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"Present yourself as a "rich" boyfriend, but NEVER BRING UP MONEY UNTIL AFTER YOU'VE PUT SOMETHING INSIDE HER.

PRO TIP: If she brings up money, act annoyed and disgusted, and make a point of talking about how you don't want a hooker. You're a busy professional with no time for relationships, and you thought she was better than that. ".

OK, those are my two favorite lines. In my case, she did bring up money first. Would have loved your second line here at that time.

I must say I get nervous at the backlash if, after we bang and she has her proverbial hand out, the amount is far less than she wanted. That could get ugly.

I had 2 M&G's yesterday. One is a 43 yo white divorcee who is seriously DTF. She pursued me. Not the best looking but, shit, neither am I. I felt it was required so towards the end, I brought up "the ugly subject. " She scoffed, said she hates that aspect, wouldn't give a number as she felt it made her feel like a pro so we dropped it.

I thought I was supposed to ask. LESSON LEARNED!

The other was an absolutely gorgeous 28 yo black girl. We already did the email exchange about numbers (LESSON LEARNED) and she's fine with my cheap ass number. We plan to get naked.

Thanks again for the wisdom! I copied those two phrases into a Google Doc!

[QUOTE=Tipisil;2755006]I just have to say that is some fantastic advice. Think long term, not short term gain.[/QUOTE]He's quoting some of the same stuff that was said in the LA NP thread years ago. It's not anything revolutionary. If you scroll back some years, a certain member advocated a "hit it and fish again" mentality. Others said that it wasn't the same type of woman and that you have to have a different mindset. The latter's advice was ignored as the former was a "legend" and CL is now a wasteland. Now you have to pay for connecting with women the same way you used to on CL for free.

Ain't life grand?

Now we are getting somewhere. If anyone "ever" takes anything anyone says and thinks that its insulting their intelligence. Then they are on the wrong thread.

This is a place for hard core advice, stupid questions, stories of conquest & glory, and sometime just thinking out loud. Thanks to everyone that contributes to this thread.

Now about those pics.

I've had two friends that were sugar babies. The first one had a day job making about 3 K a month, where she worked with an industry person that bought her an Escalade and paid for her $2 k / month rent. He only wanted to see her about 2 x / week in his Hollywood Hills house where she got to spend the night. She got lots of gifts and he helped her advance in her daytime career by referrals. This allowed her to explore her passions. Like dancing, acting, singing, standup, etc. I always admired her freedom to try new things.

Another lady was a massage therapists. She got an admirer who bought her an MP. Then he gave her 10 K / month. I asked her if this guy was crazy? SERIOUSLY, he didn't want her to quit the MP gig. She fucked lots of guys for a hundred and was highly requested when she worked. The guy had been retired forever, and just sat at home alone (her story). Whatever their arrangement, it made them both mutually happy. I always wondered why she continued to work, but never asked her why.

Today, I hung out with a 27 year old single mom that just scrapes by to live. She is smart, okay looks, and her mom told her to get a sugar daddy. I was at a crossroads of sorts. I didn't want her to be used up and spit out by a hardcore monger, but I also thought, what a good mom. Her mom told her that she deserves a better life. Get a sugar daddy and maybe you can...

I'm starting to think this sugar baby thing is a good deal. My 2016 goal is to get a 20 to 30 year old with money to wine and dine my poor ass. I want to be private jetted around and at her beckon command to fuck her everywhere when she wants. I'll eat out her pussy when desired. My personality and hard cock shall prevail.

Namaste

[QUOTE=Christophe1;2756078]I've had two friends that were sugar babies. The first one had a day job making about 3 K a month, where she worked with an industry person that bought her an Escalade and paid for her $2 k / month rent. He only wanted to see her about 2 x / week in his Hollywood Hills house where she got to spend the night. She got lots of gifts and he helped her advance in her daytime career by referrals. This allowed her to explore her passions. Like dancing, acting, singing, standup, etc. I always admired her freedom to try new things.

Another lady was a massage therapists. She got an admirer who bought her an MP. Then he gave her 10 K / month. I asked her if this guy was crazy? SERIOUSLY, he didn't want her to quit the MP gig. She fucked lots of guys for a hundred and was highly requested when she worked. The guy had been retired forever, and just sat at home alone (her story). Whatever their arrangement, it made them both mutually happy. I always wondered why she continued to work, but never asked her why.

Today, I hung out with a 27 year old single mom that just scrapes by to live. She is smart, okay looks, and her mom told her to get a sugar daddy. I was at a crossroads of sorts. I didn't want her to be used up and spit out by a hardcore monger, but I also thought, what a good mom. Her mom told her that she deserves a better life. Get a sugar daddy and maybe you can...

I'm starting to think this sugar baby thing is a good deal. My 2016 goal is to get a 20 to 30 year old with money to wine and dine my poor ass. I want to be private jetted around and at her beckon command to fuck her everywhere when she wants. I'll eat out her pussy when desired. My personality and hard cock shall prevail.

Namaste[/QUOTE]No doubt they will. The possibilities are endless. I just saw my new dr for my nerve damage problem. An attractive older but slender and obviously hot at one time blonde. I can't mess up my chance to get her to help me. But I couldn't help myself and dropped a few hints. She didn't bat an eye and I didn't see a ring. We have a mutual friend in common so I am going to find out what her marital status is. If she is married I will keep my big mouth shut. If not I am going to wait until after all the medical care I will be getting and then see if I have a chance. I was a sugar boy once. I think I may have posted about it years ago. It got ugly. I did it for like two years. That's all I'll say about it now or ever.

A few years ago I started to buy a custom made wardrobe with the intention of hitting up older divorced women and widowers. Didn't follow through on that one either as I got scared I might not get it up on command.

Those two scenarios are true textbook definition of Sugar daddy. The name of this blog should be titled much differently. I agreed with GMs first reply but second one is just as predatory. Just lying to ladies to get "free to lunch money sex" for unlimited time selling them a dream that can't be bought.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2754532]I don't doubt that as I have read many of his posts. But working on an SD site and blowing through dozens or even hundreds (in my case thousands) of girls doesn't always leave time for the niceties that would assuage or persuade a prospect to do what you want them to do. Especially on a walmart budget. Love you guys. Lets keep the stories and advice flowing.

I know there are a lot of guys that read this thread but do not contribute, as I get a few PM's here and there from them. So chime in guys. There is no requirement for membership except a desire to bang more pussy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Christophe1;2756078]I've had two friends that were sugar babies. The first one had a day job making about 3 K a month, where she worked with an industry person that bought her an Escalade and paid for her $2 k / month rent. He only wanted to see her about 2 x / week in his Hollywood Hills house where she got to spend the night. She got lots of gifts and he helped her advance in her daytime career by referrals. This allowed her to explore her passions. Like dancing, acting, singing, standup, etc. I always admired her freedom to try new things.

Another lady was a massage therapists. She got an admirer who bought her an MP. Then he gave her 10 K / month. I asked her if this guy was crazy? SERIOUSLY, he didn't want her to quit the MP gig. She fucked lots of guys for a hundred and was highly requested when she worked. The guy had been retired forever, and just sat at home alone (her story). Whatever their arrangement, it made them both mutually happy. I always wondered why she continued to work, but never asked her why.

Today, I hung out with a 27 year old single mom that just scrapes by to live. She is smart, okay looks, and her mom told her to get a sugar daddy. I was at a crossroads of sorts. I didn't want her to be used up and spit out by a hardcore monger, but I also thought, what a good mom. Her mom told her that she deserves a better life. Get a sugar daddy and maybe you can...

I'm starting to think this sugar baby thing is a good deal. My 2016 goal is to get a 20 to 30 year old with money to wine and dine my poor ass. I want to be private jetted around and at her beckon command to fuck her everywhere when she wants. I'll eat out her pussy when desired. My personality and hard cock shall prevail.

Namaste[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OneOfTheBest;2756128]Those two scenarios are true textbook definition of Sugar daddy. The name of this blog should be titled much differently. I agreed with GMs first reply but second one is just as predatory. Just lying to ladies to get "free to lunch money sex" for unlimited time selling them a dream that can't be bought.[/QUOTE]I originally named it Sugar Daddy Sites as the focus at the time in my mind was to talk about girls met on an actual SD website. But SB prospecting could be at the mall, a club, in school, etc. As the availability and awareness of the possibilities on the POT side has increased, any and all location sites should be discussed. Online or Offline.

Maybe I should have named it "Sugar Daddy Sites, Sights & Insights".

I was being sarcastic since the threads aren't by definition textbook Sugar daddies and the ladies aren't textbook sugarbabies. Splenda / Trick daddy title sounds more fitting.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2756810]I originally named it Sugar Daddy Sites as the focus at the time in my mind was to talk about girls met on an actual SD website. But SB prospecting could be at the mall, a club, in school, etc. As the availability and awareness of the possibilities on the POT side has increased, any and all location sites should be discussed. Online or Offline.

Maybe I should have named it "Sugar Daddy Sites, Sights & Insights".[/QUOTE]

I can't really go on SA for a few days due to some dental work I am getting done tomorrow. And there are a ton of new girls in just the last few days. A ton. Like this crazy amount. It's endless. No one could have all those girls, And there is no competition. Practically zero. I have rarely see such an awesome buyers market.

[QUOTE=GoldenMan;2754715]ESPECIALLY for those of you guys on a WalMart budget, you need to STOP treating sugar babies and non-pros like escorts.

What so many mongers fail to understand is that SBs and NPs offer the best of all worlds, and should be treated so much differently than hookers.

.[/QUOTE]This is excellent advice. I kind of do a combo of this and HG's approach and have been very successful. In the last month I have been with 9 different women and never spent more than $ on average. I have one that has basically become a FWB and it is exactly as GM describes it. I think I will approach more with the long term goal now that I have so many reliable girls that will come over with just a little notice. I am a writer so I am able to pull a lot in by my texts.

[QUOTE=LargeEss;2758151]This is excellent advice. I kind of do a combo of this and HG's approach and have been very successful. In the last month I have been with 9 different women and never spent more than $ on average. I have one that has basically become a FWB and it is exactly as GM describes it. I think I will approach more with the long term goal now that I have so many reliable girls that will come over with just a little notice. I am a writer so I am able to pull a lot in by my texts.[/QUOTE]I do some writing myself. It's definitely an asset in this game.

I have had the majority of the women that I have contacted, using HG's method, not even want the meet and greet, just to come over and get to business. Yesterday was like that. We exchanged a number of emails and then spoke on the phone. 22 year AF. I knew she was a little overweight. She is, but she has a tight toned ass and with working out she would have a killer body. She likes it all. Women too. She gives excellent head and fucks like a madwoman. Made her come 5 times. She stayed all afternoon. We fucked sucked, ate, and started up again. At the same time I had a extremely hot AF girl get mad at me because she texted me me right before I got to business with my guest saying she had had a fight with her mom and gotten out of the car. She was mad that I hadn't texted her back and that friends didn't act that way. I have never met this girl. So is smoking hot, but pretty certain I dodged a bullet there. Picture is of the one I played with yesterday.

[QUOTE=LargeEss;2758168]At the same time I had a extremely hot AF girl get mad at me because she texted me me right before I got to business with my guest saying she had had a fight with her mom and gotten out of the car. She was mad that I hadn't texted her back and that friends didn't act that way. I have never met this girl. So is smoking hot, but pretty certain I dodged a bullet there. Picture is of the one I played with yesterday.[/QUOTE]Everyone wants what they can't have. She will want you now more than ever.
Or she will ditch you. Either way you are the winner.

And Guys. Let's keep posting those pics!

As of January the 4th of this year I am now adhering to a new Time Management White Paper Report at work, and it has to be followed 100% of the time and beyond. So I actually had to create a spreadsheet, that encompassed every activity that I am required to perform, in every area of my job on a daily, weekly, monthly basis and also for all of 2016 just to get started on the new 5 year plan at work.

This means that it has to come out of the 18 waking hours a day I have to accomplish it. By factoring in every other life activity that will also be taking up my time. I calculated that I need to and can only devote to, 16.66% or 3 hours a day, six days a week for sugaring, defined as being able to balance any and all of the time needed from prospecting to ultimately ending up in the FC.

So since tonite I could not go out, I spent 3 hours online catching up on profiles. Of the 100 or so that I looked at in my saved searches demographic I read maybe 50 of them. Out of those 50 I read maybe 30 of them more closely, and some very very closely. I finally selected 13 young ladies to send my standard opening message to followed by permission to view my private pictures.

This is not the shotgun approach I was using previously. This new more targeted process yielded the 13 prospects which covered only a four day period of me not screening anyone and all the prospects had just signed up during the four day period. So I have now officially finished the pre-screening process. There were more POTS to look at but I had already used up my allotted time.

This tighter pre-screening process now allows me to spend more time (in the advanced pre-qualifying process) per POT that replies (or doesn't reply where I take a second bite at the apple). I estimate that I can conservatively close 46% of the deals in the FC, meaning 6 of the girls. But due to my observation that trying to bed more than one random girl a week could possibly impact other work / life opportunity costs, I will ultimately have to cut out 2 of those girls from the deal this month.

This is not an optimum scenario for me if my goal is to bed as many new girls as possible in the new year. Also inevitably lowering that possibility even more are the POTS that will have the ability to entertain me for a few or more dates which will require lessening the number of meeting new girls even more.

Lucky for me my fun comes from the lower variety of girls spectrum part of the Hobby and not from the competition side to see who can bed the most women regardless of chemistry, common interests and a longer term type of companionship.

Because if it was... I wouldn't be the winner.

My previous post is slowly developing. But to be totally realistic if I found one girl that I could bang consistently I would have to consider that lucky. So I will continue to message maybe 3 new girls a day until it happens. But its my ATF and UTR that I have hit 13 times combined in the first 16 days of this month. Today (Sunday) I have to work from when I wake up till midnite. So no time for anything but some online chatting, eating and still being able to work 12 hours. But that would still leave time to see one of them if they could show up between 5 and 7 pm. But if not. Then oh well.

As strict as my new work schedule is they have both agreed to only see me on my off hours with no complaints. So I could just hang with my 2 regulars for months and never have to worry about getting my job done, but we know that isn't going to happen. I will find some new girl to fuck eventually that will want to fit into my schedule. My ATF is here to stay for sure. Its been 15 months already and we are going strong. But any UTR girl (even this new one I have done almost 30 times now) could leave or get replaced by me keeping a steady flow of messages to the new profiles at least once or twice a week until I find someone better than her, or go to three and just reduce my UTR's number of dates per month. Especially if I can find another true SB like my ATF, which is what I really would prefer and will find eventually.

Any new girl is going to have to agree to my new schedule as well, or sorry goodbye. So it is going to be tougher to find the next good girl. But not impossible as there are just too many new girls signing up every day. But my ability to do anything more this year is not going to happen. Work has to come first and this is going to be a busy year. So I have settled into being much less of a monger and way more of just being a traditional SD. Plus I find that my sexual energy is highest at the dinner hour so that was an unexpected bonus.

I never do overnites and no more roommates. Also Uber is my new best friend. My current two don't drive. So its public transportation or uber about 65% of the time now. Mostly in rush hour traffic. Its a huge time saver and totally necessary to make sure I get in my hours. So my famous $ a date limit is still in effect but once you ad in the few extras and uber's the real number is about $.5 per date, which is a good enough trade off for the benefits of working more. As my time is worth far more than what I spend extra to make it easy on myself. Maybe I'm just getting older...lol... but it really is the job thats forcing me to have everything perfectly planned out on an exact schedule.

Well, have to say, thanks to a lot of advice here, I am very pleased. I have developed a number of off-site email or text communications with ladies that I am seeing the need to narrow it down. Have a regular, have another I'm taking to a FC this week, another that I will take to a FC as soon as I can get back into her area (quite a ways away).

Plus 4 or 5 that are serious contenders. One 28 yo Hispanic is stunningly good looking and we have been emailing back and forth a lot. She has agreed to meet and as long as I don't screw it up, I think she could be the winnah. She wants an affair. Money has never been brought up and, lesson learned, I sure ain't going to!

She is in the same dull marital situation as me and needs a mental and physical partner even with this worn out old 50 yo!

Not bad since I was only able to message since the beginning of December. Owe you guys a lot. Have virtually no interest in HX at this point and barely need to log into SA. Have a lot to work with.

I ditched my UTR today, possibly for good. I will ask her if I can give out her number to senior members. I am just too busy to fuck anyone but my ATF for the time being. And I can see her anytime I want. 15 visits including ubers could run me 2 k a month. But I haven't spent that little in over 10 years on a monthly basis, so I will find the time to fuck at least one or two other girls (new girls only). Just not this one anymore.

I will update everyone on her availability hopefully by tomorrow. She is a $ a date and everything is covered. She is far from perfect, but perfectly acceptable at that price. And she will definitely put in some effort towards scheduling and transportation, and will please to the best of her abilities. She is fetish friendly and YMMV.

I have now ditched every single girl I know except my ATF and the occasional visit from my x roomy the Haitian yoga instructor / actress. So now I am hyper targeting and talking to only the most conveniently located and demographically desirable ladies (by age & looks and their willingness to take my $ offer) on SA. This could take quite a bit of time but I am in no hurry and don't really give a shit.

I am now in a traditional and exclusive relationship with my ATF. We have both agreed not to call her my GF, because my GF's come and go like republican candidates for president. Her official title is "Daddy's Little Girl". Because a real Daddy will always take care of his little girl. And there is a lot of comfort in that for both of us right now.

Just a question. For the guys that see girls regularly. Do you see them At your Home, at a Hotel, Or go to their place?

I ask this because my place does not scream Sugar Daddy. So where do you usually bed the women? Favorite Hotels also since well, its not cheap.

[QUOTE=Galaxxxy69;2762013]Just a question. For the guys that see girls regularly. Do you see them At your Home, at a Hotel, Or go to their place?

I ask this because my place does not scream Sugar Daddy. So where do you usually bed the women? Favorite Hotels also since well, its not cheap.[/QUOTE]I am single so once I am convinced that a girl is safe I just bring her to my home. But usually a .7 room will impress any girl enough to be comfortable. And car dates are always a cheap and fun alternative.

My UTR is up for grabs. Seniors only. PM for digits. $ a date. All covered. 5'5" and 125. Firm everywhere except the tummy. I am done seeing her. Saw her 30 times over a 5 month period. Reliable most of the time. She is 21 and not into partying, just playing.

[QUOTE=Galaxxxy69;2762013]Just a question. For the guys that see girls regularly. Do you see them At your Home, at a Hotel, Or go to their place?

I ask this because my place does not scream Sugar Daddy. So where do you usually bed the women? Favorite Hotels also since well, its not cheap.[/QUOTE]Within a certain radius (and after properly vetting them), I'll have them come over to my place. It's a very modest apartment, but nobody seems to care.

If the meet up is outside of my radius, I grab a hotel room, usually in the 100 range. A lot of the younger girls are wowed by any kind of average place like a Ramada or Radisson. Never been to a SB's place.

[QUOTE=DocOck;2763758]Within a certain radius (and after properly vetting them), I'll have them come over to my place. It's a very modest apartment, but nobody seems to care.

If the meet up is outside of my radius, I grab a hotel room, usually in the 100 range. A lot of the younger girls are wowed by any kind of average place like a Ramada or Radisson. Never been to a SB's place.[/QUOTE]I see one of my regulars at her place. Bring her a bottle of win or champagne or whatever and it's on. Even a shower if I want. Seeing another tomorrow at a hotel but she's already said that once she feels safe with me, we can go to her house.

I collared my ATF. More pics to follow this weekend.

Total cost for the collar, lock and chain including tax was about .8

The economy is going up & I don't intend on missing out due to lack of control in any way.
My job dictates that I be in total control of my hours, my clients, and my ability to scale.
The only way I can do that is to be in total control of my "little girl".

This one sent me her pic and agreed to my $ with great enthusiasm. Distance may be a small problem, but her attitude is already right where I need her to be. She says she has been in training for four years already and lives for DD/lg and submission.

"I can promise that the spoiling part matters much less to me than anything else, though it does matter! I got an offer for 4000/ month a few hours ago and it pained me SO much you have NO idea to turn that down, but I already knew we didn't click quite honestly. That being said, yes, I'm alright with having a low allowance! If our time spent together is of great value intellectually, emotionally, physically, all that. I'm very much happy with it! ".

These girls do exist. Stay the course.

Had an M&G last night with a petite asian girl. She got here at 8 and stayed till 2 pm. We just talked and she gave me a massage (legit massage) and she sipped some wine. Very bright and older (maybe 30). She said when she comes back I better be ready for her. LOL. And I told her if she dropped a few lbs, then for sure I would be. So we will see what happens next.

But this girl is not in it for the sugar. She knows it's a $ a date if we have sex. Tonite cost me. 2 for the uber RT (the wine was an Christmas gift, so cost me nothing). She is a moderately successful sales girl at a small agency. Well dressed and well coiffed. Kinda like a typical OC asian type looks wise but she lives in L. A. But really down to earth personality wise. I don't get many asians as they are usually too GPS for my budget.

Al I know is I had a classy asian girl in my house for a quiet night in. It worked for me. Now that I have changed my approach I am attracting some different types. Tonite is my usual ATF Friday night date.

So I came across this helpful site, I'm on HX since 08, and usually go for my regulars, but a lot have moved on. Joined WYP a few weeks ago, the site is good, but I still don't get the hang of it. I've made offers but my schedule is real tight due to work and s / o. Now are these girls on the site all dtf? Any pointers in pm would help. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Bart77;2767803]So I came across this helpful site, I'm on HX since 08, and usually go for my regulars, but a lot have moved on. Joined WYP a few weeks ago, the site is good, but I still don't get the hang of it. I've made offers but my schedule is real tight due to work and s / o. Now are these girls on the site all dtf? Any pointers in pm would help. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Go read the Richmond, VA sugar daddy thread. Read read read.

[QUOTE=Bart77;2767803]So I came across this helpful site, I'm on HX since 08, and usually go for my regulars, but a lot have moved on. Joined WYP a few weeks ago, the site is good, but I still don't get the hang of it. I've made offers but my schedule is real tight due to work and s / o. Now are these girls on the site all dtf? Any pointers in pm would help. Thanks.[/QUOTE]You'd probably be better of getting new regs.

I've been visiting Hollywood and West Hollywood a lot lately and noticed several things while also listening to the news. Santa Monica and La Brea are no longer like the days of lore when TV hookers stood on the corner. Now, there are some scrumptious, awesome looking, real females hustling in activity about. The place has changed, but you still can observe all the crappy cars driving about. Also, in the news there are lots of reports of 1 out of 4 Angelinos who are earning less than the poverty level. Factor in the price of an average apartment, of roughly $1800/ month, and we have the ingredients for a sugar daddy success. I've talked to a few of the women who moved here to find happiness and their parents are footing the bill. Most hadn't realized that their is a steep difference from living in the midcity versus a place like detroit.

They have acting classes to take, performances in nonpaying theatres to give, headshots to take, and only have, at best, a shitty part-time job. I took my dogs for a walk recently for a little sunny lunchtime excursion upon Melrose and got attacked by women.

There were some easy pickins with 8 to 9 ers out there.

Giddy Up

I did have an unusual but ok experience this evening. Out of the blue an average 19 year old White girl says how about dinner. Like right now. I was just thinking about dinner so I told her as long as it was nothing crazy I am always down to feed a hungry girl with no expectations other than she make it easy and we can just pass the time for a couple hours.

She came right over. I spent .2 on a pasta dinner. We spent a couple hours chatting and she was on her way. Never going to see her again. But it was all good. I asked her if she did that often, and she said often enough to know how to do it right.

Has anyone given Sugarmodels a try? Not as many profiles, but almost everybody seems to be an 8-10. See some familiar faces from SA. Is this supposed to be a higher end version of SA? (site format and layout are almost exactly the same).

[QUOTE=DocOck;2772913]Has anyone given Sugarmodels a try? Not as many profiles, but almost everybody seems to be an 8-10. See some familiar faces from SA. Is this supposed to be a higher end version of SA? (site format and layout are almost exactly the same).[/QUOTE]Never heard of it. Right now SA has my hands full. And more. Report back on your adventures there if you sign up.

[QUOTE=DocOck;2772913]Has anyone given Sugarmodels a try? Not as many profiles, but almost everybody seems to be an 8-10. See some familiar faces from SA. Is this supposed to be a higher end version of SA? (site format and layout are almost exactly the same).[/QUOTE]Yeah, if there was "Average housewives in need with low financial expectations" I'm in! LOL.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2773301]Never heard of it. Right now SA has my hands full. And more. Report back on your adventures there if you sign up.[/QUOTE]I couldn't even find their website?

Here. [URL]https://www.sugarmodels.com[/URL].

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2774836]I couldn't even find their website?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lebruno;2775610]Here. [URL]https://www.sugarmodels.com[/URL].[/QUOTE]Looks like a matchmaking scam.