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[QUOTE=StStephen;2644161]Never forget. You are dealing with SWs. These are not stable young women. Nothing they do should surprise you. I don't mean this as a put down, just a fact. SWs are like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get. That's what makes if fun and exciting.[/QUOTE]Some change within days or even less. To build a better and more stable list of customers they should try to keep one number for longer than a few days.
[QUOTE=StStephen;2644161]Never forget. You are dealing with SWs. These are not stable young women. Nothing they do should surprise you. I don't mean this as a put down, just a fact. SWs are like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get. That's what makes if fun and exciting.[/QUOTE]I think I'm going to stick to mps foe now.
[QUOTE=Hadez;2643289]Sometimes even the ones who look good start to act like a wack job in the car.
I have learned it is best they leave with 10-20 then to stay and cause more problems.[/QUOTE]By giving them 10-20 bucks is the reason these girls act like whack jobs, they expect a "reward. " They're behavior shouldn't be tolerated, period.
The good SW's almost always seem to disappear fast. This why when I find a new hot one I see them as often as possible before they are gone. Have never been able to figure out why.
[QUOTE=StStephen;2644161]Never forget. You are dealing with SWs. These are not stable young women. Nothing they do should surprise you. I don't mean this as a put down, just a fact. SWs are like a box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get. That's what makes if fun and exciting.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Hargow20;2645586]The good SW's almost always seem to disappear fast. This why when I find a new hot one I see them as often as possible before they are gone. Have never been able to figure out why.[/QUOTE]This is SOOOOO true. I met a hottie three weeks ago that gave me a great BJ. While I'm enjoying the suck job and rubbing her ass and fingering her pussy, I can't help but think that I will never see her again, because that is how it works.
She had no phone, so I gave her my number. She told me she really needed money so she would be out a lot, but three weeks later I have not seen her or heard from her.
I met another great oral artist downtown two weeks ago. One of those "Oh, I'm always out" types. Have not seen her since. She says she's been downtown working for ten years. If it took that long for me to spot her the first time, how long will it take to find her again? This is Cindy with the dark hair, if anyone knows her. Real sweet and great blowjobs.
The flip side of this is that the ones you don't want to see are always out and always calling.
[QUOTE=Mongoose7;2645253]By giving them 10-20 bucks is the reason these girls act like whack jobs, they expect a "reward. " They're behavior shouldn't be tolerated, period.[/QUOTE]This is the truth. I had to kick a girl out of my car last week and she just would not leave. I thought she was someone else, and when she hopped in, I realized that I had a shitty session with her a few months ago.
I told her to leave, I flat out told her that our last time together fucking SUCKED because of her attitude and non-stop greedy nagging for more money, but she wouldn't go. I finally told her I would give her $5 if she left right now, and she wanted to negotiate for $10.
It ended with me driving away and telling her she could leave whenever she wanted, but she might end up stranded far away from here and having to walk home with no money. I'm not giving some looney tune $20 for nothing, just to encourage her to do it to someone else. In the end, they are wasting their own time, not mine. If there is no payoff with me, they might be missing a payoff with someone else. The real fact is, girls who act like this know that their payoffs are few and far between because they've burned everyone in town, so they need to get paid when they have an opportunity. They will never learn that doing a good job gets you return customers, and that's where the real money is.
[QUOTE=SuckerBill;2646308]This is the truth. I had to kick a girl out of my car last week and she just would not leave. I thought she was someone else, and when she hopped in, I realized that I had a shitty session with her a few months ago.
I told her to leave, I flat out told her that our last time together fucking SUCKED because of her attitude and non-stop greedy nagging for more money, but she wouldn't go. I finally told her I would give her $5 if she left right now, and she wanted to negotiate for $10.
It ended with me driving away and telling her she could leave whenever she wanted, but she might end up stranded far away from here and having to walk home with no money. I'm not giving some looney tune $20 for nothing, just to encourage her to do it to someone else. In the end, they are wasting their own time, not mine. If there is no payoff with me, they might be missing a payoff with someone else. The real fact is, girls who act like this know that their payoffs are few and far between because they've burned everyone in town, so they need to get paid when they have an opportunity. They will never learn that doing a good job gets you return customers, and that's where the real money is.[/QUOTE]I had a crazy chick refuse to get out. She too wanted me to pay her to leave but I refused.
I started to drive and told her I was going to San Deigo. She said "fine lets go".
I get on the freeway to call her bluff. After about 10 minutes I was getting really worried as she was obviously batshit crazy.
5 more minutes she completely snapped and lost her mind.
At freeway speeds she grabs the gear shift and slams it into park (I thought there would be a hardware block but nope, it went to park).
My car didn't come to a stop until I applied the brakes (which I did. . hard).
Once stopped I removed her from my car.
Once removed I thought my transmission would explode or melt. It was a little difficult to get it out of park but it went into gear just fine.
That was a good 15 k milies ago and I've not had any issues. Got to love Japanese cars (made in Kentucky).
Looking back its not good to call a prostitutes bluff. Just pay a little money to make the problem go away.
If you can afford to monger then you can afford to cut your loses and avoid dangerous situations.
I have never given a SW money to get out of my car. The best thing to do is pull over and walk around open the door and tell them to get out.
[QUOTE=SuckerBill;2646308]This is the truth. I had to kick a girl out of my car last week and she just would not leave. I thought she was someone else, and when she hopped in, I realized that I had a shitty session with her a few months ago.
I told her to leave, I flat out told her that our last time together fucking SUCKED because of her attitude and non-stop greedy nagging for more money, but she wouldn't go. I finally told her I would give her $5 if she left right now, and she wanted to negotiate for $10.
It ended with me driving away and telling her she could leave whenever she wanted, but she might end up stranded far away from here and having to walk home with no money. I'm not giving some looney tune $20 for nothing, just to encourage her to do it to someone else. In the end, they are wasting their own time, not mine. If there is no payoff with me, they might be missing a payoff with someone else. The real fact is, girls who act like this know that their payoffs are few and far between because they've burned everyone in town, so they need to get paid when they have an opportunity. They will never learn that doing a good job gets you return customers, and that's where the real money is.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ChrisPoontang;2646346]I had a crazy chick refuse to get out. She too wanted me to pay her to leave but I refused.
I started to drive and told her I was going to San Deigo. She said "fine lets go".
I get on the freeway to call her bluff. After about 10 minutes I was getting really worried as she was obviously batshit crazy.
5 more minutes she completely snapped and lost her mind.
At freeway speeds she grabs the gear shift and slams it into park (I thought there would be a hardware block but nope, it went to park).
My car didn't come to a stop until I applied the brakes (which I did. . hard).
Once stopped I removed her from my car.
Once removed I thought my transmission would explode or melt. It was a little difficult to get it out of park but it went into gear just fine.
That was a good 15 k milies ago and I've not had any issues. Got to love Japanese cars (made in Kentucky).
Looking back its not good to call a prostitutes bluff. Just pay a little money to make the problem go away.
If you can afford to monger then you can afford to cut your loses and avoid dangerous situations.[/QUOTE]That is my fear when driving with a crazy person. If I was in her shoes, that's what I would do, slam the gear into PARK and let the driver suffer. It really is a Mexican standoff.
Hargow20, you should NEVER get out of your car and leave a girl you don't know in it. It gives her the chance to lock you out or do some damage. I stand by my crowding method where you slide towards them until they panic and hop out or until you can open her door and nudge her out.
I don't believe in encouraging shitty behavior. Yes, we can afford to lose $10 or $20 and call it the cost of doing business. But, you have to squash negative behavior otherwise you are just encouraging her to spread it to all of your brothers on this board. Bros before hoes, gentlemen. We report bad service here to spare each other the problems we encounter. Why, then, would you encourage bad service by paying a girl for being shitty, thereby encouraging her to do it to someone else?
Fridays are not the time to cruise downtown since that nightclub opened in the middle of Agatha. There are some smokin' hot girls going in and out of there all night, and they dress like street hookers do in the movies. The club goes until 5 AM or maybe even longer. Not a good scene.
I tried Saturday night, and between the freeway traffic and the downtown clubs, it is way too crowded to cruise. Plus, with LAPD doing all the DUI checks, it's better to avoid downtown until after 2 AM if you are going to cruise.
No girls worth the cruise on either night.
I did cruise Sunday night, and there were a few interesting girls. Unfortunately, there were many cops on patrol.
[QUOTE=Hargow20;2645586]The good SW's almost always seem to disappear fast. This why when I find a new hot one I see them as often as possible before they are gone. Have never been able to figure out why.[/QUOTE]I have a couple of theories on this phenomenon, because I've known girls that all these things have happened to:
1. The good ones please one man so well that he falls in love with her and moves her off the street and into his home. Why not? She gives good head, he likes the sex, she hasn't been ruined by the street, and it's nice to find a good woman. Regular girls are a pain, which is why we go to hookers. If you find a good hooker, we want to see her again, so why not move her in? It works for some guys.
2. Something scares her off the streets. She's new, so she doesn't have street toughness just yet, so a roust by the cops, a bad date or an encounter with a street lowlife could scare her into thinking this new career choice has been a mistake.
3. Some helpful douchebag tells her that with her looks and skills, she can make more money in a better area, with an ad on CL or BP, or with an agency.
[QUOTE=SuckerBill;2648636]I have a couple of theories on this phenomenon, because I've known girls that all these things have happened to:
[/QUOTE]I always thought it was just the pimps rotating the girls around to another city.
[QUOTE=SuckerBill;2648636]I have a couple of theories on this phenomenon, because I've known girls that all these things have happened to:
1. The good ones please one man so well that he falls in love with her and moves her off the street and into his home. Why not? She gives good head, he likes the sex, she hasn't been ruined by the street, and it's nice to find a good woman. Regular girls are a pain, which is why we go to hookers. If you find a good hooker, we want to see her again, so why not move her in? It works for some guys.
2. Something scares her off the streets. She's new, so she doesn't have street toughness just yet, so a roust by the cops, a bad date or an encounter with a street lowlife could scare her into thinking this new career choice has been a mistake.
3. Some helpful douchebag tells her that with her looks and skills, she can make more money in a better area, with an ad on CL or BP, or with an agency.[/QUOTE]The weak ones get scared off (2) 50-60% of lost workers.
Pimps take the best ones to the stable (3) 40-50% of lost workers.
Worker's always work, but Captain Save-a-ho's will always get worked in the end. (1) Falling in love with a worker ends bad every time. Maybe 5-10% tops, of lost workers.
Just an opinion.
I appreciate the response and to be honest most senior members are useless, have bad connections and I think I get pm by more senior members needing new Intel constantly. Well I'm speaking in content as if I'm not a senior I just realized I became one a week ago. Too many of these treat being a senior member as a secret society of sorts.
[QUOTE=Jayare1990;2639405]Scope out ninty second and fig by numero uno market. Always see a young latina girl nice body around midnight. You can see cars pulling up as she makes it to the corner. You may have to park and wait but by then she's been creamed. She's cute maybe 25.[/QUOTE]
We've all heard of Taco Tuesday. Well, last night was No-Taco Tuesday. No girls, tons of cops. Even undercover was being glaringly obvious, driving up and down Agatha with the spotlights on. On 7th, there were cops pulling people over up and down the street.
I think something was going on, because I couldn't drive three blocks without seeing red and blue lights or a cop car making a crazy turn. This was around 11 PM. I didn't last long.