"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Revvo;1896352]My bad. I thought there was some references on a previous post about giving gifts,"romantic" gestures, doing a majority of the chores, etc. And the inference that you were not getting anything back for this. But I was mistaken. I must tell you though, if that was me doing all of that I would expect something from her. Especially since I am paying the bills also.[/QUOTE]Oh, no, not your bad. You are correct in that I made references in earlier posts to my "model husbandom", but I think you misread the context. And I can see where you got the inferences, but if they were there it was unintentional.

In my case, I don't expect anything back from my contributions besides a healthy relationship. Any non-sexual imbalances and issues in the relationship are, as I referred to in earlier posts, are a combination of life circumstance, personalities, and personal limitations. All of which are pretty well understood and acknowledged problems, and are works in progress in one form or another. Those stresses aren't so much relationship-threatening as they are just more things that would (for me) be helped by a more active and fulfilling sex life.

[QUOTE=Revvo;1896352]If this is really a libido thing. I am sorry to hear that. That seems like a really hard road to go down. I really don't know if there is anything you can do about that.[/QUOTE]Sadly, I think it is that simple. And is not helped that her reaction to the aforementioned life stresses is to shy away from sex.

[QUOTE=Revvo;1896352]On another point. I will tell you this though. I would definitely have another one of those sit down neutral conversations and talk about her coldness and nasty comments. That is inexcusable regardless of her lack of libido. And that alone will create resentment in you. And that will kill any sexual attraction.[/QUOTE]Yes, at the right moment that would probably be worth a try. They are almost certainly not intended to be nasty, she probably just doesn't realize the sting that the brush-offs have. As such it should be fairly easy for her to laugh them off or play along just to get one source of negativity off the table.

[QUOTE=Revvo; 1896242]Are you sure about that? I hate to be the one sounding like a prude here. But I think it would be easier to ask my wife for the open marriage thing than to have sex with both a wife and a daughter at the same time. LOL Can anyone say incest?

I would be careful with this one.[/QUOTE]


Why did you have to go and ruined another man's wet dreams? :)

Aren't we all sexual deviants around here. LOL.

And BTW, it's the mom and daughter, NOT wife and daughter.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr; 1895768]I hope your trip goes better than mine did with that one my brother. YMMV.

SubCmdr out[/QUOTE]



Good to see you back around Sub.

[QUOTE=Walruscl;1896370].Yes, at the right moment that would probably be worth a try. They are almost certainly not intended to be nasty, she probably just doesn't realize the sting that the brush-offs have. As such it should be fairly easy for her to laugh them off or play along just to get one source of negativity off the table.[/QUOTE]Have you considered your SO is going thru the 'change of life'? If she is, I will tell you it's the most crazy experience you'll ever go thru. #1) You'll can't win. So don't try #2) Stay silent. She'll likely move to another subject soon and the current issue will be history. And the most important #3) Stay silent. Because her moods change so quickly, so do the issues. #4) Stay silent. She won't remember how crazy she was. Won't do you any good to bring it up. (Well, if you're lucky she'll remember once or twice a year. And you'll be rewarded for your patience.)

[QUOTE=Revvo;1896242]Are you sure about that? I hate to be the one sounding like a prude here. But I think it would be easier to ask my wife for the open marriage thing than to have sex with both a wife and a daughter at the same time. LOL Can anyone say incest?.[/QUOTE]I would agree if it was wife / daughter, but since its mother / daughter (no relation) I recommend 'full steam ahead'.

I met a tall slim cutie last night for a m&g. Things were going great until she mentioned that she is a freak in the bedroom and will do almost anything. Normally that is not a problem, but she then tells me that an ex hooked her up on Friday and she has a 3some coming up this Friday. In the car she had me to pull out the TiggaStick so she could make sure he was big and thick enough. We have negotiated $600 per month, meeting twice a week and she is willing to drive to me. She just got a new apt, still mainly unfurnished and she seemed very genuine. I did check her picsd and phone online so she is not a pro. I guess I just wish she would have kept that other info to herself.

Am I being overly dramatic / sensitive?

5'8 120 lbs. 8.5 face. 8.8 body. 9 personality, skills 10 (according to her)

BigTigg

[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1896812]I met a tall slim cutie last night for a m&g. Things were going great until she mentioned that she is a freak in the bedroom and will do almost anything. Normally that is not a problem, but she then tells me that an ex hooked her up on Friday and she has a 3some coming up this Friday. In the car she had me to pull out the TiggaStick so she could make sure he was big and thick enough. We have negotiated $600 per month, meeting twice a week and she is willing to drive to me. She just got a new apt, still mainly unfurnished and she seemed very genuine. I did check her picsd and phone online so she is not a pro. I guess I just wish she would have kept that other info to herself.

Am I being overly dramatic / sensitive?

5'8 120 lbs. 8.5 face. 8.8 body. 9 personality, skills 10 (according to her)

BigTigg[/QUOTE]BT, I think you are being normal. I think most of us like to be the big dog if not the only dog in our partners' lives, I know I do. That is just the way it is. I would be turned off by a SB's overt Nymphomania unless I am the only recipient of that passion. At the least, I don't want to know about it. My ATF talks about hating monogamy and liking sex when she wants it. But she doesn't talk about all the other guys she is banging at the moment. I'm allowed to imagine that I am the only one. Since I demand BareBack, if the SB is riding me bare it would make sense that she would also ride others, so your exposure to STDs is significant. She does talk about previous experiences and even that bothers me. If a girl is banging a bunch of guys that puts her into the hooker category (if for $$) or at least the s*l*u*t* zone if she gives it up for free. Double standard? Absolutely!

" It would be insane to care if your SO had a lover if you are in the Bowl in my opinion. How in the world could you justify that? Nostra"

Double Standard is alive and well with me anyway. I don't want a hooker anymore although they are easier and cheaper than a SB. And, the reason most of us are in the Bowl is because our SOs are not taking care of business at home, and are not as sexual as we want them to be.

[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1896812]I met a tall slim cutie last night for a m&g. Things were going great until she mentioned that she is a freak in the bedroom and will do almost anything. Normally that is not a problem, but she then tells me that an ex hooked her up on Friday and she has a 3some coming up this Friday. In the car she had me to pull out the TiggaStick so she could make sure he was big and thick enough. We have negotiated $600 per month, meeting twice a week and she is willing to drive to me. She just got a new apt, still mainly unfurnished and she seemed very genuine. I did check her picsd and phone online so she is not a pro. I guess I just wish she would have kept that other info to herself.

Am I being overly dramatic / sensitive?

5'8 120 lbs. 8.5 face. 8.8 body. 9 personality, skills 10 (according to her)

BigTigg[/QUOTE]I understand the concern. But maybe your are being too sensitive. Hell I will take her if you are too worried LOL. I look for all kinds of indication that my babies are fucking around when I am not there. And I look at everything I can to see if they are lying to me. So far with the regular trio I am doing right now. I have not seen one thing to indicate a single lie. Does that mean they are not lying to me? Certainly not. I still assume there are lies somewhere.

I also look at other things such as character, how they treat other people, how desperate they are for money, how busy they are and do they even have time to see someone else. Remember logistics is one of the biggest impediments to actually meeting and fucking an SB. This will be an impediment to them fucking someone else also.

Also I keep condoms at each of my babies apartments and so I count them to see if any are missing when I come back. So far none have been missing. Also they have also told me that they are looking for one SD when we first met. Also another indicator that has shown up. I have found a vibrator in all three babies bed somewhere in the past few weeks. That tells me they are taking care of business by themselves when I am not there.

With all of this. I still have to assume they are fucking someone somewhere at sometime and there is nothing I can do about it. And there are several SD's on here that have found out the hard way they can fuck around on you. If I did not assume they were, I would drive myself crazy.

One other thing. Maybe if you take care of her well. And fuck her really well when you do see her. That is also a way to keep her in the fold. Think about it. I know for myself that I am not even thinking about other women most of the time. Because I have some quality poontang coming up just around the corner.

On another note. She sounds really hot. And sexual. That is awesome. Way to go brother. I am dying to hear more. Did you get a pic?

Revvo

[QUOTE=FredMoore;1896920]My ATF talks about hating monogamy and liking sex when she wants it. But she doesn't talk about all the other guys she is banging at the moment. I'm allowed to imagine that I am the only one. Since I demand BareBack, if the SB is riding me bare it would make sense that she would also ride others, so your exposure to STDs is significant. She does talk about previous experiences and even that bothers me.[/QUOTE]Dude are you telling me that you are doing your SB bareback and she is openly doing other guys bareback? Arent you freaking out about what could happen? Is your wife being exposed to this also?

I wish you luck brother.

Revvo

I have been in the bowl for about 2 months now, my first report was about a M&G that I had with I'll call her POT1. Our meeting went great and felt that there was a connection until she disappeared and never heard from her again. After about a month she sent me a msj and told me she had been in jail and was unable to get in touch with me. She kept asking for money and promises of a meeting in the FC, since I had just started of course I gave in and gave her the money. I'm sure the seniors and the guys that have been doing this a while are wishing they could reach through the monitor and smack the hell out of me LOL. Needless to say I had to chalk that up as a lessoned learned.

POT2_ Stripper Girl.

I met a girl who was working, again for all the seniors and the guys in it for a while I'm sure you may want to smack me again haha but I decided to give this one a try. Well I had fun with this one but it seemed like it never moved forward to anything else. It mostly consisted of pics and lots of lap dances with minimal play, so after a while I decided to cut this one loose. She kept texting and asking for money but I knew better and kindly let her go.

NOW FOR THE GOOD NEWS!

Scheduled a M&G with a 20 yr old, sorority girl who works at a bank, I saw her pics and thought she was way out of me league but decided to go for it. It took her a couple of days to respond but finally got a text msj from her. We decided we would meet for lunch and see if it led to anything, in my mind I had been burned twice and thought I would take a more cautious approach. We finally arrived at the restaurant and she was looking fine as hell! During our lunch she talked about herself and what she did, I felt a complete connection with her and asked her if she was willing to go for a drive. She said she had 20 min and I was not at all disappointed with her abilities in those 20 min that we were driving around. I will keep posting and let you guys know what is happening with her and my new prospects.

Everyone stay safe and happy hunting!

Nice work, Bachatas, I like you am new to the game and it certainly is a rollercoaster. But there's nothing like the SB. I've had flakes and money demands too, but when you get to the FC with these HYB, it can be awesome!

Curious, but which city / region are you playing in? I'm in the Aloha state.

Good hunting and stay safe!

-GG.

[QUOTE=Bachatas13; 1896987]I have been in the bowl for about 2 months now, my first report was about a M&G that I had with I'll call her POT1. Our meeting went great and felt that there was a connection until she disappeared and never heard from her again. After about a month she sent me a msj and told me she had been in jail and was unable to get in touch with me. She kept asking for money and promises of a meeting in the FC, since I had just started of course I gave in and gave her the money. I'm sure the seniors and the guys that have been doing this a while are wishing they could reach through the monitor and smack the hell out of me LOL. Needless to say I had to chalk that up as a lessoned learned.

I said farewell to her early this morning. 9/7/10/10. After a day and a half of my car being in her shop, she managed to change my oil, rotate my tires and give me a complete tune up. She loves sex and loves to swallow. In the less than 36 hours or so that she was here, we spent less than 20 hours together: kissing cuddling, flirting, dining together, smooching in public, which she claims she never does. I lost count of how many cups she emptied, but it was more than a handful. She took every drop like a pawn star (porn) LOL. Too bad she doesn't live close but that has been my luck. The babies in my back yard show no interest but the ones that require a plane trip are eager to please. Any other SD out there that has a better record on the road as oppsed to having home-bed advantage?

Mayweather & I still talk & text everyday. It's been over a month since we put our hands on each other but the sex was unlimited. The same way Karl Molone nodded his head & the pass was there from John Stockton for the easy basket for Malone & the assist for Stockton, was the same way Mayweather and me clicked. All I had to do was look down at her belt buckle & she knew what time it was. Here's a pic of Mayweather.

[QUOTE=LoriTruck;1897532]Any other SD out there that has a better record on the road as oppsed to having home-bed advantage?[/QUOTE]When I lived in VA. I had much better success on the road than at home. But no Fly-In's.

Once I move to the west coast and started working San Diego and the North County the home bed advantage proved to be decisive. But still had two awesome fly-in's.

Even after moving my franchise to Las Vegas and not having a shiny new stadium. My home bed advantage continues to prove to be decisive. My only disaster as a fly in was your complete success my brother (Lug Nuts). Gives an entire new meaning to YMMV.

SubCmdr

I have only 1 SB- who is 8 all over. 21 year old. My dilemma is, seen her 3 times! She talks for an hour and then straight to FC. No kiss, nothing else. I kept pushing but she is not ready and not willing to open up. I am feeling like 1 sided and plus she gets out quickly. I am trying to convince but not working. Plus she smokes. And into weeds which I am don't like much! May be this chapter is closing.

Having way too much time on my hands. Met with MsTallFreaky twice. Both were a dinner during the week. The second one, she came back to my hotel room and we had fun making out. She was on her period so we could only go so far. I was able to get those cute perky boobs in my mouth. Very nice B cups. For her to be a self proclaimed freak, she refused to give me oral both times. She claimed she does after I do. So we laughed it off. So I gave her gas money and money for the sitter. 60.

This is another type that is more than willing to let you spend on her without her reciprocating. She had mentioned shopping for furniture, etc, and how some guy took her shopping on the first date. Yada yada yada, LOL. She's got the wrong one. We are supposed to link up on Monday, this gives her time to recover from her 3Some on Friday. The more that I listen to her, I don't think she's as much of a freak that she claims to be. Funny thing is, I had much more money and I would have given her $.60 if she would have sucked me dry.

The model POT that I thought was a professional, seems to be up to something interesting. She's still communicating, but very sporadic and not consistent. I did some more research and some of her pics are of a true model who was featured in Playboy. Those pics are being used by a professional who interestingly has the same name as the AF profile. The main pic on her profile is actually from a CAM girl. So I'm not sure who she is. I'm trying to cut to the chase and have a M&G with her. We'll see how that works.

BigTigg