General Reports

Sbjsister wants to play the safe way or not at all.

I have digits and password for safe members only.

For those with Utr providers they wish to help out with getting them customers but are worried about security issues or losing their exclusive rights to protect the providers best interest, simply give a unique "password" to each qualified person who you are comfortable with. Be easy enough to do, and you would know for sure which of the people actually saw the provider by using that password and if that same unique password was used by multiple people you would also easily be able to identify who shared the password. Simple idea, wouldn't be surprised if some don't already do this.

Hey dude,

Your mailbox is full, so I cannot reply.

[QUOTE=Benz1;6011032]Flower Child misses us and wants to return as a UTR, as long as it's safe.
Flower Child is a rare woman and doesn't mind sharing a face pic.

I have digits and password for safe members only.[/QUOTE]Small world. I want to high school with this fine lady.

I have a profile or two on some other sites hoping for a lady or two. I want to just say that these sites are just as dangerous as these fakes on stg or wherever. I have been contacted by 3 women today and they all asked about being generous. So I said if she could assist me that I'd help her out for her time. Then they send you a single picture and I asked all 3 for a specific confirmation pic so that I knew that she was legit. All of them quit talking instantly. One even stated she wanted to be a UTR just to draw me in. Be aware.

Pics attached of the 3 scams.

[QUOTE=Blackfire;6011065]For those with Utr providers they wish to help out with getting them customers but are worried about security issues or losing their exclusive rights to protect the providers best interest, simply give a unique "password" to each qualified person who you are comfortable with. Be easy enough to do, and you would know for sure which of the people actually saw the provider by using that password and if that same unique password was used by multiple people you would also easily be able to identify who shared the password. Simple idea, wouldn't be surprised if some don't already do this.[/QUOTE]So it appears some have concerns with this approach as the feeling is the handler would be able to specifically pinpoint who saw his UTR provider by screen name, and depending on the closeness the handler has with the UTR could even be able to match a face or vehicle with a screen name (I. E. I guess the Bodyworks cameras might have some people here a little more aware of the security camera concerns with their confidentiality). I hadn't really thought too much about that, I guess I assumed there was already a probability that some of the handlers already give unique passwords to each person.

But this then makes me have another question for those that wish to opine. Do you tell the ladies your screen name on this board, either just in discussion or as part of the verification process? Does it really matter if they know your screen name for any reason?

I suppose I should be the first to answer since it's my general question. As to the first, I do not tell anyone my screen name or mention this board. I also do not like and won't do verification that I feel would in any way expose my personal information, including my real screen name here. As to the 2nd question, I don't really know if there is a security issue with sharing my real screen name with an escort or massage parlor, that's why I'm looking for input from other members if they do or don't provide that info, and if they don't what do they see as the concerns? I suppose anyone seeing an UTR does because you call and say you were given the "password" from someone on this board so it would be natural to say "I'm john1234 from USA and Joesixpack gave me this password to see you". I suppose you could use another member name, how would she know?

Thanks to Benz for bring this discussion up and moving it to General Discussion. I hope we get some good feedback and robust discussion on the topic. I think many members probably have interest or opinions to share in a positive way. Let's try to keep it informative and civil and not get things moved to the fight thread please.

It's probably a long shot but I am looking for a pinup style model and a photographer if anyone knows of any who could do a small shoot with a motorcycle.

Check out the above for Grand Rapids.

If the redhead named Logan is still on she would be perfect and has done pinup modeling. Have a few pictures from her. If she is not on the site, probably one you can find on there to do nude or non nude.

You can find a photographer on there as well. Good luck

[QUOTE=Grizzly27;6017705]It's probably a long shot but I am looking for a pinup style model and a photographer if anyone knows of any who could do a small shoot with a motorcycle.[/QUOTE].

Thanks for the info.

I took a look didn't see her. Most of the profiles haven't been updated in a year or more.

[QUOTE=BoatGuy1;6017791]Check out the above for Grand Rapids.

If the redhead named Logan is still on she would be perfect and has done pinup modeling. Have a few pictures from her. If she is not on the site, probably one you can find on there to do nude or non nude.

You can find a photographer on there as well. Good luck

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Well. Thank you for a thought provoking subject that does more than illicit drama. I wish I could start over in this hobby with all I've learned in the time period I've partaken. I would not share my screen name as I have to this point. I know you and other posters tend to mock my alliterations and long winded diatribes. But I also receive accolades from many PMs that state the reviews are both wildly entertaining and vividly Informative. Positive to negative responses run about 4:1. Not a bad success rate. But I do face some backlash from unexpected sources. Apparently my specifics shared posts results in what one provider called "Gene wannabes". "They show up looking or smelling like what you say they should, bringing the same favorite treats you do, and they expect to be treated like a long-term client. " I had no idea that could be a bad thing. I honestly thought if a provider loathes the smell of cigarettes, it was a kindness on my part to share that tidbit. But it wasn't appreciated and I still don't completely understand why. But that explains my track record with the fairer sex, always guessing wrong.

So if my screen name was more anonymous I could operate in a more stealthy mode, especially if I made mistakes. Currently I do not have any plausible deniability. And I've paid dearly for that tactical error. That being said, I also have been handsomely rewarded by those providers who appreciate my glowing reports. So it's not a total defeat in the Genoverse. I continue to be a work in progress, learning from so many of you willing to share tidbits and suggestions. I've been painfully open and honest on this board with my failings and misgivings. And for the most part, that honesty has been appreciated by so many of you. Some of the same men that I vehemently disagree with from time to time have provided me a priceless nugget to help me chart a different course (BoatGuy, Benz, Tommey, Arish, Monger1, JMaul, Purpman, and even Blackfire to name a few). So it's an interesting journey, isn't it?

As to the point of UTRs I will offer this opinion: not all mongers should see UTRs. If absolute anonymity is your line in the sand, then don't get a password (or whatever method is used) to see a UTR. Be content with escorts and massage parlors where you can use whatever name your feeble mind invents. But a UTR is a special woman. She is one with either a short term need, or one who isn't sure about entry into a dangerous career choice, or one who has community connections that CANNOT ever know her secrets. If one of us wants to see this special woman, we need to be willing to step out of the shadows. Think of the high end traveling escorts that visit here. Most of them require something in the way of screening that links us not just to our screen name, but our legal name. That's a step not a few on here willing take to see the high end product.

Also, dudes that have fetishes and weird expectations should not see a UTR. There are plenty of providers that advertise willingness to accommodate those fetishes and deviations. Use them. Stay away from the young single mother just looking to get a new apartment or her car repaired. Simple. Go to a pro for your needs.

Ok. My rant is over as my bourbon is empty. Hopefully this is taken in the spirit it was intended.

G2.

[QUOTE=Blackfire;6016319]So it appears some have concerns with this approach as the feeling is the handler would be able to specifically pinpoint who saw his UTR provider by screen name, and depending on the closeness the handler has with the UTR could even be able to match a face or vehicle with a screen name (I. E. I guess the Bodyworks cameras might have some people here a little more aware of the security camera concerns with their confidentiality). I hadn't really thought too much about that, I guess I assumed there was already a probability that some of the handlers already give unique passwords to each person.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blackfire;6016319]
…Do you tell the ladies your screen name on this board, either just in discussion or as part of the verification process? Does it really matter if they know your screen name for any reason? [/QUOTE]I have told providers my user name because I'm not ashamed of any of my posts. Those are my words, my opinions, and my depictions of escort encounters, so I stand by them. In the end it's a personal choice if and when you want to divulge your USA name. Does it really matter? I'm sure it matters a lot to the guys that post needless drama, make derogatory statements and outright lies. Because that's accountability for your words and actions, something that is severely lacking on the internet.

[QUOTE=Blackfire;6016319]So it appears some have concerns … handler would be able to specifically pinpoint who saw his UTR provider by screen name … <edited>
[/QUOTE]IMO, if you are asking another guy to trust YOU to be given a UTR's contact info then you better not have concerns about your user name anonymity. If you do, then you probably shouldn't be trusted to see the UTR. However, as I've told many before, just because I gave a password doesn't mean you have to use it. If the UTR agrees to see you without a password that's between you and her. Just don't share her info with others unless you have her permission. Unfortunately though, there are many on this board who will mistreat women, so a password system may serve as a deterrent to those A-holes from crossing the line.

[QUOTE=Gene2;6017897] … I will offer this opinion: not all mongers should see UTRs. If absolute anonymity is your line in the sand, then don't get a password (or whatever method is used) to see a UTR. Be content with escorts and massage parlors where you can use whatever name your feeble mind invents. … <edited>

Also, dudes that have fetishes and weird expectations should not see a UTR. … Go to a pro for your needs.[/QUOTE]Right on G2. I prefer to stick in the Sugaring world and and it's shocking to hear how many nice SBs are being approached and treated like $20 crack ****** from A-hole mongers. Not that SW deserve to be mistreated but you get my point.

A hat tippo to PrivateParts for writing a perfect guide to proper UTR Etiquette in the New Member Guide.

He seems to be our resident expert on UTRs.

Thanks PP.

Tempting, wife home, I'll get her next time. Could be a new UTR.
Her BF broke up with her yesterday and she's ready to slutt it out. She'll show him and hopefully us.
Always searching.

[QUOTE=Benz1;6022622]Tempting, wife home, I'll get her next time. Could be a new UTR.
Her BF broke up with her yesterday and she's ready to slutt it out. She'll show him and hopefully us.
Always searching.[/QUOTE]Who is this and how do we help her out.

[QUOTE=Benz1;6022622]Tempting, wife home, I'll get her next time. Could be a new UTR.
Her BF broke up with her yesterday and she's ready to slutt it out. She'll show him and hopefully us.
Always searching.[/QUOTE]Bring her to the game my friend.