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Mrs. Haeyo informed me that some shit hit the fan down your way Monday night. She still knows many of the girls who work in the area and one of them told her that one of the spas was trashed by some young guys.
Apparently all of the girls and the mamasan are okay.
Anybody know anything about this? PMs are good.
Be careful down there bros.
SH
[QUOTE=Sarang Haeyo]Mrs. Haeyo informed me that some shit hit the fan down your way Monday night. She still knows many of the girls who work in the area and one of them told her that one of the spas was trashed by some young guys.
Apparently all of the girls and the mamasan are okay.
Anybody know anything about this? PMs are good.
Be careful down there bros.
SH[/QUOTE]
Wow, that's horrible news. And people wonder why screening is necessary!
Went to the spa off of 10th , was buzzed in and passed a monger up the stairs. Mammasan greeted me and collected the standard fee. In came Nikki and I must say I was dissapointed in the looks department. She said she was mixed with Thai & Indian, anyways started off a the TS barely scrubbing the right areas. We moved onto the massage and she asked if I wanted anything to drink and kept eyeing the table, I guess a hint to leave the tip out before she gets back. Left out a $ in plane sight and lied back hoping there might be more enthusiasm in the relaxation techniques she offered. Started off with a CBJ and moved onto, 69 which she thoroughly enjoyed, doggie and missionary with a happy ending. All in all nice girl, but I will add she is a huge talker, she wants to chat the whole time. Service was not bad but for me I like toned slender bodys and a nice face. I imagine she was in her late 30s and it showed, also rock hard boobs which I was not a fan of.
Is there a reason that this incident has to be kept such a secret? Honestly, I want to know what the reason is. What's the worst that can happen if you just let the rest of us know what happened? Perhaps someone going in or out before or after the incident can contribute. They did this once successfully, what's to stop them from doing it again? Are we just going to keep acting like little girls and keep it a secret? It's pretty asinine.
And to add on, if it's such a secret, why bother posting in the first place?
To brag you have an AMP contact?
Please.
[QUOTE=Seven Eleven]And to add on, if it's such a secret, why bother posting in the first place?
To brag you have an AMP contact?
Please.[/QUOTE]And to make it more clandestine we could refer to it as whateverland!
Toughen up.
My post clearly states if you know anything about an AMP being trashed, PM me. You don't know anything about it so don't PM me. I didn't tell you because I don't know you and based on the content of your posts; I don't WANT to know you.
I'm trying to get confirmation or denial about what I heard happened. You can provide neither.
The girls want to keep it a "secret" because such an incident could be bad for business.
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Saiyen,
You were in the right vicinity but at the wrong place. You should have venture next door to the Royal court. If you like toned slender body, you ask for Hana. She is about 5'3, B/C with nice nips, slender, flat stomach, beautiful face, and gives one hell of a massage.
Don't mind the "pussy farts" in certain position with her, it's harmless. It surprised me at first but now I'm used to it. Oh, and she loves DATY.
Unfortunately, I am away right now so I can't see her as often. The Mamasan is very nice there.
Ian
[QUOTE=Saiyen]Went to the spa off of 10th , was buzzed in and passed a monger up the stairs. Mammasan greeted me and collected the standard fee. In came Nikki and I must say I was dissapointed in the looks department. She said she was mixed with Thai & Indian, anyways started off a the TS barely scrubbing the right areas. We moved onto the massage and she asked if I wanted anything to drink and kept eyeing the table, I guess a hint to leave the tip out before she gets back. Left out a $ in plane sight and lied back hoping there might be more enthusiasm in the relaxation techniques she offered. Started off with a CBJ and moved onto, 69 which she thoroughly enjoyed, doggie and missionary with a happy ending. All in all nice girl, but I will add she is a huge talker, she wants to chat the whole time. Service was not bad but for me I like toned slender bodys and a nice face. I imagine she was in her late 30s and it showed, also rock hard boobs which I was not a fan of.[/QUOTE]
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Another visit to Green - when'd they paint that door red?
Front door was locked. Mamasan unable to buzz me in - had to come out & let me in. She wasn't happy with someone about it - fussed in Korean. Taken back to second room on the right & asked to wait. After about five minutes, Kay came in, collected the fee & then guided me to the TS for a thorough scrubbing.
Kay's early thirties with natural curves.
Back in the room, she gave me a decent massage. She climbed on my back to put all her weight into it. That said, she still was a rather light touch. After about fifteen minutes she asked if she could take care of me. Naturally, I said yes. She disappeared for a few minutes, returned asked me to flip. Short CBJ - basically long enough to apply the cover & then jumped on for some CG. After a while (this is when I can't keep track of time) she asked if I wanted to change places. I wasn't quite ready, so she rode a little longer. Finally changed over for a little dog & finished up mish.
TS 6
Face 7
Body 8
Massage 7
Service 8
Attitude 8
Overall good experience as I've come to expect here. Total visit a little more than an hour. Kay's been around for about a month - I see a couple previous reviews on her back couple weeks on this board. She says she'll be around for a while.
Swung by Paridise an drew a little Honey.
A deffinate 9 across the board. Everything was enjoyable, from the TS and massage to the finish. Will repeat on my next long lunch break.
Also, Full lips for DATY as an added bonus.
New to the DC group but all my spots in NOVA are no more. Thanks to reading about 7 or 8 pages back I was able to find 1413 and meet Young. She was not really that young or much of a spinner but she was pretty. Good table shower with extra attention to the backside. She did a back walk wich was great. I missed the actual massage in NOVA they always skipped over it. Then she gave a prostate massage. I have not had one since the old days at Maryland spas! On to CBJ, refused the DATY wich was a bummer but after the mish, offered an extra pop but sneezed an popped little daddy right out!
Only bummer was that she tried the upsell asking for a "bonus". I just smiled and told her I knew the standard prices. She asked if she did a good job. I let her know she did but as for the bonus "maybe next time baby, promise". How many times have we heard that!!
I think I may try finding Hana at Royal that I just read about. I am not that familiar with DC but will do my best.
BDD - Welcome to the land where 'bawdy places' are undefined...
[QUOTE=Jack Bones]Another visit to Green - when'd they paint that door red?
...
Kay's early thirties with natural curves.
...
Overall good experience as I've come to expect here. Total visit a little more than an hour. Kay's been around for about a month - I see a couple previous reviews on her back couple weeks on this board. She says she'll be around for a while.[/QUOTE]
This must be the same girl I had, the process is exactly the same. Don't know why I never seem to get (or remember) their names. Probably because I know that they don't mean anything. But would be helpful when it comes time for reviews I guess.
Thanks for the welcome to DC!
I RTFF'd some more and found to the place of Royalty. Ian's advise was right. Hana was just what I needed today. Spinner out to please.All the standard fare was nicely attended to. I would have to give straight 8's and a 9 for her body. Definitly will repeat since we clicked nicely the first time it will probably get better.
Now I just need to find them younger!!
Thanks for the advise I was given by some of the esteemed members here.
[QUOTE=Bseeks]This must be the same girl I had, the process is exactly the same. Don't know why I never seem to get (or remember) their names. Probably because I know that they don't mean anything. But would be helpful when it comes time for reviews I guess.[/QUOTE]Don't feel bad. I had to ask her to remind me of her name three times during the session! You're right about the names not meaning a thing. I think there might be about a dozen (maybe less) "standard issue" names.
Finally found the green door! Very easy to find once you know, but don't believe the online maps.
Met Connie, a total hottie and sweetheart. Spinner type, b-cups, curly hair, pretty face. Great attitude, lots of energy. No time to say what we did, but I'll be back for sure. And to think I almost left after waiting 15 minutes.
Just what we need. Some meatheads doing something stupid. The screening process might just go up a bunch, LE might get wind of it and get involved. Assholes. We should find 'them and kick some ass.
Cabbie!
[QUOTE=Sarang Haeyo]Mrs. Haeyo informed me that some shit hit the fan down your way Monday night. She still knows many of the girls who work in the area and one of them told her that one of the spas was trashed by some young guys.
Apparently all of the girls and the mamasan are okay.
Anybody know anything about this? PMs are good.
Be careful down there bros.
SH[/QUOTE]
Just a sad reminder that the sentencing date for all the owners from last years black Wednesday is next week. Most of the owners will get 12 - 18 months, pay fines and in at least a couple cases get deported after serving their time. A few of the working girls who testified have now been put on the fast track for green cards, most deported. Kind of interesting that a couple who had been deported are back working in LA and Texas. Makes you wonder if they can get in who else can? Just my most likely last intel for 12 - 18 months.
Kimchi,
It's quite sad to hear harsh sentences handed down to perpetrators of "victimless" crimes.
It's laughable to see how porous American borders are and the constant political foreplay on border security. Unfortunately, money is the primary motivator for facilitators and I wonder if these people care who they bring across; just Koreans or whoever has the cash. If it's the ladder, then we're fucked sideways.
I personally know of two Mamasan involved. They paid a hefty lawyer's fees and now back to work. One of them was spotted by a friend in the Metro circuit.
Whatever happened to the money guys and taxis? What kind of sentences did they get? I heard they were remanded.
In terms of fast track green card, I heard from a former Downtown diva identifying Jay to be among those who testified. However, her green card was limited to two years. After that, she'll need to secure a new green card using other means or risk deportation. Last I heard, she is now in LA.
Does this ring true with you?
Ian
[QUOTE=Kimchi]Just a sad reminder that the sentencing date for all the owners from last years black Wednesday is next week. Most of the owners will get 12 - 18 months, pay fines and in at least a couple cases get deported after serving their time. A few of the working girls who testified have now been put on the fast track for green cards, most deported. Kind of interesting that a couple who had been deported are back working in LA and Texas. Makes you wonder if they can get in who else can? Just my most likely last intel for 12 - 18 months.[/QUOTE]
Removed.,,,,,
Newbie here! have been reading posts for a few days now, still trying to figure out where some of this places are, what really surprises me is that no-one mentioned that place Magical Touch in Old Bridge Rd., PWC. they advertise heavily on CL and is one of the worst places i've seen in a long time!
The place smells like cooking all the time, (and I dont mind Chinese food) and the average age is probably 50, I bet they are all AARP members!
The place in Rt. 1, by Occoquan rd. is a bit better but not the young pretty ones I crave.
My all time fav. suddently closed, and I'm like starting to get desperate, my Yellow fever getting out of control.
All I have for now, need to bury my worm this week, any suggestions?, I'll report back
It had been a long time since I was with a woman, so I stopped by the door place. Drew Coco and here's her stats:
breasts: small, b/c cup, unenhanced (thank god)
age: circa 40
face: (given her likely age) 7.5
body: (with the above proviso) 8.0
Said that I had seen Kay (altho I had not); the TS was just alright. Not quite enough cleansing of mianus and the pole. So I started thinking "well, this may suck".
Upon returning to the room, a massage begand and, again, I would say that it was mediocre but she was trying. Then, things improved as she rubbed her body against mine and began speaking to minaus though I had her stop that cuz that's not my thang. .
Proceeded to stroke my pole along with DATY and I gotta say this was the longest and most satisfying one I have had in a while. The landscape was beautiful and showed little wear and tear while the sounds emenating from above were not overdone (as sometimes occurs) and pleasing. If DATY is your thing, Coco like it and she shows it with muscle clamping and releasing on any digital exploration mmmmm
Also appreciated her tongue extension in various areas
Proceeded to CBBJ which was ok but technique not the best and I usually don't get into CBBJ unless it's extremely skillfully done but, again, she was at least trying
By this time, nevertheless, I was close to exploding so she saddled up and gently rode that horse. And I mean gently with feeling and sensuousness. Until well, you know
Also, she's very nice, no rushing whatsoever
Here's the scoreboard gents:
TS: 6
Massagi: 6
CBBJ: 7
DATY: 8.5
CG: 8.5
I'd return
Overall: 8
Why is there such a lack of privacy for these girls/owners, whatever?
It's kind of disturbing that these girls are unable to separate their professional and personal lives due to people posting everything about them, whether it be their whereabouts, their sentencings, etc.
How would we johns feel if our personal information was constantly posted to a site dedicated to the sex industry?
"Yeah, this guy, who frequents Supra and Gold, is named blah blah and he's married to blah blah and he works at blah blah and he lives in blah blah"
I'd love to see what the reactions would be if somebody posted the personal information of Seven Eleven and Ian.
[QUOTE=Rejected Monke][Color=Green]Why is there such a lack of privacy for these girls/owners, whatever?... How would we johns feel if our personal information was constantly posted to a site dedicated to the sex industry?... "[I]Yeah, this guy, who frequents Supra and Gold, is named blah blah and he's married to blah blah and he works at blah blah and he lives in blah blah[/I]"[/Color][/QUOTE]What makes you think they [B]DON'T[/B] have their own form of information exchange on the 'Net? It's easy enough to use credit card or license plate info to get some of that. And, it's also easy enough to hire a PI to follow a customer as he departs. (Have you ever looked behind yourself as you walked to your car or drove away?)
Something to consider, perhaps.
HeyDB, I might as well point this out before anyone else flames the hell out of you... No one mentioned MT or the places in PWC because that is VA and this is the DC board. Try looking in VA, NOVA. You will find these places there.
AS for finding the places in DC, I am a VA guy and I RTFF'd about 8 pages back and found a wealth of info. Once I establish some credentials I might find some of the more cryptic spots mentioned but I am keeping busy for now!!
Good luck.
[QUOTE=Dune Buggy]Newbie here! have been reading posts for a few days now, still trying to figure out where some of this places are, what really surprises me is that no-one mentioned that place Magical Touch in Old Bridge Rd., PWC. they advertise heavily on CL and is one of the worst places i've seen in a long time!
The place smells like cooking all the time, (and I dont mind Chinese food) and the average age is probably 50, I bet they are all AARP members!
The place in Rt. 1, by Occoquan rd. is a bit better but not the young pretty ones I crave.
My all time fav. suddently closed, and I'm like starting to get desperate, my Yellow fever getting out of control.
All I have for now, need to bury my worm this week, any suggestions?, I'll report back[/QUOTE]
Monke,
First, touché! Second, I am surprised that you even raised such an unintelligible point. In the game of life, we must often live with the consequences of our choices.
It would be utterly horrible if someone divulge my identity and my spa activities. My career would certainly be over, not to mention the bad publicity for my boss. His public career would certainly be over as well. Although I don't know Seven Eleven's personal circumstances, I imaging it would be as equally damaging.
However if I am forewarned with such consequences, I would certainly rethink my approach to achieve sexual satisfaction. I would certainly have sex with my beautiful wife a lot more or have left overs from my boss's encounters. For example, the fear of being entangled with LE have successfully persuaded me from patronizing NOVA locations.
Nonetheless, it is absolutely imperative that we do not allow ourselves to think that we are in someway damaging their lives. Regardless of how insensitive it may sounds, these ladies have chosen to go down this road for variety of reasons, and like public figures or celebrities, they're in it for different reasons. Believe me when I say, they could careless of the delusional accounts on this and other forum as some of the accounts on this forum makes for terrific fiction.
Yes, we can certainly withhold certain information about the ladies and spa owners. Like celebrities, all they need to do is remove themselves from the spotlight. However, do you really think that one Annie is the same as another Annie, although they both work at the same location at different times? That's why they all have the colorful names we love so much.
In the end, who can really separate the facts from fictions? That is, who can, without doubt, provide verifiable information about these individuals (except USA Government). It's all rumors and hearsay, unless it inked on the pages of a major news publication.
Ian
[QUOTE=Rejected Monke]Why is there such a lack of privacy for these girls/owners, whatever?
It's kind of disturbing that these girls are unable to separate their professional and personal lives due to people posting everything about them, whether it be their whereabouts, their sentencings, etc.
How would we johns feel if our personal information was constantly posted to a site dedicated to the sex industry?
"Yeah, this guy, who frequents Supra and Gold, is named blah blah and he's married to blah blah and he works at blah blah and he lives in blah blah"
I'd love to see what the reactions would be if somebody posted the personal information of Seven Eleven and Ian.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Roamin Roman]What makes you think they [B]DON'T[/B] have their own form of information exchange on the 'Net? It's easy enough to use credit card or license plate info to get some of that. And, it's also easy enough to hire a PI to follow a customer as he departs. (Have you ever looked behind yourself as you walked to your car or drove away?)
Something to consider, perhaps.
[B][Color=DarkBlue][Size=4]R::R[/Size][/Color][/B][/QUOTE]
While it's possible, I really doubt most of us have to really worry about any of these events occurring from a visit to the massage parlor.
[quote=Ian Dokkaebi]
Monke,
First, touché! Second, I am surprised that you even raised such an unintelligible point. In the game of life, we must often live with the consequences of our choices.
It would be utterly horrible if someone divulge my identity and my spa activities. My career would certainly be over, not to mention the bad publicity for my boss. His public career would certainly be over as well. Although I don't know Seven Eleven's personal circumstances, I imaging it would be as equally damaging.
However if I am forewarned with such consequences, I would certainly rethink my approach to achieve sexual satisfaction. I would certainly have sex with my beautiful wife a lot more or have left overs from my boss's encounters. For example, the fear of being entangled with LE have successfully persuaded me from patronizing NOVA locations.
Nonetheless, it is absolutely imperative that we do not allow ourselves to think that we are in someway damaging their lives.
[/quote]
I hope you aren't saying that just because these girls work in such establishments that their PERSONAL lives (i.e. what they do outside of the workplace) need to be posted on this forum?
Despite your denial, yes, it is considered damaging someone's life if you make their life difficult. Throwing accusations around can be considered slander.
And how exactly is working at a massage parlor an act of putting their personal lives in the spotlight? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. What they do on the job should be put in the spotlight. You, of all people, should know that.
Maybe Kimchi should follow through with his suggestion and post your picture so we can have great conversation about it, while at the same time you can personally be linked to this site forever. Wouldn't that be ironic. After all the attention-starved posts you've submitted to this forum, you'd finally be in the spotlight yourself.
2nd the motion.
[QUOTE=Rejected Monke] Maybe Kimchi should follow through with his suggestion and post your picture so we can have great conversation about it, while at the same time you can personally be linked to this site forever. Wouldn't that be ironic. After all the attention-starved posts you've submitted to this forum, you'd finally be in the spotlight yourself.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ian Dokkaebi]In the end, who can really separate the facts from fictions? That is, who can, without doubt, provide verifiable information about these individuals (except USA Government). It's all rumors and hearsay, unless it inked on the pages of a major news publication.[/QUOTE]
In my experience, discretion and privacy go hand in hand. You can't have one without the other.
Please tell me that you don't believe everything they write in the papers...just because it's put in print doesn't make it true.
Monke,
I thought the indoctrination period has since passed. Nonetheless, I must, once again, draw my dusty sword and stand guard. Did I forget to mention that I love debates? Only through passionate debate, we can discover who we really are.
[QUOTE=Rejected Monke] I hope you aren't saying that just because these girls work in such establishments that their PERSONAL lives (i.e. what they do outside of the workplace) need to be posted on this forum? [/QUOTE]
As mongers, we all know the rules. Get caught, go to jail and suffer the negative publicity. But as mongers, we must hold ourselves to higher ethical guidelines. Such moral boundaries would prevent us from revealing a working girl's true identity, if we are privileged to learn it at first. At least that's true in my case, as hell will need to freeze over first, before I will reveal a single name or phone number.
However, when I am sitting in an 8’x10’ interrogation room below the swinging overhead lights, I will use my knowledge of this industry and its participants to my advantage. What can I say; self preservation supersedes all other needs.
Will you, or anyone for that matter, be willing to provide credible intelligence on any single individual and her activities outside of work, including her real name? Would you really want to? I don’t see any benefits in doing so, and the content of this forum is, in the end, fiction at its best.
Despite how these ladies have wronged us in the past, I firmly believe that we would not stoop to such level.
Only a small, extremely limited, portion of this forum can identify a working girl outside her professional environment. From the eccentric names they use to the excessive make up they wear, all are effectively used to mask their true identity and offers the protective blanket of deniability. Although I have seen one in the past who kept in contact with all her regulars, that’s an isolated case.
If you were involved with a working girl, how would you bring up such topic? "Hey, honey. I heard your friend Kay swallows," or "I heard she is married to so and so. Don't they live in so and so?" I think we are much more refined than that. How would your special someone respond? I believe you risk having argument, of even ending your relationship, for allowing such words to sputter from your mouth.
[QUOTE]Despite your denial, yes, it is considered damaging someone's life if you make their life difficult. Throwing accusations around can be considered slander. [/QUOTE]
Allow me to refresh your memory on tort law: Defamation is the issuance of a false statement about another person, which causes that person to suffer harm. Slander involves the making of defamatory statements by a transitory representation. Libel involves the making of defamatory statements in a printed medium.
In other words, if false statements are made about a working girl, which has in someway affected her ability to pursue her individual sense of happiness, then it’s slander. Based on this definition and if we hold their working names to be their only identifying attribute, who, on this board, think they possess such power? I certainly don't. I would argue further that these ladies would have some sense of exultation from the virtual attention we give them.
For illustrative purposes, if one were to fabricate the following statement "[insert working name] is indeed [insert real name] currently residing at [insert location] and married to [insert real husband name]. She suffers from [insert incurable disease]." Consequently, her husband divorces her because he checks this forum. That, my esteem critic, would constitute as slander.
Under the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, as set forth by the U.S. Supreme Court in the 1964 Case, New York Times v Sullivan, where a public figure attempts to bring an action for defamation, the public figure must prove an additional element: That the statement was made with "actual malice," or the intent to harm. Who here nurtures such intent? I certainly don’t, for I want this industry to grow (better selections for us all).
[QUOTE] And how exactly is working at a massage parlor an act of putting their personal lives in the spotlight? That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. What they do on the job should be put in the spotlight. You, of all people, should know that. [/QUOTE]
Celebrities or famous individuals are elevated for variety of reasons. In other words, these renown individuals are the products of societal admiration often caused by their talents, attractiveness, wealth, etc. My comments regarding this point may be dumb; however, it does not hold a light to your feebleminded retort.
Let’s see, how exactly working at a massage parlor constitutes as notoriety? Simply scroll through the pages of this forum; which girl gives the best BJ, which girl likes DATY, which one takes you to Greek, and which one sticks her finger up your ass. It’s all there. Although these individuals are not in the societal spotlight, they are in our spotlight as we often reminisce our “All Time Favorites,” and the things they did to us or allow us to do to them.
Like Michael Vick, these girls are in the entertainment business. Based on your argument, you must not know of Vick’s current scandal. After all, he is a just football player. How exactly is playing football an act of putting his personal life in the spotlight? So what if he kills dog for fun; that’s his business, and it should not concern us. If the rest of the world shares your mindset, then the need to surpass our own limitations to rise to greatness would simply disappear. What will the gifted do with their god-given talents, and what will the world do without them?
Being famous, whether for giving the best head or throwing the most complete passes, one accepts the responsibilities and consequences of prominence, and the most pivotal consequence of all is the constant struggle to live under the glaring spotlight.
[QUOTE] Maybe Kimchi should follow through with his suggestion and post your picture so we can have great conversation about it, while at the same time you can personally be linked to this site forever. Wouldn't that be ironic[?] After all the attention-starved posts you've submitted to this forum, you'd finally be in the spotlight yourself.[/QUOTE]
Perhaps you’ve forgotten, Kimchi said he will post my picture in the Spas, as no one here knows who I am. However, if my picture were to be placed here, then it’s just a consequence of the choices I’ve made. I have no one else to blame but me.
Do you really think that such immoral and unethical behavior will be tolerated (not to mention that it would violate Mr. Jackson's guidelines)? If we resort to such cowardly acts, then the reputations and identities of all who pay for services at AMP will be at risk. This means that we all must be prepared to stop patronizing the AMPs, if we choose to cross each other.
Instead, we, as a group, should mourn when a fellow monger is caught, give them advice, and guide them through their legal troubles. Some of you, A John for example, can certainly elaborate on this point. Think of it as monger’s unspoken etiquette.
You, of all people, should know that money brings an unlimited supply of resources, regardless of legality. You would be amazed to know what’s out there for the choosing. Unfortunately, I don’t have much faith in PIs. The only thing that separates us from them is access to LexisNexis.
My words are, indeed, linked to this site forever. However, I alone am the guardian of that fact and it will die with me.
The contents of my posts indicate a strong sense of passion and engagement in my interests, far from “attention-starved,” as you’ve categorized them to be. Nonetheless, I’ve addressed this point in the past and will not repeat myself. Feel free to discover them at your own leisure.
I am not a stranger to being under the spotlight. Consequently, I don’t like it. It is really hot when the lights shine on you. The need to constantly maintain a thick and artificial decorum is simply unbearable.
Like many of you, I’m lucky in that I have some inside knowledge of this subculture. I have in the past shared them with this board; however, I have since changed my views on that.
It dawn on me recently during another debate with an individual in this industry, one little piece of information fallen into the wrong hands could have catastrophic consequences to this volatile hobby. Remember Black Wednesday, that’s the consequence of one individual confiding in who he thought, was a friend.
In the past couple of weeks, I have withheld information including all the encounters I was privileged to, the area’s closings, and management changes as I venture to AMPs at least twice a week.
The board’s collective knowledge far exceeds mine in all regards, and anything that I may contribute is simply re-stating the facts. I, like all who contributed to this board, have yet to put any working girl's identity at risk.
However, I am very intrigued to ascertain your true motivations for these attacks on my pieces. Perhaps, I have spoken ill about your special someone or are you that naive to believe that revealing an alias might prevent her from living her life to the fullest?
Ian
PS: Are you personally affected by the people who testified? How did you know I wasn't? Just because I don't come crying to the board doesn't mean I was personally affected by the events that lead to Black Wednesday.
PPS: Sorry for the length, I am somewhat thorough.
[QUOTE=Jake Jj 1492]In my experience, discretion and privacy go hand in hand. You can't have one without the other.
Please tell me that you don't believe everything they write in the papers...just because it's put in print doesn't make it true.[/QUOTE]
You're right, discretion goes hand in hand with privacy. Nonetheless the level of discretion varies from one person to the next. I thought my posts were appropriately censored. It appears that wasn't the overall consensus.
I don't believe a single news source; I would formulate my own conclusions after reviewing several news sources. However, with the news industry being overrun by conglomerates, it's very difficult to distinguish hidden agendas from real news.
On the other hand, when I see the headline "8 People Arrested for Prostitution in a Local Massage Parlor, " I certainly believe it as the need to fabricate such information yields no added value (maybe for the editor's wicked satisfaction).
Ian
I have been thinking about this for some time, and I wonder if my fellow mongers have an opinion. It seems like a silly thing, which is why I haven't raised it before. Perhaps that will keep the flames to a minimum.
In an AMP, I really enjoy the HJ more than the FS. I like a good bbbj too, but FS just doesn't do it for me as much. Well, then you might say, "you're in luck, because HJ is cheaper". But here's the discussion point. Along with the HJ, I like the full attention, body to body, mouth, other parts, etc. So I want the full treatment, but I am pretty happy if she finishes it manually.
When I have just paid the HJ price, I have often gotten very mediocre, disinterested service, particularly in recent years. it seems like 5 years ago, the HJ was a perfectly acceptable conclusion.
Yes, I can ask her to do it that way, and I have, but it always seems like a strange request and she doesn't understand it.
Maybe I don't even have a question here, but I wonder if other mongers have any similar experience with this issue and if there is a good approach that you could share.
Thanks much.
B.
[QUOTE=Bseeks]When I have just paid the HJ price, I have often gotten very mediocre, disinterested service, particularly in recent years. it seems like 5 years ago, the HJ was a perfectly acceptable conclusion.
B.[/QUOTE]I prefer f/s,but if I wanted a HJ with a personal touch(no pun intended) I'd offer more than just a HJ donation.
[QUOTE=Bseeks]I have been thinking about this for some time, and I wonder if my fellow mongers have an opinion. It seems like a silly thing, which is why I haven't raised it before. Perhaps that will keep the flames to a minimum.
In an AMP, I really enjoy the HJ more than the FS. I like a good bbbj too, but FS just doesn't do it for me as much. Well, then you might say, "you're in luck, because HJ is cheaper". But here's the discussion point. Along with the HJ, I like the full attention, body to body, mouth, other parts, etc. So I want the full treatment, but I am pretty happy if she finishes it manually.
When I have just paid the HJ price, I have often gotten very mediocre, disinterested service, particularly in recent years. it seems like 5 years ago, the HJ was a perfectly acceptable conclusion.
Yes, I can ask her to do it that way, and I have, but it always seems like a strange request and she doesn't understand it.
Maybe I don't even have a question here, but I wonder if other mongers have any similar experience with this issue and if there is a good approach that you could share.
Thanks much.
B.[/QUOTE]I share many of your views and appreciate your post [though perhaps it should be on another board; since the ongoing flame war isn't though, then no reason why this should, I guess].
However, my strong sense is that we. As mongers and as part of the general male population. Are in a distinct minority. [aside: one adult website I belong too sometimes has HJ videos on. Which I really like. But most of the site's members (no pun. They have a comments section) think it's almost gay to watch them and basically seem to say (a) "why would I want to watch what I can do myself" or (be) "why would I want to watch what I had to settle for in HS? ".
Like you, I, too, appreciate a well-performed and intimate handjob with extras (including kissing) and other things as you describe. IMHO, this can be extremely erotic, many times even more so than standard fare. She's has to concentrate on you. She can't just close her eyes and perform (or let you perform on her). She can lay next to you and get really close. Third, when it's popping time. You (and her) get to see the whole show. Now, don't get me wrong, there's a place for BJs and everything else. It's not like I don't do that. But the standard HJ has stood its test in time since high school.
When I began mongering in fact, this is what I almost always got. For a variety of reasons including not knowing that there were other menu items. I think you're right that that this practice has changed some over the last years.
I have also experienced a disinclination by some. But not most. Girls to giving HJs. Mostly, its an economic issue, but also it requires a level of intimacy sometimes that they just don't want to engage in.
My. 02 and I'm glad to have a fellow traveler!
[QUOTE=Jet Ranger]The Lucky you saw sounds a lot like a girl that used to work at Young Spa in Tysons Corner several few years ago. Was she short?[/QUOTE]No, she was slightly taller than average.
Papasan
B, the HJ (and BBBJ) does feel better sometimes because you do not have to wear a cover. I have had some instances where I have gone for the second helping, but needed the HJ to finish. If the HJ is the way you like to finish, just go with the FS (with all the trimmings) and then when your ready, take off the cover and tell her to finish you with HJ. I have never run into anyone who did not like finishing me off with a HJ. My two cents. Later, BT3
I was getting tired of Cece and her "tighly closed legs preventing me from long stoking it" (to steal an excellent quote from Getrich), so today I ventured down the street.
I asked mamsan for the line up (which I usually do when I have not been there in a while), but only one girl free, Tina. Massage first due to shower occupied. Massage was pretty good. TS was above average, she stoked me a long time with both hands. Back to the room when she asked what I wanted. Then she left to get her tools. I left the standard tip on the table. She returned and started a light massage. On the flip, she gave HJ and then CBJ. Then we switched for some DATY. Then the usual sequence of standing mish, Dog, and CG to finish. She was very nice, pretty good with conversation (and understanding), kept asking if I was ok and if I liked what she was doing. A little belly keeps me from recommending a repeat, but would go back if nothing better pops up in a quest for a new find.
Later, BT3.
[QUOTE=BigTime3]I was getting tired of Cece and her "tighly closed legs preventing me from long stoking it" (to steal an excellent quote from Getrich), so today I ventured down the street.[/QUOTE]
I couldn't have described it better. Glad I'm not the only one...