"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

So this report will be a little shorter. Only one real POT to mention. Plus I am going to only report on babies with activity. So I am enjoying my new regimen of relaxing into my three favorites and exploring my adventures with them only. I had two POTs last week that contacted me. And they both turned out to be flakes crazy or probably a little of both. Believe me there was little sadness when they evaporated and eliminated themselves from my very busy attention. Once again my membership on SDforme has expired and I only have the limited ability to look or to respond to full members. I have not even been on since last week. But hey it was the weekend so I took a peek. And low and behold there was a cute little MILF to check out.

REVVO_POT3: So she is 37 YO White divorced little southern MILF. She is 5'2" firm body, really nice rack, blond, very talkative and seems quite sincere. I will call her an amateur but she has met men on there a couple of times. She tells me she is looking for a single SD and is really not about the money. I like what I hear already. She seems to really know what she wants and is educated, but she is down on her luck and went through a serious illness lost her job and is trying to get back on her feet. I am giving her a 8/9/8? For now. She is really into working out and health, nice muscle tone about 120 lbs I would say. I am not putting a lot of eggs in this basket. But I am an eternal optimist. So we shall see. She is a good communicator and she is very passionate and affectionate. These are things that I like and pre-qualify for. She is ready to meet. So I am stealing a couple of hours tomorrow to do a M&G. She lives in another city that I travel to for business often. And I would like to have a regular "shot of ass" in this city waiting for me when I go there. So she is coming to me. So I will give her gas money tomorrow. She has not brought up money or wanting money or any other crass bullshit that some of these GPS babies try. We shall see after tomorrow.

REVVO_SB2: I met with my little Brazilian baby and she very was good to go this Friday. We met and had brunch first. She is a bartender so works late some nights. Got her fed. But no sugar and no gifts. Other than me LOL. She is so pleasant and fun and funny. Full of life. Like I have said before she is very sexy and very cute. But not a perfect head. I give her a 7/9/10/10. When we went to the restaurant she was wearing this little short skirt and a very small top. Believe me she is showing off the goods. It is interesting to see all of the people men and women alike watching her when she comes bouncing in. I am always amazed. Damn she looked good. It was not the classic beauty. It was the exotic looks, the sex appeal, the totally unaffected attitude. Wow that is some powerful stuff. We get back to her cute little gated apartment. And things just keep getting better. We fuck and suck and fuck and suck. Three hours and three nutts later and I am drained. She came so hard and it was absolutely beautiful. We will be seeing each other again soon.

REVVO_SB6: So I saw my little girl next door twice last week. At my insistence since we are both busy and we usually only meet once a week. But she is having some money problems. And I want to help her. I mean she is having serious problems. And she still does not ask me for money. And I have offered to help. This my friends is a quality woman. We met and talked and had a great little fuck dogie style. She is very very tight and she gets hurt easily. But she is a very enthusiastic little lover though. In fact I just let her do the thrusting and she works my cock with her perfect little ass and I don't have to do anything but slap that ass until it is red. I can feel her pussy grabbing onto my cock as she works it. She comes hard and often. On our second date I did her missionary style and she came really hard. I love love love orgasmic women. When we got done my balls were soaking wet. And I had put a pillow under her little ass to prop it up. Needless to say the pillow was quite wet also. We talked a lot. Pillow talk with her is great. We are getting quite close. I must say I really like this chick and of the three great fucks she comes in third in fuck skills. She is just less experienced and more shy. But she is learning. But as a quality woman with good attitude she is first. I call her a woman she is only 24YO White. 5'2" she is currtently at 9/8/9/7 for now. We are scheduled for Thursday of next week.

REVVO_SB7: I met with my little Venezuelan on Thursday and really had a great time. We went out to a little place close by that is not known by many people and rented a jetski. We had a blast. Then retired to her apartment for some good luvin. It was awesome as ever. She fucks so good. In fact she is the best fuck I have ever had. Every time feels like it is our first. Cumming repeatedly and cumming hard. It is impressive. She just purrs to me afterward. Ohh baby you make me cum so hard. She is literally shaking forever after we are done. It is amazing. I love seeing her Cum and I cum harder longer with her than any of the others. We are scheduled for Tuesday of next week. My week is filling up quick. LOL

So that is my report for now. I will say it again. I am so damn lucky. I feel it and I appreciate it. The gratitude is so important. And I let my babies know it. And they appreciate my feedback. Lets hear from some of the other brothers out there. How about all of these new brothers and lurkers. Come on out of the shadows and join us. This is fucking awesome. I can also tell you that journaling your exploits helps sharpen your game and better understand and focus your efforts. Try it.

Lets be careful out there.

REVVO

I had three M&G's this week, with results that ran the gamut.

POT1 for the week was 29, white, and just getting out of a divorce. I sent her my intro letter that mentions $ per visit and she seemed eager to meet. From our email / text conversations I learned (and believed) that she was on her initial foray into the sugar world. We had originally planned on Sunday afternoon, but when I texted that morning, silence. I wrote her off as a flake, and decided to move on. On Monday I got an message from her with effuse apologies and asking to reschedule for that night. I quickly agreed and set a time for drinks and appetizers at my usual spot. Upon arrival it was clear that her pictures were from a while back. She was very nice, a little nervous, but we had a good conversation. She told me that she had recently lost 50 pounds and was still working out. She looked okay in clothes, but still a little heavier than I care for. She seemed nervous but willing to move to the next step if I wanted. I have decided to be more discriminating in my hunt, so end the end I gave her a polite hug goodnight and decided to move on.

POT2 was the one I mentioned in my last report as potential 10/10. I eagerly followed up with her and we set lunch for Wednesday afternoon. She is also white and 29, 5 feet tall and maybe 100 lbs. I met her at a restaurant near her place and we sat and chatted for about over an hour, with good connection and lots of encouraging signs. Near the end of lunch we talked briefly about the details of the arrangement, which I had already put forth as $ per meet in the intro letter. She seemed fine with that and very much a newbie. As we left I was ready to suggest a second meeting and delicately bring up a trip to the FC when she invited me over to watch a movie at her place. Of course! We got back to her small apartment and put Netflix on. I suffered through a horror flic (not my genre) in the hope of moving it on. As the movie progressed we gradually cuddled closer on the couch. When it was over, a make out session ensued that eventually moved to her bedroom. Later, we went out for wine and tapa's and sat for two hours. When I drove her home, I invited myself in for another session. All in all I spent 8-9 hours with her and gave her the agreed upon $. (I spent another $ on wine and food but consider that money well spent. A perfect day. We agreed to meet again on Saturday, but she canceled. She has continued to text, and asked to reschedule for Monday. My take on this whole experience is that she is new to the bowl, but not brand-new! I suspect another SD is in the picture, from the cancellation and a few slips she made during our conversation (she is a chatterbox!). I am going to ignore that suspicion and be happy with it while it lasts.

POT3 was the dream SB. A 19 year old white girl, full time student, a job, transportation, and her own apartment. She is 5' and definitely 100 pounds max. 10/9/9. She is brand new on SA and when I asked if she had had a SD before, she said she was completely new to this and didn't know what to expect. I set the M&G for as soon as she was available. When we met she was cheery, articulate, and so impossibly young and sexy. When she walked up I sensed some disappointment / reservation as reality set in (me 52 and a few extra pounds). We had a great dinner and chatted about a lot of topics. I gently questioned her about things she likes and pointed out chances for us to do some of them (that she can't afford on her own) together. After I paid the check ad began to walk her to her car, I asked if she thought she might be interested in an arrangement. She said this was all new and she wasn't sure how she felt about it. I was understanding and suggested maybe we should just meet again for dinner soon to allow her to get more comfortable. She continued to obviously try to let me down easily, so I gave her a hug and asked her to think about it and keep in touch. I think that there is almost zero chance that I will see her again, but tomorrow I will text her with thanks for meeting and later in the week I will suggest another dinner. Even though I probably will have to chalk this one up as a loss, just the fact that I was in the game is exhilarating!

One more POT scheduled for Monday night. She is 32, another one brand new to the bowl, and says she doesn't really need the money, but is tired of dating guys that can't even pay there own way. She seems embarrassed by being on the site, so I will take it slow with her. I will report as things develop (or don't).

All in all, one quality baby in the fold out of three opportunities seems like a pretty good week.

What is the difference between 100 used condoms and 100 used tires. One is a Goodyear and one is a GreatYear! Revvo, I think that was a great week. Thanks for sharing.

BT

I read the forum and there are two sites being reference. I am ready to plunge into the SD / SB world. But I want to start with a site that has ample SB in the Michigan area. Especially, near the Ann Arbor. Is there one site better than the other for this location? I plan on doing a trial first. I plan on using pre-purchase credit card. Will that work? Just want to be low key as possible. Thanks.


Thanks.

J Draven

[QUOTE=John Draven; 1894255]I read the forum and there are two sites being reference. I am ready to plunge into the SD / SB world. But I want to start with a site that has ample SB in the Michigan area. Especially, near the Ann Arbor. Is there one site better than the other for this location? I plan on doing a trial first. I plan on using pre-purchase credit card. Will that work? Just want to be low key as possible. Thanks.

Thanks.

J Draven[/QUOTE]There are a number of sites. Sign up with free accounts and search your area before paying.

Seeking arrangement.

Sugardaddyforme.

Sugardaddie.

Arrangement Finders.

Ashley Madison

Whats your price

So the SO had already talked herself out of Breaking Bad, and I didn't argue. We stumbled upon How I Met Your Mother, which left me unimpressed after the 2nd episode. Maybe it gets better. But right now I'm really annoyed with the sideshow that is his roommate and roommate's fiancé, where she continually lures him into sex to the detriment of his law school duties. Oh, yeah, you mean there are women out there with actual sex drives? Maybe it only happens in sitcom-land.

Since the SO can't seem get in the mood unless she's already stress-free, the bedroom hasn't seen much action for awhile. There have been half-hearted promises, which never see follow-through, and it's easier just to let them slide. The last time I showed some initiative (following the wisdom of staying in routine) , it only reminded me of what a train wreck our sex life is. Everything has to be just so."Don't touch the boobs! No, that tickles! Etc etc" No wonder I've had such low self-esteem in the bedroom, nothing I do is ever good enough. That particular session never got any momentum due to a kid interruption, which was fine with me.

When on the rare occasion it actually clicks and goes well, it only serves to stoke my desire and set me up for the disappointment that is the male / female libido mismatch. I. E, two days later I'm ready to have fun again and the SO has had her monthly fill and isn't in the mood anymore. There have been many times where I've convinced myself that I'd be much happier if I could somehow make my libido disappear. How much simpler life would be to get out of that negative feedback loop.

So lately I've decided that the only way to win is to not play. On the all-too-frequent days that daily stress translates into bitchiness, sex is off the menu. One particularly unpleasant day she asked me if I was in the mood, and I answered "not really". She then asked if I'd be willing "in the near future" I gave a non-committal "perhaps".

I know that overtly sustaining that sort of hard-line stance is not where I want to go, for lots of reasons. But damn does it feel good. To finally be the one who can take-it-or-leave-it. No more dying of thirst at a faucet that only drips. No more being at the mercy of whims of someone else's non-libido. How much angst this has cost me over the years, and for once it's nice to at least feel in control of my own needs.

Well the day is finally here where I get to meet Lug nuts. 9/7/10 & a preseason rank of a 10 on her skills based on her texts. She said she will wear a dress for easy access when I scoop her up at the airpot so I am looking forward to meeting her. She has the prettiest eyes, a nice rack & lips that were made for sucking.

[QUOTE=Walruscl; 1894869]So the SO had already talked herself out of Breaking Bad, and I didn't argue. We stumbled upon How I Met Your Mother, which left me unimpressed after the 2nd episode. Maybe it gets better. But right now I'm really annoyed with the sideshow that is his roommate and roommate's fiancé, where she continually lures him into sex to the detriment of his law school duties. Oh, yeah, you mean there are women out there with actual sex drives? Maybe it only happens in sitcom-land.

Since the SO can't seem get in the mood unless she's already stress-free, the bedroom hasn't seen much action for awhile. There have been half-hearted promises, which never see follow-through, and it's easier just to let them slide. The last time I showed some initiative (following the wisdom of staying in routine) , it only reminded me of what a train wreck our sex life is. Everything has to be just so."Don't touch the boobs! No, that tickles! Etc etc" No wonder I've had such low self-esteem in the bedroom, nothing I do is ever good enough. That particular session never got any momentum due to a kid interruption, which was fine with me.

When on the rare occasion it actually clicks and goes well, it only serves to stoke my desire and set me up for the disappointment that is the male / female libido mismatch. I. E, two days later I'm ready to have fun again and the SO has had her monthly fill and isn't in the mood anymore. There have been many times where I've convinced myself that I'd be much happier if I could somehow make my libido disappear. How much simpler life would be to get out of that negative feedback loop.

So lately I've decided that the only way to win is to not play. On the all-too-frequent days that daily stress translates into bitchiness, sex is off the menu. One particularly unpleasant day she asked me if I was in the mood, and I answered "not really". She then asked if I'd be willing "in the near future" I gave a non-committal "perhaps".

I know that overtly sustaining that sort of hard-line stance is not where I want to go, for lots of reasons. But damn does it feel good. To finally be the one who can take-it-or-leave-it. No more dying of thirst at a faucet that only drips. No more being at the mercy of whims of someone else's non-libido. How much angst this has cost me over the years, and for once it's nice to at least feel in control of my own needs.[/QUOTE]Dude I have been there. One of the reasons that I am doing this hobby myself. But you got to hang in there. Please don't get into a battle over who can go without sex longer. She will win. So I would suggest giving it to her when there is slightest indication of her interest. And women can be real subtle about their interest. Then when you fuck her that is when you fuck her real good and hard. Remember women that suspect their husband is cheating on them will many times become more sexual with the husband as a way of trying to keep them. Besides if you all of a sudden are turning down sex is that out of character and suspicious?

Women want sex also. They just need certain things for this to happen. Most importantly tension. Not just sexual tension but positive tension in the relationship. And it is your job to give her the tension. And I am talking the good kind of tension. Like teasing, joking, being spontaneous, slap her on the ass when she does not expect it, and it is not an expectation of leading to sex. Kiss her when she walks by. Touch her more. Change your at home routine (notice I did not say change your routine when out of the house or when you come and go, but you can change that routine also if you are open and transparent about it). Exercise. Be fun and playful. Don't just watch TV, in fact go a few days without TV. And don't put up with her shit if she is just giving you shit. That does not mean getting into an argument with her. It means Telling her calmly and outright that you will not have to take this. And walk away, I have even just left the house for several hours. She will actually most likely want to be with you more when you do this.

Now the only problem with creating the good tension above is that it is a change in your routine. So this may arouse suspicion to your extra curricular activities. So you have to decide if you can do it or not. Good luck. Doing nothing and being angry is just putting you further and further into suffering.

Also a word about your lock-down situation and getting caught. One of the things I do is intentionally let my wife catch me when she suspected I may be up to something. For instance. I will clean everything off of my IPAD or Laptop, and then leave it intentionally open and leave the room for an extended period of time. This gives her an opportunity to snoop and find nothing. This is one of the best ways to her to calm down. Much better than your denial. Another way is when I am talking on the phone she will many times snoop and ask who I am talking with so I will intentionally set up a call with someone I know and when she walks up and asks me who I am on the phone with. I will just hand her the phone. She will then be stuck talking with my mother or one of my friends and will get the assurance she is really looking for.

Be careful out there.

Revvo

[QUOTE=LoriTruck;1894896]Well the day is finally here where I get to meet Lug nuts. 9/7/10 & a preseason rank of a 10 on her skills based on her texts. She said she will wear a dress for easy access when I scoop her up at the airpot so I am looking forward to meeting her. She has the prettiest eyes, a nice rack & lips that were made for sucking.[/QUOTE]Great pic. I'm looking forward to hearing what happens!

BT

[QUOTE=Revvo; 1894914]. One of the things I do is intentionally let my wife catch me when she suspected I may be up to something. For instance. I will clean everything off of my IPAD or Laptop, and then leave it intentionally open and leave the room for an extended period of time. This gives her an opportunity to snoop and find nothing. This is one of the best ways to her to calm down. Much better than your denial.

Revvo[/QUOTE]I've done this and she never looks. Lately I've been more free with her using my phone. Only because I have a burner.

BT

[QUOTE=Walruscl; 1894869]Since the SO can't seem get in the mood unless she's already stress-free, the bedroom hasn't seen much action for awhile. There have been half-hearted promises, which never see follow-through, and it's easier just to let them slide. The last time I showed some initiative (following the wisdom of staying in routine) , it only reminded me of what a train wreck our sex life is. Everything has to be just so."Don't touch the boobs! No, that tickles! Etc etc" No wonder I've had such low self-esteem in the bedroom, nothing I do is ever good enough. That particular session never got any momentum due to a kid interruption, which was fine with me.

I[/QUOTE]Sadly, marriages devolve into this dance too often. It makes one wonder if it is worth getting married at all. What are we thinking?

Women do what they have to do to secure their future including act like a sexual freak until they have what they want. The answer to a good relationship is communication and most of us guys are not good communicators the way our ladies need us to be. Foreplay in their world is not a hard dick as it is in ous. If my dick is up, I am ready to rock and roll with any available vagina. Women, on the other hand, have to feel needed, wanted, adored, and appreciated. And this starts with taking out the trash in the AM, sending her flowers during the day, calling her from work, etc. It's a lot of fucking work. It's OK for the first 2 years, but after 20 yrs it is difficult and not as thrilling. Hence Sugar Babies.

If you want your marriage to work, and actually prosper, you should get marriage and sex therapy. She needs to hear and understand where you are coming from. (Mars of course) And you need to understand her mind set. A good therapist will call you both out on your shortcomings and help you change things a bit. A good marriage without SBs is cheaper and can be good. If it is not good then move on.

I'm trying all of this and I am missing the Sugar Dance and am not yet in the OK stage. I'm not saying it will work, but it might.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;1894946]Women, on the other hand, have to feel needed, wanted, adored, and appreciated. And this starts with taking out the trash in the AM, sending her flowers during the day, calling her from work, etc. It's a lot of fucking work. It's OK for the first 2 years, but after 20 yrs it is difficult and not as thrilling. Hence Sugar Babies.[/QUOTE]Yeah, well that's the irony-short of my extracurriculars, I am as much of a "model husband" as anyone is likely to find. I've been complimented on that both from my SO and from friends and neighbors. I do more than my share of house chores. I cover a lot of the child care, and backfill the all-too-often times she can't hold her end of the bargain. Any time I find myself having to drop something off in her office I always bring flowers with me. Always. Birthdays and Christmases are almost always marked with romantic gifts.

One thing that is backsliding (and this started way before my SB) is the amount of emotional support I can sustain, but in many ways that's in resignation to the fact that I haven't been getting much of that back either.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;1894946]If you want your marriage to work, and actually prosper, you should get marriage and sex therapy. She needs to hear and understand where you are coming from. (Mars of course) And you need to understand her mind set. A good therapist will call you both out on your shortcomings and help you change things a bit. A good marriage without SBs is cheaper and can be good. If it is not good then move on.[/QUOTE]Like pretty much everyone else here, I don't want my family to fall apart. And despite my bitterness my SO is not my enemy. We are in choppy seas for lots of reasons, some situational, some of them self-inflicted or natural outgrowths of personal limitations.

Having seen some therapy situations I agree you need a good one. She's been through several and it hasn't helped much for her core issues. So I hear ya that it's probably the better path, but for better or worse I'm not sure how I get my mindset in the right place for that.

[QUOTE=Revvo;1894914]Please don't get into a battle over who can go without sex longer. She will win. So I would suggest giving it to her when there is slightest indication of her interest. And women can be real subtle about their interest. Then when you fuck her that is when you fuck her real good and hard. Remember women that suspect their husband is cheating on them will many times become more sexual with the husband as a way of trying to keep them. Besides if you all of a sudden are turning down sex is that out of character and suspicious?[/QUOTE]Ha, I have lost that battle countless times before. I've usually viewed it as an attempt to provide a wake-up call to demonstrate how one-sided things are. After awhile it just gets tiring being the horn-dog all the time. Admittedly it's mostly served to sexually frustrate me and only garner a passing observation from the SO that "it has been awhile hasn't it".

We have had heart-to-heart discussions in the past where I have literally told her that it seems like I'd be happier if I could just make my libido go away. Responses ranged from resentment (go figure) , to short-lived attempts at putting some effort into the bedroom. Which always dies on the vine after a few weeks at most.

Turning down sex is not unprecedented, this is hardly different than most bottom-of-the-downswing times. The only difference is that I can cope with it better, and the trick is not letting that show I suppose. Right now there is so much else going on in our family that I can easily attribute it to burn-out, which frankly a lot of it is. Clearly it's not a good idea to let it continue for too long, and I don't intend to do that.

[QUOTE=Revvo;1894914]Doing nothing and being angry is just putting you further and further into suffering.[/QUOTE]Agreed, although the goal of the SB was to be able to cope with the libido mismatch at home and avoid the anger and suffering. To a large extent that's working. An unanticipated side-effect was finding just how sexual some women really are. After years of living with the implicit worldview that it's my job to accommodate her tiny libido, I'm seeing that just maybe the problem isn't just my Y chromosome. But I'm pretty sure I can move to an "is what it is" mindset and not let that bother me.

This is the essence of the problem which is the outward display of an inward and infinitely more complicated problem. All couples go through ebbs and flows depending on what is going on in their lives, and I think most of us are understanding to a point. But chronic differences where a SO will not attempt to satisfy her man will ALWAYS result in a split. This works both ways but women usually have a different set of issues they are unhappy about. Men are frequently about sex.

I continue to see my ATF, who is a Sex Goddess. It is indeed wonderful to have a girl who thinks and talks about sex all the time. If I lived with her I would probably be the one who couldn't perform as regularly as she would like.

[QUOTE=FredMoore; 1895062]This is the essence of the problem which is the outward display of an inward and infinitely more complicated problem. All couples go through ebbs and flows depending on what is going on in their lives, and I think most of us are understanding to a point. But chronic differences where a SO will not attempt to satisfy her man will ALWAYS result in a split. This works both ways but women usually have a different set of issues they are unhappy about. Men are frequently about sex.

I continue to see my ATF, who is a Sex Goddess. It is indeed wonderful to have a girl who thinks and talks about sex all the time. If I lived with her I would probably be the one who couldn't perform as regularly as she would like.[/QUOTE]My wife was crazed for sex when we were dating and in the first years of our marriage. There were times when I couldn't keep up, and I was in my 20's! She would have been an ideal SB if there had been such a creature way back then. After our first child, things started to wane, and after our second, it was pretty much done, at least compared to before.

I stayed faithful until I found the bowl, with the exception of a few AMP visits now and again, (but only for a handy.)

But once I discovered the Bowl, and how much these young things enjoy sex, it struck me what a difference there was between time with my babies and time at home. Granted, times are different now, and female sexuality is not at all the same as 30 years ago, and as many have said issues with one's spouse are far more complicated than mere sex, but I do wonder if I would have strayed at all if things were on a more regular basis, intimacy-wise and sex-wise.

I guess I'll be finding out!

Scott