The Rat Trap

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Below is her text to me.

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Specified I do one price not into upsale.

The response was respect me.

I call bullshit.

You fall for this you are crazy, never see provider that puts this in text message.

Escort gator is filled with prepay scammers.

Once I asked for a verification photo the guy answered me in Yoruba. An African African language. Here it is -- Oni Kure oloribu omo ti o ni iya.

The ones that said I look like photos, can not meet in lobby.

No verification photo no go.

One was close to me, so meet her in the lobby.

She was right the photos were her, 10 years 5 kids and 100 lbs ago.

Could not win on the sites yesterday.

Contacted 5 of them, e looked good but wanted 250 to 400. Hr.

Talk about gps, good God.

When it comes to utr's on this site I only request recent picture and not a verify photo.

If they have been reviewed by certain members I know the review is accurate.

I just do not want to pay gps rates, so I just specify it is to high for me today and thank them.

Address they are using.

7931 Daetwyler Drive, Orlando, Florida 32812🏨La quinta Inn.

My servers go through VPN's I send a hyper link looks like normal text.

Every single advertisement was an over prepay scammer.

Gator is completely useless.

You start conversation with some text.

Response is:

Where are you located.

Where are you coming from.

What part of town are you in.

What is your zip code.

What city are you in.

Usually followed by.

Cheap rates.

How much time do you need.

Can you spend more then 3 hours.

Dangerous ones you should never answer.

Send me your address.

I want a picture of you.

Send me a dick pic.

Send me your Facebook.

Send me your LinkedIn.

Let do a video chat.

Has anyone fallen for this?

The popup at the bottom of the webpage tries to insert a malicious DNS.

Only happens on my win 10 box not my Linux or Android.

It is the one with the multiple buttons including BDSM at top left corner when it first pops up.

Annoying.

They now list the advertisements on Conway.

All are overseas scammers.

I get the scammers to reveal there true location.

Sometime I do a reverse scam an get money from them.

You just have to use there greed.

[QUOTE=Carlosa;6317629]I get the scammers to reveal there true location.

Sometime I do a reverse scam an get money from them.

You just have to use there greed.[/QUOTE]Man, you're just in here having a whole conversation with yourself, huh?

If I meet someone for the first time, I set a ten-minute timer when I arrive at the location. If the chime rings, I leave. If the lady is someone I have seen before, I have my rating system for how long I will wait, depending on how badly I want to see them.

So the other night, I was sitting in the car waiting for one of my ATFs to tell me it was alright to hear the room. I had been waiting for 25 minutes (would up being 40 minutes total), but I had been through it before, and she is worth waiting for, IMHO.

My question to everyone is this, what are your rating parameters for waiting in the car for the OK signal? Instead of one to 10 stars, do you start at 5 minutes and work up from there? What's the longest you will wait for a particular lady?

As you can see, my mind is a place best not ventured into alone!

Bertox.

[QUOTE=Bertox50;6320161]If I meet someone for the first time, I set a ten-minute timer when I arrive at the location. If the chime rings, I leave. If the lady is someone I have seen before, I have my rating system for how long I will wait, depending on how badly I want to see them.

So the other night, I was sitting in the car waiting for one of my ATFs to tell me it was alright to hear the room. I had been waiting for 25 minutes (would up being 40 minutes total), but I had been through it before, and she is worth waiting for, IMHO.

My question to everyone is this, what are your rating parameters for waiting in the car for the OK signal? Instead of one to 10 stars, do you start at 5 minutes and work up from there? What's the longest you will wait for a particular lady?

As you can see, my mind is a place best not ventured into alone!

Bertox.[/QUOTE]Someone new. No more than 10 minutes after start time, but I always arrive at least 10 minutes early and tell them I'm there. I'm parked slightly away watching as much of the hotel as I can. This is all not true if there are very well reviewed on here, but someone really new.

Waiting for someone I know, I usually don't have issues because I know what their delay is and factor that into my "arrival" time. Longest I've ever waited was 25 minutes. I have gone back if I'm in particular need and a desire for that particular person, but rarely actual waiting.

[QUOTE=Witnessing;6320457]Someone new. No more than 10 minutes after start time, but I always arrive at least 10 minutes early and tell them I'm there. I'm parked slightly away watching as much of the hotel as I can. This is all not true if there are very well reviewed on here, but someone really new.

Waiting for someone I know, I usually don't have issues because I know what their delay is and factor that into my "arrival" time. Longest I've ever waited was 25 minutes. I have gone back if I'm in particular need and a desire for that particular person, but rarely actual waiting.[/QUOTE]I'm glad I posted this; I've rarely thought to "bake" some time into my arrival when I know the provider and that she will probably make me wait a bit. I will start doing this. Of course, I am kicking myself in the ass now for not thinking that one up on my own.

Thanks, Witness!

This particular scam uses the Venmo prepay.

Found out the lady talked with one of the guys in the video.

Each one of these guys were stupid enough to prepay with Venmo.

What the scammers do is they get the funds and say meet me at this address.

This is why you never meet at private address, always get a verify photo.

This is the link.

[URL]https://youtu.be/PR0FXNB9sto[/URL]

[QUOTE=Carlosa;6323915]This particular scam uses the Venmo prepay.

Found out the lady talked with one of the guys in the video.

Each one of these guys were stupid enough to prepay with Venmo.

What the scammers do is they get the funds and say meet me at this address.

This is why you never meet at private address, always get a verify photo.

This is the link.

[URL]https://youtu.be/PR0FXNB9sto[/URL][/QUOTE]Funny story on the video. Good reveal of how scammer can operate.

I usually have no problem going to a private residence. If I am not comfortable with the area, I may pass. Also, if she doesn't match her pic, I may or may not stay. I will even tell them that in advance that if they don't look anything like their pic they sent, that I will leave and will waste your time.

What I will add is that, to me, the thing that's more important than not going to a strange address is understanding that this video shows you why you should Never pay a cent in advance. No matter what. If they had never paid, they would never have shown up to a strange place with no reward.

No doubt the innocent lady in the video is brave to face these dumb asses. However, if the lady was really smart, she would have contacted the guys that are running the scam and worked it out to get a cut of all the action. All while still playing the victim at home. LOL.

Grain 56.

[QUOTE=Carlosa;6323915]This particular scam uses the Venmo prepay.

Found out the lady talked with one of the guys in the video.

Each one of these guys were stupid enough to prepay with Venmo.

What the scammers do is they get the funds and say meet me at this address.

This is why you never meet at private address, always get a verify photo.

This is the link.

[URL]https://youtu.be/PR0FXNB9sto[/URL][/QUOTE]I heard about this on the radio on Thursday. I wonder who this woman pissed off to make her the target of this. I find it hard to believe her address was randomly picked, but I guess its possible. Don't blame her for packing heat now. So guy gets pissed and starts talking shit. Definitely a lesson for all of us here and there's lots of good advice from our monger bros.

[QUOTE=VeronicaX;6325237]Decided to stop by as I got out of work early....blah, blah, blah...Walked in and was told 1 4 0 coins for 30 min....blah, blah blah... Turning over, she started sucking dick in a most enjoyable way...as well as fingering my ass...blah, blah, blah...All of this activity was very enjoyable, but none of these thing will get me to climax. Old age stopes it from happening...What a wonderful ending.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=VeronicaX;6325601]No need for your sarcasm or jealousy. Ask them why they gave me a freebie next time you go.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=VeronicaX;6324690]Went to MM yesterday to see if I can get another free session. Went for the first time last week, and the lady up front said I was super handsome and that it's on her. Was expecting the same yesterday...She complimented...but stuck out her hand for the Mario coins. Damn it. ...I walked.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=VeronicaX;6323984]Another guy who believes he made the girl at MM have an O. Crazy how well they fake it![/QUOTE][QUOTE=VeronicaX;6320631]Next time you go, ask her. It was my first time and she didn't accept my Mario coins. Next time I go, I'll be bringing 4 OO sonic rings to make up for it. Money is not an issue to me. Glad she found me very attractive though.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=VeronicaX;6320625]Don't blame him. You've been known to go over the top with your reviews on MM here. So whenever you do speak on MM, we all take it with a grain of salt. Have a great day and be safe, brother.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=VeronicaX;6320627]Enter Eden on Hoffner and Semoran is trash. Ugly ghetto girls too.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=VeronicaX;6319871]Trash place. 340 coins for FS and the girls sometimes keep shirt on. Cherry did. And she rushed me out. Don't waste your money.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=VeronicaX;6319868]Seen Sophia a couple of times. Trust me. She's a great actor. Unfortunately, it's all just an act.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=VeronicaX;6319400]First time this morning at MM and Kiki or whatever her name is (the boss lady) said I look very handsome and I don't have to give 2. OO mario coins. That first visit is free for me. Has this ever happened to anyone? For the record, I am above average in looks.[/QUOTE]Poor monger (blank) aka VeronicaX. He gots his wittle fweewings hurt recently. Now he's created a new moniker to become a troll on the Threads. All so he can try to get back at everyone. It's not to easy to figure out who it is. That big money spender he is. Of course, he doesn't need to spend that cash, he gets all his for free. LOL.

Don't feed the Trolls. He will shrivel up and fade away soon enough.

Grain 56.

P.S. I have it on good faith that he won't read this, as he apparently has a self-admitted problem reading more then a sentence or two.

#1 - I do feel for the lady who lives at the house. I might put a sign out saying "Nikki doesn't love you and you have been scammed" or something.

#2 - stupid oughta hurt and these guys are really long on stupid.

#3 - I have never had an issue with meeting a provider at a private residence. Then again, I never see providers who are not well reviewed by some of you guys.

C3.

[QUOTE=Carlosa;6323915]This particular scam uses the Venmo prepay.

Found out the lady talked with one of the guys in the video.

Each one of these guys were stupid enough to prepay with Venmo.

What the scammers do is they get the funds and say meet me at this address.

This is why you never meet at private address, always get a verify photo.

This is the link.

[URL]https://youtu.be/PR0FXNB9sto[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Grain56;6326197]Poor monger (blank) aka VeronicaX. He gots his wittle fweewings hurt recently. Now he's created a new moniker to become a troll on the Threads. All so he can try to get back at everyone. It's not to easy to figure out who it is. That big money spender he is. Of course, he doesn't need to spend that cash, he gets all his for free. LOL.

Don't feed the Trolls. He will shrivel up and fade away soon enough.

Grain 56.

P.S. I have it on good faith that he won't read this, as he apparently has a self-admitted problem reading more then a sentence or two.[/QUOTE]This fucktard has been doing this for a while and has changed handles at least 6 times. MarthaQuinn, LittleBig, OldFat, HillaryClinton, TrumpBiden and now VeronicaX. I really think this dumbass thinks he's fooling us.

He used their up address to dycyfer who they were and just delete old them or blocked up.

[QUOTE=Carlosa;6313745]Address they are using.

7931 Daetwyler Drive, Orlando, Florida 32812🏨La quinta Inn.

My servers go through VPN's I send a hyper link looks like normal text.

Every single advertisement was an over prepay scammer.

Gator is completely useless.[/QUOTE]100% agree. Almost all on Gator and other sites are now the "Pre-Pay" depost scammers, and not just here, but all cities, even Macon, ATL, etc. Really hard to figure out who is ligit. Ditto on other sites, even What's Your Price. It requires a lot of due-diligence to decipher what is real. Thank goodness for this site to help! .

[QUOTE=Batman6969;6328771]This fucktard has been doing this for a while and has changed handles at least 6 times. MarthaQuinn, LittleBig, OldFat, HillaryClinton, TrumpBiden and now VeronicaX. I really think this dumbass thinks he's fooling us.[/QUOTE]Is A1 now has added a little note under her user name, she probably hasn't even noticed it yet the dumb ass, LOL. And sure will go under her future user names!

This one is my favorite.

It sends a picture specifying rubmd wants you to prepay.

Do not fall for this.

You know some people will.

This is the advertisement and screenshots.

[URL]https://rubmd.com/orlando-fl/9a7a98aa-32c0-43db-a885-b16befdbf95a[/URL]

[QUOTE=AskYourWife;6339756]Hey Grain, one of your girls is by Best Buy by the Florida Mall Begging for car dates. I don't do 40 dollar dates as I actually have money. Go help her out![/QUOTE]Looks like VeronicaX and all the other names Batman mentions below is back again with a new screen name. Now he's AskYourWife. LOL.

[QUOTE=Batman6969;6328771]VeronicaX: This fucktard has been doing this for a while and has changed handles at least 6 times. MarthaQuinn, LittleBig, OldFat, HillaryClinton, TrumpBiden and now VeronicaX. I really think this dumbass thinks he's fooling us.[/QUOTE]The 5 posts AskYourWife posted (one already flagged) today since creating his newest screen name, scream of his typical inferior-monger self's banter. Too bad this guy is so jealous of others because he has to spend big, big money to get the same thing others can get for much less. It takes skill to get $200+ worth of quality time for less than $100 as can do. Just because you can't do it, don't criticize others. More money does NOT mean higher quality in all circumstances as your Butt-Hurt self thinks.

Besides you know the old adage you old Rockefeller you, A Fool and His Money are Soon Parted.

My belief in your case and more appropriate for your situation is that, A Real Fool and His Money were Lucky to even get together in the First Place.

Finally, you really have no right to tell me how to do my mongering job. I don't ever interfere with you being able to execute your skills by coming down to where you work and slapping the Dicks out of your mouth.

Grain 56.

[QUOTE=Grain56;6326197]Poor monger (blank) aka VeronicaX. He gots his wittle fweewings hurt recently. Now he's created a new moniker to become a troll on the Threads. All so he can try to get back at everyone. It's not to easy to figure out who it is. That big money spender he is. Of course, he doesn't need to spend that cash, he gets all his for free. LOL.

Don't feed the Trolls. He will shrivel up and fade away soon enough.

Grain 56....[/QUOTE]

Saw Gina earlier today, first time with her and she didn't disappoint. After I got lunch down the road, when I was driving back I saw two marked and likely one unmarked LEO's in the lot. Just a heads up.

I went to MM this morning & had their new girl Cindy. After that I had lunch nearby. I drove past MM twice.

I can confirm that no LEO at MM. Everything normal.

[QUOTE=MaskedPeter;6354064]I went to MM this morning & had their new girl Cindy. After that I had lunch nearby. I drove past MM twice.

I can confirm that no LEO at MM. Everything normal.[/QUOTE]This was around 2 pm. Not trying to punk anyone. Maybe they didn't even go in, just figured I dodged a bullet.

[QUOTE=JoeyJoeJoe11;6353955]Saw Gina earlier today, first time with her and she didn't disappoint. After I got lunch down the road, when I was driving back I saw two marked and likely one unmarked LEO's in the lot. Just a heads up.[/QUOTE]Great guy, 1st post ever and its to warn us about one of the established great spots. . hmmm.

[QUOTE=DirkDig1;6354110]Great guy, 1st post ever and its to warn us about one of the established great spots. . hmmm.[/QUOTE]Feel free to ignore it if you want, I don't care. They were definitely there. Just a PSA from a long time lurker.

I visited MM this morning around 11:45 am. Did not see LEO at MM.

I finished & walked back to my car after 12:30 pm. Did not see LEO at MM.

I drove 15 minutes to a nearby restaurant and had lunch with a friend. Waited 20 minutes for a table. Finished lunch in 1 hour. It was around 2:05 pm. Drove past MM before 2:20 pm. Did not see LEO at MM.

I was shopping in this area when I read the report. I decided to check it out. I drover pass MM again just before 3 pm. Did not see LEO at MM.

[QUOTE=MaskedPeter;6354460]I visited MM this morning around 11:45 am. Did not see LEO at MM.

I finished & walked back to my car after 12:30 pm. Did not see LEO at MM.

I drove 15 minutes to a nearby restaurant and had lunch with a friend. Waited 20 minutes for a table. Finished lunch in 1 hour. It was around 2:05 pm. Drove past MM before 2:20 pm. Did not see LEO at MM.

I was shopping in this area when I read the report. I decided to check it out. I drover pass MM again just before 3 pm. Did not see LEO at MM.[/QUOTE]Well then, case closed. You seem to be good at keeping time, and doth protest too much.

I saw two white marked SUV's in the front two left spots with a third vehicle next to them. Maybe they just stopped for 5 minutes, I don't know.

Feel free to go back there. I'm going to avoid it.

[QUOTE=JoeyJoeJoe11;6354825]Well then, case closed. You seem to be good at keeping time, and doth protest too much.

I saw two white marked SUV's in the front two left spots with a third vehicle next to them. Maybe they just stopped for 5 minutes, I don't know.

Feel free to go back there. I'm going to avoid it.[/QUOTE]I saw Erica at MM yesterday around lunchtime. Awesome girl BTW. She mentioned it was her first day there. Anyway when I wrapped up, which must've been a little before 2, there was one marked SUV parked backed in (facing MM) at the smoke shop in one of the spaces closest to the road. Not sure what it was about. I just went about my business.

[QUOTE=New2Jax;6354907]Stop being lazy, just read the board. Only 3-4 pages will do or maybe go back a couple months. Takes all of 20 min.[/QUOTE]Lets re-read what I said. I don't want to waste time trying out my guesses from the forums. If anyone else has some positive feedback for my trip, like the other 2 kind mongers that actually PMed me with tips, please feel free to do so! It's very clear MM and BO are popular. And most people go for 2 pops with BBBJ and back home we have nothing like that. Like the admins say, if you have a problem with what I'm posting, please PM me also.

"I am entitled to be spoon fed everything, I am not even a senior member yet but you should not make me do any work whatsoever."

Look dude, you have the basic info, and so much more is available IF you take a little time. You should definitely NOT go to MM, CB, or BO as your attitude there, if like here on this board, may sour things for the rest of us. Good luck out there.

[QUOTE=ItsAllGreat570;6355993]Lets re-read what I said. I don't want to waste time trying out my guesses from the forums. If anyone else has some positive feedback for my trip, like the other 2 kind mongers that actually PMed me with tips, please feel free to do so! It's very clear MM and BO are popular. And most people go for 2 pops with BBBJ and back home we have nothing like that. Like the admins say, if you have a problem with what I'm posting, please PM me also.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ItsAllGreat570;6355993]Lets re-read what I said. I don't want to waste time trying out my guesses from the forums. If anyone else has some positive feedback for my trip, like the other 2 kind mongers that actually PMed me with tips, please feel free to do so! It's very clear MM and BO are popular. And most people go for 2 pops with BBBJ and back home we have nothing like that. Like the admins say, if you have a problem with what I'm posting, please PM me also.[/QUOTE]I live here and don't ask, I read posts. It is not that hard to do.

I'm posting this in The Rat Trap because I no longer want to keep posting in the UTR section and get my account moderated or banned outright.

Jenna decided that calling my 85 and 90-year-old parents and scaring the crap out of them with all this would be a great idea, so she did just that. No, I am not kidding. That she knows my parents should give you more insight into the relationship we once shared.

So now I am changing my plans and heading north earlier than planned, but I still have many of Jenna's belongings here. If anyone is in contact with her, let her know that she can arrange to get the stuff as long as it is before 2:30 PM tomorrow. If Jenna doesn't want to contact me, she can contact Roxy.

Thanks,

Bertox.

[QUOTE=Bertox50;6356871]I'm posting this in The Rat Trap because I no longer want to keep posting in the UTR section and get my account moderated or banned outright.

Jenna decided that calling my 85 and 90-year-old parents and scaring the crap out of them with all this would be a great idea, so she did just that. No, I am not kidding. That she knows my parents should give you more insight into the relationship we once shared.

So now I am changing my plans and heading north earlier than planned, but I still have many of Jenna's belongings here. If anyone is in contact with her, let her know that she can arrange to get the stuff as long as it is before 2:30 PM tomorrow. If Jenna doesn't want to contact me, she can contact Roxy.

Thanks,

Bertox.[/QUOTE]Forget this; not only did she call my family, but now Jenna's drug dealer just contacted me to ask if he could swing by and get the syringes she left behind. Not all the stuff she left behind, just the needles. If it hadn't happened, I wouldn't have believed it possible. Roxy and I laughed about it; it's either that or tearing my hair out. This is a nightmare that seems like it will never end.

Bertox.

[QUOTE=Bertox50;6357036]Forget this; not only did she call my family, but now Jenna's drug dealer just contacted me to ask if he could swing by and get the syringes she left behind. Not all the stuff she left behind, just the needles. If it hadn't happened, I wouldn't have believed it possible. Roxy and I laughed about it; it's either that or tearing my hair out. This is a nightmare that seems like it will never end.

Bertox.[/QUOTE]The less the provider knows about you the better.

There is absolutely nothing stopping them from blackmailing you or worse.

My advice to you my brother is tell your parents it someone you do not know and have never meet.

If you were smart and used a burner phone and not your real phone, tell her if she contacts you or your family again I will get the police involved.

I am sure your parole officer is not going to like that.

You have to be very vicious in these situations or they will walk all over you.

My 2 c.

[QUOTE=Carlosa;6357761]The less the provider knows about you the better.

There is absolutely nothing stopping them from blackmailing you or worse.

My advice to you my brother is tell your parents it someone you do not know and have never meet.

If you were smart and used a burner phone and not your real phone, tell her if she contacts you or your family again I will get the police involved.

I am sure your parole officer is not going to like that.

You have to be very vicious in these situations or they will walk all over you.

My 2 c.[/QUOTE]Carlo,

It would be difficult to tell my parents I don't know her; she has been to their house for dinner, a birthday party, and boat rides and has slept there for a few nights. My parents welcomed her into their home. Jenna and I did not have a typical escort / monger relationship, or she wouldn't have my personal information. That's something that will never happen again.

As for using a burner phone to threaten her, I have no desire to hide from her; if she bothers my family again, I will have them file a report with the police. That will be just one more thing she'll have to answer for when the police finally catch up with her. Jenna is out of my life; that was the ultimate goal.

It would be best not to let people know your personal information in this hobby, and I know how that can be turned against you. It can be dangerous when you do things like letting them have your actual phone number, rent hotel rooms in your name (especially when forwarding them the reservation confirmation via email), bringing them to your home out in the sticks (who knows what they might tell others about your home), allowing them access to your computer, and letting them text / call others from your phone are all examples of things you should never do. But as we both know, there are mongers out there that do these things and put themselves in danger.

Bertox.

Is that our favorite lady friends, while fun & deserving of basic respect, are not real people. Shoes belong at the door. Dogs belong outside. And *Tony Soprano voice*, Hoors, belong to the streets. So long as everyone goes by the script & sticks to their lines, we all win.

[QUOTE=New2Jax;6356323]"I am entitled to be spoon fed everything, I am not even a senior member yet but you should not make me do any work whatsoever."

Look dude, you have the basic info, and so much more is available IF you take a little time. You should definitely NOT go to MM, CB, or BO as your attitude there, if like here on this board, may sour things for the rest of us. Good luck out there.[/QUOTE]Well there are plenty of other posts similar to mine, "hey I'm from out of town, any tips would be great!" And you are jumping on me. No wonder I have a horrible attitude towards you? I will be going to those places actually. And I hope I take your girl while you wait in line. Can't wait to report back!