[QUOTE=Crawusa;5462072]So which spa is kc at?[/QUOTE]The one I meet was at oriental spa.
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[QUOTE=Crawusa;5462072]So which spa is kc at?[/QUOTE]The one I meet was at oriental spa.
Not familiar with that name. Mine was Gb spa.
[QUOTE=Crawusa;5480065]Had a nice massage. Even got 2 girl thrown in for free. Very nice four hand rub down. They even took turns with shake and both sets were out and in face. Both very cute. Didn't get names. Will return soon.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing. I have not been there in over a year b / c I was not satisfied and / or lost interest in their providers and service. Your post says that maybe things have improved there and the providers are no longer the 45-50.
Yr. Old chunky ones.
[QUOTE=Crawusa;5480065]Had a nice massage. Even got 2 girl thrown in for free. Very nice four hand rub down. They even took turns with shake and both sets were out and in face. Both very cute. Didn't get names. Will return soon.[/QUOTE]One tiny girl and the other a bigger lady? I got suckered into the 4 hand and the big girl was suffocating me with her stomach LOL. Never again.
So I am not from Green Bay, but I travel there every now and then. I was there about a month ago and after reading the forum, Golden seemed to be the best place to get extras beyond the standard handshake. Unfortunately, I was wrong, and both the massage and the ending were mediocre at best. Can anybody point me in the direction of the most likely place to get extra services, and perhaps from a provider who is more attractive than your average GB AMP masseuse? I can take the info right on here, or in PM's, and it would be very much appreciated.
[QUOTE=MKEhe;5505211]So I am not from Green Bay, but I travel there every now and then. I was there about a month ago and after reading the forum, Golden seemed to be the best place to get extras beyond the standard handshake. Unfortunately, I was wrong, and both the massage and the ending were mediocre at best. Can anybody point me in the direction of the most likely place to get extra services, and perhaps from a provider who is more attractive than your average GB AMP masseuse? I can take the info right on here, or in PM's, and it would be very much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Right now a good place is the one off Deckner, but bring more than you would care to spend. $$ will get FS, $.2 for CBJ which some people may pay, but I certainly won't.
[QUOTE=FltRider;5510692]Right now a good place is the one off Deckner, but bring more than you would care to spend. $$ will get FS, $.2 for CBJ which some people may pay, but I certainly won't.[/QUOTE]Please people, do not cave and pay ridiculous tip amounts. Once you do, the inflated rate is all you're going to get. Please cause them to bring their demands into reality and market rates. They think they have the market cornered on CBJ and FS perhaps, but never pay a fat, or old, more than $100 for FS. Even if there is a "younger" one 40 ish etc. in decent shape, $120 (maybe $140 if she is really good with the massage and not annoying with the tips, and doesn't short you on time etc.) should be the high end. $140 gets you FS with a hottie elsewhere. Don't allow Green Bay to become an inflated place for tips, with subpar women.
[QUOTE=FltRider;5510692]Right now a good place is the one off Deckner, but bring more than you would care to spend. $$ will get FS, $.2 for CBJ which some people may pay, but I certainly won't.[/QUOTE]What is the name of the one off of Deckner Ave? I haven't been in that area for quite sometime.
[QUOTE=CWyoop76;5512289]What is the name of the one off of Deckner Ave? I haven't been in that area for quite sometime.[/QUOTE]The name changes frequently. I think it's Oriental at the moment.
[QUOTE=GMan25;5511497]Please people, do not cave and pay ridiculous tip amounts. Once you do, the inflated rate is all you're going to get. Please cause them to bring their demands into reality and market rates. They think they have the market cornered on CBJ and FS perhaps, but never pay a fat, or old, more than $100 for FS. Even if there is a "younger" one 40 ish etc. in decent shape, $120 (maybe $140 if she is really good with the massage and not annoying with the tips, and doesn't short you on time etc.) should be the high end. $140 gets you FS with a hottie elsewhere. Don't allow Green Bay to become an inflated place for tips, with subpar women.[/QUOTE]I agree with you for the most part, but where did you find a hottie for 140. Finding a stable, hottie at any price is a unicorn.
[QUOTE=IfNotNow;5512914]I agree with you for the most part, but where did you find a hottie for 140. Finding a stable, hottie at any price is a unicorn.[/QUOTE]In Green Bay, they are not consistently in town, but occasionally they will make the rotation through one of the AMPs. But, even then, $120 is more like it. $140 is the rate for 60 minutes with FS around Chicago where the women are not 50+ old bags. In Green Bay a 40 ish woman that looks alright, and is slim, is still not worth $160 or higher. I am not going to support GPS and I will always discourage others from encouraging it as well. The market should not have inflated tips. They will eventually bring their rates in line with their age etc. If suckers quit paying $160 and higher as if they have never seen a naked woman before, or as if they never ever get laid. Acting desperate like a loser is not in our best interests. The other issue is, if the less than young and attractive provider drops her rate from $140 to $100, their business should pick up, but only if suckers quit paying a disgusting old bag you wouldn't even look twice during last call in the bar.
[QUOTE=GMan25;5512933]In Green Bay, they are not consistently in town, but occasionally they will make the rotation through one of the AMPs. But, even then, $120 is more like it. $140 is the rate for 60 minutes with FS around Chicago where the women are not 50+ old bags. In Green Bay a 40 ish woman that looks alright, and is slim, is still not worth $160 or higher. I am not going to support GPS and I will always discourage others from encouraging it as well. The market should not have inflated tips. They will eventually bring their rates in line with their age etc. If suckers quit paying $160 and higher as if they have never seen a naked woman before, or as if they never ever get laid. Acting desperate like a loser is not in our best interests. The other issue is, if the less than young and attractive provider drops her rate from $140 to $100, their business should pick up, but only if suckers quit paying a disgusting old bag you wouldn't even look twice during last call in the bar.[/QUOTE]Bring exact change if you go to this one. First, it is the fee, which they do not bring change back for. Then, they do not bring change back if you agree to anything else.
I was driving down Military today and noticed Day Spa has reopened in the same strip mall as Gohn.
[QUOTE=Smm74;5524161]I was driving down Military today and noticed Day Spa has reopened in the same strip mall as Gohn.[/QUOTE]I guess they feel they were competing enough anyway being a few blocks apart. I bet they assume if one is busy, mongers will just walk through the other's door.
I was thinking the same thing. Seems counterintuitive. Maybe they plan to share ladies.
Hello,
Longtime user, just haven't logged in in a long time, wanted to give a report on GB Spa. I have been there twice in the last month and a half. The first time I had a young female very attractive, kept on asking if I was LE, excellent massage, and plenty of teasing and finish. The second time a little bit older but good massage and finish as well. I would say the first time was the better of the two experiences.
I stopped in the new Day Massage Spa in the same strip mall as Gonh Spa on Military Ave. Two ladies working. Both older 50+, but one is sort of cute / pretty and slender, while the other is the typical unattractive frumpy type. The slender one said her name was "Julia. " But, I had to ask twice, and both times it sounded like Joofala. So my hearing may not be what it used to be. The place looks nice enough inside too. $60 for an hour. I did not partake due to time constraints, but I did stop in to get a business card with the phone number.
(the usual ploy to look at the talent and check a place out without investing any time and money on a site unseen).
They are advertising and their ads suggest it is hottie city and services will be good.
[URL]http://bodyrubsmap.com/ad/204623.html[/URL]
First time I ever walked out on an establishment. Went in there, was met by a mid 40's not to shabby looking. Pretty good body. She took me to a room and asked how long. I said 60 min. I thought she said 160. I said all I got it 120. When I gave her the money she grabbed my junk and started tugging. She then counted and said not enough. I said that's all I have. She said more. I thought she said 1 more 20. So I was feeling pretty comfortable, so I got another 20 out. She said again not enough. I had 160 in my hand. She said that would get me 30 min massage and hand job. I said how much for hour. She said 260. I said I can go to other place and get massage and HJ for 100. She said she will suck me off for 260. I finally said no and walked out. No way I'm paying 260 for a massage and BJ.
[QUOTE=JoeKing82;5533792]First time I ever walked out on an establishment. Went in there, was met by a mid 40's not to shabby looking. Pretty good body. She took me to a room and asked how long. I said 60 min. I thought she said 160. I said all I got it 120. When I gave her the money she grabbed my junk and started tugging. She then counted and said not enough. I said that's all I have. She said more. I thought she said 1 more 20. So I was feeling pretty comfortable, so I got another 20 out. She said again not enough. I had 160 in my hand. She said that would get me 30 min massage and hand job. I said how much for hour. She said 260. I said I can go to other place and get massage and HJ for 100. She said she will suck me off for 260. I finally said no and walked out. No way I'm paying 260 for a massage and BJ.[/QUOTE]Congratulations, you probably met Casey / K. C. Or maybe Michelle. Even for her (Casey who has a bad case of GPS, her behavior was outrageous). $60 for a massage and your providing a $60 tip was more than a premium price. The fact that she was trying to extort $200 for a HJ is bullshit. Fuck that place.
[QUOTE=GMan25;5533896]Congratulations, you probably met Casey / K. C. Or maybe Michelle. Even for her (Casey who has a bad case of GPS, her behavior was outrageous). $60 for a massage and your providing a $60 tip was more than a premium price. The fact that she was trying to extort $200 for a HJ is bullshit. Fuck that place.[/QUOTE]It's become a joke there, I stopped wasting my money there. There must be some really desperate guys in GB that keep paying their insane prices.
Wow! That is pretty bad! You did the right thing. One thing I always do is bring enough for what I feel is right for the extras I want. No more. Negotiate what you want and if they don't like it then I ain't forking up either and pay the minimum tip for what I feel is worth it. Don't let them hustle you. Remember you call the shots. Hope you find a better place. Some times I really just need a massage and these places are just getting worse by the day.
[QUOTE=JoeKing82;5533792]First time I ever walked out on an establishment. Went in there, was met by a mid 40's not to shabby looking. Pretty good body. She took me to a room and asked how long. I said 60 min. I thought she said 160. I said all I got it 120. When I gave her the money she grabbed my junk and started tugging. She then counted and said not enough. I said that's all I have. She said more. I thought she said 1 more 20. So I was feeling pretty comfortable, so I got another 20 out. She said again not enough. I had 160 in my hand. She said that would get me 30 min massage and hand job. I said how much for hour. She said 260. I said I can go to other place and get massage and HJ for 100. She said she will suck me off for 260. I finally said no and walked out. No way I'm paying 260 for a massage and BJ.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JoeKing82;5533792]First time I ever walked out on an establishment. Went in there, was met by a mid 40's not to shabby looking. Pretty good body. She took me to a room and asked how long. I said 60 min. I thought she said 160. I said all I got it 120. When I gave her the money she grabbed my junk and started tugging. She then counted and said not enough. I said that's all I have. She said more. I thought she said 1 more 20. So I was feeling pretty comfortable, so I got another 20 out. She said again not enough. I had 160 in my hand. She said that would get me 30 min massage and hand job. I said how much for hour. She said 260. I said I can go to other place and get massage and HJ for 100. She said she will suck me off for 260. I finally said no and walked out. No way I'm paying 260 for a massage and BJ.[/QUOTE]I always say "one hour" or "half hour".
[QUOTE=GMan25;5512933]In Green Bay, they are not consistently in town, but occasionally they will make the rotation through one of the AMPs. But, even then, $120 is more like it. $140 is the rate for 60 minutes with FS around Chicago where the women are not 50+ old bags. In Green Bay a 40 ish woman that looks alright, and is slim, is still not worth $160 or higher. I am not going to support GPS and I will always discourage others from encouraging it as well. The market should not have inflated tips. They will eventually bring their rates in line with their age etc. If suckers quit paying $160 and higher as if they have never seen a naked woman before, or as if they never ever get laid. Acting desperate like a loser is not in our best interests. The other issue is, if the less than young and attractive provider drops her rate from $140 to $100, their business should pick up, but only if suckers quit paying a disgusting old bag you wouldn't even look twice during last call in the bar.[/QUOTE]Huh. I've been visiting some of these places for the last couple years and FS has always been denied. Thought it only happened in the larger cities like Chicago.
[QUOTE=Smm74;5534354]It's become a joke there, I stopped wasting my money there. There must be some really desperate guys in GB that keep paying their insane prices.[/QUOTE]And, if any of you are reading these posts, Smm74 is correct. You are desperate, and being taken advantage of. We can drive the market rates. I am not implying driving costs down. I am merely saying we can drive the cost down to what is a reasonable and customary.
Took one for the team and visited the new Day Spa Massage in the same strip mall as Gonh. Nothing out of the ordinary, nice inside, usual $60 for an hour etc. They have one thin lady and one thick lady. Both probably 55-60 years old. I got the thin one. Massage was relaxing, but there was no pressure at all. No tease what so ever during the massage, and no grazing either. After the hot towel and pat down, I got a little bit of a tease down in that area, but it wasn't blatant. At the flip, the tease continued, but no touching of junior occurred, but she gave me the look and I nodded, so she went to work. The nice thing was, she did not negotiate a tip. She just went to work. Allowed some roaming (small A cups, old granny tits). After I finished, got the hot towel clean up, and about two minutes of added rubbing on the legs. Then she said times up. Shorted about 10-15 minutes due to customers waiting.
So I have always heard about Full Service being offered, but I never believed. I thought it was like the loch-ness monster or sasquatch, or a mystical unicorn possibly real but also could be a made up story. Well yesterday, I saw a unicorn. And am a believer now.
So I went to Sunrise for the first time since probably last fall (and when I went last fall, the gal was trying to get a bigger tip out of me and block the door almost not letting me leave, I didn't give a bigger tip and I just left. . . And it was only a HE, with shorten time.
Well, I decided to give it a try since my last experience and see if things improved at all. I opted for the 30 minutes massage for $40, the massage was piss poor. . . Definitely not worth $40, but I wasn't shorten on time at least.
Anyway, I was greeted by a lady who had a little mileage around the stomach area. But overall not to bad looking; on a scale of 1-10, I would give her a 5.
Upon entering the room after I got ready for my massage, she has me stand up and started right away with a nice rubbing of Mr. Happy. She asked what I wanted, and I shared the full menu. Everything.
She said no at first, but I insisted, and she then mentioned she had no caps for me, to which I replied I brought my own. Then she agreed. This was the first time I have finally received full service.
I left a nice tip $$, a little more than double the massage. . . But not over tipping. I am willing to tip a little more for full service for just a HE or self service. She didn't try to get more out of me. . . It may be worth a return visit in the future, definitely better than my last time.
So keep hunting and who knows you to might find a sasquatch or a mystical unicorn. They are out there, and having found one, I can't wait to find another.
It has always been around and good for you that you found it but $$ is actually over tipping for 30 mins. I know who you're referring to and yes she has a lot of mileage on her. She comes and goes.
[QUOTE=Hgauff40;5551857]So I have always heard about Full Service being offered, but I never believed. I thought it was like the loch-ness monster or sasquatch, or a mystical unicorn possibly real but also could be a made up story. Well yesterday, I saw a unicorn. And am a believer now.
So I went to Sunrise for the first time since probably last fall (and when I went last fall, the gal was trying to get a bigger tip out of me and block the door almost not letting me leave, I didn't give a bigger tip and I just left. . . And it was only a HE, with shorten time.
Well, I decided to give it a try since my last experience and see if things improved at all. I opted for the 30 minutes massage for $40, the massage was piss poor. . . Definitely not worth $40, but I wasn't shorten on time at least.
Anyway, I was greeted by a lady who had a little mileage around the stomach area. But overall not to bad looking; on a scale of 1-10, I would give her a 5.
Upon entering the room after I got ready for my massage, she has me stand up and started right away with a nice rubbing of Mr. Happy. She asked what I wanted, and I shared the full menu. Everything.
She said no at first, but I insisted, and she then mentioned she had no caps for me, to which I replied I brought my own. Then she agreed. This was the first time I have finally received full service..[/QUOTE]
Long time reader here. The massage parlors in the Green Bay Area have been mediocre at best so I'm looking for other places. Has anyone been to this lady?
I believe she used to go by Sunshine? Is she still legit from what I remember seeing on here she was a good provider.
Thanks.
[URL]https://green-bay.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/maribella/895501545190[/URL]
[QUOTE=BigDickBen;5554162]Long time reader here. The massage parlors in the Green Bay Area have been mediocre at best so I'm looking for other places. Has anyone been to this lady?
I believe she used to go by Sunshine? Is she still legit from what I remember seeing on here she was a good provider.
Thanks.
[URL]https://green-bay.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/maribella/895501545190[/URL][/QUOTE]I saw her last week after no responses from at least 15 other providers. That being said she has a very tight small body and good personality. They years have taken their toll. Location smells heavily of smoke. Two blankets on the floor.
They seem to be rotating daily. Meaning, they have 3-4 girls taking different days each week. Two of the ones working yesterday were ugly and flabby. Old timer Coco was working yesterday as well, but she is not there most of the time. Anyone try the new place in strip mall by Gonh, called Day Spa?
[QUOTE=GMan25;5572487]They seem to be rotating daily. Meaning, they have 3-4 girls taking different days each week. Two of the ones working yesterday were ugly and flabby. Old timer Coco was working yesterday as well, but she is not there most of the time. Anyone try the new place in strip mall by Gonh, called Day Spa?[/QUOTE]I haven't been to the new Day Spa in the strip mall but did venture over to Oriental Spa and had what I would consider a fair time given the reviews this place has garnered. I arrived sometime just after 8 pm and the MT (Michelle) refused to book an hour and only accepted a 30 min appt, I guess I had places to be because I don't recall that bothering me too much. The massage was non existent but she was doing a fair job at a light touch tease and junior was ready after only 10 short minutes she had me flip. She asked what I wanted and everything was on the table, like others hinted these MT are money hungry.
Knowing what is available in Chicago and understanding its a multi-hour trek to get there let alone home I was comfortable paying Chicago prices, sorry if you feel this raises the rates, I will be more diligent about price and will be open to walking out in the future. Anyways, their rate for 30 min I think is. 45 and for 60 min is. 65, this was to my detriment because I had to break a Jackson in order to cover the house fee and ruined my tactic of giving away how much I had on me. I offered up a tip of 1. 20 for everything and ended I think at a tip of 1. 35 plus the. 45 for the house fee.
Having notched my first visit I will probably repeat again but would like to see what Sunrise has to offer first and will be more adamant about tipping. Michelle provided an adequate finish and was vocal but was remindful of not touching which is was a real turn off and if they are clean enough I have DATY at parlors and enjoyed it as they are usually cleaner than some advertising in the escort sections of skg.
[QUOTE=Agrego;5575851]I haven't been to the new Day Spa in the strip mall but did venture over to Oriental Spa and had what I would consider a fair time given the reviews this place has garnered. I arrived sometime just after 8 pm and the MT (Michelle) refused to book an hour and only accepted a 30 min appt, I guess I had places to be because I don't recall that bothering me too much. The massage was non existent but she was doing a fair job at a light touch tease and junior was ready after only 10 short minutes she had me flip. She asked what I wanted and everything was on the table, like others hinted these MT are money hungry.
Knowing what is available in Chicago and understanding its a multi-hour trek to get there let alone home I was comfortable paying Chicago prices, sorry if you feel this raises the rates, I will be more diligent about price and will be open to walking out in the future. Anyways, their rate for 30 min I think is. 45 and for 60 min is. 65, this was to my detriment because I had to break a Jackson in order to cover the house fee and ruined my tactic of giving away how much I had on me. I offered up a tip of 1. 20 for everything and ended I think at a tip of 1. 35 plus the. 45 for the house fee.
Having notched my first visit I will probably repeat again but would like to see what Sunrise has to offer first and will be more adamant about tipping. Michelle provided an adequate finish and was vocal but was remindful of not touching which is was a real turn off and if they are clean enough I have DATY at parlors and enjoyed it as they are usually cleaner than some advertising in the escort sections of skg.[/QUOTE]Their hour rate is $60, but I am not a fan of their demanding outrageous tip amounts that are higher than what you would pay for a true hottie in Mt. Prospect. I get it that Green Bay is not exactly competitive, but Mt. Prospect for an hour with FS is $140. We shouldn't be paying more than that here in Green Bay. Thanks for the report.
I took a trip to Sunshine Menasha. This trip and the first trip were polar opposites.
I drew the short straw and got the 1000 year old hag. I should have turned around and went home, but she was already holding the junk, so decision made. She couldn't have been less interested in doing an actual massage. It was really more like a light rub down. After about 15 minutes, she wanted the flip. What followed was a ham handed finish. I was out the door in 30 minutes. Anna was her name. Best to be avoided.
[QUOTE=YoungBuck4950;5556456]I saw her last week after no responses from at least 15 other providers. That being said she has a very tight small body and good personality. They years have taken their toll. Location smells heavily of smoke. Two blankets on the floor.[/QUOTE]I've been trying to contact Maribelle and there is no response. Anyone have any luck getting a response from her? Looks like alot of fun!
Been going to this place for a while as the younger, cuter gal was a lot of fun there. But this time I drew Anna. She is the same Annie or Anna of a few years back, but man has life hit her hard. She looks old, and has a fupa now. I didn't know it was here until she said her name and said she remembered me. Anyway, she is off my list and if she is my only choice, I'll turn around and leave. Live and learn.
[QUOTE=FltRider;5599772]Been going to this place for a while as the younger, cuter gal was a lot of fun there. But this time I drew Anna. She is the same Annie or Anna of a few years back, but man has life hit her hard. She looks old, and has a fupa now. I didn't know it was here until she said her name and said she remembered me. Anyway, she is off my list and if she is my only choice, I'll turn around and leave. Live and learn.[/QUOTE]FitRider, I share your sentiment, plus more. You are correct about Anna. She is deteriorating, gaining weight, and now has a square body similar in build to Sponge Bob. The other woman there, was known last year as Jessica (and now says her name is Amy. Her menu is less than it was, and I am not foolish enough to hump her leg and shoot a load. Plus, she has been a bit of a pain in the ass with tips. And I'd I say she likes to play games with her shrinking menu? I saw them both a couple of times when they returned a couple of months ago, and gave them each another shot after disappointing visits. I have not been back. I can handle a woman aging, as long as they provide good consistent service. The ladies at Sunrise have gone downhill and so has their service.
Thought I give it a shot. Coco was the name. Not too bad. Bit of a belly but was wearing skanky dress. Boobs were totally there to see. Paid for hhr and never got my change back. Massage was very weak. Just a touch here touch there no oil. Wouldn't even call it a massage. 15 mins in and she says turn over and starts negotiating right away. For some reason she said I do it free but had me tip upfront before the standard. She wanted. 8 for the standard and said half of it was for owner and half for her. No way. Idk who would be willing to pay for that but I wasn't having it and said just the usual. 4 she finally stopped trying to hustle me and gets on with it. She immediately says 5 mins left when she starts the standard. She's not bad on the looks but her service is terrible. I wish they would keep the girls that do a good job and the ones I frequent. Unfortunately they always bring in these new girls who try to hustle you for such a terrible service that even I can do better myself.
Once or twice a year I get to sample the GB AMP scene. Recently on way home from the northwoods I stopped at Oriental. Pretty much as others have reported. 60 for the hour door fee, decent massage for 40 minutes while face down, after the flip she asked what I wanted. I asked what was available and she said whatever I wanted. We negotiated a covered BJ. (She was happy I brought my own raincoat) The starting point for tip wasn't outrageous. Wanted payment first, which is always a mood killer. Without prompting she also brought out a nice pair of B's / C's to enjoy. For a skinny Asian she had nice naturals on her. With the mask she might pass as 30 ish, once the mask was down I'd say she is 50's. Could be wrong. I'd repeat and enjoy again if it wasn't so far from home. Service was good.
[QUOTE=Khs85;5647610]Once or twice a year I get to sample the GB AMP scene. Recently on way home from the northwoods I stopped at Oriental. Pretty much as others have reported. 60 for the hour door fee, decent massage for 40 minutes while face down, after the flip she asked what I wanted. I asked what was available and she said whatever I wanted. We negotiated a covered BJ. (She was happy I brought my own raincoat) The starting point for tip wasn't outrageous. Wanted payment first, which is always a mood killer. Without prompting she also brought out a nice pair of B's / C's to enjoy. For a skinny Asian she had nice naturals on her. With the mask she might pass as 30 ish, once the mask was down I'd say she is 50's. Could be wrong. I'd repeat and enjoy again if it wasn't so far from home. Service was good.[/QUOTE]Where is this? I don't see it on Google maps, or anything else nearby, especially with two schools on Deckner.
[QUOTE=HeywoodJablow;5647690]Where is this? I don't see it on Google maps, or anything else nearby, especially with two schools on Deckner.[/QUOTE]It is the place on Deckner. Currently working is 60 yr old coco and a short fat one named Sofia. The better talent has left for now due to not having a WI massage license.