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[QUOTE=GoRanger;3702792]You must say something in your pm's to not get many replies. It's rare I don't get a reply from guys. Often though, it might be because they don't have PM privileges anymore and had to buy fx points. Anyway, I still believe after 15 years, private messages is where you get more honest information. It's always been that way for me at least.[/QUOTE]Agreed. I'll always reply to a request for info. That's one reason to be a member in the first place. It may not be a full novel but at the very least I'll give a thumbs up / down. Surprised at the number of guys that never say thanks for the reply. I'll make a note and never reply back for further request for info. I've also gotten some good referrals from guys who appreciate the info.

[QUOTE=SCJohn;3703264]Agreed. I'll always reply to a request for info. That's one reason to be a member in the first place. It may not be a full novel but at the very least I'll give a thumbs up / down. Surprised at the number of guys that never say thanks for the reply. I'll make a note and never reply back for further request for info. I've also gotten some good referrals from guys who appreciate the info.[/QUOTE]I do that exact same thing. I keep notes on who says thank you and who doesn't. Also, who has helped me, and who I've helped. My notes section is stupid long. Haha.

[QUOTE=JamesD2004;3703171]To (follow) review or not to review, that's the question. It depends what type of person you are or evolve into. There's no harm in reviews (actually it does) but I'm not paying $20 or even $10 or keeping my big mouth shut or begging to stay in.

I'm not a big fan of somebody, big enough that I would fuck after him girl after girl. I'm not waiting after the whole village have done her; that would be level 1 or above.

There are k-girls or some others on TER over 100 reviews! Some guys must have been following reviews religiously, afraid of wasting money. There are costs too if you do that all the time. Like opportunity cost? Passionate new girls as compared to the "passionate" whatever after a 100 reviews.

Branding. HX managed to give us something close to reliable agencies. There are plenty who won't do anything without TER reviews. Many gems in HX aren't even available outside of HX, at least not in that price. Would you be missing out similiarly if you only do what the others do in the clubs? It's pretty easy to spot which girls operate the same way and who are the same types. Usually they don't disappoint. A year or two I was offered a Christmas special of $300 half. I regretted not to take it as she never returned to the cheap HX guys. Now there's another. I should have took it. But I hesitated and asked the few in her network. Of course they say she's worth it. I hope she comes back. Anyway a k-girl for $260 hr or a pretty blonde for $330 hhr isn't that different to me. My 2nd shot is not that great.

And the k-girls are all PSE now; you couldn't miss. But the pictures are all fake now. It would be useful for picture accuracy rating and face rating. But the guys in AAMP deliberately skip those things.

HX agents recruit hot girls from somewhere else or from within HX. These girls appear regularly until they are no longer desired. The less popular ones are dropped very soon. I can almost give you a popular rating if I were to make charts base on my email subscriptions. Of course you have to be able to tell apart those girls who are really independent who just turn up with little overhead hoping to get some money, any money, before they are forced to retire.

I have plenty of memorable moments that I wouldn't have if I look at their reviews; I wouldn't have seen them.[/QUOTE]That's the best part of HX. Trying out new girls that are level 0 and finding some real gems.

I found info on this thread that helped me to avoid a double account, fake pic girl on HX and I really appreciate that.

Maybe there could be a third-party review board for girls on HX that could be cheaper than TER. I know a lot of guys here have a lot to contribute.

But that would probably be shut down since I'm sure the mods on HX like their monopoly.

Often times, the only thing I want to know is if the girl has a pretty face. Some girls asking for $$ donations but no face pics? Come on now.

I was recommended one girl by another guy on HX. I was really excited to meet her because this guy "highly recommended" her so I booked an appt with her even though I don't usually see girls on this day of the week. I get there and her face is a 6 maybe 7/10. Now the girl was really nice and skilled BUT I still wouldn't have seen her if I had good info. A part of me wanted to leave the second she opened the door but I don't want to get on a booker's blacklist if he / she has some great girls that I might potentially miss out on if I got on their bad side. I doubt something like this would've happened on say, Nightshift or TER, but like I said in a previous post, the quality of girls on HX is really hit and miss but when you hit, you hit the jackpot.

[QUOTE=OnlyHX;3704371]I found info on this thread that helped me to avoid a double account, fake pic girl on HX and I really appreciate that.

Maybe there could be a third-party review board for girls on HX that could be cheaper than TER. I know a lot of guys here have a lot to contribute.

But that would probably be shut down since I'm sure the mods on HX like their monopoly.[/QUOTE]I can think of 4 sites were I find info on HX girls. This place is one of them. But the most reliable and extensive site is HX itself. As previously mentioned, the more info you have the better chance of a good encounter. I can count on one hand the number of times I've been disappointed. It's always a TOFTT session, where the little head decided to go for it. But at least, I can pass on the info to save others from making the same mistake.

I don't worry about how many times they've been around the block. What's important is how good a session they currently provide. Some get burnt out after a few months, heck I know of one that decided after the first day that this line of work wasn't for her. But others have been at this game for several years and each session is an escape from reality. Those are the ones that I keep going back too.

[QUOTE=GoRanger;3702792]You must say something in your pm's to not get many replies. It's rare I don't get a reply from guys. Often though, it might be because they don't have PM privileges anymore and had to buy fx points. Anyway, I still believe after 15 years, private messages is where you get more honest information. It's always been that way for me at least.[/QUOTE]I am one of those who lets the PM privilege lapse for months or more. I don't use the site all that often, and if I do, it's mainly a person or agency I've seen or used before and use their phone number. I'm not going to pay the HX ripoff fee to keep my PM privileges active if I never use it. I had seen a girl awhile back and a day or two later my PM privileges ran out. I got a bunch of PM's asking about her, and replied to none of them because I'm not going to a store to buy a gift CC and buy some fx points so I can reply to some random dudes.

[QUOTE=OnlyHX;3704371]I found info on this thread that helped me to avoid a double account, fake pic girl on HX and I really appreciate that.

Maybe there could be a third-party review board for girls on HX that could be cheaper than TER. I know a lot of guys here have a lot to contribute.

But that would probably be shut down since I'm sure the mods on HX like their monopoly.[/QUOTE]There was, it was called ***********z, and was shut down for some reason?

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[QUOTE=OnlyHX;3704390]Often times, the only thing I want to know is if the girl has a pretty face. Some girls asking for $$ donations but no face pics? Come on now.

I was recommended one girl by another guy on HX. I was really excited to meet her because this guy "highly recommended" her so I booked an appt with her even though I don't usually see girls on this day of the week. I get there and her face is a 6 maybe 7/10. Now the girl was really nice and skilled BUT I still wouldn't have seen her if I had good info. A part of me wanted to leave the second she opened the door but I don't want to get on a booker's blacklist if he / she has some great girls that I might potentially miss out on if I got on their bad side. I doubt something like this would've happened on say, Nightshift or TER, but like I said in a previous post, the quality of girls on HX is really hit and miss but when you hit, you hit the jackpot.[/QUOTE]There are a lot of wannabe amateur pimps on HX. They pump up the girl to be much more than they are. There are also some actual pimps, they rate the girls and when you PM them you get stellar reviews for shitty girls. You usually encounter these in PM because they won't post the shill reviews in the clubs, they'll get outed soon enough. The good thing is once bitten, twice shy. You learn who is trustworthy on HX whether in the review clubs or through PM.

[QUOTE=ARod978;3705120]There are a lot of wannabe amateur pimps on HX. They pump up the girl to be much more than they are. There are also some actual pimps, they rate the girls and when you PM them you get stellar reviews for shitty girls. You usually encounter these in PM because they won't post the shill reviews in the clubs, they'll get outed soon enough. The good thing is once bitten, twice shy. You learn who is trustworthy on HX whether in the review clubs or through PM.[/QUOTE]Everyone has their own taste / preference. Some guys like big butts, me not so much. There's also the YMMV factor. At the very least, you know that she's safe, what services she's likely to provide and what the cost will be. That's why it's good to get a few opinions.

Anyone know what's going on with the Bliss Crew?

Some of their profiles are restricted due to violation of Terms of Service. I never see anything advertised on their classifieds that would warrant a restriction. Some girls openly advertise things like "head doctor" but never have problems with their profiles.

HX is a weird place.

[QUOTE=OnlyHX;3705510]Anyone know what's going on with the Bliss Crew?

Some of their profiles are restricted due to violation of Terms of Service. I never see anything advertised on their classifieds that would warrant a restriction. Some girls openly advertise things like "head doctor" but never have problems with their profiles.

HX is a weird place.[/QUOTE]There was a ROB report on one of their girls with the pimp walking into the room to get the money paid. It wasn't clear what exactly happened. The john claimed the dispute was with his shower time and whether that should have counted to his total block time. There were some threats and the john paid the 45 minute rate but then reported them to Safety.

Not sure if that was enough to get the HX censors on the Bliss Crew.

[QUOTE=OnlyHX;3705510]Anyone know what's going on with the Bliss Crew?

Some of their profiles are restricted due to violation of Terms of Service. I never see anything advertised on their classifieds that would warrant a restriction. Some girls openly advertise things like "head doctor" but never have problems with their profiles.

HX is a weird place.[/QUOTE]HX is garbage.

What girls do you guys recommend for greek? I've never tried greek.

I was on a roll performance-wise. I finished a big ticket item and didn't have enough cum to justify another big-ticket item. It was the in-between thing. So I took the chance to go for one of the over-exposed college girls. Pictures with unrealistic exposure. I didn't expect much and I didn't have much to lose. She has a pretty young face. What could go wrong?

It wasn't a 4-star hotel but the motel was decent, in a quiet corner, but next to an industrial area. Her picture though was totally fake. Maybe she is the girl in the picture a few years older but to me, she's totally different. Though she is a white girl, may not be at college but far from the Chinese MILF in MP's. Then I didn't remember I looked at her body pictures. They looked all alike to me. All have pretty young faces and some showed model bodies. But she didn't.

She was in a sort of robe to defuse her outline. She was totally naked in front. She was visibly out of shape. It wasn't terrible but very much not like a college girl. She wasn't a challenge; I can do Chinese MILF without problems. I just needed a good fuck in between bigger ticket items. And I didn't want to do it myself.

The disadvantage of HX is that if she is really independent, she may look at my sex history and blogs. I can use sockpuppets for blogging but it is too much trouble to avoid being caught. Not that they will ban you but they know who your sockpuppets are if you are not careful enough.

She knew that she didn't look that great so she tried to compensate for what she can do. And she might know that I'm the sort of person falling for all sorts of ATF's. First, it was a passionate blowjob. I didn't bother to check her out first with my lips, tongue and everything else. I just laid there. She didn't seem to want to let go. So I had to tell her to move on. She was surprised that I wanted cowgirl next. It wasn't a great choice for her; I was just used to it. I didn't think that I had to see frontal close up of her out of shape naked body.

It wasn't bad. She rode with passion. She actually DFKed me passionately. She rode intense after that; I had to stop her. Again I had no intention to check her out thoroughly and go through all the positions. I just went straight to the missionary. My BFE kicked in all by itself and she responded. So, as usual, I fucked her with my tongue and cock at the same time.

When I finally cum, she petted me like a cat. So I just left my still hard cock inside her pussy and rest at the missionary position for the time left.

When it was time to say goodbye, she was so confident of her performance and my response that she kissed me and asked if I am coming back. I hate to lie. So I just gave her a hug and asked how long will she stay there. It wasn't the right question for her but it was for the k-girls and c-girls who rotates a lot. But her question was wrong in the first place. I can't come back if they don't turn up first.

[QUOTE=JamesD2004;3707122]I was on a roll performance-wise. I finished a big ticket item and didn't have enough cum to justify another big-ticket item. It was the in-between thing. So I took the chance to go for one of the over-exposed college girls. Pictures with unrealistic exposure. I didn't expect much and I didn't have much to lose. She has a pretty young face. What could go wrong?

It wasn't a 4-star hotel but the motel was decent, in a quiet corner, but next to an industrial area. Her picture though was totally fake. Maybe she is the girl in the picture a few years older but to me, she's totally different. Though she is a white girl, may not be at college but far from the Chinese MILF in MP's. Then I didn't remember I looked at her body pictures. They looked all alike to me. All have pretty young faces and some showed model bodies. But she didn't.

She was in a sort of robe to defuse her outline. She was totally naked in front. She was visibly out of shape. It wasn't terrible but very much not like a college girl. She wasn't a challenge; I can do Chinese MILF without problems. I just needed a good fuck in between bigger ticket items. And I didn't want to do it myself.

The disadvantage of HX is that if she is really independent, she may look at my sex history and blogs. I can use sockpuppets for blogging but it is too much trouble to avoid being caught. Not that they will ban you but they know who your sockpuppets are if you are not careful enough.

She knew that she didn't look that great so she tried to compensate for what she can do. And she might know that I'm the sort of person falling for all sorts of ATF's. First, it was a passionate blowjob. I didn't bother to check her out first with my lips, tongue and everything else. I just laid there. She didn't seem to want to let go. So I had to tell her to move on. She was surprised that I wanted cowgirl next. It wasn't a great choice for her; I was just used to it. I didn't think that I had to see frontal close up of her out of shape naked body.

It wasn't bad. She rode with passion. She actually DFKed me passionately. She rode intense after that; I had to stop her. Again I had no intention to check her out thoroughly and go through all the positions. I just went straight to the missionary. My BFE kicked in all by itself and she responded. So, as usual, I fucked her with my tongue and cock at the same time.

When I finally cum, she petted me like a cat. So I just left my still hard cock inside her pussy and rest at the missionary position for the time left.

When it was time to say goodbye, she was so confident of her performance and my response that she kissed me and asked if I am coming back. I hate to lie. So I just gave her a hug and asked how long will she stay there. It wasn't the right question for her but it was for the k-girls and c-girls who rotates a lot. But her question was wrong in the first place. I can't come back if they don't turn up first.[/QUOTE]So who was this mystery girl? Reviews without names are not very useful.

How many of you have walked on a bait and switch? I've been tricked 2-3 times and never walked out but I think that's a mistake. I should be kicking these girls to the curb when that happens so it doesn't happen to anyone else. It costs me time and money, I'm definitely not getting what I paid for. Thoughts?

[QUOTE=Loveandmoney;3708339]How many of you have walked on a bait and switch? I've been tricked 2-3 times and never walked out but I think that's a mistake. I should be kicking these girls to the curb when that happens so it doesn't happen to anyone else. It costs me time and money, I'm definitely not getting what I paid for. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]I've walked a couple times before.

One time the hooker was on the rag and didn't tell me. I didn't pay her but her pimp gave me a red in Karma.

Small price to pay, otherwise I would have gotten just a blowjob for a full sexual intercourse fee.

[QUOTE=Loveandmoney;3708339]How many of you have walked on a bait and switch? I've been tricked 2-3 times and never walked out but I think that's a mistake. I should be kicking these girls to the curb when that happens so it doesn't happen to anyone else. It costs me time and money, I'm definitely not getting what I paid for. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]One way to prevent this from happening is to post your experience here with names, so that others can avoid these profiles. In the future, do you homework, PM several guys in her network to find out how their meeting went. And, yes you should walk if they look nothing like their pics.

[QUOTE=ARod978;3707615]So who was this mystery girl? Reviews without names are not very useful.[/QUOTE]Very easy. Just be careful about the pictures overly exposed with a pretty face like a college girl and nothing much else. I didn't think enough because I probably mixed them up with another crew.

To response to another post, bait and switch have been rare for me in HX other than the K-girls. But the last 6 ft K-girl I met seemed to be doing very well; she never left.

[QUOTE=ARod978;3705120]There are a lot of wannabe amateur pimps on HX. They pump up the girl to be much more than they are. There are also some actual pimps, they rate the girls and when you PM them you get stellar reviews for shitty girls. You usually encounter these in PM because they won't post the shill reviews in the clubs, they'll get outed soon enough. The good thing is once bitten, twice shy. You learn who is trustworthy on HX whether in the review clubs or through PM.[/QUOTE]Yea, I get worried that a guy I'm asking for information from is actually the girl's booker or has something else to gain from me seeing that particular girl.

A few days ago I saw a girl with a solid network, great body pictures, and a recommendation from someone who I thought would be into my "type". She is obviously managed and her classified stated that she was a Latina. I get there, she opens the door, and I can tell instantly that "Latina" is a stretch. She was of an ethnicity that I would have otherwise not seen if I had more accurate information. Her body definitely matched her pics, she was a nice girl, everything on her menu was on the table, and she had a decent face. However, I think lying about ethnicity is unforgivable since every guy has their "type". The infatuation with K-girls is evidence of this.

I felt like leaving the second she opened the door, but since there are secret clubs on HX and information out there that not everyone is privy too, I get paranoid at times that getting on one girl's bad side or a booker's blacklist can hurt me big time in the long run.

This is really turning me off the hobby and HX. I do think a hiatus is in order so I can reevaluate how I approach both HX and the hobby. A big thanks to all those who have contributed valuable information on here and may you not come across the same or similar misfortunes.

[QUOTE=ARod978;3705120]There are a lot of wannabe amateur pimps on HX. They pump up the girl to be much more than they are. There are also some actual pimps, they rate the girls and when you PM them you get stellar reviews for shitty girls. You usually encounter these in PM because they won't post the shill reviews in the clubs, they'll get outed soon enough. The good thing is once bitten, twice shy. You learn who is trustworthy on HX whether in the review clubs or through PM.[/QUOTE]Yea, I get worried that a guy I'm asking for information from is actually the girl's booker or has something else to gain from me seeing that particular girl.

A few days ago I saw a girl with a solid network, great body pictures, and a recommendation from someone who I thought would be into my "type". She is obviously managed and her classified stated that she was a Latina. I get there, she opens the door, and I can tell instantly that "Latina" is a stretch. She was of an ethnicity that I would have otherwise not seen if I had more accurate information. Her body definitely matched her pics, she was a nice girl, everything on her menu was on the table, and she had a decent face. However, I think lying about ethnicity is unforgivable since every guy has their "type". The infatuation with K-girls is evidence of this.

I felt like leaving the second she opened the door, but since there are secret clubs on HX and information out there that not everyone is privy too, I get paranoid at times that getting on one girl's bad side or a booker's blacklist can hurt me big time in the long run.

This is really turning me off the hobby and HX. I do think a hiatus is in order so I can reevaluate how I approach both HX and the hobby. A big thanks to all those who have contributed valuable information on here and may you not come across the same or similar misfortunes.

[QUOTE=OnlyHX;3711773]Yea, I get worried that a guy I'm asking for information from is actually the girl's booker or has something else to gain from me seeing that particular girl.

A few days ago I saw a girl with a solid network, great body pictures, and a recommendation from someone who I thought would be into my "type". She is obviously managed and her classified stated that she was a Latina. I get there, she opens the door, and I can tell instantly that "Latina" is a stretch. She was of an ethnicity that I would have otherwise not seen if I had more accurate information. Her body definitely matched her pics, she was a nice girl, everything on her menu was on the table, and she had a decent face. However, I think lying about ethnicity is unforgivable since every guy has their "type". The infatuation with K-girls is evidence of this.

I felt like leaving the second she opened the door, but since there are secret clubs on HX and information out there that not everyone is privy too, I get paranoid at times that getting on one girl's bad side or a booker's blacklist can hurt me big time in the long run.

This is really turning me off the hobby and HX. I do think a hiatus is in order so I can reevaluate how I approach both HX and the hobby. A big thanks to all those who have contributed valuable information on here and may you not come across the same or similar misfortunes.[/QUOTE]That reinforce my point, because that type of fluffing would not occur in the men's clubs, because the guys who have fucked the girl would have called out the racial incongruence. When you get PM's, there is less accountability.

Yeah I went off HX for a while but found that nothing compares to it, at least in SoCal. BP is a crapshoot between LE and fake pictures, and CV are the same girls charging double.

[QUOTE=OnlyHX;3711785]Yea, I get worried that a guy I'm asking for information from is actually the girl's booker or has something else to gain from me seeing that particular girl.

This is really turning me off the hobby and HX. I do think a hiatus is in order so I can reevaluate how I approach both HX and the hobby. A big thanks to all those who have contributed valuable information on here and may you not come across the same or similar misfortunes.[/QUOTE]And it happens again. Be happy that the menu still stood as you liked. Nothing worse ordering a filet mignon and having it be and taste like bologna. Seriously. I just don't get it. Do the bookers NOT KNOW that it will come to the surface?? I to worry about walking out but if it happens to me, I don't hesitate to turn around. Here's why. The last thing a booker wants is dirty laundry going on on the site about how they / she is misleading a customer. You wouldn't have done anything wrong if you walked out. The integrity was compromised. That's one of the "BIG DEALS" about the site. You will eventually figure out what crews are on the up and up and the ones who are not. I don't even get near a crew / booker that is full of crap. I move on.

Hang in there. This is just about learning to navigate. PM me if you would like. Happy to help.

I can't really figure out what onlyhx is worrying about. It's like ghosts on one end of the boat and robbers on the other; the boat is in the middle of the ocean.

Are you saying you prepare to play nice with everybody so you level up, fucking undesirable girls on the way? What's the point?

Are you guys thinking too much, with or without secret clubs?

Sometimes I look at the new girl's network, sometimes I find guys with similar tastes. Usually, for the list of girls I'm interested, I can find somebody who did a few while I did the others. Sometimes we have a lot in common (fuck). Other times he had done a lot that I haven't; that's the best info source. Instead of leveling up at all cost, I only rate girls that I recommend or highly recommend; unless she is OK and asks for it desperately. I don't bother asking guys who are indiscriminate; the 260 ones will be better than the 120 ones.

For years I didn't even use HX because it makes no difference for the k-girls. For girls charging 300 to 400 on HX, you won't be doing too much worse if you hit on the Russian / Eastern Europeans agencies at random.

If you find somebody that has a common interest, it's hard for them not to talk. A guy just gave me a short list of his best of the best without me asking. They are all big ticket items so it will be very useful when I have extra money in the bank and the info is hard to find.

There is this one and only girl that I have an erection whenever I look at her pictures. A guy confessed that he did better, masturbating to her pictures. As horney as I was, I resisted to see her that much because her face was a disappointment in comparison.

A guy told me that he had great fun with this vocal girl. He fucked her until she screamed daddy every time. I agreed but I didn't like her talking that much, requiring me to think when my blood needed to be somewhere else. But after a few times, I discovered that she was open for DFK. Since then I always kept her mouth shut when we were in close contact. After I told him that, he never talked to me.

[QUOTE=GuysTT2;3712052]And it happens again. Be happy that the menu still stood as you liked. Nothing worse ordering a filet mignon and having it be and taste like bologna. Seriously. I just don't get it. Do the bookers NOT KNOW that it will come to the surface?? I to worry about walking out but if it happens to me, I don't hesitate to turn around. Here's why. The last thing a booker wants is dirty laundry going on on the site about how they / she is misleading a customer. You wouldn't have done anything wrong if you walked out. The integrity was compromised. That's one of the "BIG DEALS" about the site. You will eventually figure out what crews are on the up and up and the ones who are not. I don't even get near a crew / booker that is full of crap. I move on.

Hang in there. This is just about learning to navigate. PM me if you would like. Happy to help.[/QUOTE]Most of the pimps are fairly honest on HX. The only pimps that do bait and switch are Chinese pimps like Madelin, SweetAsianGirls, Asiandolls4 u, etc. That's how they cater to the Chinese market so they see no need to change how they operate. Many of their customers are language-challenged so have nowhere else to go. All of their competitors offer the same girls anyway, so they just take the same practice onto HX. It's for desperate guys who want a sperm-milking experience for as cheap as possible, never mind a poor detached experience. $140 for HHR types.

I know it is a good time to strike when the 666 beast came out. I bet many girls had zero days, particularly at the higher end. It just happened that I've been preparing for a hookup the whole week. I have been working out a lot, flossing between every tooth every day and brushed with my new active carbon whitening tooth powder. I couldn't say they all worked but they are totally worth it.

The highly recommended list that the level 0 guy gave me all came out this week. They are all on my radar anyway; now I'm going after them with a push. When most girls were gone by the end of the week and some changed their plans, I ended up with the last on the list. Why? She probably cost the most. That's why I hesitated without some encouragement. BTW, she has been around for a year or so, have a decent network and still level 0. I myself dropped back to level 0 once but I think Abbey somehow kept me up to stay in her club.

The booker remembered me and the girl he booked for me over a year ago. I saw her only once but I did try to see her again at the time but our schedule didn't work out. I like these guys better than the PO's of the k-girls. They are good but you don't feel like VIP. But for the price these other HX girls charges, everybody should be VIP.

So I navigate to this smaller high-end hotel that I don't know even existed in a very familiar central area. I arrived early and turned on one of the most popular webcam sites to watch a look-alike girl having her remote orgasm. Soon I got the room number and when I got there the door was already unlocked. I pushed the door and saw behind it exactly the girl in the picture.

Today I let my long fluffy hair down without gel, in my sagging pants rocking a pair of designer slippers.

She is a model in her mid-twenties. But she looked like a skinny teen model that I came for. By default, I prefer long hairs but her stylish short blonde won me over. She does know how to makeup, a lot better than the teens. She has a bit of colour on to compliment her pale skin but light enough to do body to body combat without worrying about smearing or coming off. Usually, you know what the makeup is trying to compensate but for her, I couldn't tell. She may be just as pretty without makeup but certainly more beautiful with something on.

Soon after I walked in, she DFK's me. And she never stopped! I tried to lighten the suction or looked at her to see if that's too much for her and we should go to the next stage. But she seemed to be in no rush to do anything else but kept kissing me, both standing up by the bed. Then I remembered to check her boobs; I was certain she had a great body but she didn't show her A / B cup in the pictures. I pulled down her top to review one of them. It was better than I could imagine. It was teen perky with pinkish responsive nipples. I have a theory that the A / B cups try to keep their top or bra on for longer. They will keep it on in bed if you let them. I just hold on to her breast and kept kissing with or without the tongue.

She didn't ask me to take a shower, no blue toast either. In between DFK we took off our clothes, I put my money on the table and asked her for a twirl of her naked model body for me to admire. Then I fed on her sitting on the bed while she stood up. I was as hungry as I was feeding on my 1st girlfriend.

I noticed her walking barefoot. But her feet looked clean and it was a high-end hotel. So I did her toes anyway. I didn't go all the way as the big one was very slightly salty. Her legs looked great and their texture passed my tongue test. When I was eating her, I felt that she wanted to cum. I don't know if it was real but she complimented my skills. But I was just vacuuming her pussy.

After the tension was over I signalled her to turn over. But she took on the doggie position. Her pinkish starfish looked great on her pale butt, teen great. So I mapped all the subtle and delicate star pattern with my tongue, occasionally probed a little deeper. Then I felt her pretty feet reaching for my cock; so I did a little feet job at the same time dinning at her o.

I lied down after doing her from toe to head. She is a typical white teen model but she fucked very much like a k-girl, except for the CIM. She took care of my nipples, shaft and balls. When she started something she wouldn't stop. I had to ask her to move on to the cowgirl. She had to sit down on the saddle very carefully and very slowly before I was fully in. She complimented my perfect size. I complimented her perfect pair and held on to them during the ride. When she could move fluently she bent down and DFK'ed me too.

After she warmed up, I wouldn't want any other position other than the DFK missionary. And she didn't disappoint. And we kissed and fucked until I cum. I wouldn't want to cum anywhere else when we were tongue to tongue. She caressed my back like a k-girl so I just lied on top of her. When I finally rolled over to sleep she just slipped into my arm and held me, until I kissed her forehead and got up to the bathroom to clean up.

And for all that I ended up paying less than a k-girl! Because I booked her for half hour. I think she might have mixed up that I booked for an hour. But it doesn't look like it as she was going for it at the beginning. No shower, no conversation. I know often bookers don't tell the girls how long the next client booked. If she doesn't ask and doesn't count the money there may be misunderstandings. I had that experience before; for the same girl, I changed from an hour to half or vice vera. Or maybe she wanted to get my first shot sooner and then wanted me to extend time. I would love to if I had the money and the stamina.

I was doing quite well compared to the k-girls. I had the full 30 minutes and maybe a little bit more. I might have DFK's her more in a half-hour than my last k-girl in an hour. For the looks, there's no comparison.

[QUOTE=ARod978;3713663]Most of the pimps are fairly honest on HX. The only pimps that do bait and switch are Chinese pimps like Madelin, SweetAsianGirls, Asiandolls4 u, etc. That's how they cater to the Chinese market so they see no need to change how they operate. Many of their customers are language-challenged so have nowhere else to go. All of their competitors offer the same girls anyway, so they just take the same practice onto HX. It's for desperate guys who want a sperm-milking experience for as cheap as possible, never mind a poor detached experience. $140 for HHR types.[/QUOTE]The K-girls are C-girls are mostly independents now. They pick their own pictures and give them to the bookers. So many of the pictures are fake or unrealistic. As for the Chinese, they are certainly self-sufficient. There were brothels in every major intersection in SGV. Their k-girls were younger. Those you mentioned are either thinking that they deserve more than the $120 in SGV or nobody wants them for $120 there.

[QUOTE=JamesD2004;3714090]I know it is a good time to strike when the 666 beast came out. I bet many girls had zero days, particularly at the higher end. It just happened that I've been preparing for a hookup the whole week. I have been working out a lot, flossing between every tooth every day and brushed with my new active carbon whitening tooth powder. I couldn't say they all worked but they are totally worth it.

The highly recommended list that the level 0 guy gave me all came out this week. They are all on my radar anyway; now I'm going after them with a push. When most girls were gone by the end of the week and some changed their plans, I ended up with the last on the list. Why? She probably cost the most. That's why I hesitated without some encouragement. BTW, she has been around for a year or so, have a decent network and still level 0. I myself dropped back to level 0 once but I think Abbey somehow kept me up to stay in her club.

The booker remembered me and the girl he booked for me over a year ago. I saw her only once but I did try to see her again at the time but our schedule didn't work out. I like these guys better than the PO's of the k-girls. They are good but you don't feel like VIP. But for the price these other HX girls charges, everybody should be VIP.

So I navigate to this smaller high-end hotel that I don't know even existed in a very familiar central area. I arrived early and turned on one of the most popular webcam sites to watch a look-alike girl having her remote orgasm. Soon I got the room number and when I got there the door was already unlocked. I pushed the door and saw behind it exactly the girl in the picture.

Today I let my long fluffy hair down without gel, in my sagging pants rocking a pair of designer slippers.

She is a model in her mid-twenties. But she looked like a skinny teen model that I came for. By default, I prefer long hairs but her stylish short blonde won me over. She does know how to makeup, a lot better than the teens. She has a bit of colour on to compliment her pale skin but light enough to do body to body combat without worrying about smearing or coming off. Usually, you know what the makeup is trying to compensate but for her, I couldn't tell. She may be just as pretty without makeup but certainly more beautiful with something on.

Soon after I walked in, she DFK's me. And she never stopped! I tried to lighten the suction or looked at her to see if that's too much for her and we should go to the next stage. But she seemed to be in no rush to do anything else but kept kissing me, both standing up by the bed. Then I remembered to check her boobs; I was certain she had a great body but she didn't show her A / B cup in the pictures. I pulled down her top to review one of them. It was better than I could imagine. It was teen perky with pinkish responsive nipples. I have a theory that the A / B cups try to keep their top or bra on for longer. They will keep it on in bed if you let them. I just hold on to her breast and kept kissing with or without the tongue.

She didn't ask me to take a shower, no blue toast either. In between DFK we took off our clothes, I put my money on the table and asked her for a twirl of her naked model body for me to admire. Then I fed on her sitting on the bed while she stood up. I was as hungry as I was feeding on my 1st girlfriend.

I noticed her walking barefoot. But her feet looked clean and it was a high-end hotel. So I did her toes anyway. I didn't go all the way as the big one was very slightly salty. Her legs looked great and their texture passed my tongue test. When I was eating her, I felt that she wanted to cum. I don't know if it was real but she complimented my skills. But I was just vacuuming her pussy.

After the tension was over I signalled her to turn over. But she took on the doggie position. Her pinkish starfish looked great on her pale butt, teen great. So I mapped all the subtle and delicate star pattern with my tongue, occasionally probed a little deeper. Then I felt her pretty feet reaching for my cock; so I did a little feet job at the same time dinning at her o.

I lied down after doing her from toe to head. She is a typical white teen model but she fucked very much like a k-girl, except for the CIM. She took care of my nipples, shaft and balls. When she started something she wouldn't stop. I had to ask her to move on to the cowgirl. She had to sit down on the saddle very carefully and very slowly before I was fully in. She complimented my perfect size. I complimented her perfect pair and held on to them during the ride. When she could move fluently she bent down and DFK'ed me too.

After she warmed up, I wouldn't want any other position other than the DFK missionary. And she didn't disappoint. And we kissed and fucked until I cum. I wouldn't want to cum anywhere else when we were tongue to tongue. She caressed my back like a k-girl so I just lied on top of her. When I finally rolled over to sleep she just slipped into my arm and held me, until I kissed her forehead and got up to the bathroom to clean up.

And for all that I ended up paying less than a k-girl! Because I booked her for half hour. I think she might have mixed up that I booked for an hour. But it doesn't look like it as she was going for it at the beginning. No shower, no conversation. I know often bookers don't tell the girls how long the next client booked. If she doesn't ask and doesn't count the money there may be misunderstandings. I had that experience before; for the same girl, I changed from an hour to half or vice vera. Or maybe she wanted to get my first shot sooner and then wanted me to extend time. I would love to if I had the money and the stamina.

I was doing quite well compared to the k-girls. I had the full 30 minutes and maybe a little bit more. I might have DFK's her more in a half-hour than my last k-girl in an hour. For the looks, there's no comparison.[/QUOTE]I'm not even sure what this is?

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It's easier to tell you an inspiring story when it happens, as opposed to discussing philosophy or telling you what to do and not, and to explain all the rules. That's what the Bible, Jesus, and Budda did most of the time.

It's always hard to make enough to pay rent for the tax season lasting 4 months. A 666 pt drop followed by 1000 is really scary for those who don't depend on minimum wage clients and those on a fixed salary without capital assets. If you throw the ladies a stone they will grab it, hoping it will float. Just when the sky is falling, I just happened to book the girl I saw last Sat. She invited me to go all the way to an interesting area in LA to her apartment. Really her apartment or not, she's trying her best to hang on to any good client and lower her overhead. Not a problem for me. I just volunteer to go to LA and get mileage for my trouble.

For those who experienced GFE but YMMV might want to check their breath. Mouth rinse lasts just a few minutes. I remembered a very nice Russian girl who only visit La Jolla and OC on HX wouldn't stop kissing me once we met. She would be on top of me pinning me down doing mouth to mouth resuscitation. She would turn away to recover her breath and then kept DFK me until she ran out of the air in her lungs again. I enjoyed the constant DFK but I wasn't into it too much as I knew why she had to turn her head to breath, LOL. For the conventional wisdom (webmd), lack of flossing isn't a cause but it actually is. And now there's the throat stone or tonsil stone. Brushing helps in general and the color of teeth also reflect the possibility of you having all the insurances and checkups. Anything with dry soft fine powder is way better than toothpaste, baking soda, kaolin clay, bonita clay and now active charcoal (fine).

Now there are many ways to use a sword and a pair of chopsticks, same for HX. I personally know a blonde that doesn't often return ratings (unless you insist), so you are not encouraged to rate her. Now she changed her name and restarted. Another blonde delete her account and make a new one all the time so she looks like an HX freshman again and again. But old clients will know who they are. There are many reasons wanting to stay level 0 or not bothering to level up. In case you don't know, the only thing that count is compliant rating and you have to do 2 min rating to set it. What my lesson was that you just need a few good men. I spotted the right level 0 guy and got very useful info from him. And he was impressed with my network to talk with me. And the best girl I saw recently is a level 0.

Helper, screener, booker, agency, pimp, it's a very thin line. I thought she belongs to some HX agency or crew but I tried anyway. For better or for worse, I got invited to a more private setting. Whatever it is you don't call that an agency. And most of the k-agencies are disqualified as agencies. There's no reason to use an agency with all fake or unrealistic pictures. You go to a phone operator to see who's on his books hoping to hit the jackpot once a while.

If the k-girls $260/ hr is within your budget, I suggest doing half with the best of HX may be more fun and cost slightly less. The k-girls don't write down CIM P2 P on their menu to give them some discretion and save the bookers a lot of hassle. But many others do it and write it down too. One gorges blonde includes it even for half. One younger blonde charge a little extra. And 18 year old, 19, all do it.

Do you know that the other girls don't know what the k-girls do? Somebody has to tell them. A white high profile PSE was recently surprised to know that an average k-gril on HX is more PSE than her. Certainly, some must be younger and better looking than her. Like this white blonde teen model lookalike I just met, she played with my nipples and balls just like a k-girl.

OK, too many lessons, too little time. Maybe later.

[QUOTE=JamesD2004;3714090]So I navigate to this smaller high-end hotel that I don't know even existed in a very familiar central area. I arrived early and turned on one of the most popular webcam sites to watch a look-alike girl having her remote orgasm. Soon I got the room number and when I got there the door was already unlocked. I pushed the door and saw behind it exactly the girl in the picture....[/QUOTE]Your mailbox is full, so I'll ask publicly - please share this girl's information with me!

[QUOTE=JamesD2004;3708884]Very easy. Just be careful about the pictures overly exposed with a pretty face like a college girl and nothing much else. I didn't think enough because I probably mixed them up with another crew.

To response to another post, bait and switch have been rare for me in HX other than the K-girls. But the last 6 ft K-girl I met seemed to be doing very well; she never left.[/QUOTE]Mr. JD. I'd like to engage in a PM w you, but I read that you aren't available for inboxing. I haven't been active in this particular form of the hobby, but think you might have valuable local info / references. I can return the favor, to some extent. FarFarAway.

I just don't realize that my mailbox is full. But don't expect much from me. I come here to talk freely about HX so I don't have to disclose my handle and network. I don't want to hurt anybody's business particularly if she tried hard to please me. And I don't make direct recommendations; it may freak her out. Just play the HX game one way or another. If you see some overly exposed pictures, ask around her network. If you see a teen model looking blonde that passed her teen, ask around. Few charge way over $200 for half.

The tall k-girl I accidentally ran into changed booker twice and never left. She became the face of every "agency" she went. If I knew she would stay that long I would have enough time to make her my wife.

The teen blonde is so popular that when I asked to see her in the morning, she said fully booked for the whole day.

The model blonde comes here so often that she must be loading shoe boxes of cash when she goes back, for the price she charges. We have an arrangement that I don't even need to wait for her to turn up on HX to see her.

I've never walked out on a B&S but I haven't regretted it, mainly because it's usually a TGTBT situation that I take a chance on. I've actually had some experiences where they turn out to be the real deal, and wished I had took the dive sooner. One ATF who went by Teara comes to mind.

The ones that I felt cheated are the no makeup girls who look nothing like their photos without. First indication of low moral, and tends to be clock watchers. The attitude improve if you complement them enough sometimes, but it's a downer most of the time. You win some you lose some, but it's always fun to play.

[QUOTE=Loveandmoney;3708339]How many of you have walked on a bait and switch? I've been tricked 2-3 times and never walked out but I think that's a mistake. I should be kicking these girls to the curb when that happens so it doesn't happen to anyone else. It costs me time and money, I'm definitely not getting what I paid for. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]

I must know who this elusive short blonde is.

[QUOTE=JamesD2004;3714090]I know it is a good time to strike when the 666 beast came out. I bet many girls had zero days, particularly at the higher end. It just happened that I've been preparing for a hookup the whole week. I have been working out a lot, flossing between every tooth every day and brushed with my new active carbon whitening tooth powder. I couldn't say they all worked but they are totally worth it.

The highly recommended list that the level 0 guy gave me all came out this week. They are all on my radar anyway; now I'm going after them with a push. When most girls were gone by the end of the week and some changed their plans, I ended up with the last on the list. Why? She probably cost the most. That's why I hesitated without some encouragement. BTW, she has been around for a year or so, have a decent network and still level 0. I myself dropped back to level 0 once but I think Abbey somehow kept me up to stay in her club.

The booker remembered me and the girl he booked for me over a year ago. I saw her only once but I did try to see her again at the time but our schedule didn't work out. I like these guys better than the PO's of the k-girls. They are good but you don't feel like VIP. But for the price these other HX girls charges, everybody should be VIP.

So I navigate to this smaller high-end hotel that I don't know even existed in a very familiar central area. I arrived early and turned on one of the most popular webcam sites to watch a look-alike girl having her remote orgasm. Soon I got the room number and when I got there the door was already unlocked. I pushed the door and saw behind it exactly the girl in the picture.

Today I let my long fluffy hair down without gel, in my sagging pants rocking a pair of designer slippers.

She is a model in her mid-twenties. But she looked like a skinny teen model that I came for. By default, I prefer long hairs but her stylish short blonde won me over. She does know how to makeup, a lot better than the teens. She has a bit of colour on to compliment her pale skin but light enough to do body to body combat without worrying about smearing or coming off. Usually, you know what the makeup is trying to compensate but for her, I couldn't tell. She may be just as pretty without makeup but certainly more beautiful with something on.

Soon after I walked in, she DFK's me. And she never stopped! I tried to lighten the suction or looked at her to see if that's too much for her and we should go to the next stage. But she seemed to be in no rush to do anything else but kept kissing me, both standing up by the bed. Then I remembered to check her boobs; I was certain she had a great body but she didn't show her A / B cup in the pictures. I pulled down her top to review one of them. It was better than I could imagine. It was teen perky with pinkish responsive nipples. I have a theory that the A / B cups try to keep their top or bra on for longer. They will keep it on in bed if you let them. I just hold on to her breast and kept kissing with or without the tongue.

She didn't ask me to take a shower, no blue toast either. In between DFK we took off our clothes, I put my money on the table and asked her for a twirl of her naked model body for me to admire. Then I fed on her sitting on the bed while she stood up. I was as hungry as I was feeding on my 1st girlfriend.

I noticed her walking barefoot. But her feet looked clean and it was a high-end hotel. So I did her toes anyway. I didn't go all the way as the big one was very slightly salty. Her legs looked great and their texture passed my tongue test. When I was eating her, I felt that she wanted to cum. I don't know if it was real but she complimented my skills. But I was just vacuuming her pussy.

After the tension was over I signalled her to turn over. But she took on the doggie position. Her pinkish starfish looked great on her pale butt, teen great. So I mapped all the subtle and delicate star pattern with my tongue, occasionally probed a little deeper. Then I felt her pretty feet reaching for my cock; so I did a little feet job at the same time dinning at her o.

I lied down after doing her from toe to head. She is a typical white teen model but she fucked very much like a k-girl, except for the CIM. She took care of my nipples, shaft and balls. When she started something she wouldn't stop. I had to ask her to move on to the cowgirl. She had to sit down on the saddle very carefully and very slowly before I was fully in. She complimented my perfect size. I complimented her perfect pair and held on to them during the ride. When she could move fluently she bent down and DFK'ed me too.

After she warmed up, I wouldn't want any other position other than the DFK missionary. And she didn't disappoint. And we kissed and fucked until I cum. I wouldn't want to cum anywhere else when we were tongue to tongue. She caressed my back like a k-girl so I just lied on top of her. When I finally rolled over to sleep she just slipped into my arm and held me, until I kissed her forehead and got up to the bathroom to clean up.

And for all that I ended up paying less than a k-girl! Because I booked her for half hour. I think she might have mixed up that I booked for an hour. But it doesn't look like it as she was going for it at the beginning. No shower, no conversation. I know often bookers don't tell the girls how long the next client booked. If she doesn't ask and doesn't count the money there may be misunderstandings. I had that experience before; for the same girl, I changed from an hour to half or vice vera. Or maybe she wanted to get my first shot sooner and then wanted me to extend time. I would love to if I had the money and the stamina.

I was doing quite well compared to the k-girls. I had the full 30 minutes and maybe a little bit more. I might have DFK's her more in a half-hour than my last k-girl in an hour. For the looks, there's no comparison.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DuckDuckSuck;3730618]I must know who this elusive short blonde is.[/QUOTE]But why? Flatter catwalk model is a bit of an acquired taste. All the teens, except the overexposure crew, are pretty with all sort of hair color. I don't know if I turned into a swarn or what, LOL. A couple of years ago all the HX teens' DFK lasted for 2 seconds, tongue for one, if that's even on the menu. Recently, I don't even rememner which girl refused me DFK missionary. That include TWO Chinese girl in SGV central who are not supposed to and I didn't pay for. It dawned on me that the Chinese houses have been doing the same thing since the last millenium! Guan style in China is a new thing but the so called Guan style in SGV is trash; it is the same thing the Chinese girls have been doing all along. Nipple sucking, CBJ, cowgirl. Yes, that's it. If you survived that you can have missionary. What I didn't mention are all not done.

For DFK lovers please (: <3.

[QUOTE=JamesD2004;3732222]But why? [/QUOTE]