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[QUOTE=Riclagriclag]Lilly'S just got a new batch in about a month ago. They usually get the boot once Choon Yeol Jeon gets suspicious of girls that give extras. Thats probably why she has stayed under the radar so long. Some on this forum have been suspicious that she or someone checks these forums. Every once in a while people have to be reminded. Just sending up smoke signals. Suggestion: discretion
Ric[/QUOTE]
Well put.
ND
[QUOTE=Olepapa]I saw Bebe yesterday because of that review. There was no access to the girls whatsoever except for roaming on top of the clothes. She is very attractive and her body is great, but the policy seems to remain the same for Lilly's. By the way, her TS was too brief and not very sensual. Despite her good looks and body I probably will not repeat. Not sure if I will even repeat at Lilly's anymore.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report OP, seemed way too good to be true! You TOFTT, thank you! I'm on my way to Bali's; 1st time. Have a report when I return later.
[QUOTE=Newday53]Well put.
ND[/QUOTE]One of the girls at Lilly's indicated to me that they have cameras in all the rooms including the TS stalls - that's how they are aware of what the girls are up to.
Went to Bali this afternoon, told mama I knew someone and she set me up with a brand new girl named Suri. About 23-25, nice natural B's with regular sized nipples (I like that), and a thinnish but great body. Face about a 7-8 as well. Suri started today, from NY, and I was her first customer at Bali since arriving this morning. This is not a complaint, because I thought she was wonderful; but I wonder how much beterr she would have been without the previous 4-5 hour drive? Anyways, TS nice attention in all the right areas, great smile, and very good English. 5 minute sauna then to room. Massage was ok, soft touch really nice and long (I like that too.) Flip, absolutely no mention of money (read my former post on One Spa and you'll see how I feel about that), mutiple positions later and a great finish. Little more massage, and done. Really a nice experience with Suri. This was my first experience at Bali, and I liked it very much. Clean establishment, pretty girls, no rush; well done and would definitely repeat!
Not surprising, but will certainly keep me far far away from there. Too many other good opportunities without the fuss. Not the best way to treat their customers either because if somehow someway there are cameras and there are tapes a very bad situation. I have no evidence to confirm any such information, but at this point won't ever take the chance.
Jack
I took a trip to Lily's yesterday after reading several very positive reviews recently. It should always be assumed that YMMV, but after having a similarly positive visit about a month and a half ago I had high hopes that I was in for a treat. I couldn't have been more wrong. Usually, I am greeted by a friendly mamason that recognizes me and gives me a hug, but I did not recognize this one and she looked at me funny when I asked to first use the bathroom. After draining the little guy I was met by my girl, she was nothing short of strange and I was immediately turned off, but decided to give her a chance and go with the flow. She was probably in her mid-thirties, a little old for Lily's, but you can never really tell. She had a lot of makeup on and it made her eyes appear weird and googly. But the worst part was her voice, which was extremely high pitched and she spoke almost zero English, outside of yes and no. The table shower was actually very good, one of the longest I've ever had, which included a light massage during it. After the TS things went down hill quickly. The sauna was cold and I walked out after sitting in there for a few minutes waiting for it to heat up, then when the massage started she used a sheet over me and I had to ask her to remove it. Once, it was time for the flip she tried negotiating, which I have never had happen before at Lily's and was a total turn off. The language barrier was so extreme that it took me about 5 minutes to realize she was asking for money and when I finally did I handed her the standard 40 and she wanted more. I told her that was all I had and had to open my wallet in front of her to understand what I was saying. She made an unpleasant face and started with a horribly mechanic HJ. I was so turned off at this point that I could barely stand up straight, half mast at best. After about 10 minutes of this lackluster HJ I took over and finished the job myself. I wouldn't have even tipped if I hadn't already given her the money prior to the flip. Perhaps I hit it on off day but I doubt I'll be back anytime soon.
Uncle Tug
[QUOTE=Kenn Jack]Not surprising, but will certainly keep me far far away from there. Too many other good opportunities without the fuss. Not the best way to treat their customers either because if somehow someway there are cameras and there are tapes a very bad situation. I have no evidence to confirm any such information, but at this point won't ever take the chance.
Jack[/QUOTE]
It seems like we have been through this crap more than once. A month or so ago I saw Heidi. It was a grand visit. Top off and pants down on her initiave before the flip. A little body on body and a great HJ. Well next time...nada. When I inquired she just shrugged. I believe she is gone now. Just like BeBe will be soon. Whether they have cameras (discussed ad nausem) or read the forum it doesn't really matter. It is time we take some action. will it matter...undoubtly not but we need to. Business is down there and we need to make it go down a little more. If the 20 or 30 gents who post about going there stop going then it will make a difference. There were 15-20 places (indie and spa) around before the 'loophole'. Some have closed and some have gone underground but we need to find them (I'm sure some gents have gone but aren't reporting) and start going there. (as an example there are 2 close by Lily's). If the ladies aren't quite our type (older and not as good looking) then we need to politely tell them that if they get younger we will go back. Some might listen......
As for me I just called the mamasaun told her who I was and I saw Heidi and another (just use a name you saw here) and had a great time but I wasn't returning since the good time I had was taken away and I was going around the corner. Will it matter...I doubt it. Does it make me feel better...yep. And jsut maybe if the owners are reading then they might loosen up. If not then as we find new places to visit maybe we can just help them out as a thanks for their providing us a little enjoyment. And it has been almost a year since the 'loophole' let's not worry about 'protecting' the off the beaten track places. Report..Report..Report. Just my .02 as usual. SO
[QUOTE=Tuglover1]I took a trip to Lily's yesterday after reading several very positive reviews recently. It should always be assumed that YMMV, but after having a similarly positive visit about a month and a half ago I had high hopes that I was in for a treat. I couldn't have been more wrong. Usually, I am greeted by a friendly mamason that recognizes me and gives me a hug, but I did not recognize this one and she looked at me funny when I asked to first use the bathroom. After draining the little guy I was met by my girl, she was nothing short of strange and I was immediately turned off, but decided to give her a chance and go with the flow. She was probably in her mid-thirties, a little old for Lily's, but you can never really tell. She had a lot of makeup on and it made her eyes appear weird and googly. But the worst part was her voice, which was extremely high pitched and she spoke almost zero English, outside of yes and no. The table shower was actually very good, one of the longest I've ever had, which included a light massage during it. After the TS things went down hill quickly. The sauna was cold and I walked out after sitting in there for a few minutes waiting for it to heat up, then when the massage started she used a sheet over me and I had to ask her to remove it. Once, it was time for the flip she tried negotiating, which I have never had happen before at Lily's and was a total turn off. The language barrier was so extreme that it took me about 5 minutes to realize she was asking for money and when I finally did I handed her the standard 40 and she wanted more. I told her that was all I had and had to open my wallet in front of her to understand what I was saying. She made an unpleasant face and started with a horribly mechanic HJ. I was so turned off at this point that I could barely stand up straight, half mast at best. After about 10 minutes of this lackluster HJ I took over and finished the job myself. I wouldn't have even tipped if I hadn't already given her the money prior to the flip. Perhaps I hit it on off day but I doubt I'll be back anytime soon.
Uncle Tug[/QUOTE]Uncle,
Do as you like, but I have always found this has worked for me. I have also been to Lilly's a few times with mixed results. However, their SOP is never to ask for a dime and when I would have heard her ask before anything happened, I would have told her that I was thinking about it, let her rub, and take off having rec'd nothing and given nothing with the cash going to the house. BELIEVE ME, nothing sends a message like doing this for an hour and walking away with NADA (presuming the house keeps the 60).
Any time things are not going well, the negotiation reaches the point of absurdity or I am just not comfortable with the situation, "just walk on by" to quote Dionne Warwick.
[QUOTE=Tuglover1]I took a trip to Lily's yesterday after reading several very positive reviews recently. It should always be assumed that YMMV, but after having a similarly positive visit about a month and a half ago I had high hopes that I was in for a treat. I couldn't have been more wrong. Usually, I am greeted by a friendly mamason that recognizes me and gives me a hug, but I did not recognize this one and she looked at me funny when I asked to first use the bathroom. After draining the little guy I was met by my girl, she was nothing short of strange and I was immediately turned off, but decided to give her a chance and go with the flow. She was probably in her mid-thirties, a little old for Lily's, but you can never really tell. She had a lot of makeup on and it made her eyes appear weird and googly. But the worst part was her voice, which was extremely high pitched and she spoke almost zero English, outside of yes and no. The table shower was actually very good, one of the longest I've ever had, which included a light massage during it. After the TS things went down hill quickly. The sauna was cold and I walked out after sitting in there for a few minutes waiting for it to heat up, then when the massage started she used a sheet over me and I had to ask her to remove it. Once, it was time for the flip she tried negotiating, which I have never had happen before at Lily's and was a total turn off. The language barrier was so extreme that it took me about 5 minutes to realize she was asking for money and when I finally did I handed her the standard 40 and she wanted more. I told her that was all I had and had to open my wallet in front of her to understand what I was saying. She made an unpleasant face and started with a horribly mechanic HJ. I was so turned off at this point that I could barely stand up straight, half mast at best. After about 10 minutes of this lackluster HJ I took over and finished the job myself. I wouldn't have even tipped if I hadn't already given her the money prior to the flip. Perhaps I hit it on off day but I doubt I'll be back anytime soon.
Uncle Tug[/QUOTE]
Wow, Sorry to hear that Lilly's has really taken a downturn in service as they were always known to be the best of all as far as Rub and Tug joints go. To be truthful I did not frequent Lilly's at all as I am a FS type guy. IF any of you R&T types wanna move up to a FS experience feel free to PM me and I would be happy to give a recommended place to TRUSTED senoirs only!
Dude, I would be pissed to no end if I had to finsih myself at a Spa in LaProv!!! Damn whats the world coming to.......
Didn't Geddy Lee sing about " deviating from the norm"? My norm was Pleasant. My last couple of visits were a bit of a downer because the usual unspoken options were not brought up. What up with that?
Summer has been busy just haven't had the hobby time so to speak and saving funds for vacation.
I see that Lilly's is a current topic of discussion. How apropos. I paid a visit after alengthy abscence.
I can see why I initially liked the place the gals are cute flirty and you know what you will expect and get. I was actually pleased by the " touch". What I mean the lady sat on my legs and butt while she massaged me. And the light touch was playful. The finish was flirtingly fun but I also remember how the routine there led me yearning for more so I ventured to other places, but "it is what it is"and we should all remember that.
Took a trip to Bali's the place looked clean it's pretty convenient to 95.
Suri or Se Ri was there for me. Contrast in dress to Lillys noticed asap skimpy bikini was a good sign My experience was similar to recent report posted but she wasn't tired from traveling. The massage wasn't as good as Lillys but the light touch was very teasing. Let's just say you will not leave Bali's feeling like you needed more from your visit because you should find what you seek there if you know how to look.
[QUOTE=Olepapa]One of the girls at Lilly's indicated to me that they have cameras in all the rooms including the TS stalls - that's how they are aware of what the girls are up to.[/QUOTE]
We have been through this before, most of the amps have cameras at least in the public areas, although the only place I think you can hide one at Lilly's is the center of the AC grill that is right over the table. I have looked close but never got up on the table for a better look.
I think they have been slow from what the girls have been saying and they are trying to bring in more business.
If they start enforcing the new law the way it was written it would appear that a HJ is enough to close a place so why not bring the service up a bit.
This board has been posting on places like 1021, CH and so forth strait through the change in laws and they are still in operation.
Tug, who was the girl at Lily's? I go there alot (today in fact) I just don't want to end up with her. Sorry to hear things went so wrong.
[QUOTE=Stressed Out]It seems like we have been through this crap more than once. A month or so ago I saw Heidi. It was a grand visit. Top off and pants down on her initiave before the flip. A little body on body and a great HJ. Well next time. Nada. When I inquired she just shrugged. I believe she is gone now. Just like BeBe will be soon. Whether they have cameras (discussed ad nausem) or read the forum it doesn't really matter. It is time we take some action. Will it matter. Undoubtly not but we need to. Business is down there and we need to make it go down a little more. If the 20 or 30 gents who post about going there stop going then it will make a difference. There were 15-20 places (indie and spa) around before the 'loophole'. Some have closed and some have gone underground but we need to find them (I'm sure some gents have gone but aren't reporting) and start going there. (as an example there are 2 close by Lily's). If the ladies aren't quite our type (older and not as good looking) then we need to politely tell them that if they get younger we will go back. Some might listen.
As for me I just called the mamasaun told her who I was and I saw Heidi and another (just use a name you saw here) and had a great time but I wasn't returning since the good time I had was taken away and I was going around the corner. Will it matter. I doubt it. Does it make me feel better. Yep. And jsut maybe if the owners are reading then they might loosen up. If not then as we find new places to visit maybe we can just help them out as a thanks for their providing us a little enjoyment. And it has been almost a year since the 'loophole' let's not worry about 'protecting' the off the beaten track places. Report. Report. Report. Just my. 02 as usual. SO[/QUOTE]Sorry, but I have to disagree with you on this one. You say business is down and we need to make it go down more? That's not the answer. Lily's has survived nicely, everyone knows the limits and as long as you don't go over them you'll be ok. If you're looking for more than what's offered there then the answer is go someplace else. There is an abudance of spas & independants in all areas. You don't go to McDs looking for surf & turf so why go to Lily's looking for something that's not on the menue. I have been going to Lily's for a long time now and it is just what I want. When I am looking for more I go elsewhere. I don't mean to be disrespectful, but that's just my. 02.
Called this afternoon and made an app. with Bebe for later in the day. Arrived right on time. We talked for a few min. then off to the TS. As was reported earlier by another reviewer TS was short and uneventful but completed. Skipped the sauna, went right for the massage and it was a good one. I love it when she sits on me and massages my back, her legs feel real good on me, and she has legs to die for. No extras, like so many of you were complaining about, just the good Lily's ending. Was asked if I wanted another hour back to back but I wasn't prepared financially for that. Just what ths doctor ordered. No mention of money. 60 + tip.
I drove by the new place today after doing a job in Providence. It's only about half a block from Sundance, and directly across the street from a latino evangelical church. There's no sign at all, just a neon "Open!" in the curtained window. I had my tools in the car and didn't particularly want to park in the neighborhood even though it's probably perfectly safe (I parked in Sundance's little out-front lot a couple of times in years past, and that's less public because Sundance is on that little side street, so it was probably a bigger risk of smash-and-grab). If anything, I'd be afraid that some holy Jose would be out there taking pictures of us sinners and our license plates.