"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

Ok, so TB #2, has this great exotic look. She's a mix of Italian and something else. She's very pretty. She's 30 years old and has a slim torso and uber nice thick body. We had a great lunch date. She's had some setbacks towards getting date #2. But it seems to be on track. I gave her a little something for gas and she seemed to be very happy. I'll get to explore the goodies on the 2nd date.

TB #3. 28 year old, stunning African American beauty. 5'7, with a knockout body. Very experienced and very well spoken. I enjoyed the date. We discussed the framework for SD / SB and she was very reasonable. I could see already, I could get attached to her. No funds exchanged, we both agreed to a 2nd date. But I think I may have to make a commitment to actually explore the goodies.

TB #4 28 year 5'5 Caucasian woman. Again, very nice body, very very nice, if you like 'them shapely. Not fat at all, very shapely. Our first date almost ended in me tasting the goodies. She drove a long way for another reason, and I was a nice throw in. I gave her gas money, I gave her a bit more than what was needed. Although not the best practice. I really felt that it was appropriate and would get me further down the road. I may even have more to add to this story before she returns back to her area.

All in all, these come across as down to earth women, with more of a desire to be treated well and enjoy the company of a successful man. We'll see how this goes. Interesting, TB #1, already pushing the envelope with sugar. I refuse to give more sugar unless it's attached to "deep sea diving", but she has tried. I'm holding my ground.

TB #5 is a 36 year old Caucasian military woman. Have not had the first date. She lives states away, so this will mainly be online chatting, until it's exploration time.

TB #6 same as #5, except she's African American.

I'll keep you guys updated. So far, lots of opportunities, but so far, only one deep sea diving experience.

BigTigg

[QUOTE=Hernando; 1231346]It's funny how different everyone's experience is.

I am running from my MIDLF (mother I don't like to fuck) cause she's too old for me, but smart and horney as hell.

My HYB (hot young babe. 20's) is banging my brains out, wants to talk politics after, and is hotter than a firecracker to look at, feel, and sleep with. I actually wake up 6 times / night to stare at her luscious body.

YMMV of course[/QUOTE]Don't misunderstand me. I am not against the HYB. In fact the next one in my que is a 21 yr old. My statement was a generality, and all generalities break down in the particular. If you check my posts, you'll see that most of my SB's have been under 30 or close to it. CSB8 as MILF's go, has a banging body, a great attitude (which has only got better) , fucks me to exhaustion and is happy with the sugar. She'll stay in the rotation as long as she keeps that up. If that changes, or I get bored, (which ever happens first) she'll lose her spot. So far, so good.

I think the reason MILFs can be so satisfying is that they have a little age on them and so can better relate to a geezer monger. Many MILFs are looking for DILFs ("dads they like to *" etc.) In other words, fellow sb mongers, you can have a real relationship with them. This is good AND bad. You may get tangled. In fact you may wind up with a new SO.

On the other hand the HYB, inmo, offers the geezer female companionship of the purest kind unencumbered by serious conversation and a meaningful emotional entanglement, because she is just a kid in her brain. In other words a slippery vagina plus entertainment. A very different kind of relationship.

To each his own.

[QUOTE=Literal2;1230334]By the way, Nando, I believe Golfcart first identified this syndrome on this thread. It explains a good deal of undesirable sb behavior.[/QUOTE]That was me.

It's become a bit of a problem. I've had to pass on a couple of blondes because it might be her. I couldn't get enough information to exclude her as a possibility.

[QUOTE=Literal2; 1231824]I think the reason MILFs can be so satisfying is that they have a little age on them and so can better relate to a geezer monger. Many MILFs are looking for DILFs ("dads they like to *" etc.) In other words, fellow sb mongers, you can have a real relationship with them. This is good AND bad. You may get tangled. In fact you may wind up with a new SO.

On the other hand the HYB, inmo, offers the geezer female companionship of the purest kind unencumbered by serious conversation and a meaningful emotional entanglement, because she is just a kid in her brain. In other words a slippery vagina plus entertainment. A very different kind of relationship.

To each his own.[/QUOTE]The point is neither is better. It's like picking from a box of chocolates. Most of the choices are good. Some are great. Occasionally you get one you just don't like. That doesn't keep you from reaching back into the box. The HYB's tend to be of one flavor, the MILF's another. I'm going to keep reaching into that box because I don't know what flavor, or mix of flavors, I'm going to get. All I know is chocolate tastes really, really good.

[QUOTE=Coolhand2;1233517]The point is neither is better. It's like picking from a box of chocolates. Most of the choices are good. Some are great. Occasionally you get one you just don't like. That doesn't keep you from reaching back into the box. The HYB's tend to be of one flavor, the MILF's another. I'm going to keep reaching into that box because I don't know what flavor, or mix of flavors, I'm going to get. All I know is chocolate tastes really, really good.[/QUOTE]Ok you guys have me convinced. I'm going to start fishing in the HYB pool. Just hope I have the right bait. Right now a MILF is my favorite flavor, but one can't live on MILF alone can he?

[QUOTE=Magic Rat;1233744]Ok you guys have me convinced. I'm going to start fishing in the HYB pool. Just hope I have the right bait. Right now a MILF is my favorite flavor, but one can't live on MILF alone can he?[/QUOTE]Send the milfs my way-will take on all cummmmmers! Great thread here!

[QUOTE=Coolhand2;1233517]The point is neither is better. It's like picking from a box of chocolates. Most of the choices are good. Some are great. Occasionally you get one you just don't like. That doesn't keep you from reaching back into the box. The HYB's tend to be of one flavor, the MILF's another. I'm going to keep reaching into that box because I don't know what flavor, or mix of flavors, I'm going to get. All I know is chocolate tastes really, really good.[/QUOTE]Gents, here is a monger who knows what he's doing, and knows what he is talking about.

[QUOTE=Magic Rat;1233744]Ok you guys have me convinced. I'm going to start fishing in the HYB pool. Just hope I have the right bait. Right now a MILF is my favorite flavor, but one can't live on MILF alone can he?[/QUOTE]Rat: No, he cannot. A monger has hard wiring which necessitates variety in the pussies he spreads apart, or he may get sick.

Here is a Tech Advisory: Inmo, HYB's without offspring and live at home dads are unlikely to cling to a geezer. If you can bang them, they won't cling. HYB's with byproducts are as desperate as MILFs. This means good sex but after effects are to be expected, like $$ demands and even true romance. MILFs are always desperate for an S. O. So the sex is good usually but a geezer monger should expect complications.

I just finished fucking my 23 year old student with the tatoo inside her left thigh. HYB all the way. What a wonderful piece of ass. Young and juicy, her pussy self-lubricates like the mountain rapids. Do MILFs vaginas get as wet as HYBs? I think not.

[QUOTE=Literal2; 1234195]Rat: No, he cannot. A monger has hard wiring which necessitates variety in the pussies he spreads apart, or he may get sick.

Here is a Tech Advisory: Inmo, HYB's without offspring and live at home dads are unlikely to cling to a geezer. If you can bang them, they won't cling. HYB's with byproducts are as desperate as MILFs. This means good sex but after effects are to be expected, like $$ demands and even true romance. MILFs are always desperate for an S. O. So the sex is good usually but a geezer monger should expect complications.

I just finished fucking my 23 year old student with the tatoo inside her left thigh. HYB all the way. What a wonderful piece of ass. Young and juicy, her pussy self-lubricates like the mountain rapids. Do MILFs vaginas get as wet as HYBs? I think not.[/QUOTE]Wait a minute. We're talking about MILF's here; not post menopausal women who are as old as we are. I'll give you they may not be as tight; their bodies may not be as firm but I'll stack the amount of fluids my 41 yr old nurse puts out vs your 23 yr old any time. I'll even give you a head start. I'm not talking about sweat either. I'm talking about that wonderful elixir that only pussies can provide.

Now having said that I'm suppose to meet a new (new to me) 21 yr old SB tomorrow. I'm expecting tightness, firmness, and lots and lots of fluids. Continuing my new policy; SB number will not be assigned until thighs have opened.

This thread continues to be a fascinating read. I've now found three SB's on the site that also know as strippers. As discussed before, there is crossover in this category.

My current favorite SB is 35 years old and used to be a dancer but isn't any longer. I met her as a customer at a club and went from there. She is bi-sexual and we have a lot of fun going to clubs and trying to pick HYB's. She is very sexy with a hot body herself, but is old enough to be both comfortable and experienced in her sexuality.

We have a 23 year HYB set up to meet with us next week. It is amzing how many of these girls are bi and bringing another woman into the arrangement seems to put them at ease. God, I love womend.

Some of these comments and posts here are amusing. There needs to be a "tech advisory" for the SD's.

If you think these "young babes" are the only women who get wet, aroused, squirt, etc you'd be dead wrong. Women of various ages are capable of the same if not better. In case you didn't know, women don't get into their sexual prime until they're beyond the "young babe" stage.

I am still waiting on someone to say they actually met a girl for a LTR "arrangement" without having to use a website and without having to pay a girl cash money every time they see her. If you do it properly, you can reap the rewards of meeting her friends and she remains monogamous to you. If you need some pointers, let me know. .

[QUOTE=Literal2;1234195]Do MILFs vaginas get as wet as HYBs? I think not.[/QUOTE]

I just joined SD4ME, inspired by this discussion. I live in Las Vegas, which is a weird town for escorting. Two tiers, the DDG types for the traveling high rollers who somehow don't know they can get an escort where they live. Then there's the local economy with 15% unemployment; many escorts are flakes, upsells and robs. The clients don't have the dough to support them.

Anyway, on SB4Me; is it suggested to get "Total Access" so all the women can receive posts? Or is standard silver / gold level sufficient?

[QUOTE=Richmond Fotog; 1234919]Some of these comments and posts here are amusing. There needs to be a "tech advisory" for the SD's.

If you think these "young babes" are the only women who get wet, aroused, squirt, etc you'd be dead wrong. Women of various ages are capable of the same if not better. In case you didn't know, women don't get into their sexual prime until they're beyond the "young babe" stage.

I am still waiting on someone to say they actually met a girl for a LTR "arrangement" without having to use a website and without having to pay a girl cash money every time they see her. If you do it properly, you can reap the rewards of meeting her friends and she remains monogamous to you. If you need some pointers, let me know. .[/QUOTE]Some of the comments and posts here are supposed to be amusing, Fotog. That's the point. We're talking about pussies, orgasms, hard young bodies, finding girls, seducing girls, multifucking, categorizing sugarbabies and so on. It's supposed to be fun, and a lot of it is informative as well. You aren't supposed to take it 100% seriously. Nobody claims its the only way to go. If you think MILFs squirt further than HYBs, fine. We'd be interested to hear your views.

If you want someone to say "they actually met a girl for a LTR "arrangement" without having to use a website *" etc, why don't you say it yourself? It doesn't sound unusual to me and if you've done something like that once or a dozen times and want to talk about it, go ahead.

In fact, I encourage everybody who wants to learn from Fotog to contact him and get the benefit of his experience.

As for me, I'm continuing to have fun with my sbs and find the relationships satisfactory. But I thank you for your offer.

I do have a request, Fotog:

I would prefer it, and I believe there are others who would also prefer it, if you would make your posts on this thread without the contemptuous and condescending tone. Otherwise, what is currently a rather lighthearted and mutually supportive discussion will degenerate rapidly.

[QUOTE=Richmond Fotog;1234919]If you do it properly, you can reap the rewards of meeting her friends and she remains monogamous to you. If you need some pointers, let me know. .[/QUOTE]I think this means Fotog has done this.

While I don't want to discourage pms to Fotog, I would like to say that several mongers have posted checklists on this thread re how to find and fuck girls from the sb sites and also the AM site.

If Fotog is willing to post how to do it, it would be really interesting to read how to meet a girl "for a LTR "arrangement" without having to use a website and without having to pay a girl cash money every time they see her" and "reap the rewards of meeting her friends and she remains monogamous to you."

Over to you Fotog. Your constructive and informative posts are welcome.