[QUOTE=NYCkid;6505179]This guy must be delusional in thinking he can turn a hoe in to a housewife type. She's an addict and they will say anything or do anything to get what they want.[/QUOTE]I know how to handle one. This not my first rodeo.
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[QUOTE=NYCkid;6505179]This guy must be delusional in thinking he can turn a hoe in to a housewife type. She's an addict and they will say anything or do anything to get what they want.[/QUOTE]I know how to handle one. This not my first rodeo.
[QUOTE=PhillyChris86;6521593]Watch out for this one. Started messaging with her, exchanged numbers, started talking. She seemed cool, no signs of anything weird, drug use, etc. We set up a date. The night before the day we're supposed to meet she gives me some sob story and says she needs $30. Honestly, I sent it just to see what she would do. Partially I did feel she was legit, but a part of me isn't scared to lose a small amount just to see the full picture. Better than walking into a potentially sketchy situation. So I send the $30.
[/QUOTE]People like you are part of the problem. I'm not "scared to lose" 30 bucks or even a full PPM, but the scammers are only out there because people like you give them money. No legit SB can't manage to make it to a coffee date without your 30 bucks. Quit feeding the scammers.
[QUOTE=SdPhilly;6523023]People like you are part of the problem. I'm not "scared to lose" 30 bucks or even a full PPM, but the scammers are only out there because people like you give them money. No legit SB can't manage to make it to a coffee date without your 30 bucks. Quit feeding the scammers.[/QUOTE]That's the issue. Dudes don't seem to care. Paying for M&G. Sending money. Paying desperate rates for mid women. Look I push the envelope when doing things. I Emphasize to the girls you want a positive experience that can be repeated. Then don't push the money or you will just be a pro to most of the guys. I don't push the sex either as you come off like some creepy dude. I push on just meeting and going from there.
I don't care if they want 100 to 1000. Even super hot girls that want 500 plus. Can be banging multiple dudes in a day and be more of a pro then the girl who content with a couple Benjamins.. yeah it does take some work. But if everyone stopped throwing money out there and was a little smarter. It would be a lot earlier to find the gems
[QUOTE=SdPhilly;6523023]People like you are part of the problem. I'm not "scared to lose" 30 bucks or even a full PPM, but the scammers are only out there because people like you give them money. No legit SB can't manage to make it to a coffee date without your 30 bucks. Quit feeding the scammers.[/QUOTE]You're way to upset and too quick to place the blame for every scammer on a single hobbyist. I said not being scared to lose $30 was one single factor in my decision to send it. I also clearly stated that everything leading up to that was legit. Furthermore, nowhere in that entire post did I ever say I wasn't scared to lose an entire PPM amount. You literally just made that up.
To top it all off, if I hadn't given her that small amount of money and reported the events afterward, guys on here would be booking dates with her and walking into a potential cash and dash or dangerous situation. Sometimes the best way to weed out a scammer is to prove it and report it to everyone. Thank me for my service and move on.
[QUOTE=SamKatz;6523204]
If you guys go the BBFS route just remember to proceed with caution fellas! My buddy caught the Herp while out in Thailand being a drunken horny monger which was a huge part of a nasty divorce when he got back yea no need to share the details. But Thailand is not exactly clean and well organized like AMPs here but still we all know the risks even with LEO. Just wanted to let ya'll know incase you don't (I know the mongers that's been around a while all know) that these AMP girls tells you they get tested every week or few weeks monthly whatever. Unfortunately they don't and it's a lie. I know this for a fact through my time in the AMP game) I wish they would get tested weekly now that things went bare though but it is what it is. I just asked the girl I know right now and she replied "don't I need to have health insurance or be a citizen?" Sigh. Not knowing it's free in most states and in Philly as well so I'm guessing they don't know and just don't bother because she said her roommates said the same thing and get tested usually when they go back to Korea for a bit before leaving again to come back to work in the states.
Happy Hunting Everybody!
Sam Katz aka AMPimp.[/QUOTE]The incidence rate of HSV-2 is nearly 16% in women ages 14-49 in the USA. And with an estimate of 87% infected have no clinical diagnosis. So what are the risks of catching HSV-2 infection in that girl you pick up at the bar last night? Or a girl you are dating?
[I][b]How common is genital herpes?[/b]
Genital herpes infection is common in the United States. CDC estimated that there were 572,000 new genital herpes infections in the United States in a single year.1 Nationwide, 11.9 % of persons aged 14 to 49 years have HSV-2 infection (12.1% when adjusted for age).2 However, the prevalence of genital herpes infection is higher than that because an increasing number of genital herpes infections are caused by HSV-1. 3 Oral HSV-1 infection is typically acquired in childhood; because the prevalence of oral HSV-1 infection has declined in recent decades, people may have become more susceptible to contracting a genital herpes infection from HSV-1. 4
HSV-2 infection is more common among women than among men; the percentages of those infected during 2015-2016 were 15.9% versus 8.2% respectively, among 14 to 49 year olds. (2) This is possibly because [b][color=red]genital infection is more easily transmitted from men to women than from women to men during penile-vaginal sex.[/color][/b] (5) HSV-2 infection is more common among non-Hispanic blacks (34.6%) than among non-Hispanic whites (8.1%). (2) A previous analysis found that these disparities, exist even among persons with similar numbers of lifetime sexual partners. Most infected persons may be unaware of their infection; [b]in the United States, an estimated 87.4% of 14 to 49 year olds infected with HSV-2 have never received a clinical diagnosis.[/b] 6
The age-adjusted percentage of [color=red]persons in the United States infected with HSV-2 decreased from 18.0% in 19992000 to 12.1% in 2015-2016.[/color] (2)[/I]
[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/std/herpes/stdfact-herpes-detailed.htm[/URL]
[I][b] Genital Herpes Transmission Risk by Gender[/b]
About 12% of people aged 14 to 49 in the United States (around 18 million) have genital herpes. The risk of genital herpes can differ depending on gender and sexual orientation.
The following are relevant findings pertaining to genital herpes transmission risk: (3)
* Women are more likely to have genital herpes. This might be because it is easier for the virus to transmit from a man to a woman via penile-vaginal sex. (1)
* [b]About 16% of women aged 14 to 49 have genital herpes.[/b]
* For men aged 14 to 49, the rate of genital herpes is about 8%.
* The rate of genital herpes among men who have sex with men is about 16% to 28%, depending on ethnicity. Rates are higher among nonwhite men, and studies say this is likely because of less access to health care and higher poverty rates.4
* Rates of herpes transmission were lower among gay women (about 2% to 7%) than among bisexual women (about 15% to 17%) (5)[/I]
[URL]https://www.verywellhealth.com/genital-herpes-transmission-what-are-the-odds-5496285[/URL]
That said, there is are NO STDs out there, that with medical attention, will KILL you! All are either treatable or manageable as chronic conditions.
But I get it, most people get their education on STDs from less than credible sources and allow fear and uncertainty to rule their thought / decision making process.
Most recent Philly statistics table. Note rates are in # per 100,000. So a reported number 1,234 is really 1. 234%.
[URL]https://hip.phila.gov/document/2076/2020_STD_Tables_Complete.xls.pdf/[/URL]
I don't believe your assessment is correct. Once a red flag goes up, doesn't matter if it is beginning, middle, or towards the end, the scammer is exposed. Not a lot of red flags are as big as asking for a deposit. Those mongers that choose to RTFF will see the lady asked for a deposit and is a scammer. I don't need to know that she asked and then RECEIVED the deposit to not talk with her. One red flag is enough for me to say next.
You fed the habit and positively reinforced it and made the scam profitable to her. You are definitely part of the few who ruin it for the many. Not trying to pick a fight, just giving my opinion and politely asking to not feed the habits of scammers. It does a disservice to the board.
Be Safe.
[QUOTE=PhillyChris86;6523628]You're way to upset and too quick to place the blame for every scammer on a single hobbyist. I said not being scared to lose $30 was one single factor in my decision to send it. I also clearly stated that everything leading up to that was legit. Furthermore, nowhere in that entire post did I ever say I wasn't scared to lose an entire PPM amount. You literally just made that up.
To top it all off, if I hadn't given her that small amount of money and reported the events afterward, guys on here would be booking dates with her and walking into a potential cash and dash or dangerous situation. Sometimes the best way to weed out a scammer is to prove it and report it to everyone. Thank me for my service and move on.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PhillyChris86;6523628]You're way to upset and too quick to place the blame for every scammer on a single hobbyist. [/QUOTE]It slowly adds up though. Even if they get 1 person, that means they will get another and continue to scam.
[QUOTE=PhillyChris86;6523628]I said not being scared to lose $30 was one single factor in my decision to send it.[/QUOTE]But that's the factor that matters to them and perpetuates it happening over and over. In essence, it's the only factor that ACTUALLY matters.
[QUOTE=PhillyChris86;6523628]To top it all off, if I hadn't given her that small amount of money and reported the events afterward, guys on here would be booking dates with her and walking into a potential cash and dash or dangerous situation. Sometimes the best way to weed out a scammer is to prove it and report it to everyone. Thank me for my service and move on.[/QUOTE]All you had to do was report that she wanted the 30 for a sob story before even meeting and other people could have made their own decisions on what. You encouraging scammers like this isn't a "service".
[QUOTE=PhillyChris86;6523628]You're way to upset and too quick to place the blame for every scammer on a single hobbyist. I said not being scared to lose $30 was one single factor in my decision to send it. I also clearly stated that everything leading up to that was legit. Furthermore, nowhere in that entire post did I ever say I wasn't scared to lose an entire PPM amount. You literally just made that up.
To top it all off, if I hadn't given her that small amount of money and reported the events afterward, guys on here would be booking dates with her and walking into a potential cash and dash or dangerous situation. Sometimes the best way to weed out a scammer is to prove it and report it to everyone. Thank me for my service and move on.[/QUOTE]You're obviously not very bright so I'll try to use small words for you.
No one blamed you for "every scammer. " I pointed out that if there weren't idiots out there handing out money to these scammers, then they'd be wasting their time and they wouldn't be there bothering the rest of us.
I also didn't say that *you* weren't afraid to losea PPM. I would imagine that someone of your intelligence makes minimum wage, so I wouldn't expect you to be able to waste that kind of money. I said that I am not afraid of losing a PPM. What I don't like losing is time, and so I would really appreciate it if people like you would just sit and home and jerk off without handing money to scammers who clog up Seeking thinking the rest of us might be as dumb as you.
And, no, you didn't do "service" for the rest of us, because the rest of us aren't retarded enough to send money to some dude in China pretending to be a woman.
Maybe you should try learning from someone who actually knows how to do this and you might actually get something for your money.
[QUOTE=SdPhilly;6524126]You're obviously not very bright so I'll try to use small words for you.
No one blamed you for "every scammer. " I pointed out that if there weren't idiots out there handing out money to these scammers, then they'd be wasting their time and they wouldn't be there bothering the rest of us.
I also didn't say that *you* weren't afraid to losea PPM. I would imagine that someone of your intelligence makes minimum wage, so I wouldn't expect you to be able to waste that kind of money. I said that I am not afraid of losing a PPM. What I don't like losing is time, and so I would really appreciate it if people like you would just sit and home and jerk off without handing money to scammers who clog up Seeking thinking the rest of us might be as dumb as you.
And, no, you didn't do "service" for the rest of us, because the rest of us aren't retarded enough to send money to some dude in China pretending to be a woman.[/QUOTE]I wasn't responding to the idea that someone giving a scammer money might make them hang around. That's common sense. I admitted it was a mistake immediately, that was the point of the post. My reply was to your smug and overly reactive response. Once again, smug, angry, overly reactive, and zero clue what the fuck you're talking about.
Let's get facts straight. The girl was real, we exchanged voice messages for days. Once again, I mentioned that everything appeared above board in my original post. Furthermore, she came back crying, lying, and attempting to salvage the situation because she saw my bank account balance. Doesn't sound like minimum wage to me, but it does sound like there were multiple parts of my post you didn't have the ability to read. Meanwhile, everyone else is a retard apparently.
I'm open to learning from anyone who knows what they're talking about, not once did I ever say I wasn't. My point was I made the mistake, I owned it, and posted it as a warning. Your ONLY point was to be an angry, smug, condescending cocksucker. You literally said not one thing everyone here wasn't already aware of. You taught absolutely zero lessons.
A few more facts: I don't give a shit about losing a PPM. That doesn't mean I risk it unnecessarily. That sounds like the action of a retard. You can clearly tell by my proficiency in English that your comments about how much smarter you are were completely unhinged from reality. You think you're in some special class of people who understand the value of time over money, some special club where nobody else is privy to this sacred knowledge?? LOL. That's weird, you think exchanging 4 texts and then blocking someone costs more time than setting up a meet, going to a location, and having your money stolen. Not sure how math works in your universe. Good day, Sir.
LOL $30. I'd be infinitely more bugged at lost time and points.
As you said with modern Rx, overcoming isn't the issue. I imagine divorce is worse then the disease itself.
[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6523751]The incidence rate of HSV-2 is nearly 16% in women ages 14-49 in the USA. And with an estimate of 87% infected have no clinical diagnosis. So what are the risks of catching HSV-2 infection in that girl you pick up at the bar last night? Or a girl you are dating?
[I][b]How common is genital herpes?[/b]
Genital herpes infection is common in the United States. CDC estimated that there were 572,000 new genital herpes infections in the United States in a single year.1 Nationwide, 11.9 % of persons aged 14 to 49 years have HSV-2 infection (12.1% when adjusted for age).2 However, the prevalence of genital herpes infection is higher than that because an increasing number of genital herpes infections are caused by HSV-1.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PhillyDiscreet;6525800]As you said with modern Rx, overcoming isn't the issue. I imagine divorce is worse then the disease itself.[/QUOTE]The divorce was very ugly I remember and my buddy ONLY got tested by sheer luck. He met some Americans at the bar and bought some real Viagras off them since everything in the country was fake and one of the guys told him he should get tested if he was over around a certain area because he got it there himself. There was a huge 0% chance of my friend getting tested if not for meeting them guys. Nobody thinks they going to get it and tons don't even know they do have it.
He eventually would've gave the herp to his wife and yeah. The ugliness would've multiplied 1000 fold. He's now dating a woman with the same problem but still Shampoos research stats are pretty scary. 16% of women 14-49? Yeesh! That's why I hope AMPs all don't start offering the rawdog special but it is what it is and green always wins at the end especially with Korean businesses. It's a dirty game and even back in the day a popular AMP was shut down due to another AMP struggling to get any clients. That one shill thought he knew it all until what Sam said exactly happened.
Anyhoe, thanks for the stats Shampoo, and it is ignorance and denial. The few times I went raw with an AMP girl and regular girls I also thought nothing of it and had no thought of getting tested whatsoever. It's crazy to know if a girl is seeing 100 mongers and DATY and they are all bareback bears statistically in time all it takes is one bad fish. Yikes! But everyone here are grown ups and make decisions all knowing the risks.
The monger once said "Even a jimmyhat can't save you from the herp!
Happy and Safe Hunting Guys!
Sam Katz aka AMPimp.
[QUOTE=KCesar68;6551674]Beauty's subjective. While I would certainly prefer for her to offer a lower rate, I like giant tits like hers and she's not super ugly or anything. At least not on the outside. Just because you don't want to spend that much doesn't mean I won't or can't. I'd rather her than many of the addicts or ex-addicts from STG and so on. The extra money is in the comfort knowing she's not some druggie that's going to mug or rob me.
Yeah I did.
My question was if anyone meet up or if she even follows through on appointments.
She has a booking form and I filled it and had texted her as well. No I wasn't "entitled" or "controlling" Are you sure you're guessing? Cause that "I could be 100% off" doesn't do anything make you look like less of a presumptuous.
Nope. This isn't the SB / SD forums. When escorts, especially the ones that want to be very professional, and she has a twitter / site / tryst and PD ads, do this they obviously wouldn't want to lose a potential client especially since you know so many guys flake out or change their minds when deposits come into play. Least she can do is let someone know she's booked but would like to meet on a separate trip. She even on her own ads says "if same day, try to book before X time" and I'm not even looking for same day or can wait. It's gone way past that.
Who negotiates with escorts on eros / tryst? That's just begging to get ignored. Either you can or you can't. I don't go around pestering women who want 7 $$ because I know that's not a realistic transaction for me. My strategy isn't to look like a cheapskate.
So you literally just contradicted your own last sentence. Why negotiate if it's her prerogative and already on her site / ad?
The issue isn't haggling or anything. I just don't get a reply for essentially zero reason after multiple trips to this area (she's from Pittsburgh it seems) despite fulfilling her requests of using her booking form or an email asking if I filled it out wrong and to hopefully clarify for a meet, because, you know, that's literally her instructions.
Wow. What words of wisdom. Congrats on discovering what literally every other guy on here has found out as well.
Yeah, don't come in here accusing me of being controlling and acting condescending then try to cap it off with that fake cordialness. Kick rocks.[/QUOTE]OMFG! A line by line "defense" of your post based on my comments? SERIOUSLY?
I was only trying to help and you let some comments on a Prostitution website get your knickers all in a twist such that you had to defend your anon moniker?
But hey, from your defensiveness and approach on your response it sure is clear that you have some sort of "personality" traits. They came out in your reply to me, so no doubt a girl who is use to dealing with dudes everyday, all day, picked up on it too!
Good luck with that!
Yeah, you are a douchebag!
Jim Croce would love you. As you are a slow learner.
[I]You don't tug on Superman's cape You don't spit into the wind You don't pull the mask off that old Lone Ranger[/I]
Enjoy your wet shoes!
[QUOTE=BeefNoodleSoup;6553167]There's really no point arguing with shampoo. He just repeats his nonsense over and over. And starts fights with everyone.
He's from delaware but everyone on the delaware forum hate him. He uses the philly forum to talk about bs but I don't think he even mongers in philly. I have not seen any evidence that he does anything in philly.[/QUOTE]Thank you HeadFullofNoodles! I knew I could count on you to be my No. 1 HATER! I just don't get why you don't give up, don't you have enough wet shoes already?
Your premise is WAY off. Not EVERYONE hates me, only those with low IQs that get jealous of someone more vocal than they.
But hey, if you really wanted to shut me up, perhaps you would take over helping the HUGE number of newbies that are starting to post here. Oh wait! You aren't capable!
So keep on hating and having a continued 'hard-on' for me. You must be partly Homosexual!
[QUOTE=Shampoo55;6553257]Thank you HeadFullofNoodles! I knew I could count on you to be my No. 1 HATER! I just don't get why you don't give up, don't you have enough wet shoes already?
Your premise is WAY off. Not EVERYONE hates me, only those with low IQs that get jealous of someone more vocal than they.
But hey, if you really wanted to shut me up, perhaps you would take over helping the HUGE number of newbies that are starting to post here. Oh wait! You aren't capable!
So keep on hating and having a continued 'hard-on' for me. You must be partly Homosexual![/QUOTE]I am your number 1 hater. Then there are hundreds after me. Please go away!