Strip Club Reports

Stopped by around 6:30 Sunday. Medium crowd and about 15-20 dancers. They were complaining that it was slow due to a BB game. DJ was talking for damn near 50% of the time. Screaming at the patrons to get off their cell phones and social media and spend. Told them they can't just come in and watch and smoke. Tough to get a good rhythm with all this talking. The DJ's at Strokers and Blaze are the most annoying in the city to me. For some idiotic reason they think people come in to listen to them as opposed to dancing nude women. Whatever.

So to the action. Quickly found Adore on the small stage and pulled her off. Went to sit down. But wait. They had just put notes on every single table that they were reserved for bottle service only. Told Adore we were out of luck. Mostly empty tables but all reserved. No, she said, that's for later IF it gets crowded. We can use these low tops in the back corner. So I ignored the fact that half the seating is taken up by VIP, the remainder was for bottle service, and the DJ talked the whole time. Danced Adore (110 lbs, A cup, nice stomach and butt. Previously at Follies). In that 6. 5 - 7 range. Best dances of the ones I sampled. Went next with Ruby, 4'11.115 with a decent face and nice butt and A / B cup. She's a fixture at Strokers. Solid 7 but no good with Junior. Finished with Persuasion. Maybe 5'4 and 115 lbs of solid muscle. Less than an A cup. Flat stomach and rock hard butt and thighs. Dances were meh. Said she was just temporary over from Pin Ups. A couple more attractive ladies but it was 8 and the prices were going up. Rather dig a ditch than pay $10 for a Strokers DJ monologue and low mileage dance so bounced to dinner. After 6 years of decline and maybe 50 visits I can say your mileage won't vary although OTC is often discussed and available.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;6429583]Think that's the last time I'll be going back there. Got there around 5 or 6 Sunday. 10-15 parking. Think 10 entrance. Parking lot was full. Only saw a couple worth anything. Stayed a few hours to see if night shift would get better. Left disappointed. Minny was the only one that caught my eye. Was going to hit up vivide but I guess it was closed until Monday at least that's what Google maps said.[/QUOTE]Vivde is closed on Sundays. The only clubs I know of that are open on Sundays are Wax and Pink Poney. I'm not sure about Goldrush or Cheetah.

Last I heard the ones open on Sunday are.

Pinups.

Strokers.

Blaze.

[QUOTE=Parkway91;6430169]Vivde is closed on Sundays. The only clubs I know of that are open on Sundays are Wax and Pink Poney. I'm not sure about Goldrush or Cheetah.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SgtLurker;6430664]Last I heard the ones open on Sunday are.

Pinups.

Strokers.

Blaze.[/QUOTE]Add.

Wax.

Fannies.

[QUOTE=PunkedLife;6429583]Think that's the last time I'll be going back there. Got there around 5 or 6 Sunday. 10-15 parking. Think 10 entrance. Parking lot was full. Only saw a couple worth anything. Stayed a few hours to see if night shift would get better. Left disappointed. Minny was the only one that caught my eye. Was going to hit up vivide but I guess it was closed until Monday at least that's what Google maps said.[/QUOTE]I was there on Saturday also, and I've been greatly disappointed with my last 6 or 7 visits with Blaze. While I was in the club, I was trying to figure out what was wrong with the place. I came to one major conclusion. The club needs to be remodeled badly.

There's really no comfortable seating. I've been a regular patron of Blaze since about 2006 and back then the layout was more open, more high tables up top, and didn't have the hookah, clothes, and other store areas at the bottom.

I was really trying to understand why the fucking pool tables take up 30% of the available space! Why the fuck is the upstairs pool tables eating up 35% of the floor with niggas that don't spend money but just shoot pool all day? Downstairs too, the whole back 30% of the floor with the 2 stupid pool tables of guys who don't spend. Back in the day the downstairs "stage" wasn't there either, so that makes the pool tables even more obnoxious. It doesn't even feel like the pool table areas are even part of the club.

Speaking of stages, the upstairs stage is ridiculously big for no reason. Why does it extend out twice the width of the DJ booth? The stage needs to be cut in half back to the extension of the DJ booth. I was confused watching 1 girl doing stage dances on a stage the size of a medium bedroom for patrons that are only at 3 high tables on the upstairs floor.

And speaking of the upstairs floor, the booths are stupid, straight up. The way that they are laid out, you could have seating for at least 30-40 patrons with just high tables and stools. Instead, each booth has the little stupid small table, and the booths end up being too small to actually get decent dances unless you are the only person in it. The booths end up having like 1 customer and a dancer, with maybe another unoccupied dancer sitting around or 1 or 2[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] just rolling weed or nursing their drinks. Meanwhile, patrons that actually want to get dances are stuck standing between the back end booth and wall corridor to the pool table area and bathrooms or standing in random places waiting for the 2 seats next to the ATM. There's plenty of seating at the bar, but who wants to get dances looking at the club entrance and the most foot traffic bumping into you or staring at your dances?

And speaking of bars and people bumping into each other, the downstairs bar is cool, but the traffic is so high that the front side of the bar is basically useless for getting dances. The back side is just ok, and there are only 3 chairs in the back row, so really, there are only 5 good seats at the downstairs bar.

The VIP booths downstairs are largely unused because of pricing, so they are mostly wasted space as well.

Blaze needs to figure out if it wants to be a strip club or a hookah lounge, but for the most part, it's shooting itself in the foot with the way it's laid out. And that's even before talking about the quality of girls has just fallen off over the years, but that problem is across the board in Atlanta and not only at Blaze.

[QUOTE=JoggingPants;6432565]

The VIP booths downstairs are largely unused because of pricing, so they are mostly wasted space as well.

Blaze needs to figure out if it wants to be a strip club or a hookah lounge, but for the most part, it's shooting itself in the foot with the way it's laid out. And that's even before talking about the quality of girls has just fallen off over the years, but that problem is across the board in Atlanta and not only at Blaze.[/QUOTE]Yes, it dropped out of my rotation because 85% of the girls are not suitable for me. At Vivid, Pin Ups, or Strokers I can usually dance at least 25% of the AA women. Not much of a fan of the cellulite, silicone shots, and protruding stomach look.

Your spot on about the layout and updates needed. The upstairs bathroom is worse than a campground latrine with waste water oozing up around your shoes when the urinal is flushed. I don't mind the upstairs booths but agree on all the wasted space. If they removed the downstairs pool tables that would be a fantastic spot for some low and high top tables and chairs that would be off the beaten path. Like so many of these clubs, if the money is covering the bills and putting something in the owners pocket then there is little thought about customer accommodation. Too bad, the doorman and bartenders have always treated me great at Blaze but I can't get past all the sagging bodies to wait in line for the 2 small framed women that might be working.

[QUOTE=JoggingPants;6432565] Blaze remodel ideas [/QUOTE]Yeah, your logic is sound.

Actually, a lot of items you stated is what kept Blaze off my regular rotation for a long time. But this was when I could go to Pleasers, Foxy Lady or Babes as primary options.

With all of those gone, Blaze became #1 by virtue of attrition.

Of the items you mentioned, I think the only real feasible remodel would be a combination of removing the VIP and removing that downstaris hookah setup. But I'm betting there is at least some money being made from the hookah, so not likely to go. Doubt VIP gets much of anything, so that definitely could be another alcove for getting dances like the one they already have.

I think the pool tables brings some money, too. Not so much as cost of playing a game, but all of those dudes is drinking (something I don't do while there). I kinda agree that removing half would be good, but I can't see a setup of high tables and chairs put in its place would result in folks getting dances in those areas.

There are times Blaze is packed to the gills, but there are also times when there is too much space on a light day.

Overall, I'd rather it stay like it is. The day they decide to remodel will be the end of Blaze as we know it. It would just do a complete remodel and become another make it rain, higher price per dance club.

[QUOTE=Wleakr;6432754]Yeah, your logic is sound.

Actually, a lot of items you stated is what kept Blaze off my regular rotation for a long time. But this was when I could go to Pleasers, Foxy Lady or Babes as primary options.

With all of those gone, Blaze became #1 by virtue of attrition.

Of the items you mentioned, I think the only real feasible remodel would be a combination of removing the VIP and removing that downstaris hookah setup. But I'm betting there is at least some money being made from the hookah, so not likely to go. Doubt VIP gets much of anything, so that definitely could be another alcove for getting dances like the one they already have.

I think the pool tables brings some money, too. Not so much as cost of playing a game, but all of those dudes is drinking (something I don't do while there). I kinda agree that removing half would be good, but I can't see a setup of high tables and chairs put in its place would result in folks getting dances in those areas..[/QUOTE]I'm not suggesting a full remodel that will turn it into a moneypit that would require more money / make it rain type. I'm just suggesting small stuff that will open up the floorplan. Remove the booths, replace with table tops and that would basically revert blaze back to the BMF days. They don't need to add, they need to subtract. The hookahs can be moved to the kitchen, they don't need a whole alcove for that. I agree with you that the VIPs should be converted into something more open. I still maintain the upstairs stage is overkill. I personally would rather see the downstairs pool tables remain while the upstairs ones are taken out. They could put a small back bar in that area with more seating. They could probably remove the female bathroom and fix the male bathroom and possibly expand to the female bathroom. If they did that, they could also remove the raggedy male bathroom downstairs and do something with that space. I agree that the downstairs ones don't really make for good dance area, but then again with the small downstairs stage, maybe it would make the downstairs stage more attractive.

Pinups has remodeled many times and not turned into a make it rain club. Same for Babes. I haven't been back to the old foxy lady since they remodeled.

[QUOTE=JoggingPants;6433049]

Pinups has remodeled many times and not turned into a make it rain club. Same for Babes. I haven't been back to the old foxy lady since they remodeled.[/QUOTE]AFAIK, Ace of Clubs (Babes) is make it rain at night. Lack of reviews attest to that. And not much going for dayshift.

Pinups renovations have been modest and seemed like they were gearing toward a different business model before walking that back. They even recovered the faux hardwood floors they recently put in with carpet. So now it's a layer of carpet covered with faux hard wood covered with carpet! LOL! They cut their costs by just operating Thurs-Sunday. Would argue their Friday and Saturday nights are pretty much a make it rain environment, but still at the $5 price point. But they did relocate their pool tables and replaced with tables and chairs which was for the better IMHO. However, they are operating with more space and a better initial layout than Blaze.

I agree with you. Blaze could use a remodel if done right. I'm just reluctant they could do it right!

Hey all, been a while since I've visited Atlanta, and I'm looking for some recommendations. I RTFF but wanted to confirm my info. Firstly, some background:

I usually go for white girls with slim / fit / average sized bodies. Fake tits and ass are fine, but no guts or big fat asses. Basically 8+ looks. Due to this preference, I mostly stuck to Cheetah / PP, although I've visited TT and Oasis in the past. I understand Atlanta is mostly black SC's, so this trip I'm prepared to go for some AA girls if they're still slim / fit / average and 8+ looks. I'm okay shelling out a bit more for this over going with a 6.

I'm only looking for BBFS. I understand this is very YMMV, SixInchPimp named a few at Blaze, Wax, and Goldrush a while ago but all with the caveat they had to be drunk or high for it to happen. I'm willing to take my chances, but I'd prefer guidance on where it's a higher possibility vs. A lower possibility. Like, I've gotten VIP at Cheetah and fingered a girl, and if I pulled it out she prob would have given a HJ or even sat on it if I was lucky, but this was one girl out of dozens I've danced with, so odds are bad and not worth trying for.

So, where to find 8+ girls who will fuck raw? So far, I haven't been able to find one club that seems to stand out. I'll give my understanding and you all can correct me, or suggest a club that's most likely going to fit what I'm looking for.

Blaze / Wax / Pinups / Goldrush: Mostly AA dancers, with cheap dance prices of $5/ song, maybe $10 at some. Guys try to go for DO dances, and depending how drunk she is / how much you tip, she may be okay slipping it in. You have to know where to sit in the club for that to happen, as some areas are more private than others. I'm cool with DO BBFS on the floor instead of VIP if that's the best way have it happen in these places. I have no clue how these clubs rank against each other, they all blend into the "AA club" category in my mind. Not sure if one is known for hotter dancers, or more mileage.

Vivide: Spiritual successor to Follies. More expensive than the black clubs. Mostly Cuban girls now, but some white and black too. Cuban CFS is easy, but I know the Florida Cubans almost never do BBFS so I'm assuming same for Atlanta. Dancer quality worse than PP / TT / Cheetah, but covered extras way more common. Good fallback option if I strike out on BBFS elsewhere and want a decent CFS from a 7 that is reasonably priced.

Tattletales: Mostly white, expensive without the dancer quality to go with it that PP / Cheetah has. Not worth visiting.

Cheetah: Haven't been back since the remodel, for a while I knew a lot of people who worked there due to visiting frequently. They all quit / went elsewhere due to earnings being bad for a bit. Food is great, but it used to be very low mileage. OTP rubbing if you're lucky. Dancer quality used to be the best in town, even better than PP, with mostly white girls and a few AA. Might go to see how it's changed, but not going to get my dick wet here. OTC or finding a sugar baby might be possible.

Pink Pony: Took over as the club with most amount of hot white girls after Cheetah's remodel and dancer exodus, from what I understand. Last time I went was pre-COVID and I didn't use to go a lot, preferring Cheetah due to prettier girls. But the last time I went, took a cute white spinner to the VIP furthest down the hall on the left, I think it's right next to DJ booth. Ended up with her grinding my bare dick over her clit and lips, but she refused to put it in. Was expensive, I think 30-min VIP + 200 tip for basically a HJ and bare stripper slide. From what I hear now, OTC is super common. Unsure if OTC BBFS is available, or how expensive it is. I think someone also said PP is great for finding sugar babies.

So based on this, no clear answer as to highest chance of BBFS. Where should I go for it in your opinions?

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6435311]Hey all, been a while since I've visited Atlanta, and I'm looking for some recommendations. I RTFF but wanted to confirm my info. Firstly, some background:

I usually go for white girls with slim / fit / average sized bodies. Fake tits and ass are fine, but no guts or big fat asses. Basically 8+ looks. Due to this preference, I mostly stuck to Cheetah / PP, although I've visited TT and Oasis in the past. I understand Atlanta is mostly black SC's, so this trip I'm prepared to go for some AA girls if they're still slim / fit / average and 8+ looks. I'm okay shelling out a bit more for this over going with a 6.

I'm only looking for BBFS. I understand this is very YMMV, SixInchPimp named a few at Blaze, Wax, and Goldrush a while ago but all with the caveat they had to be drunk or high for it to happen. I'm willing to take my chances, but I'd prefer guidance on where it's a higher possibility vs. A lower possibility. Like, I've gotten VIP at Cheetah and fingered a girl, and if I pulled it out she prob would have given a HJ or even sat on it if I was lucky, but this was one girl out of dozens I've danced with, so odds are bad and not worth trying for.

So, where to find 8+ girls who will fuck raw? So far, I haven't been able to find one club that seems to stand out. I'll give my understanding and you all can correct me, or suggest a club that's most likely going to fit what I'm looking for.

Blaze / Wax / Pinups / Goldrush: Mostly AA dancers, with cheap dance prices of $5/ song, maybe $10 at some. Guys try to go for DO dances, and depending how drunk she is / how much you tip, she may be okay slipping it in. You have to know where to sit in the club for that to happen, as some areas are more private than others. I'm cool with DO BBFS on the floor instead of VIP if that's the best way have it happen in these places. I have no clue how these clubs rank against each other, they all blend into the "AA club" category in my mind. Not sure if one is known for hotter dancers, or more mileage.[/QUOTE]You are looking in the wrong place. Strip clubs are not what you want, you want escorts. Sixinch gets what he gets because he has cultivated relationships. What you are looking for you will not get by just walking into a strip club, at least not in Atlanta.

PP sux. The fuuuk who said these chics on another level. Mediocre at best V has way better girls? Am I missing something?

[QUOTE=JoggingPants;6436298]You are looking in the wrong place. Strip clubs are not what you want, you want escorts. Sixinch gets what he gets because he has cultivated relationships. What you are looking for you will not get by just walking into a strip club, at least not in Atlanta.[/QUOTE]Mcsylv is looking for the needle in a haystack. He wants an 8+ but he wants them to perform like a 5. He might find that 6-7 at Wax or Seduction that might go into VIP and be enticed by extra dollars to go bare if she's desperate enough. Not normally happening at someplace like V or Diamond. Be fortunate just to find an 8+ AA that will do covered full service. Just so happened to have a great OTC experience with an AA Vivide lady about 10 days ago. She's in that 6. 5 range and money was never even discussed until I pulled into her apartment complex after our 4 hour date at my hotel. Did not want raw but could probably get it. Known her for a couple years. Getting that OTC raw on date 1 after you met the lady on day shift would be a long shot IMO. I have found the AA women at Vivide to be very germ or STD conscious.

If your talking about a white whale at V (4-5) then I think raw is often immediately in play. But the OP said an 8+ AA. I often visit clubs and don't even see an 8+ AA. Sure they all have a price but it won't happen without some prior relationship in most cases. Like you said, find an escort that specializes in raw instead of getting shot down 25 times to find the one that you hit it off with and will agree to this request. Thanks for falling on the sword to answer that one JP. Didn't want to be the first to come with the negative vibe since there are couple guys on the board that can keep pace with the Six Inch Pimp but they don't post that much.

[QUOTE=CarmelFight;6436456]PP sux. The fuuuk who said these chics on another level. Mediocre at best V has way better girls? Am I missing something?[/QUOTE]I have only been to the PP maybe 6-8 times. The quality of the women was a notch above an average day at Vivide (many visits). Have seen days when V was loaded with 7's and 8's but it's hit or miss.

As for PP, I like the parking, I like the space, I like the clean restrooms. The dances are awful and I refuse to waste my time. If I lived in the city and could stop by to cultivate OTC then maybe. I was dancing a very hot AA spinner on my final visit a couple years back. She was trying to please but was just very limited. Then the manager came by and said I was not allowed to touch her (I was trying to spread her apart. Not interested in touching). I got upset and the dancer said ignore him. No doubt he would have kicked me out if I continued with my normal routine.

PP is the club of last resort for me and I have been able to find something that will work in almost any spot but PP or Oasis (save the Oasis comments please. They didn't even get nude for many customers). Looks at PP have been solid in the past and they did have the added bonus of having some attractive white women when I visited. That's a rare commodity at V. Perhaps things have changed at PP or they just have off days like any club. You might want to mention the time of your visit CarmelFight so the PP fans can steer you to the peak hours.

[QUOTE=JMAbacus;6436514]I have only been to the PP maybe 6-8 times. The quality of the women was a notch above an average day at Vivide (many visits). Have seen days when V was loaded with 7's and 8's but it's hit or miss.

As for PP, I like the parking, I like the space, I like the clean restrooms. The dances are awful and I refuse to waste my time. If I lived in the city and could stop by to cultivate OTC then maybe. I was dancing a very hot AA spinner on my final visit a couple years back. She was trying to please but was just very limited. Then the manager came by and said I was not allowed to touch her (I was trying to spread her apart. Not interested in touching). I got upset and the dancer said ignore him. No doubt he would have kicked me out if I continued with my normal routine.

PP is the club of last resort for me and I have been able to find something that will work in almost any spot but PP or Oasis (save the Oasis comments please. They didn't even get nude for many customers). Looks at PP have been solid in the past and they did have the added bonus of having some attractive white women when I visited. That's a rare commodity at V. Perhaps things have changed at PP or they just have off days like any club. You might want to mention the time of your visit CarmelFight so the PP fans can steer you to the peak hours.[/QUOTE]It's 7 pm I'm going to stay all night to see if it's because it's day shift but this is weak for sure 2 attractive white girls and literally.

Been dancing for more than 30 minutes with 1 dude it's hard to watch cause this dude is still paying her $10 a dance.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6435311]Hey all, been a while since I've visited Atlanta, and I'm looking for some recommendations. I RTFF but wanted to confirm my info. Firstly, some background:

I usually go for white girls with slim / fit / average sized bodies. Fake tits and ass are fine, but no guts or big fat asses. Basically 8+ looks. Due to this preference, I mostly stuck to Cheetah / PP, although I've visited TT and Oasis in the past. I understand Atlanta is mostly black SC's, so this trip I'm prepared to go for some AA girls if they're still slim / fit / average and 8+ looks. I'm okay shelling out a bit more for this over going with a 6.

I'm only looking for BBFS. I understand this is very YMMV, SixInchPimp named a few at Blaze, Wax, and Goldrush a while ago but all with the caveat they had to be drunk or high for it to happen. I'm willing to take my chances, but I'd prefer guidance on where it's a higher possibility vs. A lower possibility. Like, I've gotten VIP at Cheetah and fingered a girl, and if I pulled it out she prob would have given a HJ or even sat on it if I was lucky, but this was one girl out of dozens I've danced with, so odds are bad and not worth trying for.
[/QUOTE]It sounds like you have the information you need. It is pretty much a random factor around bare. However if you're looking for a straight forward guarantee I haven't known any dancers based on your criteria doing it for less than 2 k. But there are some that will do it for the right price. Latinas most you can get is a overpriced BBBJ. There was this one lightskin AA named Chase from Follies that I got BBFS for less than 300. I can't recall the exact price as it was about 2 years ago. This first time was a just caught in the moment thing but after that she didn't both to ask about a condom.

There is always the other route of building relationships although that route takes time. Could always try escorts which will also probably be a lot more expensive. You'd be better off finding something on seeking arrangements.

[QUOTE=JMAbacus;6436514]I have only been to the PP maybe 6-8 times. The quality of the women was a notch above an average day at Vivide (many visits). Have seen days when V was loaded with 7's and 8's but it's hit or miss.

As for PP, I like the parking, I like the space, I like the clean restrooms. The dances are awful and I refuse to waste my time. If I lived in the city and could stop by to cultivate OTC then maybe. I was dancing a very hot AA spinner on my final visit a couple years back. She was trying to please but was just very limited. Then the manager came by and said I was not allowed to touch her (I was trying to spread her apart. Not interested in touching). I got upset and the dancer said ignore him. No doubt he would have kicked me out if I continued with my normal routine.

PP is the club of last resort for me and I have been able to find something that will work in almost any spot but PP or Oasis (save the Oasis comments please. They didn't even get nude for many customers). Looks at PP have been solid in the past and they did have the added bonus of having some attractive white women when I visited. That's a rare commodity at V. Perhaps things have changed at PP or they just have off days like any club. You might want to mention the time of your visit CarmelFight so the PP fans can steer you to the peak hours.[/QUOTE]Just back PP. IMO it's a good bar to just hang out. Lot of bar space. The women tonight were pretty good. Decent mix but mostly white, few AA and latinas. The dances are still air dances, but I like how they have 4 stages going at once and you can interact with the girls and get a close look. One dancer I got dances from tonight, Stevie, curly haired blonde; really nice and sensual. She did as much as she could with dances, but it is very limited there. I suppose VIP may be a lot more intimate but it's 300 for HH and usually they want you to tip another 100 on top of that and have some type of fee you have to pay the VIP host / hostess. I just can't justify that expense when there are places I can go for less and have a full menu.

Went to PP as well early eve Sat and stayed until 1 am. It was my 3rd visit. Did a late Sun night (don't recommend) and a Wed 10 pmish, nice balance from 7 pm to 11 pm. Quality girls there, open lanes to snipe any girl eventually when they freed. I have not and will not do a VIP there, as others wrote its like $300+ min plus tip just to gamble on very light action if at all. All the girls are making money and plenty of high rollers came as night rolled in making it rain just to walk by the stage so there's no incentive for them to be wild. Some folks have managed to get OTC, props to them for taking the time to cultivate and proper game. That being said I do like spending time there, and learning how PP works & figuring out if I can get OTC w / o dropping more than $60 on a girl is my lofty experiment. Of note, this Israeli looking square faced big fake tit slim body chick quoted a nearby guy $450 for VIP, so $300 I imagine and the tip. I don't know if she was selling extras as her dances weren't handsy, just sitting in his lap.

As for the talent, as a guy whos drawn towards Latinas and white girls, I'll say this night PP had a couple 9's and a few 8's imo, but overall most were cute and all natural. Good variety of colors and shapes. That being said, there was about 6-7 girls I was willing to have a few dances (only managed to dance 1 girl). I feel that Tattletales has more stunners, more plastic (which I don't mind, sometimes like). The high rollers have jacked up the TT prices and so girls are pretty lazy as they know eventually someone will drop $1 K on them just to talk at the bar. Plus TT venue is tighter and less forgiving than PP.

Compared to V, I'd say PP talent has a higher floor. 90% of PP girls I'd bang for free, where 40% V I would. Still V has around 8 girls I have or would VIP with. Interestingly I met an 8. 5/10 white chick that's high mileage (a rarity) at V, she ended up working at PP shortly after. From V I got her number, ended up 2 sessions at her hotel $300 for 30 min with BBBJ, intense kissing, and she smoked me up for 'free' since I brought a Rose'. Unfortunately she ghosted, this was 2 months into my strip clubbing and now 8 months later I realize what an absolute rarity gem she was, she disappeared unfortunately. At V, my favorite girl Mia (a legit 10 in my opinion) has disappeared.

PP: Chill, best atmosphere & pace, girls are respectful not aggressive, but low mileage. Great with a wingman to kill time. After 11 pm it peaks for me, just gets busier which isn't my style.

TT: Tight, efficient, higher mileage if you're willing to spend enough, has the most 9's and 10's (imo). Beware the super aggressive Latinas.

V: Had quality control issues last month, but bounced back last weekend. Highest mileage, consistent product, most girls are fair game and standardized VIP service. As long as you're paying, they'll focus on you. Some drama between spicy Latinas, so usually I stick to a roster of 2-3 main girls. They haven't been bringing much new talent for Latinas, the white girls are rare. Their only 2 white girls I like are redhead Amber Heard, and May (thick stacked blonde with braces).

Diamonds: Still on my to do list.

Wax: Far, but sounds like there's 1-2 girls up my alley. But PP / V / TT cover everything.

[QUOTE=JMAbacus;6436480]Mcsylv is looking for the needle in a haystack. He wants an 8+ but he wants them to perform like a 5. He might find that 6-7 at Wax or Seduction that might go into VIP and be enticed by extra dollars to go bare if she's desperate enough. Not normally happening at someplace like V or Diamond. Be fortunate just to find an 8+ AA that will do covered full service. Just so happened to have a great OTC experience with an AA Vivide lady about 10 days ago. She's in that 6. 5 range and money was never even discussed until I pulled into her apartment complex after our 4 hour date at my hotel. Did not want raw but could probably get it. Known her for a couple years. Getting that OTC raw on date 1 after you met the lady on day shift would be a long shot IMO. I have found the AA women at Vivide to be very germ or STD conscious.

If your talking about a white whale at V (4-5) then I think raw is often immediately in play. But the OP said an 8+ AA. I often visit clubs and don't even see an 8+ AA. Sure they all have a price but it won't happen without some prior relationship in most cases. Like you said, find an escort that specializes in raw instead of getting shot down 25 times to find the one that you hit it off with and will agree to this request. Thanks for falling on the sword to answer that one JP. Didn't want to be the first to come with the negative vibe since there are couple guys on the board that can keep pace with the Six Inch Pimp but they don't post that much.[/QUOTE]Just to clarify, I said I usually go for white 8+ girls at clubs, but since ATL is mostly black clubs, I'd be open to an 8+ AA this time. Latina is also fine. But if 8+ is a rarity in ATL at all, then I'm looking in the wrong spot I guess. I just remember there being plenty at Cheetah back before COVID when I last visited.

[QUOTE=JMAbacus;6436514]I have only been to the PP maybe 6-8 times. The quality of the women was a notch above an average day at Vivide (many visits). Have seen days when V was loaded with 7's and 8's but it's hit or miss.

As for PP, I like the parking, I like the space, I like the clean restrooms. The dances are awful and I refuse to waste my time. If I lived in the city and could stop by to cultivate OTC then maybe. I was dancing a very hot AA spinner on my final visit a couple years back. She was trying to please but was just very limited. Then the manager came by and said I was not allowed to touch her (I was trying to spread her apart. Not interested in touching). I got upset and the dancer said ignore him. No doubt he would have kicked me out if I continued with my normal routine.

PP is the club of last resort for me and I have been able to find something that will work in almost any spot but PP or Oasis (save the Oasis comments please. They didn't even get nude for many customers). Looks at PP have been solid in the past and they did have the added bonus of having some attractive white women when I visited. That's a rare commodity at V. Perhaps things have changed at PP or they just have off days like any club. You might want to mention the time of your visit CarmelFight so the PP fans can steer you to the peak hours.[/QUOTE]As mentioned, I've only visited twice at PP, and my second visit during dayshift I was able to get a HJ and bare stripper slide in the VIP. Totally not worth the price, as I think I tipped $200 plus VIP fee, but I was under the impression from that visit that the girls would get fairly naughty, as this was the first time I met her. Guess I really lucked out and didn't know how rare what I got was.

[QUOTE=RondaColdSon;6436722]It sounds like you have the information you need. It is pretty much a random factor around bare. However if you're looking for a straight forward guarantee I haven't known any dancers based on your criteria doing it for less than 2 k. But there are some that will do it for the right price. Latinas most you can get is a overpriced BBBJ. There was this one lightskin AA named Chase from Follies that I got BBFS for less than 300. I can't recall the exact price as it was about 2 years ago. This first time was a just caught in the moment thing but after that she didn't both to ask about a condom.

There is always the other route of building relationships although that route takes time. Could always try escorts which will also probably be a lot more expensive. You'd be better off finding something on seeking arrangements.[/QUOTE]I don't know any reputable escorts that are 8+ who offer BBFS except maybe 3 or 4 scattered all over the country who charge a fortune. Jade Jayden in Tampa, for example, is $1 k+ an hour I think, and she's not even an 8 in my book. BBFS girls are mostly listcrawler or skipthegames girls who are less attractive, flaky, no reviews, etc.

I do Seeking, been finding SB's in Vegas a few months back, but I don't have as much time to travel, so I was hoping a quick hop down south to ATL from where I am in DC for a day or weekend would have good results. Based on the reviews, I'm guessing not.

Just FYI for you all, Florida has BBFS at clubs. I posted a review a while back with some info. I was researching Atlanta for a change of scenery, but with the information, I guess I'm going back to Florida.

[QUOTE=HeywoodDJ;6436869]... I have not and will not do a VIP there, as others wrote its like $300+ min plus tip just to gamble on very light action if at all.[/QUOTE]Unless something has changed at PP very recently (like last week), my daytime VIP experience was, and always has been, $200 for the girl and $35/ room. Slip the floor manager $15-$20, and you're basically all-in for $250. Last week, I scored the corner VIP room, catty-corner to Stage 2 (near the ATM), and had a great time with an 8+. Unlike TT, there is an open window space between the VIP room and bar, but nobody looks in and the light disparity makes it difficult to see what's going on anyway. TT definitely has the better and more expensive VIP experience, but for what PP offers (comfy club, good food, reasonable prices, and fantastically beautiful girls), it'll stay in my SC rotation.

[QUOTE=Rod8432;6437139] Last week, I scored the corner VIP room, catty-corner to Stage 2 (near the ATM), and had a great time with an 8+. Unlike TT, there is an open window space between the VIP room and bar, but nobody looks in and the light disparity makes it difficult to see what's going on anyway.[/QUOTE]Was the "great time" high mileage lap dances or "something extra"?

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6437128]Just to clarify, I said I usually go for white 8+ girls at clubs, but since ATL is mostly black clubs, I'd be open to an 8+ AA this time. Latina is also fine. But if 8+ is a rarity in ATL at all, then I'm looking in the wrong spot I guess. I just remember there being plenty at Cheetah back before COVID when I last visited.

As mentioned, I've only visited twice at PP, and my second visit during dayshift I was able to get a HJ and bare stripper slide in the VIP. Totally not worth the price, as I think I tipped $200 plus VIP fee, but I was under the impression from that visit that the girls would get fairly naughty, as this was the first time I met her. Guess I really lucked out and didn't know how rare what I got was.

I don't know any reputable escorts that are 8+ who offer BBFS except maybe 3 or 4 scattered all over the country who charge a fortune. Jade Jayden in Tampa, for example, is $1 k+ an hour I think, and she's not even an 8 in my book. BBFS girls are mostly listcrawler or skipthegames girls who are less attractive, flaky, no reviews, etc.

I do Seeking, been finding SB's in Vegas a few months back, but I don't have as much time to travel, so I was hoping a quick hop down south to ATL from where I am in DC for a day or weekend would have good results. Based on the reviews, I'm guessing not.

Just FYI for you all, Florida has BBFS at clubs. I posted a review a while back with some info. I was researching Atlanta for a change of scenery, but with the information, I guess I'm going back to Florida.[/QUOTE]I'm surprised you aren't able to find what you want in the DMV area. Then again, you don't prefer AA so maybe that's why. It's been awhile, but back in the day Maryland clubs in PG county were doing pretty good.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6435311]Hey all, been a while since I've visited Atlanta, and I'm looking for some recommendations. I RTFF but wanted to confirm my info. Firstly, some background:

I usually go for white girls with slim / fit / average sized bodies. Fake tits and ass are fine, but no guts or big fat asses. Basically 8+ looks. Due to this preference, I mostly stuck to Cheetah / PP, although I've visited TT and Oasis in the past. I understand Atlanta is mostly black SC's, so this trip I'm prepared to go for some AA girls if they're still slim / fit / average and 8+ looks. I'm okay shelling out a bit more for this over going with a 6.

I'm only looking for BBFS. I understand this is very YMMV, SixInchPimp named a few at Blaze, Wax, and Goldrush a while ago but all with the caveat they had to be drunk or high for it to happen. I'm willing to take my chances, but I'd prefer guidance on where it's a higher possibility vs. A lower possibility. Like, I've gotten VIP at Cheetah and fingered a girl, and if I pulled it out she prob would have given a HJ or even sat on it if I was lucky, but this was one girl out of dozens I've danced with, so odds are bad and not worth trying for.

So, where to find 8+ girls who will fuck raw? So far, I haven't been able to find one club that seems to stand out. I'll give my understanding and you all can correct me, or suggest a club that's most likely going to fit what I'm looking for.

Blaze / Wax / Pinups / Goldrush: Mostly AA dancers, with cheap dance prices of $5/ song, maybe $10 at some. Guys try to go for DO dances, and depending how drunk she is / how much you tip, she may be okay slipping it in. You have to know where to sit in the club for that to happen, as some areas are more private than others. I'm cool with DO BBFS on the floor instead of VIP if that's the best way have it happen in these places. I have no clue how these clubs rank against each other, they all blend into the "AA club" category in my mind. Not sure if one is known for hotter dancers, or more mileage.

Vivide: Spiritual successor to Follies. More expensive than the black clubs. Mostly Cuban girls now, but some white and black too. Cuban CFS is easy, but I know the Florida Cubans almost never do BBFS so I'm assuming same for Atlanta. Dancer quality worse than PP / TT / Cheetah, but covered extras way more common. Good fallback option if I strike out on BBFS elsewhere and want a decent CFS from a 7 that is reasonably priced.

Tattletales: Mostly white, expensive without the dancer quality to go with it that PP / Cheetah has. Not worth visiting.

Cheetah: Haven't been back since the remodel, for a while I knew a lot of people who worked there due to visiting frequently. They all quit / went elsewhere due to earnings being bad for a bit. Food is great, but it used to be very low mileage. OTP rubbing if you're lucky. Dancer quality used to be the best in town, even better than PP, with mostly white girls and a few AA. Might go to see how it's changed, but not going to get my dick wet here. OTC or finding a sugar baby might be possible.

Pink Pony: Took over as the club with most amount of hot white girls after Cheetah's remodel and dancer exodus, from what I understand. Last time I went was pre-COVID and I didn't use to go a lot, preferring Cheetah due to prettier girls. But the last time I went, took a cute white spinner to the VIP furthest down the hall on the left, I think it's right next to DJ booth. Ended up with her grinding my bare dick over her clit and lips, but she refused to put it in. Was expensive, I think 30-min VIP + 200 tip for basically a HJ and bare stripper slide. From what I hear now, OTC is super common. Unsure if OTC BBFS is available, or how expensive it is. I think someone also said PP is great for finding sugar babies.

So based on this, no clear answer as to highest chance of BBFS. Where should I go for it in your opinions?[/QUOTE]The good looking girls at pp, TT, or cheetah are not doing BBFS the first time you talk to them. If you walk in and within five minutes of first talking to a girl, you bring up BBFS, I don't see it happening. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, after all lightning does strike. However, I am going to say that it is extremely hard to get. I am only speaking about pp and oasis level girls. I have no experience at cheetah or TT, but I suspect the same is true there.

I've found the subtle approach tends to work well with the high class dancer ****. It also works with waitresses and shooter girls. You have to put the work in. If you think it's just going to happen because you walked in, I don't see it happening at this level very often. Pick a place and put in the work is my suggestion.

[QUOTE=Joesouncool;6437520]The good looking girls at pp, TT, or cheetah are not doing BBFS the first time you talk to them. If you walk in and within five minutes of first talking to a girl, you bring up BBFS, I don't see it happening. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, after all lightning does strike. However, I am going to say that it is extremely hard to get. I am only speaking about pp and oasis level girls. I have no experience at cheetah or TT, but I suspect the same is true there.

I've found the subtle approach tends to work well with the high class dancer ****. It also works with waitresses and shooter girls. You have to put the work in. If you think it's just going to happen because you walked in, I don't see it happening at this level very often. Pick a place and put in the work is my suggestion.[/QUOTE]That's the approach I'll be taking for my new start at PP. I haven't been able to pick up the early subtleties of the few PP girls I danced. Both talked politely (a much needed refresher from my poor Spanish at V) and both did light contact lapdances. Compared to V, certain girls are obvious like getting full nude by dance 2 & making you grab them harder, flashing bits, and some just telling you flat out the extras.

Neither of my 2 came back after I tipped them a few bucks on stage. Didn't help that it was busier and guys were making it rain. My plan is for a girl is 3 visits (when it's slow), 2-3 dances each time, by 3rd visit see if I can get a number. I hope sweetening the deal with ITC VIP won't be necessary, especially if I'm getting no extras back there so I don't see how it would help my chances. Being stingy with $ isn't helping, I'm not trying to put more than $100 for a girl. Maybe some would be greased with a few VIPs, but I'd rather have a girl that's going to nickel & dime me less (while still being quality).

Maybe the lofty goal is being more hardened from my 1st year of clubbing where I have a couple stable girls at V, as well as upcoming travel to Spain & Colombia where OTC girls are quoting $30-$130 per hour.

Of funny note, hearing some PP girls talk trash about other clubs girls is funny. Some know V as the spiritual successor to Follies and thus the baggage. I thought PP & TT girls would be buddies due to proximity, relatable 20's yo girls, & whatever camaraderie of being a stripper. But some PP girls make strong comments about TT's looser morals & say shared hygiene.

[QUOTE=Joesouncool;6437520]The good looking girls at pp, TT, or cheetah are not doing BBFS the first time you talk to them. If you walk in and within five minutes of first talking to a girl, you bring up BBFS, I don't see it happening. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, after all lightning does strike. However, I am going to say that it is extremely hard to get. I am only speaking about pp and oasis level girls. I have no experience at cheetah or TT, but I suspect the same is true there.

I've found the subtle approach tends to work well with the high class dancer ****. It also works with waitresses and shooter girls. You have to put the work in. If you think it's just going to happen because you walked in, I don't see it happening at this level very often. Pick a place and put in the work is my suggestion.[/QUOTE]Yeah when I mentioned the $2 k+ for white girls I personally didn't just walk up and ask for bare. It always started with a BBBJ and I just casually asked after fucking them how much it would cost to not wear a condom next time. Like you mentioned, lightning does strike and desperation since some have poor money management skills then need to make rent same day. I just text them weeks later and say I'm some made up name from a different number and I did VIP or met them at their hotel before and wanted to know how much bare was to confirm the price they gave me in person. The ones I've done this with are consistently around the $2 k+ mark. As I mentioned though SA you can get it cheaper.

Amber heard look alike is one and the white girl with big curly hair. At PP theres this slim one with a dragon tattoo on her back and another with a tattoo of like a small rifle on her thigh. There are quite a few white girls that'll do for $2k. Not sure if you could just walk up to them never having a convo, but Im sure if you do VIP once youll be offered the same

[QUOTE=RondaColdSon;6437917]Yeah when I mentioned the $2 k+ for white girls I personally didn't just walk up and ask for bare. It always started with a BBBJ and I just casually asked after fucking them how much it would cost to not wear a condom next time. Like you mentioned, lightning does strike and desperation since some have poor money management skills then need to make rent same day. I just text them weeks later and say I'm some made up name from a different number and I did VIP or met them at their hotel before and wanted to know how much bare was to confirm the price they gave me in person. The ones I've done this with are consistently around the $2 k+ mark. As I mentioned though SA you can get it cheaper.

Amber heard look alike is one and the white girl with big curly hair. At PP theres this slim one with a dragon tattoo on her back and another with a tattoo of like a small rifle on her thigh. There are quite a few white girls that'll do for $2k. Not sure if you could just walk up to them never having a convo, but Im sure if you do VIP once youll be offered the same[/QUOTE]$2 K to fuck bare? Ya'll be paying Vegas rates to these Atlanta girls LOL.

[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;6438121]$2 K to fuck bare? Ya'll be paying Vegas rates to these Atlanta girls LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah. That threw me off, too. But I guess someone is paying!

[QUOTE=HeywoodDJ;6437798]That's the approach I'll be taking for my new start at PP. I haven't been able to pick up the early subtleties of the few PP girls I danced. Both talked politely (a much needed refresher from my poor Spanish at V) and both did light contact lapdances. Compared to V, certain girls are obvious like getting full nude by dance 2 & making you grab them harder, flashing bits, and some just telling you flat out the extras.

Neither of my 2 came back after I tipped them a few bucks on stage. Didn't help that it was busier and guys were making it rain. My plan is for a girl is 3 visits (when it's slow), 2-3 dances each time, by 3rd visit see if I can get a number. I hope sweetening the deal with ITC VIP won't be necessary, especially if I'm getting no extras back there so I don't see how it would help my chances. Being stingy with $ isn't helping, I'm not trying to put more than $100 for a girl. Maybe some would be greased with a few VIPs, but I'd rather have a girl that's going to nickel & dime me less (while still being quality).

Maybe the lofty goal is being more hardened from my 1st year of clubbing where I have a couple stable girls at V, as well as upcoming travel to Spain & Colombia where OTC girls are quoting $30-$130 per hour.

Of funny note, hearing some PP girls talk trash about other clubs girls is funny. Some know V as the spiritual successor to Follies and thus the baggage. I thought PP & TT girls would be buddies due to proximity, relatable 20's yo girls, & whatever camaraderie of being a stripper. But some PP girls make strong comments about TT's looser morals & say shared hygiene.[/QUOTE]This is all my personal opinion.

I think you are running into a dynamic that there are bigger spenders out in the world of the club when you have been there. Another problem is that I think you are associated V and PP. The two are different worlds with a lot of difference between girls beyond just their skin color and language. The clients are willing to pay more, the girls get more money, it's just a different financial world. Yes, I've seen lightning strike twice. You might get a stripper in her 20's that might give it up bare at pp for less than $100 invested before the otc, but I seriously doubt it.

I've known stripper chicks over my life that will give it away bare. The subtle approach has always been involved. There has been a ton of discussion involved, I mean a fuckton of discussion. There have been rules involved. The last thing I would want would be some pregnant stripper screaming at me. FYI, I don't see these girls dealing with guys in burner phones. I don't see a 3 am text from a burner phone with "how much for bare?" getting a favorable response from them, but that is just me. I can see that some girls would start at $2 k to see how big of a sucker is on the other end of the line. That's how negotiation works.

[QUOTE=RondaColdSon;6437917]Yeah when I mentioned the $2 k+ for white girls I personally didn't just walk up and ask for bare. It always started with a BBBJ and I just casually asked after fucking them how much it would cost to not wear a condom next time. Like you mentioned, lightning does strike and desperation since some have poor money management skills then need to make rent same day. I just text them weeks later and say I'm some made up name from a different number and I did VIP or met them at their hotel before and wanted to know how much bare was to confirm the price they gave me in person. The ones I've done this with are consistently around the $2 k+ mark. As I mentioned though SA you can get it cheaper.

Amber heard look alike is one and the white girl with big curly hair. At PP theres this slim one with a dragon tattoo on her back and another with a tattoo of like a small rifle on her thigh. There are quite a few white girls that'll do for $2k. Not sure if you could just walk up to them never having a convo, but Im sure if you do VIP once youll be offered the same[/QUOTE]Oh my. What is her stage name & can you tell me when she's working? This is Vivide, right?

[QUOTE=Joesouncool;6438715]This is all my personal opinion.

I think you are running into a dynamic that there are bigger spenders out in the world of the club when you have been there. Another problem is that I think you are associated V and PP. The two are different worlds with a lot of difference between girls beyond just their skin color and language. The clients are willing to pay more, the girls get more money, it's just a different financial world. Yes, I've seen lightning strike twice. You might get a stripper in her 20's that might give it up bare at pp for less than $100 invested before the otc, but I seriously doubt it.

I've known stripper chicks over my life that will give it away bare. The subtle approach has always been involved. There has been a ton of discussion involved, I mean a fuckton of discussion. There have been rules involved. The last thing I would want would be some pregnant stripper screaming at me. FYI, I don't see these girls dealing with guys in burner phones. I don't see a 3 am text from a burner phone with "how much for bare?" getting a favorable response from them, but that is just me. I can see that some girls would start at $2 k to see how big of a sucker is on the other end of the line. That's how negotiation works.[/QUOTE]I hear ya, it's definitely different amongst clubs. I first started off at TT for a few months, and a big culture shock when I went to V (for the better mostly). Since I have options & slightly more confident, I'm trying to get lucky and score a PP girl for OTC, not even bare.

Does anyone know when the best time to go to Diamonds is? Would have to be after 6 pm on weekdays, or anytime Sat. Is it like V dayshift where the Latinas go until 8 pm? Would like to know the cover / parking fees too. Thanks!

What does DO stand for? Planning a visit next month and would love to get some in club action!

[QUOTE=BluePillow;6438992]What does DO stand for? Planning a visit next month and would love to get some in club action![/QUOTE]Dick Out. As in Dick out of your pants when receiving a lap / couch dance.

[QUOTE=BluePillow;6438992]What does DO stand for? Planning a visit next month and would love to get some in club action![/QUOTE]I realize I could just say what it means and not rant. But no fun in that! This comes up every once in awhile and it boggles my mind how it can't be just be figured out from the initials.

I figured it out immediately over a decade ago when I first came across it in this thread. Plus the context in how it's used should be a dead giveaway. If nothing else, you should know what the "D" means.

I'll let one of my fellow brother in arms spell it out. LOL!

[QUOTE=FreudFro;6439101]Dick Out. As in Dick out of your pants when receiving a lap / couch dance.[/QUOTE]And there it is!

[QUOTE=Joesouncool;6438715]This is all my personal opinion.

I think you are running into a dynamic that there are bigger spenders out in the world of the club when you have been there. Another problem is that I think you are associated V and PP. The two are different worlds with a lot of difference between girls beyond just their skin color and language. The clients are willing to pay more, the girls get more money, it's just a different financial world. Yes, I've seen lightning strike twice. You might get a stripper in her 20's that might give it up bare at pp for less than $100 invested before the otc, but I seriously doubt it.

I've known stripper chicks over my life that will give it away bare. The subtle approach has always been involved. There has been a ton of discussion involved, I mean a fuckton of discussion. There have been rules involved. The last thing I would want would be some pregnant stripper screaming at me. FYI, I don't see these girls dealing with guys in burner phones. I don't see a 3 am text from a burner phone with "how much for bare?" getting a favorable response from them, but that is just me. I can see that some girls would start at $2 k to see how big of a sucker is on the other end of the line. That's how negotiation works.[/QUOTE]The topic was from Mcsylv for white girls that are a 8+ down for bare. Let's be honest there are guys spending tons to keep their attention while in the club. Based on what I read from TT reviews VIP CFS can end up pricey with upsells. Or PP where you're being charged $300-400 for just dances in VIP. I'm just providing prices of what I've been told from four dancers that somewhat meet his criteria. Of course he could get a fugly white girl for cheaper or even negotiate for less than 2 k. I personally don't negotiate which is why I settle for the BBBJ and CFS for 250 from white dancers.

If you know better options you should share so Mcsylv can use those options. It doesn't seem like he wants to build rapport over time and he's looking specifically for a dancer from what it seems.

[QUOTE=TylerDurden07;6438787]Oh my. What is her stage name & can you tell me when she's working? This is Vivide, right?[/QUOTE]I don't recall her stage name for the red head. But when you see her you'll know instantly.

[QUOTE=JoggingPants;6437467]I'm surprised you aren't able to find what you want in the DMV area. Then again, you don't prefer AA so maybe that's why. It's been awhile, but back in the day Maryland clubs in PG county were doing pretty good.[/QUOTE]The PG MD clubs were on the lower end talent-wise. Not what I'm looking for, even if I was into AA's.

[QUOTE=Joesouncool;6437520]The good looking girls at pp, TT, or cheetah are not doing BBFS the first time you talk to them. If you walk in and within five minutes of first talking to a girl, you bring up BBFS, I don't see it happening. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, after all lightning does strike. However, I am going to say that it is extremely hard to get. I am only speaking about pp and oasis level girls. I have no experience at cheetah or TT, but I suspect the same is true there.

I've found the subtle approach tends to work well with the high class dancer ****. It also works with waitresses and shooter girls. You have to put the work in. If you think it's just going to happen because you walked in, I don't see it happening at this level very often. Pick a place and put in the work is my suggestion.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately I'm not local so I can't develop that rapport over a few weeks / months.

[QUOTE=HeywoodDJ;6437798]Of funny note, hearing some PP girls talk trash about other clubs girls is funny. Some know V as the spiritual successor to Follies and thus the baggage. I thought PP & TT girls would be buddies due to proximity, relatable 20's yo girls, & whatever camaraderie of being a stripper. But some PP girls make strong comments about TT's looser morals & say shared hygiene.[/QUOTE]I know several Cheetah's dancers before COVID who would sneer at PP and TT and said anybody who worked there were WGs. Then once the money went bad at Cheetah during remodel, COVID, and owner dying, they went to PP lmao.

[QUOTE=BluePillow;6438992]What does DO stand for? Planning a visit next month and would love to get some in club action![/QUOTE]Dick Out. Where you pull your weiner out and let the dancer grind it while giving a lapdance on the floor. Specifically on the floor, not VIP, or it would just be called normal VIP extras.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6439495] I'm not local so I can't develop that rapport over a few weeks / months.

I know several Cheetah's dancers before COVID who would sneer at PP and TT and said anybody who worked there were WGs. Then once the money went bad at Cheetah during remodel, COVID, and owner dying, they went to PP lmao.[/QUOTE]Yeah I find amusing. Then there's bottle girls at clubs like Havana (who are there to score clients from the high roller tables) who look down on even Cheetah. These aren't worth going after as they're looking for several G's and fame.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6439495]The PG MD clubs were on the lower end talent-wise. Not what I'm looking for, even if I was into AA's.

[/QUOTE]Just go to any DC club other than Assets if you're comfortable with OTC. It will be "free" just have to take them to specific restaurants.

[QUOTE=RondaColdSon;6439127].

If you know better options you should share so Mcsylv can use those options. It doesn't seem like he wants to build rapport over time and he's looking specifically for a dancer from what it seems.

[/QUOTE]Girls move around so much, it's hard to know who is at what club and if they are still there. Here is my specific experience at PP. I don't go often enough to know the girls on the ground at this moment any more.

Waitress. Just talked to her. Acted like I was interested in her. No money, good looking girl.

Waitress / shooter girl. I talked to her. Treated her like a normal person. No money. Wild girl.

Dancer wanted big time money. Said she had watched me with other girls, which at the time I was spending good money there. Had a girl there that I was infatuated with at the time.

Another dancer from when I was in college. She'd give it up to just about anyone bare if she liked you. I wasn't her type, I just finessed her.

A few other dancers that I just finessed over the years, but they were not in atl.

I moved onto oasis for a while. A few dancers and shooter girls / waitresses there. I salute my wiener cousins from there that I've met in the forums here.

The point is not to share all stories, just the ones that matter. I think finesse will get you a long way in a sc especially in a club with a few dollars. It might not get you 8+ bare at the pp, but it can get you some bare.

I don't think one has to be overly local to get laid. I don't think you have to spend a ton of money. You won't get all women. You'll get enough. Will you get 8+ from the pp? I'd never say never. The dancer in dc was a 10 on everyone's scale, but that was a very special case I stumbled into via sheer luck, right time, right place.

I've always felt that girls in an sc are a game of one on one. It depends much more on the specifics of a girl and how she feels about things. Women decide pretty early on if they will ever have sex with you in these circumstances.

Now, the guys that posted about the aggressive girls at the pp wanting to f, I want to hear more of your stories! You guys are my heroes.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6439495]The PG MD clubs were on the lower end talent-wise. Not what I'm looking for, even if I was into AA's.

[/QUOTE]You should've led with that!

I've been to those "lower end" PG clubs back in the day. All the clubs you listed of interest for black clubs (Pinups, Wax, Blaze) would probably be considered by most as being on the lower end in Atlanta.

And while IMHO the Atlanta clubs are a bit of a notch above those PG clubs, it's still in the same ballpark.

Sounds like you already found what you like in Florida. If it were me, I'd keep going where I know I'm going to have the fun I want.