Stopped at sun tonight after 1am CLOSED talked to Marie on the phone said new hours are in effect now. 6am-12 midnight. Wasted a 1 1/2 hour drive for nothing. Can't wait toll things go back to normal. Soon enough!!"
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Stopped at sun tonight after 1am CLOSED talked to Marie on the phone said new hours are in effect now. 6am-12 midnight. Wasted a 1 1/2 hour drive for nothing. Can't wait toll things go back to normal. Soon enough!!"
[QUOTE=Jeep56; 1380762]The spas are the ones that are fearful of what the new legislation brings. They see the end of their "business" and they know that they are in the sights of the FEDS, the local law enforcement and the state who are targeting the spas.
Springfield Ohio had their spas shut down and there were legal challenges there too. The spas lost. You can bet that any lawsuit will be thrown out as frivolous as the same laws have been passed in other cities and held to be legal and constitutional. The same thing happened in Nashville, TN. The spas there tried in vain to stop their shut down. Nashville is now spa less where before there were almost 20 in the city.
Look for the Toledo spas to be next.
Anyone can bring a lawsuit against anyone and try to win. In this case, the spas will lose. The spas are now getting desperate. Seeing how they have brought a lawsuit, look for the city of Warren to start heavy undercover work at the spas. The lawsuit is pissing off the people of Warren. They will demand undercover operations at the spas to prove prostitution is going on. With the influx of federal money, cost will be no problem. The owners are trying to stop the inevitable and know the end is near.[/QUOTE]I don't know Jeepster. If you read the comments page of the Tribtoday report of the lawsuit it looks like the people of Warren are more pissed off at MVOC and the city of Warren for passing the ordinances in the first place. Again, look at Hicks and his comments. It's going to be a complete waste of time and Money. And it also looks like that MVOC is going to get a cut of that Fed money that Ipinni was writing about. So MVOC gets their cut and all the glory (holes) in place. The people of Warren got duped and they know it and they're pissed at city council and MVOC.
And with all your rhetoric about how the Feds showed up on your doorstep to give you a warning, my question is why? I think you're leaving more out of your story that you've been conveying to us. I think if the Feds were interested in your spending habits and whereabouts then you must have been doing or involved in some sort of criminal behavior (s) than you've lead us to believe. I don't know maybe something related to porn, drugs, or something. I don't think Feds would take special interest in you unless you were involved with something deeper or more expansive.
So quit with your fearmongering because I think there's more to the rest of your story.
[QUOTE=KingIpinni; 1380576]Your last post was totally misleading! The lawsuit is protocol! Did you read it! I did! The fight they have starts with the fact that there have been no LE reports on any of the spas (published). The twist is that this is not going to stop the state and federal money from filtering in to the city of Warren to help with enforcement and investigation! Who over sees our court system? KASICH! Who is 100% behind the human trafficking issues (fantasy issues) and riding the state of these facilities? KASICH! What do you think the city is going to do? Send the money back? Doubtful! The whole thing here is things will get far worse, before they get better! Another fun filled fact is do you know what age group is most common for human trafficking in the massage trade? 18 to 27, over 95% of all cases! What spa does this fit? There is only one! FANTASY SPA! There is no denying that Fantasy has caused the majority of this to co (me on. Now, the lawyers involved (from the areas #1spa) have contacted all these other owners to share in the legal cost. Now these lawyers will make a shit load of money and create minimal results (more or less a small delay in enforcement of the legislation) , from what I hear the total retainer is about 20gs. Be careful where you travel guys, though I don't think they they are going to target clientele, I do think there is going to be a few operations in the near future. I do have a little inside trac on some of this stuff going on and just want to put it out there! The tribune is a good source for bullshit they want to put out, they don't want to show their hand to quick! You never know when the Joker will show his face.
Happy Mongering.
How old are these girls at Fantasy? From what I hear they are very very young? I asked one time to see some papers because I thought she was a minor! That got me thrown out! I can't remember it may have been Kim!
Happy Mongering[/QUOTE]I'm beginning to believe that you are either bi-polar and / or maniac depressive Ipinni. You're all over the place with this issue plus I see that you've don the fangs and cape as vampireweekend on the Tribtoday. Pretty funny as someone who professes he hates me and my brother Vamp, you sure do like dressing up and acting like us. Your diatribe about Human Trafficking and trying to equate it with Fantacy Spa is just plain laughable. Just like drool dribbling out the corners of your mouth in rabid fashion. And you've never been kicked out of Fantacy. I believe your last review of Fantacy was with Betty after Kelly left several months back. Don't recall you ever meeting Kim and oh, ahhhhmmmm, Kim's in her early 30's. And why would you be asking for papers? Are you a cop? Undercover? I know that Sammy has had problems with Fantacy's girls being young. She talked to me about Betty over the Summertime and was quite jealous about her working. Why? Oh, yeah, cause most of the Korean girls in this area are over 35 and Sammie can't get the yungins in if she could. Because? Oh yeah, another line of bs from me about that. Isn't it interesting that there isn't any young Korean women working these spas? Maybe Maria (and I can bet she's over 30). Why don't you ask for her papers too Ipinni since you're on the hunt. But then your son works there at SUN and he pretty much knows everyone there. Should be no problem there. Oh, and groups like Amnesty International have been critical of the insufficient and / or ineffective government measures to tackle the so called human trafficking problem being that there is a lack of understanding of the issues, poor identification of victims and a lack of resources for the key pillars of anti-trafficking. I. E. Identification, protection, prosecution and prevention. MVOC wants to ascribe "victim status" to these women who are making "consicous and rational decisions" to work in these spas and who do not consider themselves victims. There are no needs to be rescued since there's not even an anti-trafficking shelter even set up for this like MVOC promised there would be. WHERE ARE THE SO CALLED SHELTERS MVOC? Oh, wait, you've already pocketed the money for your own use and salaries. Oh well, I guess you won't be there to clean up the mess that this ordinance is going to create. Sure Ipinni, maybe Kasich is behind this but I can see him eventually backing out of this as well if it's going to produce egg on his face. You got to save face when you're a politician. And again, Hicks didn't seem to enthused about this whole thing. He seemed really half hearted about this. So again, I'm not worried. Go to SUN. Come to Fantacy. Ride over to Ocean and MoonNight. Go where your boner takes you. The sun hasn't set yet but when it does that's when the freaks will come out at night. Again, quit with the fearmongering. We're here about the girls. And has always.
Happy Mongeling.
[QUOTE=Bikerman;1381639]Stopped at sun tonight after 1am CLOSED talked to Marie on the phone said new hours are in effect now. 6am-12 midnight. Wasted a 1 1/2 hour drive for nothing. Can't wait toll things go back to normal. Soon enough!!"[/QUOTE]According to WFMJdotcom story this morning the new rules went into affect Saturday. Previous news reports stated they had 30 days.
Happy Mongering
This new push against the spa is nothing more than a money grab by the city for federal dollars. A couple of years ago I read about a new program the feds wanted to start called "Weed and seed". The idea was to put federal money into stopping drugs, prostitution and other crimes in various parts of the city (the article was really about Cleveland). The thought was that once these areas would be cleaned up then new businesses would want to come in and would revitalize the area. Of course very little thought went into this theory and it appears to me to be nothing more than another Obama spending program.
You could level the entire west side from W. 25th to W. 117th and still no one in their right mind would want to establish a real business there anyway. It's the same thing with Warren. Realistically, who is going to move into that area whether the massage parlors are there or not? Nobody. But it makes for feel good politics.
[QUOTE=Cesar Romero; 1381462]All I can speak to is Sun from a week ago. Things very normal, Spa busy, girls fun, food good. I think it will be a while before the city get's it's act together on how they are going to enforce the new law. The mama's now have their lawyers working on what the law will mean and how they can survive it's restrictions.
Now there have been lot's of unsourced inside reports on these pages of aggressive implementation of the law but nothing so far.[/QUOTE]It will be interesting to see if they make any inspections today before the hearing tomorrow morning. I would presume all spas are open today and complying with new laws. Any spa visits taken today by anyone please post them.
Happy Mongering.
Wow, I like the idea of new hours. Lack of sleep makes for a grumpy Uno player. Thanks for the update. I do love all the helpful information I get from this forum.
What ever your smokin (did you get it at USA gas mart) I want some! LOL! It is and will always be about the girls! Here is the issue, You are trying to minimize what is going on with this legislation. All you say is non factual / non sense! The city is not going to give up federal or state funding. The LE department are salavating for overtime pay. You and I both know its all about politics. The spas are not packing up and leaving without defending themselves! This will be done at someones expense "no doubt". Who knows who? Did you ever think that there are ongoing investigations?
Give these people some credit, though they are not as wise as your average mongerer, they can see the obvious! Why does Ada shake down all new cumers? Ask her what she called me? Undercover! All these owners fear the worst. If they didn't they wouldn't have a business very long! Quit putting your shit on Sun, you couldn't ask for a better group of ladies! All I will ask you is to post the link that Book Man has asked you for so many times! Korean Immigration Age Limitations? If you read this it shouldn't be a problem, even something close phool! And the only mental disorder I have is paranoid schizophrenia! Its under control though! BTW I have traveled quite a bit in the last several months and can tell you, there is alot of young Korean ladies working the Atlanta area! Aaaaaalot! I refer to this as working girl Monger Heaven! As always all I can say is be straight and we can all get along.
Happy Mongering
The new hours blow. I guess if it's after midnight you have 4 seasons and suzy Kim's and 76spa I think ocean is warren but real close to niles. I guess I'll spend my $$ in another city not spa money but when I'm out I usually fill up in gas that's around $60 and usually a bite to eat there are quite a few places open all nite. I guess warren doesn't need the revenue. Good for them. Just a thought!
[QUOTE=KingIpinni; 1382150]What ever your smokin (did you get it at USA gas mart) I want some! LOL! It is and will always be about the girls! Here is the issue, You are trying to minimize what is going on with this legislation. All you say is non factual / non sense! The city is not going to give up federal or state funding. The LE department are salavating for overtime pay. You and I both know its all about politics. The spas are not packing up and leaving without defending themselves! This will be done at someones expense "no doubt". Who knows who? Did you ever think that there are ongoing investigations?
Give these people some credit, though they are not as wise as your average mongerer, they can see the obvious! Why does Ada shake down all new cumers? Ask her what she called me? Undercover! All these owners fear the worst. If they didn't they wouldn't have a business very long! Quit putting your shit on Sun, you couldn't ask for a better group of ladies! All I will ask you is to post the link that Book Man has asked you for so many times! Korean Immigration Age Limitations? If you read this it shouldn't be a problem, even something close phool! And the only mental disorder I have is paranoid schizophrenia! Its under control though! BTW I have traveled quite a bit in the last several months and can tell you, there is alot of young Korean ladies working the Atlanta area! Aaaaaalot! I refer to this as working girl Monger Heaven! As always all I can say is be straight and we can all get along.
Happy Mongering[/QUOTE]You would not be talking about the famous GOlD SPA in ATL would you? Is it still 300 a pop there?
Stopped in last night at 11:00. Got Marie again. A customer messed with the dial on the sauna and it was not very warm in there. They couldn't get it back to work. She asked me if I did it. Seriously? Didn't really have a good time. She said she charges $.2. I ended my time early because she said another person was waiting on her. I told her I liked her and did not appreciate the last two sessions. She is not very affectionate and I told her so. Am very disappointed. Well, time to move on.
[QUOTE=Bearsfan54;1382347]Stopped in last night at 11:00. Got Marie again. A customer messed with the dial on the sauna and it was not very warm in there. They couldn't get it back to work. She asked me if I did it. Seriously? Didn't really have a good time. She said she charges $.2. I ended my time early because she said another person was waiting on her. I told her I liked her and did not appreciate the last two sessions. She is not very affectionate and I told her so. Am very disappointed. Well, time to move on.[/QUOTE]I am sorry for your bad time, did you mention anything to Sammi about it? I have found if there is ever somthing that is not right its best to talk to the mamasan at the least she makes sure my next time is much better.
[QUOTE=KingIpinni; 1382150]What ever your smokin (did you get it at USA gas mart) I want some! LOL! It is and will always be about the girls! Here is the issue, You are trying to minimize what is going on with this legislation. All you say is non factual / non sense! The city is not going to give up federal or state funding. The LE department are salavating for overtime pay. You and I both know its all about politics. The spas are not packing up and leaving without defending themselves! This will be done at someones expense "no doubt". Who knows who? Did you ever think that there are ongoing investigations?
Give these people some credit, though they are not as wise as your average mongerer, they can see the obvious! Why does Ada shake down all new cumers? Ask her what she called me? Undercover! All these owners fear the worst. If they didn't they wouldn't have a business very long! Quit putting your shit on Sun, you couldn't ask for a better group of ladies! All I will ask you is to post the link that Book Man has asked you for so many times! Korean Immigration Age Limitations? If you read this it shouldn't be a problem, even something close phool! And the only mental disorder I have is paranoid schizophrenia! Its under control though! BTW I have traveled quite a bit in the last several months and can tell you, there is alot of young Korean ladies working the Atlanta area! Aaaaaalot! I refer to this as working girl Monger Heaven! As always all I can say is be straight and we can all get along.
Happy Mongering[/QUOTE]If that's the case then why aren't they up here in Warren? If there are all these young Korean ladies working then why have we not seen any in the last 5 to 6 years like we back in the early 90's? And Bookman has only asked once but didn't like my links or reference. I've never had any problems with the ladies at Sun Spa. I have my favorites there in Jay, Bobbie, Mya, Nana, and Cho. And I have stood up for those ladies and others there when people try to bring them down. My shit is your shit and Sammi's that has been handed to me by the both of you. I'm just returning it back to the sender (s). I guess you don't like the flavor. And as always.
Happy Mongeling Phool
[QUOTE=Low Key;1382258]You would not be talking about the famous GOlD SPA in ATL would you? Is it still 300 a pop there?[/QUOTE]Wow, if that's the case then maybe it's the "Warren Standard" that keeps the young ones away.
According to WKBNdotcom story just posted. City has 7 days to prove case. Spa lawyers 7 days after city.
Happy Mongering.