2000-2004 Archived Reports

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Slim
[i]Have had a hard time getting over to OT to check out the new girls, last week the wife got frisky and I actually got my bi-annual BJ so I was good for awhile.[/i][/QUOTE]

And then they wonder why we hobby. Ever seen the movie "*****"? At one point, the leading lady says something like "If they're not sticking it in their wife's mouth, they're sticking it someone else's." How true.

[QUOTE][i]I took Joanne and had the usual time. Tried the backdoor, but P&G must be special because she said "oh, I never do that!". Allowed play though.[/i][/QUOTE]

I don't know whether to feel special or not. My first visit to OT was with Joanne and she gave it up to me without any special ceremony (read: bargaining). I just played with it a little during the massage, put a little oil there later and she never said anything about it as I banged away. Maybe I wore her out ;)

[QUOTE][i]Still an okay time, but wasted my monthly visit and didn't get to see anything new. Bummer.[/i][/QUOTE]

Maybe it'll get better if they see you a couple times. Only once a month? Man, you are much more disciplined than I :)

Just had my second and final session with Angie at OT. After tonight I would have to rank Kay ahead of her. No GFE at all, very rushed, and all about the money.

I was hoping to sample the other new girl but apparently there is no other girl. The place seemed to be busy and maybe she was having a hard day with everyone declining Kay but she won't be getting anymore business from me.

I'll put in another plug for Joanna, she has always treated me well and now I know the grass isn't greener.

I was recently on business in SD and had the opportunity to cruise ECB. For the most part SD is essentially dead. I saw a few girls out, but very poor quality and I didn't waste my time.

However, I did witness a sting in progress and had the chance to watch the scum in action, and thought I would share my observations. Keep in mind how the cops operate in SD may not be the same in your area, but it does seem to be the case here. I also spoke to a fellow hobbyist, and he confirmed and added a few details beyond what I saw which I will also include here.

This sting happened Wednesday afternoon around 2 pm. It was being done in front of a run down motel 1 block east of Texas street on the north side of ECB. I saw this woman (decoy) standing on the corner. She was blonde, and dressed in sweats and tennis shoes. She is fairly good looking, better looking than the other girls further up on ECB that were true hookers. She was staying on the corner, unlike the other girls that were constantly walking up and down the blvd. She was fairly aggressively making eye contact and waving at guys. When the guys would pull to the curb she would go the driver's side of the car and talk to the guys. This is something NONE of the other girls would do. They usually just jump into the passenger seat without much discussion. (I have seen this several times). I saw several guys drive away after talking to her.

I was kind of suspicious so I did not approach her, although I did cruise around her area a couple of times and parked across the street on the other side of ECB to watch what was going on. At one point, it seemed that some guy had agreed to something and he pulled into the alley behind the motel. The girl walked up the block a little and disappeared in a adjacent parking lot. This seemed REALLY strange to me, so I start drive down, looked through the parking lot and sure enough, the guy was being arrested by SD's worst. There were 3 or 4 cops, one of them was talking to the girl. I drove around the block and there she was again on the same corner. The cop car was gone as was the guy. His car was parked in the parking lot.

After this I drove around just to see what would happen. After another arrest, another girl showed up on the corner, this time brunette with similar clothing. I didn't get a real good look as I decided to get the hell out of there.

A couple things can be learned from this, although some of us have learned this, it is worth repeating.

1. If the girl looks even marginally too good for what else is on the street, be VERY cautious. The blonde definitely looked better than the other girsl, I couldn't tell with the brunette.
2. Street girls, keep walking and do not stay in one place. These bitches were staying on the same corner.
3. The decoys were not as overtly dressed as other girls. You can't necessarily guarantee anything by this, but it should be a warning sign to be cautious.
4. The decoys NEVER got into the cars. This means if the girl refuses to get in, leave immediately. Make sure you NEVER, EVER discuss anything about money or activities until she is in the car and you have driven at least a block or two!!!! Those bitches wear wires and are recording every conversation. If you mention something even if you drive away you can and will be arrested (according to my new found buddy).
5. The street girls have become very discreet and leery. They will never overtly flag you down. They might be dressed as ******, but they won't act like they are trying to flag you down. If you see this, be very careful. It is probably a trap.
6. If you think you smell a trap, hang back and observe from a safe distance. Either cruise around the block at uneven intervals or park. Cops can't stop you for being in a legally parked car. Watch what is going on. If the girl who stays on a corner gets in the car, watch to see what happens. You may even want to drive the same general direction for a block or two just to make sure that no cops or flashing lights suddenly appear.
7. Drive around the general area and look for cop cars or side streets and alley ways where a bust could go down. This might help in trying to see if a fellow hobbyist gets nailed. It will most often be away from main view, but not far from the area the decoy is at. The cops don't want to be to far from the decoy in case the decoy gets into trouble and to prove the guys intent when he pulls into a driveway or alley way as she told him to. According to my friend, all the cops have to show for an arrest is intent and intent is indicated by doing what she indicates like "pull into the alley and I will meet you".
8. If by chance the girl is legit, albeit stupid by not walking around, and she drives away with a friendly competitor, don't worry, she will probably be back in a little while. There still may be other street options, or better yet, just wait until she gets back (20-50mins later).
9. If you are uncertain about a girl and there are no other real girls in the area where you might have seen some prior, be really careful. According to my friend the cops will clear out the general area of real girls to make sure the only alternative is the decoy (scum!). So if they disappear or there isn't an alternative be very very careful.
10. It may be worth cruising the street semi regularly to get a sense of who might be street girls. I cruised both Tuesday and Wednesday afternoons and saw the same 4 girls on both days - being picked up and coming back. None of them were worth the effort. The blond decoy I had never seen so while 2 days hardly constitutes being an expert, it did make me concerned.
11. Finally, be aware of your surroundings and what is going on around you. Don't do something supid while driving that will attract attention or worse yet, give the cops reason to pull you over. Be sure to watch in front, in back and on your sides. Always know where all the cars are and notice any weird movement that might be a cop. Again the key is cruise safely and don't give the cops any reason to pull you over. In case they do, make sure you have a good story.

Hope none of you got caught!! Hopefully these tips will help. Good luck, until I am back in SD on business!

aht169,

Great post. Keep 'em coming!

Jackson,

If you're watching, maybe this post should be elevated to an FAQ or something recurring so that it doesn't get buried over time.

[QUOTE]
2. Street girls, keep walking and do not stay in one place. These bitches were staying on the same corner. [/i][/QUOTE]

I think this is an EXCELLENT observation. I noticed the same thing watching COPS, or something similar. The police have to keep their decoy under surveillance, so she stands still or walks back and forth in a small area.

Real SW walk, that's what the W stands for!

ATH169, thanks for the GREAT post.

aht169

Excellent report.

I must say in all my years and years of mongering and experience, I have yet to be arrested. Been hassled a few times, but never arrested. Forgive me for saying so, but only an absolute FOOL, gets caught buying or paying for sex! If you're stupid enough to get caught by a decoy, I personally think you deserve it.

That being said, I take it one step further, when I know a decoy has been set (and there usually very easy to spot) I'll often approach them on foot and harass them, by being overly friendly. Walk up to them and start a general "how's the weather conversation." "What do you think about them Padres" You get the idea. I have in the past frustrated the hell out of decoys and the police running them, just play dumb, give them a little back. This lets them know they should be using OUR tax dollars to fight real crime. I truly have nothing against LE except for this issue, it's the world's oldest trade and is so for a reason.

"MEN NEED SEX, WE CANNOT FUNCTION WITHOUT IT, PERIOD! WE MUST HAVE SEX AND WILL DO ANYTHING INCLUDING PAYING OR TRADING FOR IT, EVEN COPS, ANY COP WHO ARRESTS ANOTHER MAN FOR SIMPLY SOLICITING FOR SEX IS ACTING OUT AS A HYPOCRITE!" We are all mongers!

I hate this BS act that these cops put on acting as if they are better then thou because, God forbid, they would never engage in this sort of activity. On a business trip to Vegas two years ago, I hung out with an old High school buddy who was a cop, he was attending a bachelor party weekend, mostly all cops, every last one of these guys paid for sex! i was there, i watched and learned, they are no better, nor, no worse then me. sex is sex, we all want it, we all need it, its natural, normal activity, a true gift of life and enforcing laws prohibiting two consensual adults from engaging in sex for $ is simply wrong and a waste of time@!
gettingtang2003@yahoo.com

[QUOTE]Originally posted by gettingtang
[i]That being said, I take it one step further, when I know a decoy has been set (and there usually very easy to spot) I'll often approach them on foot and harass them, by being overly friendly. Walk up to them and start a general "how's the weather conversation." "What do you think about them Padres" You get the idea. I have in the past frustrated the hell out of decoys and the police running them, just play dumb, give them a little back.[/i][/QUOTE]

LOL You give new meaning to the term wingman.

aht169

The cops have conducted stings at the motel east of Texas before, so beware. Although I did drop a off a real hooker there a while back. But just beware this tells you that the owners of the hotel are not prostitute friendly.

". Drive around the general area and look for cop cars or side streets and alley ways where a bust could go down. This might help in trying to see if a fellow hobbyist gets nailed. It will most often be away from main view, but not far from the area the decoy is at. The cops don't want to be to far from the decoy in case the decoy gets into trouble and to prove the guys intent when he pulls into a driveway or alley way as she told him to. According to my friend, all the cops have to show for an arrest is intent and intent is indicated by doing what she indicates like "pull into the alley and I will meet you". "

There is a state intent to solicit law. But I don't believe the cops enforce it. Cities like Oakland & Sacramento have enacted a civil
"intentl to solicit law". The cops have used this against girls whom are known prostitutes. The cops in San Diego are usually pretty low key. Most of the time they patrol officers usually pass through. On weekends the cops do step up enforcement and stop a lot cars especially gangbangers.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by hargow20
[i]On weekends the cops do step up enforcement and stop a lot cars especially gangbangers. [/i][/QUOTE]

Something that's always puzzled me and I was wondering if any lawyers in the crowd could explain how cops can do this kind of thing since it seems like a violation of search and seizure rights. I mean, they are just stopping cars at random (or all cars) without any reason other than their intuition. Same goes for DUI checkpoints.

I had a daydream about going to OT. I went something like this:

Late last week I found myself at OT. There were no "other girls" available just Joanne and Kay. I knew Kay well and decided to follow the path of other dreamers experiences and went with Joanne.

IMHO Kay is *MUCH* more attractive than Joanne. Kay's attitude and performance was *MUCH* better than Joanne. There was no bbbj or greek on the menu. Joanne was flexible and went with the flow most of the time as did Kay in previous dreams I had.

Bottom line I woke up regretting not going with Kay in my dream. What is the reason for the praise of Joanne over Kay amongst you dreamers? Am I missing something?

I will sleep again soon in hopes of dreaming up one of the new girls but right now Kay is #1 in my dream journal...

Any comments, explanations, shared dreams or friendly debates are welcome..

TiredD

Tired,

I think Kay and JoAnne will be liked/disliked differently by each person. Isn't YMMV the theme of this board?

There is no clear winner here. Both are fairly old although I think Kay us older. Kay's face is MUCH better, and she is thinner (almost too thin), but those fake boobs give me the willies.

I've seen Kay where she was quite wild and where she just kind of laid there and expected me to do all the work. JoAnne is more consistant with performance, she usually aims to please, but I've even had so-so sessions with her.

In both cases, I think the more you go and get to know them, the better the sessions become.

- Slim

how old are kay and joanne? approximate is fine. i plan to take one of them for a test drive this weekend.

I hate guessing, I'm bad at it. I would guess both are over 40, Kay may approach 50. You can only tell the age in their face though, like most asians, their bodies could easily pass for 10+ years younger than they are. Guys...correct me if you think I'm wrong. - Slim

Has anyone had any luck at the Kia Spa? I have not been there in a year or so but I do remember it was great back then.

Claptop... not much more than a rub-n-tug. Old and tired workers. It was better when Suzie was there but I don't think shes been around for over a year and a half. She was great to hang with (no pun intended).

TD

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Claptop
[i]Has anyone had any luck at the Kia Spa? I have not been there in a year or so but I do remember it was great back then. [/i][/QUOTE]