General Reports

[QUOTE=Irish Princess; 1221896]Hey Guys!

Yes it is true, I am no longer at ERS. I am busy trying out a new endeavor. I have been putting my business plans on the back burner for quite some time because as everyone knows when you work a full time job plus extra hours there is no time to do anything else. Even more so if you have a family.

I hope that you all do not forget me, as I will not forget you. I have developed some real friendships during my time at ERS with some of you fellows that was more than a rub and tug. I have come to know who each of you were as human beings. I have listened to you when no one would and let you say what you needed to say knowing I would never tell a soul.

I learned your likes and dislikes better than your girlfriend or spouse. And I shared some of my own life with you also. I learned your name and looked forward to seeing the man behind it when an appointment was made thinking of the person first and not as the dollars you would bring.

I hope that you have many more pleasant experiences at ERS but on a rather selfish note, I hope that when you think of me, the thought will always bring a naughty smile.

D. [/QUOTE]We only met once and you treated me like a king! Thank you and good luck Diana.

Had lunch with ERS alumnus Pamela and her daughter last week and she filled me in on what had been happening there in my three-year absence from Belvidere. Said Kathy's son now manages the place and (this was revealed on USASG earlier in the month) that Dawn had moved from behind the desk to working the rooms. I still can't believe that about Dawn. Long experience has shown me that sons and daughters of long-time managers and owners usually don't do a good job in sustaining the success of the business. I like Stud's description of ERS as almost having an office-like atmophere; that is so true.

[QUOTE=Stud Muffin314;1221715]ERS! I've been to both, ERS is clean, and 'professional' in an office sort of way. CLV is a bit more creepy, dark, dingy, with women who seem to be my mom's age. Cheaper, though.[/QUOTE]

I recently had my first visit to CLV, and a couple of weeks before that I had my first visit to ERS- what a couple of hidden gems.

Jessica is the name of the lady I saw at ERS- she was at the desk and greeted me- when she mentioned I could pick my MT, I asked her for a reccomendation and she recommended herself.

She explained the proceedure to me in the room, and proceeded to give me a fantastic and unrushed session. She gave a good massage, and it ended quite nicely. She did a very good job of letting me know what to expect with my visits there.

Over at CLV, I met Jennah. She took me in to the room I got ready, and she started with a little chatter. She asked if I had ever been there before and I said no- I had just recently tried ERS and wanted to try CLV out too.

I don't know if she took that as a challenge, or if she is always this good, but she gave me a FANTASTIC unrushed massage, then on the flip took her sweet time on finishing the massage. She was playful and teasing and took more time and was more relaxed and comfortable then any other MT I have ever been to.

She projected a feeling that she had all day to spend taking care of things and made sure the journey was just as good as the destination. I was quite impressed with that.

So- I cannot wait for more comparisons. I intend on visiting both agian. And again. And again.

Had session with Liz last Monday. Not much more that I can say that hasn't been said. Liz gave me a wonderful, non-rushed time. She definetly got my attention in the jacquizi. On the table she used a combination of firm deep massage and mixed in some teasing light touches. After the flip she definitely knew how to handle things and kept me on edge for a very pleasurable time before letting me go. Worth a repeat but would like to try her sister next time just for variety.

RCH

Nice to read good things about BOTH places in Belvidere. That means both are doing their jobs. Is Tina still at ERS?

[QUOTE=RockCountyHard; 1228829]Had session with Liz last Monday. Not much more that I can say that hasn't been said. Liz gave me a wonderful, non-rushed time. She definetly got my attention in the jacquizi. On the table she used a combination of firm deep massage and mixed in some teasing light touches. After the flip she definitely knew how to handle things and kept me on edge for a very pleasurable time before letting me go. Worth a repeat but would like to try her sister next time just for variety.

RCH[/QUOTE]

I know not the best spot for posting. Anyone been to the Midwest fantasy club gang bang parties? Seems to good to be true!

It was in Belvidere (first at CLV and then ERS) that I came up with what I thought was a new practice that enhanced my sessions, first with Jeannette and then Vicky. What a provider seems to like is access. So, I thought, why don't I make more of myself accessible prior to the flip? That sounds easy, I thought. So what I did was point my package towards my knees instead of my navel. Jeannette was my test case. She said no one had ever done that on the table. She grazed her hands over that region time and again during the pre-flip period. And it was very nice. And she seemed to like it, so we made it a part of all of our subsequent sessions. And, about a month later, I decided to lift my hips (providing even more access) while I was still on my belly. Jeannette liked that even more. She formed a cylindrical shape with her two hands that I could thrust into. That was wonderful. When Jeannette left CLV, I continued the practice with Vicky at ERS. And she loved it as much. Guys, a word to the wise: Access. It'll make the entire session more enjoyable from start to "finish." The abbreviation? PFL, for Pre-Flip Lift.

[QUOTE=Printer 3210;1231819]I know not the best spot for posting. Anyone been to the Midwest fantasy club gang bang parties? Seems to good to be true![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Printer 3210;1231819]I know not the best spot for posting. Anyone been to the Midwest fantasy club gang bang parties? Seems to good to be true![/QUOTE]I have been to two of their parties. You get a dinner first. It is chicken corn clowslaw. Also, desert. It's seems to be all BBWs. I haven't been to a party in a while. But, if you don't like BBW, this ain't the place.

There is 30 guys and 5 lady's. That is the ratio at each party. You will all be on 4 mattresses which are pushed together on the floor. That is the area you play in. You are not aloud to play on the chairs or couches. It is a bit crowed

[QUOTE=Printer 3210;1231819]I know not the best spot for posting. Anyone been to the Midwest fantasy club gang bang parties? Seems to good to be true![/QUOTE]Chi Monger said it. I've seen some of the pictures from places that have those sessions. BBWs and a lot of guys. Scared the he'll out of me!

But to each his own

I have heard a great deal about Dawn at ERS. Can anyone tell me about her sessions?

As long as I knew Dawn as the receptionist (several years) at ERS, I always thought she had potential. Even after wearing braces (even at her age) she still had great quality about her. Like Blonde Guy, I'm curious to know how this eternal Cubs fan performs in the jacuzzi and the rooms.

[QUOTE=Blonde Guy2;1236461]I have heard a great deal about Dawn at ERS. Can anyone tell me about her sessions?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Blonde Guy2;1236461]I have heard a great deal about Dawn at ERS. Can anyone tell me about her sessions?[/QUOTE]I had a session with her. See my review, I thought her name was Donna. Bottom line she was second best to Diana IMHO good but not great jacuzzi skills, good massage tech. And very good finishing skills. I would recommend.

[QUOTE=Blonde Guy2;1236461]I have heard a great deal about Dawn at ERS. Can anyone tell me about her sessions?[/QUOTE]Can anybody tell me if Dawn at ERS is the same Dawn that use to be at the lingerie boutiques in Rockford?

No, I knew both Dawns. Quite a difference between the two. Dawn who was at CL was last reported residing in Chicago.

[QUOTE=Rock Bustr;1237208]Can anybody tell me if Dawn at ERS is the same Dawn that use to be at the lingerie boutiques in Rockford?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rock Bustr;1237208]Can anybody tell me if Dawn at ERS is the same Dawn that use to be at the lingerie boutiques in Rockford?[/QUOTE]I don't think so. The Dawn they are referring to has worked the front desk at ERS for years and only recently started doing sessions.

OK, I have been reading this board for almost a year, I have posted a few times, but now I want to know where I should go for my first Belvidere experience:

ERS or SLV? Send me PM's if you like, I want to get an idea as to what they are really like and which to sample first on my upcoming road trip to Madison.

[QUOTE=Travelin Man3; 1240385]OK, I have been reading this board for almost a year, I have posted a few times, but now I want to know where I should go for my first Belvidere experience:

ERS or SLV? Send me PM's if you like, I want to get an idea as to what they are really like and which to sample first on my upcoming road trip to Madison.[/QUOTE]I do not have current experience with CLV, having busted my R & T cherry there some 25 years ago (from what I read some of those same ladies are there). I visited ERS many times from 2004 to 2008 and from what I read here and my experiences at ERS I would recommend them for the first venture to Belvidere. I don't get work out that way anymore and really miss ERS. From what I have read here about CLV lately you will have better selection at ERS (unless you make an appt from references here, which is a good idea) and have cleaner, better lit rooms.

Have fun and let us know which one you picked and what kind of time you had.

[QUOTE=Travelin Man3; 1240385]OK, I have been reading this board for almost a year, I have posted a few times, but now I want to know where I should go for my first Belvidere experience:

ERS or SLV? Send me PM's if you like, I want to get an idea as to what they are really like and which to sample first on my upcoming road trip to Madison.[/QUOTE]ERS! Rocket Dork

[QUOTE=Rocket Dork;1240521]ERS! Rocket Dork[/QUOTE]Agreed again. ERS is much easier on a newb. The girls at ERS don't negotiate a tip for services, and won't break any of their rules, but this makes it easier to get what you want. tip what you like in the end, just don't go overboard and ruin it for the rest of us. Little hint, when the girl remarks that you look comfortable all naked and stuff help her get comfortable also.

For a first-timer as well as a veteran, a trip to ERS will never result in a complaint. Visited there for years, going back to the early 80s. Wonderful, wonderful memories. Brandy and then Vicki provided wonderful incentives for making a trip to Belvidere, where an aunt and uncle happened to reside. More than once Vick and I spent two hours. One hour just was not enough.

[QUOTE=Xxofe;1240864]Agreed again. ERS is much easier on a newb. The girls at ERS don't negotiate a tip for services, and won't break any of their rules, but this makes it easier to get what you want. tip what you like in the end, just don't go overboard and ruin it for the rest of us. Little hint, when the girl remarks that you look comfortable all naked and stuff help her get comfortable also.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RandyMucho;1240928]For a first-timer as well as a veteran, a trip to ERS will never result in a complaint. Visited there for years, going back to the early 80s. Wonderful, wonderful memories. Brandy and then Vicki provided wonderful incentives for making a trip to Belvidere, where an aunt and uncle happened to reside. More than once Vick and I spent two hours. One hour just was not enough.[/QUOTE]Now I have been to both ERS and C'est La Vie. Here it is plain and simple guys. DO NOT GO TO C'est La Vie EVER!

Sorry for the caps there; but if it helps anyone here ever considering to go there, just don't.

So I go in and there is this older lady at the front desk and she says the girls can't talk to you until you go to one back rooms.

So I pick Diana. As soon as I see her get up off that couch, I knew it was going to suck bad. You could tell by her actions.

So in the room and making small talk and all, she is making these grunt sounds like yeah whatever. No smiling, no talking back. Kept looking at the time.

The massage sucked really bad. They use a Vitamin E lotion and sometimes she does't even have any on. No sensuality to the massage what so ever.

The flip: well, first time in my life I wasn't able to let the stress out. She even asked if I wanted to do some mysefl. Are you kidding me?

Then she said I was running out of time. She was leaning heavily on me while at it and that hurt. No enthusiasm. So I was like, hey thanks for trying and ended the session. Listen, the place is not as clean like ERS. The lighting sucks bad, the girls are not the most attractive at all.

Left a little tip as to not totally upset her; but never again.

So if you go to ERS, you will love it. They are nice, friendly, play within he rules and you feel great and you will want to go back. Very nice girls and attractive at ERS.

Stay away from CLV. Don't even be curious. When you walked into CLV, you got this sense of how depressing it was in there. Seriously.

Sorry for ranting on here, but thought it might help some. Have a good weekend all.

[QUOTE=Mc Luvin; 1241913]Now I have been to both ERS and C'est La Vie. Here it is plain and simple guys. DO NOT GO TO C'est La Vie EVER!

Sorry for the caps there; but if it helps anyone here ever considering to go there, just don't.

So I go in and there is this older lady at the front desk and she says the girls can't talk to you until you go to one back rooms.

So I pick Diana. As soon as I see her get up off that couch, I knew it was going to suck bad. You could tell by her actions.

So in the room and making small talk and all, she is making these grunt sounds like yeah whatever. No smiling, no talking back. Kept looking at the time.

The massage sucked really bad. They use a Vitamin E lotion and sometimes she does't even have any on. No sensuality to the massage what so ever.

The flip: well, first time in my life I wasn't able to let the stress out. She even asked if I wanted to do some mysefl. Are you kidding me?

Then she said I was running out of time. She was leaning heavily on me while at it and that hurt. No enthusiasm. So I was like, hey thanks for trying and ended the session. Listen, the place is not as clean like ERS. The lighting sucks bad, the girls are not the most attractive at all.

Left a little tip as to not totally upset her; but never again.

So if you go to ERS, you will love it. They are nice, friendly, play within he rules and you feel great and you will want to go back. Very nice girls and attractive at ERS.

Stay away from CLV. Don't even be curious. When you walked into CLV, you got this sense of how depressing it was in there. Seriously.

Sorry for ranting on here, but thought it might help some. Have a good weekend all.[/QUOTE]I've been to ERS my fair share but never to CLV simply based on some of the great intel sharing here. Just to get this straight, they wouldn't let you see your provider before paying and going to the room, and you didn't immediately tell them to have a nice day and walk out? I haven't been in the hobby for too long but that is something I would never do. Just like every other transaction in life, don't buy something sight unseen. It's not like there aren't plenty of other options out there.

Just want to make things clear. The Diana McLuvin is talking about is not the Diana from ERS who isn't working there anymore. Don't want my reputation ruined even though I no longer work there.

[QUOTE=Playhard09;1242209]I've been to ERS my fair share but never to CLV simply based on some of the great intel sharing here. Just to get this straight, they wouldn't let you see your provider before paying and going to the room, and you didn't immediately tell them to have a nice day and walk out? I haven't been in the hobby for too long but that is something I would never do. Just like every other transaction in life, don't buy something sight unseen. It's not like there aren't plenty of other options out there.[/QUOTE]No, sorry. I may have not been so clear before. You could see the gilrs up front and the lady at the desk tells you their name and all, but if you ask a question to the girls or say something nice to them, the lady at the desk reminds you on the spot;"the girls are not allowed to talk to you here", only in the room". Talk about a turn-off right away. I should have walked out then.

But, now I know. And seriously, I could tell and got a sense of none of those girls being into their job. If compared to ERS, you would choose ERS.

They are professional at ERS, beautiful, friendly, clean, play within the rules. Always and you leave their feeling good; mind and body relaxed.

If you're thinking of stepping into CLV- Don't Ever. Waste of time and money. Just trying to help incase you're on the border-line thinking about it.

Have a great week all.

It's the CLV atmosphere you encounter as you enter the front door: certainly not inviting, enough to raise doubt in your mind whether or not you want to turn around and walk out. A lot of places many years ago were a lot like CLV. But if you glommed on to a good provider your first visit, you were willing to put up with a lot of crap in your followup sessions. Nice to read all of the good things posted about ERS.

[QUOTE=Mc Luvin; 1242640]No, sorry. I may have not been so clear before. You could see the gilrs up front and the lady at the desk tells you their name and all, but if you ask a question to the girls or say something nice to them, the lady at the desk reminds you on the spot;"the girls are not allowed to talk to you here", only in the room". Talk about a turn-off right away. I should have walked out then.

But, now I know. And seriously, I could tell and got a sense of none of those girls being into their job. If compared to ERS, you would choose ERS.

They are professional at ERS, beautiful, friendly, clean, play within the rules. Always and you leave their feeling good; mind and body relaxed.

If you're thinking of stepping into CLV- Don't Ever. Waste of time and money. Just trying to help incase you're on the border-line thinking about it.

Have a great week all.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RandyMucho;1243436]It's the CLV atmosphere you encounter as you enter the front door: certainly not inviting, enough to raise doubt in your mind whether or not you want to turn around and walk out. A lot of places many years ago were a lot like CLV. But if you glommed on to a good provider your first visit, you were willing to put up with a lot of crap in your followup sessions. Nice to read all of the good things posted about ERS.[/QUOTE]I've always gone to ERS. The reviews here and elsewhere seemed to have pointed me in that direction. I curious about the jacuzzi too. I was lucky to find a great provider on my second visit and we just hit it off big time. We connected in a way that always had me coming back. We understood each other I guess. Met some other ladies from the fantastic Diana to others who were so-so.

But I decided it was time to check out CLV. Some research here got me the info that I needed. Let me say here that even the old post were very helpful and noobs really need to RTFF.

So in I go and yeah it was different. The desk right by the door is the first thing that you notice. Not as relaxed as ERS. The door fee was $.1 less than ERS. The girls that were there seemed sad except for one girl and I picked her. It was Sophia. She was professional and did what she could to make me feel comfortable. The room had it's own shower and not a shared one. It was set up more like a spa. The massage was good. Massaged her, good. Finished me, good.

Overall no complaints. Would I go again, sure. ERS seems to have a better selection but like you said if you can find the right one it doesn't matter.

If someone was going to Belvidere for the first time I would recommend ERS first. Once they got the hang of things I would send them to CLV. It's good to have choices too as it keeps both places on there toes to satisfy their customers.

I recently called to ask for info. Got Grandma ***** answered phone. I was nice and she really was unpleasant. Thought of making a return trip there but down the street everyone has a nice attitude. Rocket Dork

Receiving a chilly greeting (even over the phone) has been pretty much the rule of thumb at CLV. It gives one the idea these people would never consider enrolling in a Customer Service course. And why would a provider stay in the business for any significant length of time? Why put up with all the aggravation from co-workers and bosses?

[QUOTE=Rocket Dork;1244022]I recently called to ask for info. Got Grandma ***** answered phone. I was nice and she really was unpleasant. Thought of making a return trip there but down the street everyone has a nice attitude. Rocket Dork[/QUOTE]

I have always enjoyed CLV. I enjoy mature women; two of the nicest MILFs I have had the pleasure of meeting are there. Jenna and Nancy.

Have going there on and of for years. There used to be some really hot girls there, but now the selection is not so great. As Turkey John said, if you are ok with a more mature women, I agree with Turkey John on Nancy and Jenna. I remember seeing Nancy when she was only 20 years old. She was really wild. She has calmed down some, but till gives a great session.

[QUOTE=Roy;1244281]Have going there on and of for years. There used to be some really hot girls there, but now the selection is not so great. As Turkey John said, if you are ok with a more mature women, I agree with Turkey John on Nancy and Jenna. I remember seeing Nancy when she was only 20 years old. She was really wild. She has calmed down some, but till gives a great session.[/QUOTE]Hard to beat 'the view'.

[QUOTE=Turkey John;1244161]I have always enjoyed CLV. I enjoy mature women; two of the nicest MILFs I have had the pleasure of meeting are there. Jenna and Nancy.[/QUOTE]I too have been to both. I'm actually 62 so I would probably be considered a dirty, old man (which I most assuredly try to excel in) , but I do love the freedom and the ladies at ERS. To note the difference, my last trip to CLV was with Jennah and she told me that she has been at CLV for 22 years. Do the math. The finish is the same, the only change is the ornamentation and how you get there.

Through the years I have been to both CLV & ERS and seen lots of girls. Over the past year I have been to neither, seeing Sandy most of time: [url]http://rockford.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-number-same-sandy-27/7934168[/url] (She is among the best I have ever had). Sunday I wasn't able to get in touch with Sandy so decided to stop by ERS. Had the chance to see Liz. I will simiply say she gave one of the best massages I have had in years and she knows how to end it well. A flirt, a tease, and a beauty. If you have not seen her, do so.

I stopped in last Thursday and everyone but the "girl in training" was busy. So I helped to train Danielle. She was well versed in the rules. She is young (relatively speaking) and still needs to learn how to tease and massage. That said she is very easy on the eyes. Small up top, but well proportioned with a lovely backside the just fit into the cup of my hand. All in all a positive experience and may have another visit in the future with Danielle to see how her "training" worked out. Stay safe.

[QUOTE=RivasRick; 1248292]Through the years I have been to both CLV & ERS and seen lots of girls. Over the past year I have been to neither, seeing Sandy most of time:

[url]http://rockford.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-number-same-sandy-27/7934168[/url]

(She is among the best I have ever had). Sunday I wasn't able to get in touch with Sandy so decided to stop by ERS. Had the chance to see Liz. I will simiply say she gave one of the best massages I have had in years and she knows how to end it well. A flirt, a tease, and a beauty. If you have not seen her, do so.[/QUOTE]I meant to say that through the years I'm been to both ERS & CLV.

[QUOTE=Rocket Dork;1244022]I recently called to ask for info. Got Grandma ***** answered phone. I was nice and she really was unpleasant. Thought of making a return trip there but down the street everyone has a nice attitude. Rocket Dork[/QUOTE]I had the same experience the last two times I went to CLV. I was told by Ginger that the owners granddaughter was getting divorced. This is why she is so unpleasant. Ginger also said that as long as she has known the Judy she has been a B*tch. Judys being nice is just an act and she is getting senile in her old age. At one time Ginger said she was going to take over the business and run things the right way. I don't see that happening. Judy is still making the call. Been going to CLV for about 30 yrs. I do agree that ERS is more pleasant.

[QUOTE=RivasRick;1248779]I meant to say that through the years I'm been to both ERS & CLV.[/QUOTE]Looks good, so where is her location and what are her rates?

I'd take a nickel for every CLV customer since it opened who has not come back after one session just because of Judy. She really is from the "old, old school" and I think she never understood that she had to change with the times. It's too bad really because CLV has had some nice providers. In this business, to call ERS pleasant is an understatement. For atmosphere, I'd hazard to guess that there's no better place.

[QUOTE=Cumsprayer;1249225]I had the same experience the last two times I went to CLV. I was told by Ginger that the owners granddaughter was getting divorced. This is why she is so unpleasant. Ginger also said that as long as she has known the Judy she has been a B*tch. Judys being nice is just an act and she is getting senile in her old age. At one time Ginger said she was going to take over the business and run things the right way. I don't see that happening. Judy is still making the call. Been going to CLV for about 30 yrs. I do agree that ERS is more pleasant.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RandyMucho;1250061]I'd take a nickel for every CLV customer since it opened who has not come back after one session just because of Judy. She really is from the "old, old school" and I think she never understood that she had to change with the times. It's too bad really because CLV has had some nice providers. In this business, to call ERS pleasant is an understatement. For atmosphere, I'd hazard to guess that there's no better place.[/QUOTE]That is not Sophia, is it? Manamik

[QUOTE=Xxofe;1249233]Looks good, so where is her location and what are her rates?[/QUOTE]Assuming you mean Sandy. She is in Rockford. Here is her link: [url]http://rockford.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-number-same-sandy-27/7934168[/url]