Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=BelowMe;5104120]It goes to the Supreme Court where Trump just put 3 conservative judges. If they rule that PA, GA, MI changed election laws against the constitution (without a vote) or that they prove fraud with mail in voting, programmed election machines that changed votes they can invalidate the election. At that point it goes to congress where one elector per state votes along party lines for the president, and the Senate picks THE VP. It helps that 30 states are republican majority while 19 are run by Dems. If it goes this far Trump will win and it would be the 3rd time in our history that this has happened.

So, it ain't over.[/QUOTE]Below You.

I really like your posts and reviews, Below. But you need a drug test after THAT post.

SMH. (And I'm a Republican).

[QUOTE=Dillsborodave;5104275]Tis better to be mentally handicapped and vote for Biden who has some common sense than be a person with common sense who voted for Trump who is most definitely mentally handicapped.[/QUOTE]Thanks Einstein I knew that would get your attention. Let me take the inventory of a typical Democrat. They are arrogant thinking they are better and smarter then everyone else with a my way or the highway attitude. The truth is they are just assholes like the rest of us.

You should change your name to Lloyd Christmas.

Trust me. It's over. The Supreme's aren't accepting any of these cases.

Edit: You didn't answer my question: Do you honestly think Trump will be President on Jan 21?

[QUOTE=BelowMe;5104120]It goes to the Supreme Court where Trump just put 3 conservative judges. If they rule that PA, GA, MI changed election laws against the constitution (without a vote) or that they prove fraud with mail in voting, programmed election machines that changed votes they can invalidate the election. At that point it goes to congress where one elector per state votes along party lines for the president, and the Senate picks THE VP. It helps that 30 states are republican majority while 19 are run by Dems. If it goes this far Trump will win and it would be the 3rd time in our history that this has happened.

So, it ain't over.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JimJaimes;5104371]Trumps is a piece of shit and his cult are too. Biden will keep funneling money to the military industrial complex instead of taking care of the needs of working Americans, that's what they do. At least decency and sanity will be restored on the world stage, but I think the shit stain trump left in America's whitey tighties ain't coming out. Even with bleach. People won't forget that we elect folks like GW Bush and trump on a regular basis and the sane leadership is probably a fluke rather than the norm. On our side they have idiots too. We are the fat loud selfish folks across the pond. I agree with them, just scroll through the comments anywhere. "We are the BEST!" Ummm, not really.[/QUOTE]Over the last four years I've chatted with a lot of people during travel overseas, and they all think, "you dipshit Americans elected a guy like that once, you'll do it again."

We aren't trustworthy anymore. Well, unless you're Israel and the evangelicals think you have special god status.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5104685]Over the last four years I've chatted with a lot of people during travel overseas, and they all think, "you dipshit Americans elected a guy like that once, you'll do it again."

We aren't trustworthy anymore. Well, unless you're Israel and the evangelicals think you have special god status.[/QUOTE]Well electing Biden is the dumbest of them all.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5104685]Over the last four years I've chatted with a lot of people during travel overseas, and they all think, "you dipshit Americans elected a guy like that once, you'll do it again."

We aren't trustworthy anymore. Well, unless you're Israel and the evangelicals think you have special god status.[/QUOTE]There are 6 billion people in this world. I doubt the few hundred people you have spoken too is enough to form a general consensus of world opinion. With that said I really don't care how other nations feel about our freedoms or lack there of, or quality of life.

[QUOTE=CincyHobbist;5104143]I pay about 30% of my check into SSI, FICA, MEDICAD or whatever they call it now! More then likely I will not get what is owed to me from SSI! I have to work to pay 1200 a month in health insurance for my family. Then pay all of the out of pocket stuff on top of it! I worked in Avondale for a few years in retail. I made some friends over the years there that were 3rd,4th and 5th generation on the public tit! All very capable of working, but all raised to take advantage of the system and programs! As I said all left / center / right folks think they have a say on the national level, when they barely have a say on a local level. Think about this, if you would. In Cincinnati 80% of the population rents their living space. Those 80% have a larger say in what a property owner pays in taxes. I don't have an issue helping those that really need a hand up and out of poverty or a bad situation at all. However, I do believe that if a person is able to do something with a useful skill, then a few years in the military would be a great way up and out of their issues. As I was taught, teach a man to fish is better then giving a man a fish daily![/QUOTE]"I don't have an issue helping those that really need a hand up and out of poverty or a bad situation at all. ", is nice little soundbite that doesn't mean squat. Your entire post is against that one phrase. Your disdain for social programs is oozing from every other sentence. You cloak yourself in self-righteousness, while trying to tamp down those already hurting. You're the Christian that puts up, "Love thy neighbor" posters, but have zero problems denying food, healthcare, and housing to those that can't afford it. You one to claim to love America, but hate Americans.

Your social security payments isn't going to other people. That's being deposited into what amounts to a savings account that you will withdraw when you reach that age when you start to draw social security. Same thing with FICA and Medicare. You put in the money now so you won't be a burden to other people when you're old and can no longer earn a living wage. It's insurance for when you can no longer pay that 1200 a month.

[QUOTE=Bullet454;5104847]There are 6 billion people in this world. I doubt the few hundred people you have spoken too is enough to form a general consensus of world opinion. With that said I really don't care how other nations feel about our freedoms or lack there of, or quality of life.[/QUOTE]You probably don't understand much about random sampling, foreign affairs or any of that shit. I doubt we travel in the same socio-economic, educational, or experiential circles either. There's a difference in chatting with people exposed to other cultures and hanging out with your redneck bubbas on your pontoon boat with a trump flag. So just keep on not caring about any of that shit, since it's unlikely you contribute much to the greater conversation anyway.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5105068]You probably don't understand much about random sampling, foreign affairs or any of that shit. I doubt we travel in the same socio-economic, educational, or experiential circles either. There's a difference in chatting with people exposed to other cultures and hanging out with your redneck bubbas on your pontoon boat with a trump flag. So just keep on not caring about any of that shit, since it's unlikely you contribute much to the greater conversation anyway.[/QUOTE]Perfectly stated, Rog.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5105068]You probably don't understand much about random sampling, foreign affairs or any of that shit. I doubt we travel in the same socio-economic, educational, or experiential circles either. There's a difference in chatting with people exposed to other cultures and hanging out with your redneck bubbas on your pontoon boat with a trump flag. So just keep on not caring about any of that shit, since it's unlikely you contribute much to the greater conversation anyway.[/QUOTE]You know nothing about me or my educational background, or who I associate with. Instead you try to insult me to further your point. I have been around all kinds of people rich, royalty, and dirt poor. I have been talking to my friend who lives in Portugal. I don't think they own a pontoon boat though. Tomorrow I will ask the Italians I work if they like trump. I also understand about random sampling that is why I questioned your "I talked to people" comments. I am sure we don't travel in the same circles, nor would I want to.

[QUOTE=Bullet454;5105157]You know nothing about me or my educational background, or who I associate with. Instead you try to insult me to further your point. I have been around all kinds of people rich, royalty, and dirt poor. I have been talking to my friend who lives in Portugal. I don't think they own a pontoon boat though. Tomorrow I will ask the Italians I work if they like trump. I also understand about random sampling that is why I questioned your "I talked to people" comments. I am sure we don't travel in the same circles, nor would I want to.[/QUOTE]Why is this here. To be clear though my CFO brother in law, many of my doctoral friends and others may hold differing opinions. Can we move this crap someplace other than where I go to escape this. By the way 3 degrees have worked since I was a kid without end am a member of a senior leadership organization at a top company and have traveled extensively around the world and have friends in around 30 countries. Mixed thoughts similar to here. Please don't try to bucket people. There are good on both sides and horrible in both. But don't for a second believe the top 1 or 10% are in your corner. Now can we get back to the important stuff like really a sting in Northern Ohio. Be safe all.

[QUOTE=DrPaulRx;5105223]Why is this here. To be clear though my CFO brother in law, many of my doctoral friends and others may hold differing opinions. Can we move this crap someplace other than where I go to escape this. By the way 3 degrees have worked since I was a kid without end am a member of a senior leadership organization at a top company and have traveled extensively around the world and have friends in around 30 countries. Mixed thoughts similar to here. Please don't try to bucket people. There are good on both sides and horrible in both. But don't for a second believe the top 1 or 10% are in your corner. Now can we get back to the important stuff like really a sting in Northern Ohio. Be safe all.[/QUOTE]Why put my post up? I merely pointed out to him how I didn't agree with his assumption. Then was told how I don't meet his standards of education or wealth. Then merely offered a retort to his insults. So why put my post up as an example of as you would say "crap".

[QUOTE=BelowMe;5104120]It goes to the Supreme Court where Trump just put 3 conservative judges. If they rule that PA, GA, MI changed election laws against the constitution (without a vote) or that they prove fraud with mail in voting, programmed election machines that changed votes they can invalidate the election. At that point it goes to congress where one elector per state votes along party lines for the president, and the Senate picks THE VP. It helps that 30 states are republican majority while 19 are run by Dems. If it goes this far Trump will win and it would be the 3rd time in our history that this has happened.

So, it ain't over.[/QUOTE]And the Supreme Court said, "No".

[URL]https://www.wlwt.com/article/supreme-court-rejects-gop-bid-to-halt-bidens-pennsylvania-win/34909056[/URL]

[QUOTE=Bullet454;5105320]Why put my post up? I merely pointed out to him how I didn't agree with his assumption. Then was told how I don't meet his standards of education or wealth. Then merely offered a retort to his insults. So why put my post up as an example of as you would say "crap".[/QUOTE]Was actually adding onto yours not calling yours out. If you read it I was saying what post this political diatribe on this site. I am 110% behind you on this and his assumptions are insulting and way off the mark mayne he considers mega yachts and million dollar boats pontoon boats. But those are much of what I saw with the flags. Sorry Bullet.

[QUOTE=DrPaulRx;5105409]Was actually adding onto yours not calling yours out. If you read it I was saying what post this political diatribe on this site. I am 110% behind you on this and his assumptions are insulting and way off the mark mayne he considers mega yachts and million dollar boats pontoon boats. But those are much of what I saw with the flags. Sorry Bullet.[/QUOTE]You're good I was just making sure LOL.

Two California megachurches rebrand as "strip clubs" to defy government lockdown orders.

[URL]https://disrn.com/news/two-california-megachurches-rebrand-as-strip-clubs-to-defy-government-lockdown-orders?fbclid=IwAR05HLfuDTqzryTiveMnEofluFlP__thSC-bNUf3OLgc_4X6mJk_bfvdv7M[/URL]

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;5105589]Two California megachurches rebrand as "strip clubs" to defy government lockdown orders.

[URL]https://disrn.com/news/two-california-megachurches-rebrand-as-strip-clubs-to-defy-government-lockdown-orders?fbclid=IwAR05HLfuDTqzryTiveMnEofluFlP__thSC-bNUf3OLgc_4X6mJk_bfvdv7M[/URL][/QUOTE]Put up some poles! Good practice for those church-goers that will eventually be a SB or stripper anyway.

The longer the poles, the closer they reach to the heavens.

Cheers.

QUOTE=RogerOver;5105646]Put up some poles! Good practice for those church-goers that will eventually be a SB or stripper anyway.

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;5105589]Two California megachurches rebrand as "strip clubs" to defy government lockdown orders.

[URL]https://disrn.com/news/two-california-megachurches-rebrand-as-strip-clubs-to-defy-government-lockdown-orders?fbclid=IwAR05HLfuDTqzryTiveMnEofluFlP__thSC-bNUf3OLgc_4X6mJk_bfvdv7M[/URL][/QUOTE]But I see their point. If fake gods should be restricting attendance then fake titties should too!

[QUOTE=JimJaimes;5104371]Trumps is a piece of shit and his cult are too. At least decency and sanity will be restored on the world stage, but I think the shit stain trump left in America's whitey tighties ain't coming out. Even with bleach. People won't forget that we elect folks like GW Bush and trump on a regular basis and the sane leadership is probably a fluke rather than the norm.[/QUOTE]The problem is that the Repuke-lican Party has pandered to the white nationalist scumbags for 30 years now. Ever since the rise of Fox Fake News and racist propagandists like Limbaugh and Hannity, we've had a divided country where rural and small-town white people want to blame blacks and brown-skinned people for all the problems in their lives and why their job opportunities and incomes in their all-white towns haven't improved the past 35 years.

It's a lot easier to blame minorities for your failings than a lack of motivation to go to college and get a good career to provide for your family. All the Red Hat Retards don't give a damn about reducing the deficit or "small government". They just want to see a flagrant racist like Trump really stick it to people with non-white skin and make them feel all that hillbilly white rage boiling inside them. Stupid racist people have stupid racist reactions to life's difficulties and they don't know how to use their brains to collaborate with people who don't look like them and solve the important problems in our society.

[QUOTE=TMeister;5106319]The problem is that the Repuke-lican Party has pandered to the white nationalist scumbags for 30 years now. Ever since the rise of Fox Fake News and racist propagandists like Limbaugh and Hannity, we've had a divided country where rural and small-town white people want to blame blacks and brown-skinned people for all the problems in their lives and why their job opportunities and incomes in their all-white towns haven't improved the past 35 years.

It's a lot easier to blame minorities for your failings than a lack of motivation to go to college and get a good career to provide for your family. All the Red Hat Retards don't give a damn about reducing the deficit or "small government". They just want to see a flagrant racist like Trump really stick it to people with non-white skin and make them feel all that hillbilly white rage boiling inside them. Stupid racist people have stupid racist reactions to life's difficulties and they don't know how to use their brains to collaborate with people who don't look like them and solve the important problems in our society.[/QUOTE]Come On Man.

Playing the race card by a liberal Old White Guy is so small. Hopefully you can do better then that because it isn't working. You just need to turn in you O. W. G. Card.

[QUOTE=TMeister;5106319]The problem is that the Repuke-lican Party has pandered to the white nationalist scumbags for 30 years now. Ever since the rise of Fox Fake News and racist propagandists like Limbaugh and Hannity, we've had a divided country where rural and small-town white people want to blame blacks and brown-skinned people for all the problems in their lives and why their job opportunities and incomes in their all-white towns haven't improved the past 35 years.

It's a lot easier to blame minorities for your failings than a lack of motivation to go to college and get a good career to provide for your family. All the Red Hat Retards don't give a damn about reducing the deficit or "small government". They just want to see a flagrant racist like Trump really stick it to people with non-white skin and make them feel all that hillbilly white rage boiling inside them. Stupid racist people have stupid racist reactions to life's difficulties and they don't know how to use their brains to collaborate with people who don't look like them and solve the important problems in our society.[/QUOTE]You're truly dumber than I thought. Do a little research at least. Good gawd.

[QUOTE=DNut;5105377]And the Supreme Court said, "No".

[URL]https://www.wlwt.com/article/supreme-court-rejects-gop-bid-to-halt-bidens-pennsylvania-win/34909056[/URL][/QUOTE]Actually it was a "hell no. " The tears from the right are so sweet tasting.

Bunch of snowflakes.

Looking for some ideas for a photo session. Not an adult photo session. But I'm looking for a location that would look like some shitty hotel room some strung out musician would have been in in the 70's or a creepy location. I figured a bunch of people here would havr seen some odd locations. If there is a shitty hotel, I'm not above renting a room to do the session. Again, it has nothing to do with escorts or anything, but some of the shady locations they may use would probably fit the bill. Any ideas are welcome haha. Thanks.

[QUOTE=JimJaimes;5106090]But I see their point. If fake gods should be restricting attendance then fake titties should too![/QUOTE]SoCal just went into a hard lockdown, without even outside dining available. How is outside dining more dangerous than the fucking grocery store? I'm not an anti-masker or "it's all a hoax" dumbass, but they really don't have any basis or pattern for the restrictions as far as I can tell. I'd be an unhappy restaurant owner if I couldn't even use the outside areas I created to accommodate the original restrictions.

[QUOTE=HoHunter2;5106737]Actually it was a "hell no. " The tears from the right are so sweet tasting.

Bunch of snowflakes.[/QUOTE]It's truly satisfying for America and the Mighty Democrats to watch these crybaby MAGA Snowflakes melting down as every state and Federal court shuts them down like weak beta cucks.

The Red Hat Retard Brigade have the thinnest skins and weakest spines of any electorate in modern American history. They believe in liar charlatans like Trump, while Dems believe in the Constitution and racial equality for all.

It will be wonderful watching Mighty Joe Biden wipe out all these Racist MAGA Swamp Scum from our country and make it great again.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5106878]SoCal just went into a hard lockdown, without even outside dining available. How is outside dining more dangerous than the fucking grocery store? I'm not an anti-masker or "it's all a hoax" dumbass, but they really don't have any basis or pattern for the restrictions as far as I can tell. I'd be an unhappy restaurant owner if I couldn't even use the outside areas I created to accommodate the original restrictions.[/QUOTE]Here is a story from earlier this month about what RO is talking about. Video in story is worth a watch if interested in this subject.

[URL]https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/california-lockdown-restaurant-owner-film-set-viral-b1767069.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5106878]SoCal just went into a hard lockdown, without even outside dining available. How is outside dining more dangerous than the fucking grocery store? I'm not an anti-masker or "it's all a hoax" dumbass, but they really don't have any basis or pattern for the restrictions as far as I can tell. I'd be an unhappy restaurant owner if I couldn't even use the outside areas I created to accommodate the original restrictions.[/QUOTE]You need to buy food, you don't need to dine out. One is a necessity, one is optional. The choices of what stays open and what has to close has to be weighed by more than risk. Philosophically, it's a version of Zeno's Paradox.

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;5106941]Here is a story from earlier this month about what RO is talking about. Video in story is worth a watch if interested in this subject.

[URL]https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/california-lockdown-restaurant-owner-film-set-viral-b1767069.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Comparing a restaurant to a movie set (even if the set looks like a restaurant) is not the same. A movie set is a controlled environment where access to it can be controlled and safeguard like daily testing can be done. A restaurant has a revolving door of strangers who you don't know where they came from, who they are, who they were with, and where they're going next.

I feel bad for her, but to equate the two is comparing apples to sneakers.

[QUOTE=TMeister;5106903]It's truly satisfying for America and the Mighty Democrats to watch these crybaby MAGA Snowflakes melting down as every state and Federal court shuts them down like weak beta cucks.

The Red Hat Retard Brigade have the thinnest skins and weakest spines of any electorate in modern American history. They believe in liar charlatans like Trump, while Dems believe in the Constitution and racial equality for all.

It will be wonderful watching Mighty Joe Biden wipe out all these Racist MAGA Swamp Scum from our country and make it great again.[/QUOTE]At least you didn't try to play the race card this time. Look if we can survive 8 years of Obama we can survive 2 years of senile Joe and 2 years of that crazy psycho *** Kamala.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5106878]SoCal just went into a hard lockdown, without even outside dining available. How is outside dining more dangerous than the fucking grocery store? I'm not an anti-masker or "it's all a hoax" dumbass, but they really don't have any basis or pattern for the restrictions as far as I can tell. I'd be an unhappy restaurant owner if I couldn't even use the outside areas I created to accommodate the original restrictions.[/QUOTE]In the grocery store you can opt for car service or you can spend a minimal amount of time in the store while wearing a mask and glasses the whole time. In a restaurant most people take their mask off to eat and drink! Funny thing is you have to wear your mask while in the lobby and walking around, but at the table the virus just goes away, right? Plus to add to the film company scenario, those involved in filming get tested every day to be allowed on set and then still follow mask protocols.

[QUOTE=DNut;5107044]Comparing a restaurant to a movie set (even if the set looks like a restaurant) is not the same. A movie set is a controlled environment where access to it can be controlled and safeguard like daily testing can be done. A restaurant has a revolving door of strangers who you don't know where they came from, who they are, who they were with, and where they're going next.

I feel bad for her, but to equate the two is comparing apples to sneakers.[/QUOTE]I disagree. It is not a movie set but a outdoor cafeteria for a movie, in the same parking lot as a similiar tent for a restaurant. The actors, extras, workers, cafeteria employees certainly aren't all sequestered together, anyone of them could catch the virus just like anyone who goes to eat at an outdoor restaurant. They are trying to crush entrepreneurs and have more people dependant on the government. It's BS.

[QUOTE=TMeister;5106903]It's truly satisfying for America and the Mighty Democrats to watch these crybaby MAGA Snowflakes melting down as every state and Federal court shuts them down like weak beta cucks.

The Red Hat Retard Brigade have the thinnest skins and weakest spines of any electorate in modern American history. They believe in liar charlatans like Trump, while Dems believe in the Constitution and racial equality for all.

It will be wonderful watching Mighty Joe Biden wipe out all these Racist MAGA Swamp Scum from our country and make it great again.[/QUOTE]"Mighty Joe Biden" What are you smokin?

[QUOTE=SnoMan;5107532]"Mighty Joe Biden" What are you smokin?[/QUOTE]Exaaaaactly!

[QUOTE=DNut;5106953]You need to buy food, you don't need to dine out. One is a necessity, one is optional. The choices of what stays open and what has to close has to be weighed by more than risk. Philosophically, it's a version of Zeno's Paradox.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Twisted69;5107483]In the grocery store you can opt for car service or you can spend a minimal amount of time in the store while wearing a mask and glasses the whole time. In a restaurant most people take their mask off to eat and drink! Funny thing is you have to wear your mask while in the lobby and walking around, but at the table the virus just goes away, right? Plus to add to the film company scenario, those involved in filming get tested every day to be allowed on set and then still follow mask protocols.[/QUOTE]I imagine as people drink booze, even in an outdoor setting, it tends to make them less careful.

Still really sucks for the business owners. Having owned a couple (businesses, not restaurants), I have some empathy.

[QUOTE=Daddy4U;5107421]At least you didn't try to play the race card this time. Look if we can survive 8 years of Obama we can survive 2 years of senile Joe and 2 years of that crazy psycho *** Kamala.[/QUOTE]If you think Kamala is a crazy psycho what do you consider Trump??

[QUOTE=Daddy4U;5107421]At least you didn't try to play the race card this time. Look if we can survive 8 years of Obama we can survive 2 years of senile Joe and 2 years of that crazy psycho *** Kamala.[/QUOTE]LOL keep crying, MAGA Snowflakes.

Mighty Joe is going to rule America for 8 glorious years, and then Killer Kamala or Hunter Biden rules for 8 years after that. Democrats will own both houses of Congress for an entire generation, too.

Trumpism is now seen as the modern version of Nazism or Italian fascism that was seen in the 1930's and 1940's. Nothing but racist ideology gone awry and providing no solutions to our 21st century challenges.

Bye bye, LOSERS.

[QUOTE=SnoMan;5107532]"Mighty Joe Biden" What are you smokin?[/QUOTE]He's your President, dippy. Bow your head, get on your knees and show him the respect he deserves.

MAGA Snowflakes are going to learn a LOT of painful lessons after January 20. Democrats got all kinds of tasty punishments in store for you losers.

[QUOTE=Dillsborodave;5108015]If you think Kamala is a crazy psycho what do you consider Trump??[/QUOTE]I agree Trump is crazy. He crazy as a fox. He get you libs to swallow the bait every time before he sets the hook. That's one reason why you guys hate him so much.

[QUOTE=Daddy4U;5108068]I agree Trump is crazy. He crazy as a fox. He get you libs to swallow the bait every time before he sets the hook. That's one reason why you guys hate him so much.[/QUOTE]Hate him and the reason is simple he's a corrupt conman. How many times will you allow YOURSELF to swallow the hook of yet another lie?