Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Loader401; 1155753]I was graciously given a place to check by another fellow hobbiest. His experiance was not at all like mine. The AMP is locatede in falls church 6400 seven corners pl. (Evergreen Wellness). I went in with high hopes and left dismayed. .80 was the hour fee and I gladly paid. The TS was wonderful, the massage was wonderful, the precursor to the flip was wonderful. Upon flipping, the first words out my provider's mouth. Her name is Sara- was "how much money do you have?" Now in the decade that I have played this game I have never been asked that question. It set the tone for the rest of the session. Now I asked what was on the menu and she replied "how much money do you have?" I was going to ask the question again but she proceeded to play with me and my little brain accidentaly spoke up and told $. Granted I came prepared for the full menu. As I always do- but I rarely partake in. She then proceeds with a standard nova how do you do and that was it. Before I was completed she tells me other places like Peach closed because they offer more and she tells me that she doesn't do it. Now after I completed and as she cleans me up she then proceeds to tell me that she doesn't know me well but "next time" she will treat me better and give me more. Total 180 on me. I think she got stupid for a sec since she spent 5 mins telling me the opposite. I think she messed up her game. Anyways, she asks for the tip and I only give. 6 to her. I would have only given. 4 because the attitude but she went a little bit above, not by much. She gets angry and demands more. All in all, I ended up almost taking. 2 away because she is pissing me off from rushing the flip, demanding more money, to the bs line of I don't do it and 5 mins later saying next time I do more. So I stand my ground to the pushy almost forceful provider and threaten to take more money away and talking to mamasan. She backed down and took my original gracious offer of. 6 and said goodbye. So out of pocket. 8 for an hr, .6 finish for a total of $.4. As always, YMMV and as a lesson to newbies,

1) Intel is intel. Be thankful for whatever you get. Some fellow monger is trying to help you out. Even though he can't promise you the same, be thankful.

2) Stand your ground. Don't fall shy to a pushy provider. If they don't deliver on your agreement or they rush you out and then demand more money, don't pay extra. You may feel bad at first but when you walk out, you will be happier with each step. If you were in a restaurant and you waiter didn't bring you your beer, and you food was cold, and he charged for the beer and he wanted more tip for waiting on you, would you give him extra tip? Pay the minimum and walk out. If you need to, ask for the mamasan.

3) YMMV is true.

Be safe and happy mongering,

Loader[/QUOTE]I was thinking to say that you should have stood your ground even more, but under the circumstances, you held on and didn't get completely abused, and it's easy for someone who wasn't in that situation to say what he "would" have done.

Having been there, I know there are ten things going through your mind when getting the face-to-face hard sell: did she do something special, did she do extra work on a sore spot, do I want to come back, did the going rate increase and I didn't notice, am I confused about something, did I give her reason to expect more, etc.

In the end, all you can do is hold the line as well as possible, get out, warn others, and don't go back.

Welcome to the club, the "next time" club. This has ruined the game for me her to the point I do not visit very often. I would run once a week or two but I have been disappointed too many times and do not like the feeling. Any good that comes out, I still leave with that bad taste.

I know some might say the ladies need to protect themselves but we also need to protect ourselves. The one con these ladies have is trying to make us think it is OK to squeeze with the hands but not OK to squeeze with the sugar walls. FYI, same thing in the eyes of the law. The hand shake can send them to jail as well.

This con is the game they play in this area because we allow it. At least you did nt give in too the $ and I will not say anything negative if you gave her what you thought the massage was worth the tip, I support that thinking.

The next time should not work for them; them last time I heard it was at Green and I told them next time when they asked for the TIP.

Good luck and hopefully this place will get back to business as it was in 2003 and bring back a more diverse bunch including asian youth and latins.

Thanks for your time.

[QUOTE=Loader401; 1155753]. Now after I completed and as she cleans me up she then proceeds to tell me that she doesn't know me well but "next time" she will treat me better and give me more. Total 180 on me. I think she got stupid for a sec since she spent 5 mins telling me the opposite.

Loader[/QUOTE]

I stopped by mwc last nite. Not what I expected. I can't recommend. Paid. 8 for an hr. Standard nova after some persuasian. .6 tip because she was nice. Won't repeat. There, I just busted my cherry. .

[QUOTE=Bunker Buster; 1155934 ]I was thinking. <snip .

When getting the face-to-face hard sell:. Do I want to come back.[/QUOTE]I find BB's words in his post very well stated. When determining the gratuity on a visit that was not everything you wanted, always ask yourself "do I want to come back". And if the answer is "not really" it is much easier to hold the tip line when service was no more (or was less) than expected.

Be nice to the ladies. But also be fair to yourself.

PA

It's not quite a mp, it's just a girl in a small apartment in falls church with a massage table. She said she doesn't live there hence the lack of a bed and the only furniture being a massage table and a couch. Massage was very weak and I was dowsed in baby oil. On the flip she did a little light rubbing on my legs and arm and then went into HJ. Roaming and licking was allowed up north and some roaming down south, but lets just say my hands stayed dry. It didn't seem as though she offered extras.

I don't think I would repeat as the price is high for the lack of massage quality and extras available

Went there yesterday. Had a great time. Wonderful table shower followed by a long nice massage.

The girl was funny, friendly with a great attitude. Nothing rushed and I felt very special. On leaving I got a kiss and my ass pinched! Ha ha ha.

Will go back.

[QUOTE=Rooster454; 1156100]It's not quite a mp, it's just a girl in a small apartment in falls church with a massage table. She said she doesn't live there hence the lack of a bed and the only furniture being a massage table and a couch. Massage was very weak and I was dowsed in baby oil. On the flip she did a little light rubbing on my legs and arm and then went into HJ. Roaming and licking was allowed up north and some roaming down south, but lets just say my hands stayed dry. It didn't seem as though she offered extras.

I don't think I would repeat as the price is high for the lack of massage quality and extras available[/QUOTE]I forgot the link.

[url]http://nova.backpage.com/BodyRubs/amorous-latinas-with-all-the-right-skills-to-take-good-care-of-you-25/4600767[/url]

[QUOTE=Loader401;1155753]...The AMP is locatede in falls church 6400 seven corners pl. (Evergreen Wellness). I went in with high hopes and left dismayed. .80 was the hour fee and I gladly paid. The TS was wonderful, the massage was wonderful, the precursor to the flip was wonderful. Upon flipping, the first words out my provider's mouth.her name is Sara- was "how much money do you have?" [/QUOTE]If I were asked that, my reply would instantly be "That depends on what is on the menu". Though I usually don't bring any extra, since they can't shake you down for money you don't have. (However, if I call ahead, and I know the girl, I may bring extra.)

[QUOTE=Loader401; 1155753]I was graciously given a place to check by another fellow hobbiest. His experiance was not at all like mine. The AMP is locatede in falls church 6400 seven corners pl. (Evergreen Wellness). I went in with high hopes and left dismayed. .80 was the hour fee and I gladly paid. The TS was wonderful, the massage was wonderful, the precursor to the flip was wonderful. Upon flipping, the first words out my provider's mouth. Her name is Sara- was "how much money do you have?" Now in the decade that I have played this game I have never been asked that question. It set the tone for the rest of the session. Now I asked what was on the menu and she replied "how much money do you have?" I was going to ask the question again but she proceeded to play with me and my little brain accidentaly spoke up and told $. Granted I came prepared for the full menu. As I always do- but I rarely partake in. She then proceeds with a standard nova how do you do and that was it. Before I was completed she tells me other places like Peach closed because they offer more and she tells me that she doesn't do it. Now after I completed and as she cleans me up she then proceeds to tell me that she doesn't know me well but "next time" she will treat me better and give me more. Total 180 on me. I think she got stupid for a sec since she spent 5 mins telling me the opposite. I think she messed up her game. Anyways, she asks for the tip and I only give. 6 to her. I would have only given. 4 because the attitude but she went a little bit above, not by much. She gets angry and demands more. All in all, I ended up almost taking. 2 away because she is pissing me off from rushing the flip, demanding more money, to the bs line of I don't do it and 5 mins later saying next time I do more. So I stand my ground to the pushy almost forceful provider and threaten to take more money away and talking to mamasan. She backed down and took my original gracious offer of. 6 and said goodbye. So out of pocket. 8 for an hr, .6 finish for a total of $.4. As always, YMMV and as a lesson to newbies,

1) Intel is intel. Be thankful for whatever you get. Some fellow monger is trying to help you out. Even though he can't promise you the same, be thankful.

2) Stand your ground. Don't fall shy to a pushy provider. If they don't deliver on your agreement or they rush you out and then demand more money, don't pay extra. You may feel bad at first but when you walk out, you will be happier with each step. If you were in a restaurant and you waiter didn't bring you your beer, and you food was cold, and he charged for the beer and he wanted more tip for waiting on you, would you give him extra tip? Pay the minimum and walk out. If you need to, ask for the mamasan.

3) YMMV is true.

Be safe and happy mongering,

Loader[/QUOTE]Same thing happened to me at Swan across from Skyline. I also was unprepared and made the same generous offer. Afterwards she promised more the next time I visit. TS and massage was mediocre so I will not be back.

[QUOTE=FromTheDMV;1156011]I stopped by mwc last nite. Not what I expected. I can't recommend. Paid. 8 for an hr. Standard nova after some persuasian. .6 tip because she was nice. Won't repeat. There, I just busted my cherry.[/QUOTE]Can you explain why you would not go back?

I'm just curious because I went there less than 2 weeks ago and really enjoyed my visit. Read my review, was it nothing like that or it just wasn't your place?

After a positive review posted here on USG a little while ago I thought I would give this establishment a try as well as the recommended provider. So I did my due diligence and off I was.

A nice facility with a tucked away and somewhat private entrance, though the main door of the building faces the road. I was pleasantly surprised with spa facility offerings which were somewhat nicer than most.

My provider's name was Yo-yo, she was as described, early 30 something with a nice set of D's and I might add very nice long back hair that gave me some interesting thoughts before my massage started, though my fantasy never did come to full reality.

The table shower was above average but in more of a therapeutic type of way, but still a nice surprise! A trip to the sauna was offered afterward to which I declined.

Back to the room, a nice relaxing massage with the addition of lots of warm moist towels used during the session. I found this very pleasant indeed but I can see how some might find it a bit bothersome. I only mention this so you can opt out if you wish by telling the masseuse before you lay face down into the head cradle becoming completely unaware of what's coming next as peripheral vision is limited unless you lift your head up.

Now to the flip; a "standard NOVA" finish but with a twist which made things interesting, think Russian but with fingers in assistance with ice cream cone interludes. Well, you get the picture. Nice!

Cleaned up and dressed and I was good to go, and that's when it got weird (alluded too also here in review post #4790) , ie *compensation.

This unpleasantness lasted for about 2 minutes to which I held steadfast, keeping to the appropriate compensation level for services rendered. Unfortunately an epilogue to a nice main event left me in somewhat of an annoyed state.

As I have never been a big fan of compensation in plain view, under the watch or eyeglasses or whatever but have been OK with a discussion beforehand or even during. But unfortunately in this case, no discussion ever came and I was not about to start one either. If she had higher "above market" expectations, she should have mentioned them at the start, as some who try, do.

These girls know the score and every once in a while you get one that becomes an over zealous entrepreneur. Sadly, I know times are tough but they are for everyone. She told me she was fairly new, so I hope her next interaction goes better, as it's a pity to let this talent slip away.

*.6/.8/1

MnV

[QUOTE=Rooster454; 1156428]Can you explain why you would not go back?

I'm just curious because I went there less than 2 weeks ago and really enjoyed my visit. Read my review, was it nothing like that or it just wasn't your place? [/QUOTE]Yes to both. The provider insisted that they didn't provide the services I was looking for. I am on the young looking side so she said more than once that the ladies there were not young & wouldn't appeal to me anyway. Recommended I go elsewhere. She was an attractive older woman (early 40s?) so I didn't mind.

[QUOTE=FromTheDMV;1156610]Yes to both. The provider insisted that they didn't provide the services I was looking for. I am on the young looking side so she said more than once that the ladies there were not young & wouldn't appeal to me anyway. Recommended I go elsewhere. She was an attractive older woman (early 40s?) so I didn't mind.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the response and sorry to hear you didn't get what you wanted. I'm surprised to hear that they told you they don't offer thoe types of services, the girl I had was young maybe late 20's and on the flip just went into those services before I even said anything about them. I'm on the young side too only being 26, but I look like I'm 20 and that's what the girls always say when I say I'm 26 and the girl I had was very appealing.

Maybe they thought you were a cop?

[QUOTE=Rooster454; 1156951]Thanks for the response and sorry to hear you didn't get what you wanted. I'm surprised to hear that they told you they don't offer thoe types of services, the girl I had was young maybe late 20's and on the flip just went into those services before I even said anything about them. I'm on the young side too only being 26, but I look like I'm 20 and that's what the girls always say when I say I'm 26 and the girl I had was very appealing.

Maybe they thought you were a cop?[/QUOTE]Wow, maybe I will try again in the near future. I have been asked before if I were LE, I work out a lot so I think that may be one of the reasons.

I have visited most of the massage parlors in Northern Va over the past 5 years. The FS ones have moved to condos.

Considering I won't be going back here is my review of my favourite.

I arrived at the vienna condo. The same Chinese family runs the one in arlington as well. They usually bring in women from restarants or out of state.

I arrived and the women who was working was ugly even for Chinese. About 28. Not feminine at all. Tall about 5'11, and the killer was hairy pits. Gross. Boner killer for me.

Closed my eyes and tried to think of the chick who was on the cover of the new SI swimsuit cover.

She got undressed and asked what I liked. I said well, I like seeing a girl on all fours with an apple in her mouth.

She either didn't understand or pretended not to hear me. Light massage and then time to do the deed. Whipped out the condom and startied to bang her like the ugly dog she is.

About 5 mins into she start screaming and goes Bat Sh*t. She said you too dominating. Don't like. What was

She expecting. Us to cuddle? Long story short, she calls the mamsan and I end only paying 100 instead of the 160 because I didn't finish. She is still screaming at me. For what I don't know. I go to the sink and get a glass of water. I then dump the water on head and walk out.

Fun Wed. They usually have 25-45 decent looking Chinese women. Not this time though. I am guess I am banned.

For now. Mamasan will let me know when I get reprieve.