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Well you are in the right place--feel free to send me a PM if you have any further queries. I've been at this for a long time.
Always glad to help a fellow monger.
PHil-.
[QUOTE=HobbyVeteran;4844917]Well I didn't get raked over the coals because I shut those girls down. . 5 for a hookup is insane.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PhillUponThese;4844899]Bro I agree with Evil-This may not be your cup of tea! Guys like you get raked over the coals. You may be better off contacting an high end escort or something. Try [URL]EROS.com[/URL].
Phil-.[/QUOTE]I think I've already sniffed out the BS and know some general rules. I will never pay pre meetup. I was just asking guys experiences with less "straightforward" arrangements. I make good money but obviously don't just want to throw away cash for no reason. Personally I'm still leaning on the safe side and just going to hold my money close to the chest. I'm just more attracted to a SB arrangement than high end escorts. I think it takes more work for sure but as you said, if you keep at it youll find some diamonds in the rough that make it worthwhile. And in general I'm more into the "casual" girls than pros. For example I already have a 18 year old that literally told me "I don't have to pay" after I offered her money. Pretty wild. I don't think you'll find that with escorts.
[QUOTE=AsenseOfWonder;4844257]What kind of scams do they run? I've been talking to one who claims to be new but was very willing to meet up for a free m&g. Did reverse photo search and found a macth on an Instagram worldofasians. Seems off but wondering what I can / should do to protect myself.[/QUOTE]The most common scam is probably a girl (dude thousands of miles away) who is super quick to M&G with you. She (the dude) will agree to meet anywhere like tonight. An hour before the fateful meet you'll get a request for babysitting / gas / makeup / whatthefuk money. That you pay the amount or not makes little difference on if you'll meet the girl (dude) at the agreed time and place. Hint: there's no girl.
There seems to be more sites than I'm willing to spend money on. So, I'd like to get your opinions on which ones offer the best value.
-Most non-pros.
-Most responsive users.
-Least games played.
-Value for money.
I don't want to sink money in a site that offers nothing or too little in return. I appreciate your opinions in advance.
[QUOTE=SFVsag;4845894]There seems to be more sites than I'm willing to spend money on. So, I'd like to get your opinions on which ones offer the best value.
-Most non-pros.
-Most responsive users.
-Least games played.
-Value for money.
I don't want to sink money in a site that offers nothing or too little in return. I appreciate your opinions in advance.[/QUOTE]Interested in feedback as well. Personally, I've only been on SA and so far its been the true definition of hit and miss.
[QUOTE=SFVsag;4845894]There seems to be more sites than I'm willing to spend money on. So, I'd like to get your opinions on which ones offer the best value.
-Most non-pros.
-Most responsive users.
-Least games played.
-Value for money.
I don't want to sink money in a site that offers nothing or too little in return. I appreciate your opinions in advance.[/QUOTE]SA only player here.
[QUOTE=HobbyVeteran;4844917]Well I didn't get raked over the coals because I shut those girls down. . 5 for a hookup is insane.[/QUOTE]Girls on there were asking for 4-7 k / mo or 1-2 k PPM. Like GTFO what chumps are willing to do that?
There are definitely legitimate girls on SA, but fewer since COVID. The popularity of the site has attracted a lot more fakes, flakes, scammers, toe dippers, platonic only, online only girls. It takes work, but there are still gems to be found.
[QUOTE=OhHellYeah;4844058]SA is a ripoff. I'd say like 99% fake or scammers or flakes. The rest are high end escorts.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;4849777]There are definitely legitimate girls on SA, but fewer since COVID. The popularity of the site has attracted a lot more fakes, flakes, scammers, toe dippers, platonic only, online only girls. It takes work, but there are still gems to be found.[/QUOTE]I've been trying SB and no not do great.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ea517a51-ea79-4494-b6c8-91ccf64e9850[/URL]
I offered a $. She said $$.5. So I passed.
[QUOTE=HobbyVeteran;4850649]I've been trying SB and no not do great.[/QUOTE]I think SA is better than SB. I have a Sugar B that I hit on the regular from SA, she isn't posted anymore. Big tits, beautiful face and MILF personality.
[QUOTE=AsenseOfWonder;4849599]Girls on there were asking for 4-7 k / mo or 1-2 k PPM. Like GTFO what chumps are willing to do that?[/QUOTE]There are a few chumps who are willing to do that, which screws it up for the rest of us. Also, I've met a few sugar babies who agree on the aforementioned prices and show up with a check. That check, of course, bounces. I'm not sure if these stories are actually true, but you have to be a real lowlife to be pulling that stunt.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/01541a89-1f08-4989-ac14-e6d3648c180d[/URL]
Between $.5 and $$. A real shame I had to pass. She is pretty.
[QUOTE=JackMiles;4850847]There are a few chumps who are willing to do that, which screws it up for the rest of us. Also, I've met a few sugar babies who agree on the aforementioned prices and show up with a check. That check, of course, bounces. I'm not sure if these stories are actually true, but you have to be a real lowlife to be pulling that stunt.[/QUOTE]Never, ever believe what a girl tells you she's gotten in the past. Unless you can see an actual proof, it's all in her head. The lying going on by girls on SA is non-stop. For most of these girls every single word out of their mouths are lies. I've been told some amazing tales in my time. Like the girl who had a job and a SD who paid her 3 K a month for most of the last year. She shows up to the meet in beater car worth maybe 1 k. As if she wouldn't get decent wheels if she had any money. Or the one who told me she would meet her married SD every other weekend and he fell in love with her. As if a married guy can leave his wife behind every 2 weeks just like that.
These young girls all like to pretend to a life they only wish was true.
[QUOTE=EvilTmp;4851459]Never, ever believe what a girl tells you she's gotten in the past. Unless you can see an actual proof, it's all in her head. The lying going on by girls on SA is non-stop. For most of these girls every single word out of their mouths are lies. I've been told some amazing tales in my time. Like the girl who had a job and a SD who paid her 3 K a month for most of the last year. She shows up to the meet in beater car worth maybe 1 k. As if she wouldn't get decent wheels if she had any money. Or the one who told me she would meet her married SD every other weekend and he fell in love with her. As if a married guy can leave his wife behind every 2 weeks just like that.
These young girls all like to pretend to a life they only wish was true.[/QUOTE]I've always wanted to ask these girls going for "online only" relationships (a staggering amount), are ANY guys actually paying you for that, and how much? I'd like to know the real answer. Because if a bunch of guys are actually doing that I've lost my faith in humanity. I'm hoping these girls make an account with this plan and quickly delete it when they realize men actually expect something of real value in return for money.