Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=Ozymandias;2096670]Eh, I've dropped $3 k in a strip club before; I had a blast.

Not to make assertions about the customers at Follies, but many years ago I knew a guy ("Dave L.") who was the main source of "Xtacy" in Atlanta (this was the early 90's, when it was a big thing). He pulled in about $100 k / week cash, but basically didn't exist: he had a group of investors who provided him with a penthouse on top of Club Tower, a porsche 911, and whatever high-ticket material things he needed, because his whole life was off the books; he couldn't invest money, or buy anything requiring paperwork, nothing.

So he just had obscene amounts of cash which didn't really matter, and he blew a bunch of it in strip clubs (mostly The Cheetah, where he was a nightly fixture). It wasn't so much "stupid" as it was "whatever".

Value is subjective. Me? I like eating at Rathbun Steak, where I might drop $100 on a steak, because I really, really appreciate a good steak. Of course, you can buy a sirloin at Waffle House, and so some people will just shake their heads at me ("dude! You could buy a dozen steaks at the WH! It's okay, because we're not really in meaningful competition with each other.

I've never found the "high rollers" at Follies to be any kind of real competition (maybe we just like different types of girls; I go for the spinner types, so maybe they're grabbing the giant-assed twerkers and I'm just not noticing); it's not worth worrying about!

O.[/QUOTE]There are a few problems with what you've just stated.

Your steak analogy is terrible. I like a good steak too. Del Frisco's & Prime 112 are my two favorites. There is a big difference between a steak dinner at Del Frisco's and one at the Waffle House in both service and the actual food being served. So the difference in cost can be justified because the product and services are much better. However, the quality of a dancer is constant. She doesn't look any better when you throw thousands of dollars at her feet. Additionally I would argue that the services they provide are actually negatively affected by the "throw money in the air" crowd. How you say? Because these chicks become lazier as more folks continue to pay them absurd amounts of money to do little to nothing. So they do less for more money because some folks have bid pricing up. This has nothing to do with one individual competing with another. The problem with this stuff is not how it will affect any individual but how it affects this business as a whole.

I'm in my 30's so I don't know what strip clubs were like 20 years ago, but I do remember the mid late 90's. I remember when throwing money in the air at a stripper was just fuckin stupid. However that culture has taken over the scene and I definitely think it has hurt everybody except the lazy girls. I remember club Nikki in Atlanta, or Rolex in Miami. These clubs were legendary! And there was nobody throwing thousands of dollars on the floor. Or even worse there was nobody throwing money at a girls feet and then walking off as if they don't even care to see her dance (I'm sure we've all seen this stupid shit). You know, the money aint a thing... LOL! That was when the baddest chicks were gettin it in and working hard for that money. These days they can literally come to work and stand around while people shower them with money, or some idiot send her money via instagram.

So yeah, it worth worrying about because stupid shit can fuck up the whole thing. It actually has already done some serious damage.

[QUOTE=Phatassluva;2096810]There are a few problems with what you've just stated.

Your steak analogy is terrible. I like a good steak too. Del Frisco's & Prime 112 are my two favorites. There is a big difference between a steak dinner at Del Frisco's and one at the Waffle House in both service and the actual food being served. So the difference in cost can be justified because the product and services are much better. However, the quality of a dancer is constant. She doesn't look any better when you throw thousands of dollars at her feet. Additionally I would argue that the services they provide are actually negatively affected by the "throw money in the air" crowd. How you say? Because these chicks become lazier as more folks continue to pay them absurd amounts of money to do little to nothing. So they do less for more money because some folks have bid pricing up. This has nothing to do with one individual competing with another. The problem with this stuff is not how it will affect any individual but how it affects this business as a whole.

I'm in my 30's so I don't know what strip clubs were like 20 years ago, but I do remember the mid late 90's. I remember when throwing money in the air at a stripper was just fuckin stupid. However that culture has taken over the scene and I definitely think it has hurt everybody except the lazy girls. I remember club Nikki in Atlanta, or Rolex in Miami. These clubs were legendary! And there was nobody throwing thousands of dollars on the floor. Or even worse there was nobody throwing money at a girls feet and then walking off as if they don't even care to see her dance (I'm sure we've all seen this stupid shit). You know, the money aint a thing... LOL! That was when the baddest chicks were gettin it in and working hard for that money. These days they can literally come to work and stand around while people shower them with money, or some idiot send her money via instagram.

So yeah, it worth worrying about because stupid shit can fuck up the whole thing. It actually has already done some serious damage.[/QUOTE]Fair enough!

My basic point, though, was that in my experience (admittedly very subjective), they don't really make the girls "lazy" per se. It's just a "thing" while they're there.

Most of the dancers I know (and I know too many) are still hustling business.

O.

[QUOTE=Ozymandias;2096832]Fair enough!

My basic point, though, was that in my experience (admittedly very subjective), they don't really make the girls "lazy" per se. It's just a "thing" while they're there.

Most of the dancers I know (and I know too many) are still hustling business.

O.[/QUOTE]I like my strip clubs like I like America...do whatever the fuck you want as long as it's not hurting anybody, especially me. If a dude wants to drop thousands in the club, more power to him. Just rent out the VIP room, take whatever chicks you want back there and drown them chicks in dollars. Just don't do that shit on the floor. To me that's just rude. Doing that shit out on the floor affects how the girls around him act. Which in turn affects my experience.

And to abuse your steakhouse analogy, it's like we're both at Prime or Rathbun Steak and because you ordered the $100 steak and I just got the $30 chicken, they take my silverware and give it to you just in case you need extra.

That being said, I stopped by oasis this weekend and got some dances from Layla. I don't know if she's white or mixed or what, but she has the tight body, cute face and perfect see-cups that I love. Think she's a little too tall to be a spinner, but everything's proportioned just like one. She's got a few tats, two on her bikini line that are pretty big and a few scattered around. She says she's in her early 30's but I would swear under oath that she's got a 19 or 20-year-olds body. Only problem is that she can't dance for shit. Just has no idea of how to be sexy during her dances. Seems really timid and what not. Yet every time I see her I can't stop myself from calling her over, hoping that this time everything'll click. And it never does, so yes I'm a dumb ass. But I already knew that otherwise no way would I be paying these chicks the equivalent of $200/ hr when I my financial planner doesn't even get that much!

[QUOTE=Bobbyj29;2097636]I like my strip clubs like I like America...do whatever the fuck you want as long as it's not hurting anybody, especially me. If a dude wants to drop thousands in the club, more power to him. Just rent out the VIP room, take whatever chicks you want back there and drown them chicks in dollars. Just don't do that shit on the floor. To me that's just rude. Doing that shit out on the floor affects how the girls around him act. Which in turn affects my experience.

And to abuse your steakhouse analogy, it's like we're both at Prime or Rathbun Steak and because you ordered the $100 steak and I just got the $30 chicken, they take my silverware and give it to you just in case you need extra.

That being said, I stopped by oasis this weekend and got some dances from Layla. I don't know if she's white or mixed or what, but she has the tight body, cute face and perfect see-cups that I love. Think she's a little too tall to be a spinner, but everything's proportioned just like one. She's got a few tats, two on her bikini line that are pretty big and a few scattered around. She says she's in her early 30's but I would swear under oath that she's got a 19 or 20-year-olds body. Only problem is that she can't dance for shit. Just has no idea of how to be sexy during her dances. Seems really timid and what not. Yet every time I see her I can't stop myself from calling her over, hoping that this time everything'll click. And it never does, so yes I'm a dumb ass. But I already knew that otherwise no way would I be paying these chicks the equivalent of $200/ hr when I my financial planner doesn't even get that much![/QUOTE]I don't know about the analogies, I don't eat steak. But it is pretty easy. I don't like to stay too far from around the Follies rates, I want to have a good time, and don't want to blast all my funds. Follies seems to be a set rate with not much haggling of 150 for the 30 minutes. A lot of clubs north will allow you to haggle, they have a set minimum of 120 and the sky is the limit for the girl. Typically, you might do 120+100,220. Tattletales (at least seems like) a minimum of 300 and your mileage may vary. And then you add in tips and all of that. It actually kind of sucks because there is a lot of distance between a great time and poor lapdance vip.

The sad part about Follies (at least recently), I can't any good mileage with some girls. Some are pretty cool, but some are, "the managers are watching, the managers are watching". Some clubs you spend 300 and they hustle you. Some will do 100 house and 20 for the girl and fk you silly. It is a little too hit or miss for me to be honest. I start asking questions, got a condom? What are we getting in there? Even that is no guarantees.

Strip clubs are expensive, it is one of those, do it for a couple of months or year and quit while you can. Or if you are smart, do it forever.

But yea, I usually try to do just one good VIP so I like to be choosy. Mardi gras does a 15 minute VIP for 100 total but your mileage sucks.

I went to Kamals 21 or what ever, the girls were only topless, I had to pay to park, they also only offered table dances WTF? I just moved to Georgia are there any totally nude strip clubs that give real lap dances close to midtown? Oh yeah not too ratchet, not trying to get shot or hit by flying beer bottles.

[QUOTE=Galtor;2099794]I don't know about the analogies, I don't eat steak. But it is pretty easy. I don't like to stay too far from around the Follies rates, I want to have a good time, and don't want to blast all my funds. Follies seems to be a set rate with not much haggling of 150 for the 30 minutes. A lot of clubs north will allow you to haggle, they have a set minimum of 120 and the sky is the limit for the girl. Typically, you might do 120+100,220. Tattletales (at least seems like) a minimum of 300 and your mileage may vary. And then you add in tips and all of that. It actually kind of sucks because there is a lot of distance between a great time and poor lapdance vip.

The sad part about Follies (at least recently), I can't any good mileage with some girls. Some are pretty cool, but some are, "the managers are watching, the managers are watching". Some clubs you spend 300 and they hustle you. Some will do 100 house and 20 for the girl and fk you silly. It is a little too hit or miss for me to be honest. I start asking questions, got a condom? What are we getting in there? Even that is no guarantees.

Strip clubs are expensive, it is one of those, do it for a couple of months or year and quit while you can. Or if you are smart, do it forever.

But yea, I usually try to do just one good VIP so I like to be choosy. Mardi gras does a 15 minute VIP for 100 total but your mileage sucks.[/QUOTE]Oh, VIPs are certainly hardly efficient or cost-effective. In that sense, an escort is always going to be a better deal, 100% of the time.

The whole idea of VIP is just the fun of tagging a stripper in the club. It's like the Mile-High Club: few things are less pleasant than fucking in an airplane bathroom (or wherever in a plane), but you do it just to mark it off.

(I will say also that quite a few times my VIP trysts have led to freebie or even long-term fuck buddy arrangements OTC, so there are efficiencies in that).

O.

[QUOTE=Ozymandias;2099808]Oh, VIPs are certainly hardly efficient or cost-effective. In that sense, an escort is always going to be a better deal, 100% of the time.

The whole idea of VIP is just the fun of tagging a stripper in the club. It's like the Mile-High Club: few things are less pleasant than fucking in an airplane bathroom (or wherever in a plane), but you do it just to mark it off.

(I will say also that quite a few times my VIP trysts have led to freebie or even long-term fuck buddy arrangements OTC, so there are efficiencies in that).

O.[/QUOTE]I always felt like strip club addiction had too many syllables. I like gambling addiction. We are basically gambling for a good time. And once you put down your entry fee, there are no guarantees.

[QUOTE=Galtor;2099882]I always felt like strip club addiction had too many syllables. I like gambling addiction. We are basically gambling for a good time. And once you put down your entry fee, there are no guarantees.[/QUOTE]In many ways I preferred the old days where strippers were just strippers, not prostitutes.

Go to the club with some friends, have some drinks, get some dances (on tables, maybe), chat with the girls, get hustled at pool by a stripper pool shark, and go home. A more innocent era.

Of course, once the bar has been raised there's no going back!

O.

[QUOTE=Ozymandias;2099808]Oh, VIPs are certainly hardly efficient or cost-effective. In that sense, an escort is always going to be a better deal, 100% of the time.

The whole idea of VIP is just the fun of tagging a stripper in the club. It's like the Mile-High Club: few things are less pleasant than fucking in an airplane bathroom (or wherever in a plane), but you do it just to mark it off.

(I will say also that quite a few times my VIP trysts have led to freebie or even long-term fuck buddy arrangements OTC, so there are efficiencies in that).

O.[/QUOTE]How true. They are too impersonal and not really feeling succesful, just money spent for; well we know what for.

A newbie in this forum. I was curious if any one has had VIP experience with Gia at follies. She offered everything but did not take the plunge. She works day shift and is hispanic.

[QUOTE=Mikega123;2103515]A newbie in this forum. I was curious if any one has had VIP experience with Gia at follies. She offered everything but did not take the plunge. She works day shift and is hispanic.[/QUOTE]That chick is cool, as cool can get. She's really laid back and up front with you, I love her attitude, not to mention sexy as hell with a pretty pussy. You should have taken the plunge, or asked her for takeout. Most importantly though, you should remember to post about your experience, so us perverts (or dirty old men), won't think you're the "donut brigade", LOL!

Happened to swing by Shooter, a couple days ago, around 10. Seems they're working on their variety of girls. It was your regular black and hispanic crew, plus there were about 6 white girls, and one had the biggest azz, I've seen in awhile. Did I mention she could clap that thing? I love the laid back lounge vibe they have and a decent mix of music. I must be getting old, can't stand all the hippitty skippitty crap any more. No wonder Follies' bouncers outnumber customers, LOL! Did I mention she clapped the living daylights, out that thing? I'm in love!

What does Gia look like? The name brings back memories. Did she advertise on CL back the day?

[QUOTE=DeWalt;2103806]That chick is cool, as cool can get.
She's really laid back and up front with you, I love her attitude, not to mention sexy as hell with a pretty pussy. You should have taken the plunge, or asked her for takeout. Most importantly though, you should remember to post about your experience, so us perverts (or dirty old men), won't think you're the "donut brigade", LOL![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Member#2227;2103844]What does Gia look like? The name brings back memories. Did she advertise on CL back the day?[/QUOTE]Light skinned hispanic, possibly Puerto Rican, about 5'2", 110 lbs. I've never seen her on CL, but I think she worked at Shooter Alley a couple years ago. Just ask if she's working, I don't see her that often, kinda hit or miss.

[QUOTE=DeWalt;2103806]That chick is cool, as cool can get. She's really laid back and up front with you, I love her attitude, not to mention sexy as hell with a pretty pussy. You should have taken the plunge, or asked her for takeout. Most importantly though, you should remember to post about your experience, so us perverts (or dirty old men), won't think you're the "donut brigade", LOL![/QUOTE]Thats great news. Dances were not really follies quality which made me avoid the VIP trip. Will hit her up next time I see and will report back the experience for sure.