guys are just proving my point. Maybe I'm a bit slow but I don't know what "lower than full hour", "fair" "reasonable" means in 2023 American Dollar Currency, so please forgive me. Perhaps say the price in Prussian Francs and I'll convert it on Google to get an actual answer.
And just to clarify my own stance, I'm with Mr. Pelican and am also part of the "find out for yourself" crowd. I don't care what another man pays, and I don't think I've ever asked what a girl's prices are on this forum (correct me if my memory doesn't serve me.) I'm just making an observation and can empathize with Mr. FruitCake asking the same question 4 times. Although if it were me, I'd ask once or twice then move on with whatever answer or non-answer I get.
Not that any of us owe any of each other anything. Give out info, don't give out info, give out misinfo. Up to you, who gives a hoot. I just find it amusing and a little fascinating you guys are so cryptic with her prices. Just spit it out.
Edit. Be like Mr. KingMg. "Jessica. Head for $0 + her phone number. Skills were meh."
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OTC vs ITC
I prefer OTC, but yes there are OTC risks such as different personas, getting too close (you or the dancer), dancer showing up as plain Jane, inflated tip requests, losing the fantasy, issues back at the club. If you prefer a quick, aggressive interaction then inside the club is likely best.
Different personas: I see that occasionally, but it is usually an extension of your club experience. If you have just a vanilla ITC, even with extras, expect more of the same outside, which is probably not worth it. If the VIP was intense, crazy, over the top (and the dancer was not obviously high), then outside should be great too, quite possibly even better.
Getting to close: On the part of the dancer, it's happened, but this is quite rare, at least for me. If the customer side gets stuck on one dancer, then that is a definite risk. It happened earlier on with me, not recommended. Keep it transactional, fun, and not exclusive, even if it involves dinners etc.
Plain Jane look or feel: That can happen, looks wise if the dancer is lazy, personality wise can happen too, particularly if that particular dancer is obviously "altered" at the club.
Inflated tip request: Using Synn COI as a benchmark, a full VIP is 180 + 100 (200) - 500 tip (380 to 680 total). Try to keep the OTC multiple on the ITC tip around 1. 5. 300 inside should translate to 400-500 outside, for a full hour at least. If you are thinking of OTC's over 700, please step back and check out Eros or Tryst Link. Very high end, stunningly gorgeous ladies there are 700 (often with no charge for incall), and generally are full girlfriend. Which once I got a taste of, became the basic minimum standard for me.
Losing the fantasy: It can happen, particularly if the dancer has limits inside the club. Those limits can become more obvious outside. It just happened to me recently, with a non COI dancer.
I've had many absolutely phenomenal outside experiences, some going for 2-3 hours with no extra charges, some with no limits whatsoever, period. Bad experiences too, just like at the club.
[QUOTE=CuziletYou72;6624262]Yes, ITC is better than OTC. Most strippers out of the club are a whole new persona, good or bad. I have seen only one Out of the Club but I have declined offers from others to avoid getting too close and personal because Some of them don't know the limits once you are with them OTC and I just Don't like drama. You go back to the club and some then behave as if they own you LOL.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BoyBig855;6623621]Might just be me but OTC with a stripper fucking sucks they are never as hot as they are in the club. Take it Bailey for example smoking hot in the club but outside the club is just alright. Staying in the strip club keeps the fantasy.[/QUOTE]A few pages back there was a discussion about this; that's why clubs are the way they are. Dark lighting as subterfuge for any imperfections of the face and body, bra-and-panty-only uniform, egregiously high heels to give them a demure walk and accentuate the tone in their calves, thighs and butt, loud music to keep your faces and bodies close to each other and fill in the awkward lulls in the convo. The dank smell of feet and fishy nether regions to keep our lizard brains aroused (just kidding.)
All that goes away in the real world.
Although some user said Roxxxy was a 5 outside the club. If she's a 5 then that user must be Leonardo DiCaprio. I wouldn't consider myself a Roxxxy regular or fan, but I can still appreciate a gorgeous face when I see one.
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ITC vs OTC
Interesting discussion, good insights.
IME, OTC is best when you find a real "goer" who actually enjoys her job. Then the time limit is loose, the freedom of movement available is a benefit, the pressure is off. But getting a hotel is a hassle, and all the "not the same girl" points are very true. Despite the time limits & fuck closet issues, ITC is an easy, dirty quick fix. Screw, then bolt. The girls are dressed & made up to sell it.
As to the "OTC markup", I try to just pay the same rate; but since I can get at least an hour and 2 pops that ends up being twice the price (for twice the return). If you 1. 5 x a GPS rate, that's heading to prime escort prices and 99% of strippers aren't up to that standard for looks & performance. Most of the girls I've OTC'ed have been my regulars and we agreed to cut out the middleman, so they're comfortable with me and it's side income so they're easy on my rate.
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[QUOTE=BoyBig855;6622264]I've been asking about Rosetta from Synn and where she has been. Seen on her ig stories she's pregnant but I guy significantly older. So I guess she's out the game. What's the chances she comes back to work a single mother and turns tricks again.[/QUOTE]Have faith because she might come back. A lot of them do. From my past experience, strippers that come back from hiatus are more affectionate.
I went back to Synn last year in hopes to reconnect with Sabrina but instead I found Bella. She was my go-to girl until the curtain for the Bella stage show finally closed. It was difficult for me to process then lo and behold, Sabrina came back. There's really no one to one replacement with people because they are good in different ways. But one thing I got right on both is that I always knew what I had with them. I always tried to see them and they were the only girls I saw when they were working. I used to tell Bella how she replaced Sabrina as the prettiest girl at Synn. Now I'm telling Sabrina the same story but in a different order. I still hope Bella will come back like the same way I hoped for Sabrina before returned. It's natural for men to want something they cannot get. So step up and get the strippers you want when they are still here before they are gone.