Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=D Nut;1814625]Just decide, to censor, or NOT to censor. Black or white. Because if you decide to censor "some", then you'll have you hands fun deciding where the line is. Shades of gray and there will be no concensus as to what is "too much". You made the call and the rest can either agree or suck it.[/QUOTE]About a month ago I posted my surprise at how some guys were having unprotected sex. I asked whether people were aware that certain things could lead to infection. For this I received an infraction notice. The response by Admin 2 was that I was not allowed to tell people to practice safe sex and this was why I received an infraction. I gave my own opinion. I did not tell anyone what to do. The reason for the post was to raise awareness for those who may not know the possible ramifications.

The biggest irony, of course, is that this site evolves around free speech and actions. It is the essence of what makes this community survive. Yet it seems no matter where you go Big Brother will always raise his head in one form or another.

Can opinions be expressed without concern of reprisal or not? Even on a site like USASG? It would seem they cannot.

[QUOTE=Gitanacv; 1814675]About a month ago I posted my surprise at how some guys were having unprotected sex. I asked whether people were aware that certain things could lead to infection. For this I received an infraction notice. The response by Admin 2 was that I was not allowed to tell people to practice safe sex and this was why I received an infraction. I gave my own opinion. I did not tell anyone what to do. The reason for the post was to raise awareness for those who may not know the possible ramifications.

Can opinions be expressed without concern of reprisal or not? Even on a site like USASG? It would seem they cannot.[/QUOTE][blue]Git there are some things that time has shown us just can't be brought up without setting up a firestorm that takes a long time to end and interfere with the what we do here. The two big ones are wrapped, or unwrapped and why won't providers see AA guys. You can certainly talk about having had wrapped sex with a provider but you can't tell another guy he should or shouldn't. Nothing you write on a sex forum with change their minds, and if you say they should they will respond and blah blah blah. If a guy talks about how GREAT uncovered sex is, we have an unsafe sex bragging infraction that I throw. [/blue]

[QUOTE=Vilnius;1814666]In that particular case, I would say its better not to. Yeah its a fine line between "censorship" and "Jesus Harold Christ, who wouldn't find that offensive", but there should probably be a line somewhere, unless there's a way to mask the photos so that you have to click on them to show them (actually, I imagine that there is a way to do that on vBulletin, but its probably more work than you'd like).[/QUOTE][QUOTE=D Nut;1814625]Just decide, to censor, or NOT to censor. Black or white. Because if you decide to censor "some", then you'll have you hands fun deciding where the line is. Shades of gray and there will be no concensus as to what is "too much". You made the call and the rest can either agree or suck it.[/QUOTE][blue]I felt stupid after I did it that's why I asked you guys. I think in the future I wouldn't unless it violated some specific rule. I saw the photo, and clicked the trash link without really thinking about until it was too late. I talked to the guy that posted it and he let me off the hook. [/blue]

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels; 1814532]A2, I think it would be a great idea for you to have Silky for 'dinner' and Sasha for 'dessert'. I will even volunteer my services as 'hostess' for this Black-Tie Affair.

Kisses,

Molly[/QUOTE]Man I would love to but the three of you at once would like to kill my old ass.

Hey Admin2. I been there. Done that. With sausage! Right Silk baby!

[QUOTE=SashaBlack; 1814306]A2,

I went to Silks yesterday and, yes she can cook. Pasta and sauce, I wanted seconds, but work called.

Thanks sweetie, we'll have to do it again, soon.

Sasha.

PS. If you come to town A2, we'll have Silk cook for the three of us and then we can bring it in the bedroom to enjoy off each other.) [/QUOTE]

Crissy,

You're a good person.

[QUOTE=CurvyCrissy; 1814290]I know my guys have told me to button up on this issue just in case she goes wrong, it just pulls on my heart strings like you can't imagine. Unless you've been there, unless you have made that mistake of "extending you're hand to the wrong person", or unless you suggested a person and they did something dirty to a client and loyal friend, you'd never know that feeling.

It makes it seem like we are either in on it or we even set the whole scam up, you sit back and get this heavy feeling inside, you want to do anything possible to prove you had know idea and are just as much scammed as the client, when their are reviews on top of that whom mentioned it, reminding you guys there are some clients who read these reviews and believe them whole hearted like they are the bible, so being labeled as "with her, in on it, knew about it, set it up, brought her in, suggested her to a client,"

Those little things can slam you're business and even make you're regulars take a step back and here they have known you for years, the thought of being robbed or scammed is an already huge issue with every visit because people fall on hard times will act in ways they usually wouldn't.

Because of a person going over the edge and panicking when broke, then doing something you and I would find a ridiculous as a way to get things right again, for that reason alone I now REFUSE to "VOUCH" for anyone in the business.

That's why when I did mention knowing this girl "Karma", I only said I'd be very surprised if it came to be as her involved in this crap.

It's TOTALLY OUT OF CHARACTER for her to act like that! I won't say she'd never do anything like that " because people change" but I will say I'd be more comfortable with suggesting her than OTHERS I know personally.

Clients who know me know I am totally against this scamming robbing stuff, I will tell a client flat out if I find out someone is a risky visit or dangerous person to schedule with, whether they like it OR NOT.

Karma is super sweet, really open minded and fun, down to earth, easy to talk to and get along with and non-judgmental.

Things hard to find in most people these days, also she is about ready to pull out.

She has voiced some feelings about the industry about not knowing how cut throat it is, how some clients have no manners and send pictures without even saying hello first, ask pretty scary questions, even texts that she gets where she won't respond or answer because it's a stranger and anyone with common sense won't tell a stranger flat out if you'd do something that could get you're freedom taken, when she don't answer she is being called nasty names or threats made of sexual attacks.

Now all providers have had these texts, we all had these calls, you'd be very surprised what a NOOBY among girls will have to make it past, they eventually grow tired of you ignoring them and move on to a provider they can get a rise out of and it slows than stops, I told her that she has to get a THICK SKIN real fast, to never do nothing she is uncomfortable with, never see anyone you have a bad feeling about and I said most important is YOU'RE FEELINGS and COMFORT are just as IMPORTANT as you're client's are because YOU ARE HUMAN with feelings too!

I wished her the best of luck, told her she will eventually meet some very great people, networking is my favorite part of this industry and there are clients I have now that I know for a fact I will talk to and spend time with years and years from now, clients I wouldn't give up for no one in the world, NO ONE!

The Karma I know is a good girl on the edge and hanging on by a thread because of this issue as well as the clients that come out the dark at 4 am And wake you up with a text or creepy voicemail that have U-turning on every light in the house, but if you hang in there and build a reputation of being a genuine person in this for the right reasons, you will be able to surround yourself with good quality clients you can depend on because you have proven to them they can depend on YOU, no one is perfect and we all have our days, but good clients and good providers I believe will always shine through.

I just wanted to say that last thing and I am now leaving this issue alone, I know you're reading this Karma,"she reads everyday guys," you keep doing what you are comfortable doing, do it for YOU and NO ONE ELSE, you know what I mean by that!

You are the one who is doing it and people will come and go in life, we are the ones who have to hold the memories of our actions and you do what you're comfortable doing, don't beat you're self up about the stuff said just loosen up and enjoy the life babe.

There is sooo much out here and the right clients for you will make their way to you, stick around girl, life gets so fun, I promise![/QUOTE]

So how does one ESCORT get a cease and desist order against another escort to stop posting crap about her on a forum. What are the damages? Does Sinful's lawyer tell the judge "Hey. Her comments are hurting my clients escorting business?

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels; 1814057]She has now resorted to calling / texting my BFF, asking for my full first and last name. She says she will be having 'her attorney' send me a cease and desist letter. If only she had an ounce of legal knowledge. LMFAO!

So, I am posting what an anonymous hobbyist sent to me, once again reinforcing my rather winded character description of her crazy, unprofessional behavior. I'm thinking it's just about time to demote her to a 'street-scort' or even 'street-walker', since she seems to care not one bit about other hobbyists, or anyone's safety, for that matter.

[b]I saw SD early on. Before the warnings went up. NOT a good experience.

She was talking about doing porno films and I just mentioned that they tend to do them BBFS. She smiled and said "sooo what's your point."

She bitched about and used the real first names of more than one PROVIDER and CLIENT

She claims that she keeps a detailed log of all her appointments. I "burned" my burn-phone and got another one.

We got into some arguments and she "threatened" to never speak to me again. Then dammit. She started to PM me looking for a date when she was in town burning up my inbox.

While she was advertising at $300 on the forums, she was PMing me and begging for a $100 date. She could not understand why I turned her down. Hell even for $50 I would tell her no. [/b]

Hope you are enjoying this 'tale of enlightenment' in our octagon. Every thing I have said is true, and sinful nightmare knows she cannot deny any of it. Which is why she hasn't posted LMFAO.[/QUOTE]

We all know, us lady providers, that certain providers talk crap about us during their appointments with the gentlemen. It has been going on for a while. In the beginning, I was upset and wanted to lash out at her on the forums. I didn't. I wanted to more so when she personally called me complaining and making stupid childish statements. Then, when she went on another forum and stated that I threatened to " beat her up " because I was sooo jealous, well. I then did make one post.

I've had, recently, another provider out me on facebook. Not only did she do that, but she had nerve to tell my daughter that I am a prostitute. She also sent fabricated stories to hobbyists regarding me and asked them why they were seeing me and not her. Let's not forget the calls to children services, of which I fully believe that this provider placed. She yet again made more threats of making calls. Yes, this provider is related to me. Family is the worst of them all. Who needs enemies when you have family like that, right? All of that because she is jealous and because I caught her red handed stealing stuff. Well, I had allowed her to stay at my place for almost a month because I felt sorry for her and because she is family and the whole time she was stealing things out of my home and taking them to hers. Clothes, shoes, one of my Coach purses and a pair of very expensive Coach sunglasses. Heck, she even stole some my daughter's clothes, shoes and even her underwear! All out of jealousy and being bitter.

I've learned that one cannot help another anymore. It just doesn't pay off in the end. You end up getting screwed over. Gone are the days where people actually know and understand what respect is and they can give a sincere thank you for helping them. Everyone is out to get everyone else. They are out to hurt others because they are miserable and bringing children into the mix is just one of the worst things that they do. I just don't understand some people. I guess I never will.

I just don't understand why people have to be so hateful and so negative. They can be pretty on the exterior, but it is what on the interior that counts.

Why all of the back and forth bickering?

Honestly, I rarely even log into USA anymore because it is mostly just people arguing with one another and being spiteful.

It's so silly.

I guess what I really want to say here is this:

Be careful with some of these chicks because some of them definitely have their wires crossed and they need severe mental help. They are unstable and when one is dealing with someone unstable, who knows what they will do or try to do.

It is best to just ignore their attempts of sabotaging your business. I know that can be hard to do, but try.

The only thing that they are accomplishing is showing their clients their REAL level of class. Anyone can be anyone or anything they want to be on the net. They can say they are great people and awesome until they are blue in the face, it is their actions that show just how they really are. Sitting and talking bs about us just shows she is catty, jealous and bitter. That's it.

As hard as it may be, and trust me it is, ignore her / them. Do not give them the satisfaction of lashing back or getting into a net cat fight on the forums. Just let it go. I have started doing so. In fact, I just giggle when I hear what someone is saying about me. I know I have class, I know that I respect others, I know that I am definitely not jealous. It actually feels good to know that I have started to mature, LOL. Everyone who knows me, knows that I am someone who has no problem saying what I want, when I want and back in the day (before I turned 31, LOL) I would've ripped her apart on here, but really. What does that accomplish? It just makes me look as childish and immature as it makes her come across as being.

Sabotage, jealousy, client hoarding, etc etc comes with the job. It happens.

Just know that you are doing something right for these girls to be so threatened by you that they have to start spreading rumors.

Just keep being you and smile. Stay pretty, stay sexy and smile.

It gets better and eventually she / they will grow bored and move on to talking about someone else.

Sorry about the lengthy report! LOL. I can never just type one sentence.

Let's all enjoy what's left of this beautiful weekend. .

Kisses and Hugs,

Dawn.

You are a true lady, both inside and out. I admire your professionalism, and I truly value our friendship. It's amazing what jealousy can cause another person to do.

No one's children should be dragged into our business, regardless of the differences between the adults. I can't even begin to fathom how much that situation has hurt you personally, and I would never wish that to happen to my worst enemy.

I sincerely wish these 'Jerry Springer' episodes will stop, and that we can all go back to the good old drama-free days. I did send out a 'warning' to Nashville, and that should be my last post on my 'Jerry Springer' drama, that is, if I have managed to teach a certain 'forum advertiser' a lesson in proper provider etiquette.

Kisses,

Molly.

PS: We all missed being blessed with your lovely presence at July's Provider Picnic / Spinner's Club meeting. Hopefully you can join us at the next one, in August.

SHE said that YOU were going to beat HER up? I know you have a reputation for being feisty, but she is 3 times your weight. That would not be a fair fight, not even in the OCTAGON. No one would believe her.

[QUOTE=Delicious Dawn; 1815661]We all know, us lady providers, that certain providers talk crap about us during their appointments with the gentlemen. It has been going on for a while. In the beginning, I was upset and wanted to lash out at her on the forums. I didn't. I wanted to more so when she personally called me complaining and making stupid childish statements. Then, when she went on another forum and stated that I threatened to " beat her up " because I was sooo jealous, well. I then did make one post.

I've had, recently, another provider out me on facebook. Not only did she do that, but she had nerve to tell my daughter that I am a prostitute. She also sent fabricated stories to hobbyists regarding me and asked them why they were seeing me and not her. Let's not forget the calls to children services, of which I fully believe that this provider placed. She yet again made more threats of making calls. Yes, this provider is related to me. Family is the worst of them all. Who needs enemies when you have family like that, right? All of that because she is jealous and because I caught her red handed stealing stuff. Well, I had allowed her to stay at my place for almost a month because I felt sorry for her and because she is family and the whole time she was stealing things out of my home and taking them to hers. Clothes, shoes, one of my Coach purses and a pair of very expensive Coach sunglasses. Heck, she even stole some my daughter's clothes, shoes and even her underwear! All out of jealousy and being bitter.

I've learned that one cannot help another anymore. It just doesn't pay off in the end. You end up getting screwed over. Gone are the days where people actually know and understand what respect is and they can give a sincere thank you for helping them. Everyone is out to get everyone else. They are out to hurt others because they are miserable and bringing children into the mix is just one of the worst things that they do. I just don't understand some people. I guess I never will.

I just don't understand why people have to be so hateful and so negative. They can be pretty on the exterior, but it is what on the interior that counts.

Why all of the back and forth bickering?

Honestly, I rarely even log into USA anymore because it is mostly just people arguing with one another and being spiteful.

It's so silly.

I guess what I really want to say here is this:

Be careful with some of these chicks because some of them definitely have their wires crossed and they need severe mental help. They are unstable and when one is dealing with someone unstable, who knows what they will do or try to do.

It is best to just ignore their attempts of sabotaging your business. I know that can be hard to do, but try.

The only thing that they are accomplishing is showing their clients their REAL level of class. Anyone can be anyone or anything they want to be on the net. They can say they are great people and awesome until they are blue in the face, it is their actions that show just how they really are. Sitting and talking bs about us just shows she is catty, jealous and bitter. That's it.

As hard as it may be, and trust me it is, ignore her / them. Do not give them the satisfaction of lashing back or getting into a net cat fight on the forums. Just let it go. I have started doing so. In fact, I just giggle when I hear what someone is saying about me. I know I have class, I know that I respect others, I know that I am definitely not jealous. It actually feels good to know that I have started to mature, LOL. Everyone who knows me, knows that I am someone who has no problem saying what I want, when I want and back in the day (before I turned 31, LOL) I would've ripped her apart on here, but really. What does that accomplish? It just makes me look as childish and immature as it makes her come across as being.

Sabotage, jealousy, client hoarding, etc etc comes with the job. It happens.

Just know that you are doing something right for these girls to be so threatened by you that they have to start spreading rumors.

Just keep being you and smile. Stay pretty, stay sexy and smile.

It gets better and eventually she / they will grow bored and move on to talking about someone else.

Sorry about the lengthy report! LOL. I can never just type one sentence.

Let's all enjoy what's left of this beautiful weekend. .

Kisses and Hugs,

Dawn.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nday Guy; 1814707]Crissy,

You're a good person.[/QUOTE]Now that I'm on the shit list looks like you get front door service buddy!

Brown noses are the new black!

[QUOTE=Strolnarnd; 1817470]Now that I'm on the shit list looks like you get front door service buddy!

Brown noses are the new black![/QUOTE]YOU'RE WRONG. I've not been back to see her since the last fiasco.

She's a inherently a good person. Just a someone who does not have any customer service skills. (and I am [B]NOT [/B]talking about sexual services).

CurvyCrissy gets too involved in other peoples dealings and it screws up her own business.

I have changed my phone number multiple times, asked providers not to contact me, and they still do. I've seriously been through 3 phone numbers and they keep calling me. It's not just 1 provider but a couple providers. Ladies, some of you, not all, need to let the guy call you. Some of us are married, have kids, or nieces and nephews that play games on our phones. It's unprofessional to contact someone when they have not contacted you first. For this reason, and this reason alone, I will no longer see any providers. I'm out!

So I was set to have a date tonight and had contacted this gentlemen all throughout the day well long story short he gets there and says hey I forgot the money in my wallet let me go get it needless to say he took off. I soon after called him and asked him why he left he proceeded to call me a lying ***** and that my pictures were not the ones on my ad.

Here's my point this is why it is a problem to have some female using my name I know I don't own it but a lot of people relate silk with the face you see on everyone of my ads. I'm also hearing sassy is telling people that were good friends and that I offered her to work with me. I can tell you both of these are false statements I've never met her and she would be lucky to work with someone as nice and classy as myself. It just upsets me I have work to hard to gain such a good reputation for a newbie to ruin it and spread lies. I'm just tired of losing business because someone thought using my name tagline would benefit them.

[QUOTE=SilkyWetness; 1818279]So I was set to have a date tonight and had contacted this gentlemen all throughout the day well long story short he gets there and says hey I forgot the money in my wallet let me go get it needless to say he took off. I soon after called him and asked him why he left he proceeded to call me a lying * and that my pictures were not the ones on my ad.

Here's my point this is why it is a problem to have some female using my name I know I don't own it but a lot of people relate silk with the face you see on everyone of my ads. I'm also hearing sassy is telling people that were good friends and that I offered her to work with me. I can tell you both of these are false statements I've never met her and she would be lucky to work with someone as nice and classy as myself. It just upsets me I have work to hard to gain such a good reputation for a newbie to ruin it and spread lies. I'm just tired of losing business because someone thought using my name tagline would benefit them.[/QUOTE]I'm kind of amazed that since SilkyWetness advertises here like at least once a day that someone would go to see her expecting the other Silk, who is mostly a BP provider and seems to advertise once a week or so. But, you get too many entries in the burner phone and it can be hard to sort out I suppose.

Otherwise, just kind of amused by all the provider-on-provider verbal violence. It doesn't make any of you look good, no matter who's right. I haven't seen any of these providers, because I don't do the reference thing. This is largely to protect my privacy, and to avoid the hassle of it all. Given all the info that seems to get exchanged in these tussles between reference-seeking providers, my conviction is stronger than ever. There is no reason to get caught in the crossfire between these women, as there are plenty of providers out there just as good with far less drama.

Haven't been here much lately. What I've seen doesn't make me want to come back soon.

[QUOTE=SilkyWetness; 1818279]So I was set to have a date tonight and had contacted this gentlemen all throughout the day well long story short he gets there and says hey I forgot the money in my wallet let me go get it needless to say he took off. I soon after called him and asked him why he left he proceeded to call me a lying * and that my pictures were not the ones on my ad.

Here's my point this is why it is a problem to have some female using my name I know I don't own it but a lot of people relate silk with the face you see on everyone of my ads. I'm also hearing sassy is telling people that were good friends and that I offered her to work with me. I can tell you both of these are false statements I've never met her and she would be lucky to work with someone as nice and classy as myself. It just upsets me I have work to hard to gain such a good reputation for a newbie to ruin it and spread lies. I'm just tired of losing business because someone thought using my name tagline would benefit them.[/QUOTE]So let me get this straight, he showed up and saw gorgeous you, thinking he was seeing the cheap knockoff that comes on here from time to time and uses your brand name, and he is flustered and says he forgot his money as a lame excuse for cold feet? I mean, maybe I am stupid, but looking at both sets of current pictures, he should have been overjoyed and booked for more time. That "OTHER SILK" doesn't hold a candle to you. Maybe you were just so pretty you intimidated him.

[QUOTE=SilkyWetness;1818279]So I was set to have a date tonight and had contacted this gentlemen all throughout the day well long story short he gets there and says hey I forgot the money in my wallet let me go get it needless to say he took off. I soon after called him and asked him why he left he proceeded to call me a lying ***** and that my pictures were not the ones on my ad.[/QUOTE]His loss Hun.

[QUOTE=SilkyWetness; 1818279]So I was set to have a date tonight and had contacted this gentlemen all throughout the day well long story short he gets there and says hey I forgot the money in my wallet let me go get it needless to say he took off. I soon after called him and asked him why he left he proceeded to call me a lying * and that my pictures were not the ones on my ad.

Here's my point this is why it is a problem to have some female using my name I know I don't own it but a lot of people relate silk with the face you see on everyone of my ads. I'm also hearing sassy is telling people that were good friends and that I offered her to work with me. I can tell you both of these are false statements I've never met her and she would be lucky to work with someone as nice and classy as myself. It just upsets me I have work to hard to gain such a good reputation for a newbie to ruin it and spread lies. I'm just tired of losing business because someone thought using my name tagline would benefit them.[/QUOTE]Like someone said, their loss! You are much prettier than than the other "silk". I own businesses and there's always going to be someone trying to take advantage of you, period. Don't worry about it, you have plenty of people who rave about you. I can't wait to see you!

I promise I won't run out, in fact you'll probably have to kick me out. :)

Stay positive!

[QUOTE=SilkyWetness; 1818279]So I was set to have a date tonight and had contacted this gentlemen all throughout the day well long story short he gets there and says hey I forgot the money in my wallet let me go get it needless to say he took off. I soon after called him and asked him why he left he proceeded to call me a lying * and that my pictures were not the ones on my ad.

Here's my point this is why it is a problem to have some female using my name I know I don't own it but a lot of people relate silk with the face you see on everyone of my ads. I'm also hearing sassy is telling people that were good friends and that I offered her to work with me. I can tell you both of these are false statements I've never met her and she would be lucky to work with someone as nice and classy as myself. It just upsets me I have work to hard to gain such a good reputation for a newbie to ruin it and spread lies. I'm just tired of losing business because someone thought using my name tagline would benefit them.[/QUOTE]The guy who stood you up is a moron! There are 2 girls using Silk in there name but that is where the similarities end! One is KY. And One is in Northern Cincinnati! One is a BBW and one is well built maybe a little above what I call a spinner! Even there hair color is different. Maybe the girl should have used a different name but the guy is a dumb ass for not knowing the difference and walking away from a great looking and talented woman! Just my 2 cents!

I will be contacting you soon for an appointment

Yes and now he has posted a false review in escort reviews ya it upset me but I know who I am and what I do his loss because I know how to give a good time and thank all you guys for the nice comments just tired of idiots like this.

While I was working I saw this post.

[quote]So I met up with Ana couple days ago. She is a cute 19 year old brunette with a good body. Works in retail at a clothing shop and is going through hardships recently and she is trying to buy couple stuff. Anyway, I guess you can call this a so so experience for me personally, not to bad but not to great. Acts like a typical teenager who is pretty nieve, was cool but was pretty nervous as this was her first time meeting someone from CL.

I calmed her down and she gave good head and was pretty tight banged several positions. Couple things she didn't want to do but no big deal. Well here is the bad part. While I Was banging away her snatch was bleeding or started to bleed at this point. It wasnt to bad for me because I got it just on my condom (but of course I still washed my self like hell, she's a non pro newbie with little experience so I wasnt to worried) but she was kinda freaking out and kept on apologizing to me and felt very awkward where she said couldn't continue with it because she felt to awkward about it and got dressed and apologized and said to hit her up again to meet. I Asked her to finish me off at least with her mouth she again said no next time, oh well can't force her and she left me hanging ready to nut.

So there you have it! No offense but save your pms and time because no I won't share her contact info because as I said before I only share and trade equal value! Meaning CL non pro only. No street walker or back pagers for me not into that and that's all I have been offered for trade here. Some have attempted to trade CL chicks but I unfortunetly I have already banged them and know them. Example the blonde chick with glasses near the theater on green in prov I was offered but turns out I banged this girl already, so I'm open but tell me something I don't know because I bang these types of non pro girls on CL all the time (the struggling college student or nurse etc) and its hobby and part time addiction.[/QUOTE]No I won't say where it's from but here is my question, at the end he gets all pompous about the "quality" of girls he expects to trade this girls number for. Is he really saying he'll only trade for a number of another chick that gets her period mid session then won't at least give him a BJ and left him hanging? I'm thinking he gets no takers.

Thoughts?

[QUOTE=Admin2; 1819428]While I was working I saw this post.

No I won't say where it's from but here is my question, at the end he gets all pompous about the "quality" of girls he expects to trade this girls number for. Is he really saying he'll only trade for a number of another chick that gets her period mid session then won't at least give him a BJ and left him hanging? I'm thinking he gets no takers.

Thoughts?[/QUOTE]If only they made this board a reality show on HBO.

BTW. I am taking odds on "no takers"

I thought it might be fun to ask the board to consider a couple of hypothetical questions:

[blue]Mattie I had to take this question down, it could have been construed as a question about trafficking. I and everybody else knows that wasn't your intent but you worded it badly Hoss.

A2[/blue]

2. Imagine you lived in a society in which it was completely acceptable to pay money for a sexual partner for a single evening, and that it did not violate your moral, religious, or cultural rules. What is the maximum you would pay for a one-night stand (again being realistic about what you could actually afford).

While I understand that some of you may not agree with my unfavorable review of SilkyWetness. You've made yourself heard on here, but there are others that do agree. They have let me know they agree privately.

I posted this for all to see because it's important that all experiences be shared. Whether good or bad.

The more information posted on here the better a choice can be made. I work VERY hard, as I sure the rest of you do for your $$. In my book I would advise anyone to pass on her. Others do not feel the same.

Welcome to America!

Now for those of you that really like quality just go see [B]BLAKE[/B] she's more than worth it!

Ok cincyguy I have tried to be nice and have also admitted sometimes I mess up but you continuously try to slam me. We all know you felt you were being mislead I am the girl in my pictures and besides you didn't even do an apt to merit a bad review. So please just let it go I haven't bashed you or anything all your doing is making your self look bad so from here on out forget you met me and move onto harassing someone else I haven't done anything to you.

[QUOTE=CincyGuy1793;1820707]While I understand that some of you may not agree with my unfavorable review of SilkyWetness. You've made yourself heard on here, but there are others that do agree. They have let me know they agree privately.[/QUOTE]Then let those individuals write their reviews publicly so we have a full picture. Speculating that there are a bunch of people that agree with you tells us nothing. Anybody can suggest they have support for their opinion by having a PM box full.

So far you have had one lone supporter publicly, and they are often suspect anyway in there opinion. Coming on here and flaming a gal that has hundreds of great reviews and your one conflicted report that comes across more as you having cold feet and then beating a war drum and claiming "others agree" does nothing.

Regardless of whether we are talking Silky or another provider, the reason many of us pour over the data here for exactly that reason.

It is okay for you to have a differing opinion, just be clear on the context. That way, if there is another gent out there that has the same desires and personality, they can make a wise decision with regards to YMMV as to whether they would have similar reaction to you and therefore should give proper weight to your review.

Maybe it would help if you would clarify exactly what you were expecting from Silky, and why she let you down. Otherwise all we can do is think upon our own interaction and experience and wonder if you are off your rocker.

I get that we all like different things. It is no secret that I am a GFE / DATY guy that wants all the frills. Silky has always provided that for me in our sessions. Always very pretty and fresh, and her enthusiasm and passion seemed genuine, so I felt like she is a keeper and will stand by that evaluation.

For all I know she was bored stiff with me and couldn't wait for the session to be over, but she MADE me feel very appreciated every time I have seen her and even if that is just an illusion, that is all I want. If she actually earned an Oscar in making me feel affection and passion, so be it, all I care about is how the session made me feel.

Are we looking for different things?

Did you expect her to be a porn star and jump your bones when you walked through the door? If so, I can tell you then you did not do your due diligence in research because many of her reviews essentially speak of the same skill set: she is like your girlfriend, only she doesn't say no.

For goodness sake, this woman will even cook a delicious dinner for you and fuck your brains out, what more could you possibly be looking for?

You could always use email, or they have text apps that don't show a phone number. That way the girls wouldn't get any kind of number from you and you can contact them at your convenience. Don't know if you even check on here anymore since you retired, but I thought this might help you.

[QUOTE=Member #4293;1817978]I have changed my phone number multiple times, asked providers not to contact me, and they still do. I've seriously been through 3 phone numbers and they keep calling me. It's not just 1 provider but a couple providers. Ladies, some of you, not all, need to let the guy call you. Some of us are married, have kids, or nieces and nephews that play games on our phones. It's unprofessional to contact someone when they have not contacted you first. For this reason, and this reason alone, I will no longer see any providers. I'm out![/QUOTE]

If some of you had just let the negative review sit for what it is. One single, negative review, he wouldn't have followed up. But some of you just had to take it personal and attack him. He's correct. He's allowed to express his negative opinion just as much as you are allowed to say something positive. We, as readers, can simply decide for ourselves. But for some reason, someone rambles on for 10 paragraphs instead of letting it go.

There's no need to defend her. Again, there are 20 positive reviews to the 1 negative. No idea why some of you feel the need to bring more attention to it.

I use the Pinger app for text and some voice contacts. I turn off the notifications and only login with my password in private. A provider can call or text all day long and nothing shows unless I login. Pinger works on both my iPad and iPhone. If things get complicated just delete the app and in 30 days the account cancels. One tip though be sure to erase conversations on all your devices that have Pinger installed.

Like I said in my prior post under 'Escort reviews, ' I hope that EE will consider booking with me in the future as there is no question he represents some of the most desirable providers in the region. Unfortunately, Melea is no longer one of these "most desired" (or at least, based on posted experiences including my own, she should not be). However, after this post it won't surprise me if EE decides never to communicate with me again. That's my risk. But someone has to start this thread.

There is obvious consistency about Melea that is inconsistent with the way she is promoted by EE. Melea has not amped up her game.

First, and again, I wish to be sure everyone understands (and I believe most will agree) EE does a great job coordinating meetings. And I'm confident the feeling is mutual among his providers in terms of the job he does for them as well.

To some extent, it is the job of "coordinators" such as EE and Buddah to do the marketing for their clients (in this case, the providers they represent on this and other boards). That is why you'll see so many positive adjectives describing the wonderful talents and personalities of their mutual harems.

Simply from observation, Buddah clearly knows when to throw in the towel when it comes to a provider he represents who is not performing to his high standards. We have all watched numerous providers introduced by Buddah and for whatever reason they go solo or they simply disappear from all boards. My guess is that for every two providers who leave Buddah's nest, at least one of them didn't necessarily leave on her own (I believe he's booted many off his roster over the years for lack of performance or otherwise).

EE however, needs to wake up regarding Melea. The volume of posts consistently referring to her as a "dead fish" should leave us petitioning EE to be more honest. So, here it is.

EE: please be more honest? Either stop glossing over Melea's piss poor performance personality with your accolades about how wonderful she is in your posts about her or you may lose credibility among us mongers.

Anyone else have anything else to say about this? Should coordinators such as EE be more honest and responsive to our posts (especially when so many tell the same story)?

Mongernator

[QUOTE=Mongernator; 1822261]Like I said in my prior post under 'Escort reviews, ' I hope that EE will consider booking with me in the future as there is no question he represents some of the most desirable providers in the region. Unfortunately, Melea is no longer one of these "most desired" (or at least, based on posted experiences including my own, she should not be). However, after this post it won't surprise me if EE decides never to communicate with me again. That's my risk. But someone has to start this thread.

There is obvious consistency about Melea that is inconsistent with the way she is promoted by EE. Melea has not amped up her game.

First, and again, I wish to be sure everyone understands (and I believe most will agree) EE does a great job coordinating meetings. And I'm confident the feeling is mutual among his providers in terms of the job he does for them as well.

To some extent, it is the job of "coordinators" such as EE and Buddah to do the marketing for their clients (in this case, the providers they represent on this and other boards). That is why you'll see so many positive adjectives describing the wonderful talents and personalities of their mutual harems.

Simply from observation, Buddah clearly knows when to throw in the towel when it comes to a provider he represents who is not performing to his high standards. We have all watched numerous providers introduced by Buddah and for whatever reason they go solo or they simply disappear from all boards. My guess is that for every two providers who leave Buddah's nest, at least one of them didn't necessarily leave on her own (I believe he's booted many off his roster over the years for lack of performance or otherwise).

EE however, needs to wake up regarding Melea. The volume of posts consistently referring to her as a "dead fish" should leave us petitioning EE to be more honest. So, here it is.

EE: please be more honest? Either stop glossing over Melea's piss poor performance personality with your accolades about how wonderful she is in your posts about her or you may lose credibility among us mongers.

Anyone else have anything else to say about this? Should coordinators such as EE be more honest and responsive to our posts (especially when so many tell the same story)?

Mongernator[/QUOTE]I do agree with you. He has other good providers. He should just post,"melea, she is a very nice looking girl with a habit and a bad attitude. If one of my other girls are busy and you just HAVE to get your rocks off, please book with her!" LOL I think he knows damn well that she's a waste. He's known her for a while and I think he's just trying to help her. One day he will come to the confusion that this girl just won't help herself.

[QUOTE=Mongernator; 1822261]Like I said in my prior post under 'Escort reviews, ' I hope that EE will consider booking with me in the future as there is no question he represents some of the most desirable providers in the region. Unfortunately, Melea is no longer one of these "most desired" (or at least, based on posted experiences including my own, she should not be). However, after this post it won't surprise me if EE decides never to communicate with me again. That's my risk. But someone has to start this thread.

There is obvious consistency about Melea that is inconsistent with the way she is promoted by EE. Melea has not amped up her game.

First, and again, I wish to be sure everyone understands (and I believe most will agree) EE does a great job coordinating meetings. And I'm confident the feeling is mutual among his providers in terms of the job he does for them as well.

To some extent, it is the job of "coordinators" such as EE and Buddah to do the marketing for their clients (in this case, the providers they represent on this and other boards). That is why you'll see so many positive adjectives describing the wonderful talents and personalities of their mutual harems.

Simply from observation, Buddah clearly knows when to throw in the towel when it comes to a provider he represents who is not performing to his high standards. We have all watched numerous providers introduced by Buddah and for whatever reason they go solo or they simply disappear from all boards. My guess is that for every two providers who leave Buddah's nest, at least one of them didn't necessarily leave on her own (I believe he's booted many off his roster over the years for lack of performance or otherwise).

EE however, needs to wake up regarding Melea. The volume of posts consistently referring to her as a "dead fish" should leave us petitioning EE to be more honest. So, here it is.

EE: please be more honest? Either stop glossing over Melea's piss poor performance personality with your accolades about how wonderful she is in your posts about her or you may lose credibility among us mongers.

Anyone else have anything else to say about this? Should coordinators such as EE be more honest and responsive to our posts (especially when so many tell the same story)?

Mongernator[/QUOTE]Hate to say it, but maybe the current "Amped up her game" is better than it used to be.

In all seriousness, a lot about the hobby is YMMV and while some of the girls can get past the fact that they are doing a guy older than their father, or weighing 400 lbs, etc others can't. (KY Fantasy once had a girl that got off on the idea that wanted her p@ssy So bad that they were willing to pay for it.)

It seriously comes down to whether or not you click and maybe even something as simple as brushing your teeth (or asking if you can take a quick shower since it's a late day appt and you last saw a shower 12 hours ago).

So rather than get on a soapbox every time you see the ad because you had an appointment that you weren't happy with might I suggest moving on and finding a lady (s) that you enjoy spending time with?

"What difference does it make? I make you feel good, you make me feel good. What the hell more could you ask from a guy?"

-Jack Cates

[QUOTE=Mongernator; 1822261]Like I said in my prior post under 'Escort reviews, ' I hope that EE will consider booking with me in the future as there is no question he represents some of the most desirable providers in the region. Unfortunately, Melea is no longer one of these "most desired" (or at least, based on posted experiences including my own, she should not be). However, after this post it won't surprise me if EE decides never to communicate with me again. That's my risk. But someone has to start this thread.

There is obvious consistency about Melea that is inconsistent with the way she is promoted by EE. Melea has not amped up her game.

First, and again, I wish to be sure everyone understands (and I believe most will agree) EE does a great job coordinating meetings. And I'm confident the feeling is mutual among his providers in terms of the job he does for them as well.

To some extent, it is the job of "coordinators" such as EE and Buddah to do the marketing for their clients (in this case, the providers they represent on this and other boards). That is why you'll see so many positive adjectives describing the wonderful talents and personalities of their mutual harems.

Simply from observation, Buddah clearly knows when to throw in the towel when it comes to a provider he represents who is not performing to his high standards. We have all watched numerous providers introduced by Buddah and for whatever reason they go solo or they simply disappear from all boards. My guess is that for every two providers who leave Buddah's nest, at least one of them didn't necessarily leave on her own (I believe he's booted many off his roster over the years for lack of performance or otherwise).

EE however, needs to wake up regarding Melea. The volume of posts consistently referring to her as a "dead fish" should leave us petitioning EE to be more honest. So, here it is.

EE: please be more honest? Either stop glossing over Melea's piss poor performance personality with your accolades about how wonderful she is in your posts about her or you may lose credibility among us mongers.

Anyone else have anything else to say about this? Should coordinators such as EE be more honest and responsive to our posts (especially when so many tell the same story)?

Mongernator[/QUOTE]I know the feeling bruddah. I got deadfish from a provider everyone else raves about, but in PM I've got a few more deadfish comments about her (Silkywetness). It's our obligation to spread the info and let the market forces work

Please guys. Take this report to heart and remember this before going to visit your provider of choice next time.

I am not a girl who is easily dominated. I'm not one who allows a man to treat me in way that he wants.

I'm a great girl, a very fun girl. I do my job, and I'm good at what I do. I'll give respect when it's given to me.

I'll accommodate any requests and ill fulfill your wants.

I do draw the line at some points.

Do not show up thinking you will finger me with dirty long fingernails. It won't happen.

From now on, I won't allow that. Too many times a guy shows up thinking he can shove his fingers into me and in the process of doing so, he is scratching me and it hurts! It doesn't feel good. Also, wash your hands before hand. Please! Do you know how much bacteria is under nails? Scratching a lady inside her vagina can cause bacterial infections. The dirt under your nails can get it the scratch. It doesn't feel good to us and I am not one to allow it if it hurts. Use lubricant! Be smart.

And most definitely, don't think your shoving your fingers with those nails into my bum! No way.

We ladies respect you men and most of us don't wear perfumes or strong deodorants.

Why show up smelling like you jumped out of some cheap cologne bottle?

I do not like providing oral when I have a mouth full of cologne. It's nasty and gross!

I don't want to be smothered by someone who smells that way. A little is great. I love a man that smells good. We all do? But there is a limit.

I will refuse to provide if I'm getting a mouth full of cologne. It doesn't taste good at all and it makes me gag. From now on, I'll politely ask that you shower.

No guy wants to come see us and we smell like a guy ravaged us and his smell is all over us, even our hair!

If my thigh highs smell like a man, someone went overboard!

I shouldn't have to scrub and scrub to get the smell off of me.

Last but not least.

I understand GFE.

But if you think you will show up and have me on my back for 50 minutes, you'll be disappointed.

My vagina is not a race track. Please respect that.

Some of these other girls may allow any type of attitude and behavior, but I do not.

I'm one of the best and I treat my men with respect.

If you show up treating me a certain way, or if area happy because I don't want to lick cologne off every inch of you, YMMV.

I'm a lady and will be treated as one. Not as some hoe.

Everyone have a great day!

Dawn

I know Hamilton has SWs but no clue as to where they are at etc. If someone who is familiar with this area could PM me some info on it that would be great, I live like 5 minutes from Hamilton.

Thegoodsh.

Thank you very much, Dear. We have not met and maybe never will, so I wanted to say thank you.

I was in a rush and running around doing errands while typing this report out so there are a few typos and I didn't quite explain some of the topics as I really wanted to, but I think I succeeded well in getting my points across.

I have met quite a few gentlemen in this business and they have been good to me, some very good, but I have also ran into a few boys whom I would have rather not met.

We will not all click and we will not all be what each likes. What one may like, another may not.

I always do my job and I do what's expected of me, but I may not always be smiling and the happiest if some of the above occur and if they all occur, well. I can promise that guy and I won't be meeting again in the future.

I am one of the best and I am super friendly, very comfortable and very accommodating, I just ask to be treated with respect.

What few forget. They are paying for our time, whatever happens in the process, happens.

I do not ever have to do something that I do not want to do. At the same time, if ever I choose to end a session before the time that is expected, I'll make sure the cost is correctly given back, etc. Recently, I came very close to ending a session. Something that I have never before wanted to do. It made for an uncomfortable atmosphere and I know neither of us was enjoying the company of the other. From the start of the text conversation and the way I was being spoken to, I wasn't feeling it. I went ahead with the appointment because I had agreed when I shouldn't have. My mistake, but lesson learned.

These things happen sometimes.

An appointment will go a lot better if some of the guys didn't do the above. A little issue fixed can make things a whole lot more fun and better!

For instance, the cologne.

Do you want to come see me, go to hug me and smell a strong cologne all over me? No. You won't be able to help the thoughts that will start in your mind regarding what had happened sometime before you. No man wants that. I just ask that cologne be kept to a minimum when getting ready for your day or before coming to see me. It makes me gag and a BJ is not enjoyable for me where as it would have been if all of that cologne wasn't covering there!

And the fingers. I try to guide a man and tell them what I enjoy etc, but most times they don't pay attention or they think I am just complaining and I should deal with it because they are paying me. It hurts! Would you like me pushing my fingers, with my nails, in and out of your dry bum hole at a fast pace? Those nails are scratching our skin and it hurts, it is not turning us on. Maybe apply lubricant before you begin that and your lady provider will be making noises of pleasure instead of noises of torture.

Also, another thing I run across.

When DATY is occuring. A guy will nip and tug / pull our skin with his teeth. That does not feel good nor does it turn us on, LOL. It hurts and it is uncomfortable.

Thinking one can show up and do me for 55 minutes is not cool. We get tired and dry. We need a break. Other things can be fun too. BJ / HJ, etc. Allow time to pass and go back to the other if wanted, but give her time. Give her vajaja time. She will appreciate you all the more and will be much more nicer to you. Don't give her attitude because she may just give it back. Holding it back for longer than 30 minutes, or going into the bathroom and jerking off beforehand, is noticed and not cool. She will stop doing that and move on to other ways of play just because she knows what you are doing and how you are treating her.

We are ladies, we have REAL feelings.

We shouldn't have to go cry in the bathroom after an appointment.

Would some of you men like your wives, daughters, sisters being treated that way? No, you wouldn't.

I do not see where someone would slam me for this post, but I expect one or two.

I do know that the gentlemen will appreciate this and will actually take some of this to heart and apply it.

Things would go so SOOO much better during the appointment.

I can take constructive criticism and I would think an adult male would be able to as well.

It helps us to better what we do!

Sorry for the rambling. I just felt that this was finally needed.

Have a great day,

Dawn.

[QUOTE=TheGoodSh; 1825996]I am sure there are some who don't want to hear it, but I think the hobby would be better if this kind of post happened more often.[/QUOTE]

WOW. What brought this one on?

[QUOTE=Delicious Dawn; 1825326]Please guys. Take this report to heart and remember this before going to visit your provider of choice next time.

I am not a girl who is easily dominated. I'm not one who allows a man to treat me in way that he wants.

I'm a great girl, a very fun girl. I do my job, and I'm good at what I do. I'll give respect when it's given to me.

I'll accommodate any requests and ill fulfill your wants.

I do draw the line at some points.

Do not show up thinking you will finger me with dirty long fingernails. It won't happen.

From now on, I won't allow that. Too many times a guy shows up thinking he can shove his fingers into me and in the process of doing so, he is scratching me and it hurts! It doesn't feel good. Also, wash your hands before hand. Please! Do you know how much bacteria is under nails? Scratching a lady inside her vagina can cause bacterial infections. The dirt under your nails can get it the scratch. It doesn't feel good to us and I am not one to allow it if it hurts. Use lubricant! Be smart.

And most definitely, don't think your shoving your fingers with those nails into my bum! No way.

We ladies respect you men and most of us don't wear perfumes or strong deodorants.

Why show up smelling like you jumped out of some cheap cologne bottle?

I do not like providing oral when I have a mouth full of cologne. It's nasty and gross!

I don't want to be smothered by someone who smells that way. A little is great. I love a man that smells good. We all do? But there is a limit.

I will refuse to provide if I'm getting a mouth full of cologne. It doesn't taste good at all and it makes me gag. From now on, I'll politely ask that you shower.

No guy wants to come see us and we smell like a guy ravaged us and his smell is all over us, even our hair!

If my thigh highs smell like a man, someone went overboard!

I shouldn't have to scrub and scrub to get the smell off of me.

Last but not least.

I understand GFE.

But if you think you will show up and have me on my back for 50 minutes, you'll be disappointed.

My vagina is not a race track. Please respect that.

Some of these other girls may allow any type of attitude and behavior, but I do not.

I'm one of the best and I treat my men with respect.

If you show up treating me a certain way, or if area happy because I don't want to lick cologne off every inch of you, YMMV.

I'm a lady and will be treated as one. Not as some hoe.

Everyone have a great day!

Dawn[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheGoodSh;1825996]I am sure there are some who don't want to hear it, but I think the hobby would be better if this kind of post happened more often.[/QUOTE]Personally I don't like having the curtain pulled back. I don't want to know my bartenders personal problems, I don't want to know if my mechanic and his wife are having problems.

I accept Dawn's premise that providers are people, I always treat them with respect but when I'm paying the kind of money I pay for a session I expect their complete attention on MY pleasure, that's THE REASON I pay them, so that I can be selfish.

All that being said, yes I take a shower IMMEDIATELY before a session, yes I trim my nails because she's right scratches all up in there are bad news. Yes I respect a providers right to determine her limits and she can make them whatever she wants, this is without qualification, their bodies are THEIR bodies. I just want to know what those limits are before hand so I can determine my limits on voting with my wallet. CBJ only, fine, no BJ at all, fine, no back door action, ok, it's all ok, but I will probably go elsewhere faced with some of the above limitations.

I engage in the hobby because I want drama free pleasure, if I wanted to worry about the fun they are having, well, I've been married twice before. That doesn't mean I don't whip out some of my DATY from time to time but I'm certainly not obligated to do it, I do it if I feel like doing it. None of this doesn't mean I'm not friendly, kind, respectful, because I am, just as I'm friendly kind, respectful with my bartender, barber, mechanic, I'm friendly, kind, respectful with everybody given the chance.

Personally I want to be able to maintain the fantasy that when I'm not with them, they are preparing to be with me. Working out, getting their hair done, nails, shopping for panties, making out with their girlfriends, then when I call they fix their makeup and wait for me with breathless anticipation, because they think I'm so hot that if they didn't have bills to pay they would bang me for free. I know none of that is the truth, I know they have kids, and parent teacher conferences, and menstrual cramps, and bad days, I know all that stuff, I just don't want to hear about it. If I did, I wouldn't play in this arena, it's not that I can't pull, I can, it's that I WANT to be COMPLETELY selfish and I'm paying for that privilege.

Dawn I respect your right to post what you want to in this thread and I applaud honesty at all times however the underlying contempt you have for your customers was very evident in that post. It wouldn't have been your rules that would have put me off if I lived in Cincy. This isn't a flame, I appreciate your candor and there are LOTS of guys that get off being with providers that treat them with contempt, your call volume will most likely increase not decrease with that post.

One other thing, when did "any money that exchanges hands is for time only" actually become real and not a polite fiction to get past ad censors?

Not written in blue, this is A2 the monger, not A2 the godlike presence on the forum posting.

A2

I totally agree with you. I personally like the woman to have a mutually good time as long as she assures me a good time. It usually makes for a better overall session.

What confuses me is that Dawn usually is not so blunt and I've never heard her talk this way before. She is "top notch," really easy on the eyes and probably just came off a bad experience or two or three. If she really feels this way about men then she must be a great "faker" because the couple of times I've been with her I never felt an "attitude." So unless something has changed in her life to make her cynical. I'll just chalk up that rant to letting off some steam from a bad date.

[QUOTE=Admin2; 1826345]Personally I don't like having the curtain pulled back. I don't want to know my bartenders personal problems, I don't want to know if my mechanic and his wife are having problems.

I accept Dawn's premise that providers are people, I always treat them with respect but when I'm paying the kind of money I pay for a session I expect their complete attention on MY pleasure, that's THE REASON I pay them, so that I can be selfish.

All that being said, yes I take a shower IMMEDIATELY before a session, yes I trim my nails because she's right scratches all up in there are bad news. Yes I respect a providers right to determine her limits and she can make them whatever she wants, this is without qualification, their bodies are THEIR bodies. I just want to know what those limits are before hand so I can determine my limits on voting with my wallet. CBJ only, fine, no BJ at all, fine, no back door action, ok, it's all ok, but I will probably go elsewhere faced with some of the above limitations.

I engage in the hobby because I want drama free pleasure, if I wanted to worry about the fun they are having, well, I've been married twice before. That doesn't mean I don't whip out some of my DATY from time to time but I'm certainly not obligated to do it, I do it if I feel like doing it. None of this doesn't mean I'm not friendly, kind, respectful, because I am, just as I'm friendly kind, respectful with my bartender, barber, mechanic, I'm friendly, kind, respectful with everybody given the chance.

Personally I want to be able to maintain the fantasy that when I'm not with them, they are preparing to be with me. Working out, getting their hair done, nails, shopping for panties, making out with their girlfriends, then when I call they fix their makeup and wait for me with breathless anticipation, because they think I'm so hot that if they didn't have bills to pay they would bang me for free. I know none of that is the truth, I know they have kids, and parent teacher conferences, and menstrual cramps, and bad days, I know all that stuff, I just don't want to hear about it. If I did, I wouldn't play in this arena, it's not that I can't pull, I can, it's that I WANT to be COMPLETELY selfish and I'm paying for that privilege.

Dawn I respect your right to post what you want to in this thread and I applaud honesty at all times however the underlying contempt you have for your customers was very evident in that post. It wouldn't have been your rules that would have put me off if I lived in Cincy. This isn't a flame, I appreciate your candor and there are LOTS of guys that get off being with providers that treat them with contempt, your call volume will most likely increase not decrease with that post.

One other thing, when did "any money that exchanges hands is for time only" actually become real and not a polite fiction to get past ad censors?

Not written in blue, this is A2 the monger, not A2 the godlike presence on the forum posting.

A2[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Admin2; 1826345]Personally I don't like having the curtain pulled back. I don't want to know my bartenders personal problems, I don't want to know if my mechanic and his wife are having problems.

I accept Dawn's premise that providers are people, I always treat them with respect but when I'm paying the kind of money I pay for a session I expect their complete attention on MY pleasure, that's THE REASON I pay them, so that I can be selfish.

All that being said, yes I take a shower IMMEDIATELY before a session, yes I trim my nails because she's right scratches all up in there are bad news. Yes I respect a providers right to determine her limits and she can make them whatever she wants, this is without qualification, their bodies are THEIR bodies. I just want to know what those limits are before hand so I can determine my limits on voting with my wallet. CBJ only, fine, no BJ at all, fine, no back door action, ok, it's all ok, but I will probably go elsewhere faced with some of the above limitations.

I engage in the hobby because I want drama free pleasure, if I wanted to worry about the fun they are having, well, I've been married twice before. That doesn't mean I don't whip out some of my DATY from time to time but I'm certainly not obligated to do it, I do it if I feel like doing it. None of this doesn't mean I'm not friendly, kind, respectful, because I am, just as I'm friendly kind, respectful with my bartender, barber, mechanic, I'm friendly, kind, respectful with everybody given the chance.

Personally I want to be able to maintain the fantasy that when I'm not with them, they are preparing to be with me. Working out, getting their hair done, nails, shopping for panties, making out with their girlfriends, then when I call they fix their makeup and wait for me with breathless anticipation, because they think I'm so hot that if they didn't have bills to pay they would bang me for free. I know none of that is the truth, I know they have kids, and parent teacher conferences, and menstrual cramps, and bad days, I know all that stuff, I just don't want to hear about it. If I did, I wouldn't play in this arena, it's not that I can't pull, I can, it's that I WANT to be COMPLETELY selfish and I'm paying for that privilege.

Dawn I respect your right to post what you want to in this thread and I applaud honesty at all times however the underlying contempt you have for your customers was very evident in that post. It wouldn't have been your rules that would have put me off if I lived in Cincy. This isn't a flame, I appreciate your candor and there are LOTS of guys that get off being with providers that treat them with contempt, your call volume will most likely increase not decrease with that post.

One other thing, when did "any money that exchanges hands is for time only" actually become real and not a polite fiction to get past ad censors?

Not written in blue, this is A2 the monger, not A2 the godlike presence on the forum posting.

A2[/QUOTE]I agree with A2, I don't want to see the little old man behind the curtain pulling all the levers to keep things running in the hobby of fantasy.

That said, as I have stated before, I believe that if you do your best not to be an smelly ogre and make your provider happy, you will more than likely have a better session. So I do try to shave and shower just before the session, and do keep my nails trimmed to the quick, especially since my best technique is digital stimulation, combined with DATY that leads to squirting orgasms.

As to performing DATY, I usually love it, unless the lady is unclean or has strange eating habits-ladies just a heads up, if you eat a bunch of onions, guess what you will taste like down there. The same is true for guys-some foods have a dramatic impact on how your fluids taste. Onions bad, kiwi and pineapple good.

I like to think I am pretty good at DATY, but have an ulterior motive. I have often been tempted to ask A2 to change my name to Goatboy:

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JQIoc2FCvc[/url]

Ladies, tie me to your headboard, throw your legs over my shoulders and let me wear you like a feedbag. Goatboy is here to please you.