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The game has changed
This was suppose to be a reply to someone off the the escort forum but I'd rather post it here so here goes.
I remember going to one of my favorite nightclubs in Baltimore off of Guildford Avenue next to a diner. I was such a young and energetic boy; very naive in what the future will bring me. Back then, my pick up game was really good, never left the club without a phone number from a pretty girl. One day, That same nightclub off of Guildford Ave shut down because some 14 year old punk sold weed to an undercover cop in front of the establisment. So instead of the cop arresting the teen, he came up to the owner of that club and told him to shut it down.
Meanwhile and no offense to you gentlemen, the gentleman's club in E Baltimore Street is still in Buisness when they had so many incidents including having minors dance at these clubs. Yet The City of Baltimore wants to close down a nightclub because a teen wants to sell drugs to the wrong person? To add insult to injury, the BDSM club off of route one is STILL in buisness?
Sure, I can always go to another nightclub like the one on market place or Fells point. Yet with the rise of tinder and woman being more skeptical about their surroundings in an environment like the party scene, it's not even worth it anymore.
I started USSG back in 2015 as a means to shout talents off of the Wilkens Circle (no luck). I was also at the age where I should start getting serious with getting a GF. Lets be real gentlemen, we would rather pay for intimacy over a fine-and-dine with some braud who is going to bill you 200 while bragging about her ex boyfriend and all other kinds of drama in her life.
Its 2020, times has change, so has the nightclub (which will be extinct), the dating game and even in this lifestyle.
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You know who you are
So, I'm going to post this because I think the majority of you, thy brethren on this forum, are pretty decent judging by some of your posts and PMs. There are definitely a few on here that are down right evil and frankly stupid. I was hanging out with McKenna after visiting her recently and she showed me a few of the conversations she had with some people that got her number from this forum. Now, I get it, this is an open forum so she could've been chatting with whoever and not even members on here. But my god some of the things people said to her floored me. I was like, WTF is wrong with people? Psycho really! How can you treat another human being that way? I was embarrassed to somehow be linked with that. Now, before you reply explaining things to me, I know. I'm no chump, I didn't come from under a rock. I'm in my late 40's and have been in the "Hobby" since before some of you were out of diapers. I've been around and seen all walks of life. You guys know who you are and if you don't god effing help you!!
Shooter out!!
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[QUOTE=HeyShooter;4638577]So, I'm going to post this because I think the majority of you, thy brethren on this forum, are pretty decent judging by some of your posts and PMs. There are definitely a few on here that are down right evil and frankly stupid. I was hanging out with McKenna after visiting her recently and she showed me a few of the conversations she had with some people that got her number from this forum. Now, I get it, this is an open forum so she could've been chatting with whoever and not even members on here. But my god some of the things people said to her floored me. I was like, WTF is wrong with people? Psycho really! How can you treat another human being that way? I was embarrassed to somehow be linked with that. Now, before you reply explaining things to me, I know. I'm no chump, I didn't come from under a rock. I'm in my late 40's and have been in the "Hobby" since before some of you were out of diapers. I've been around and seen all walks of life. You guys know who you are and if you don't god effing help you!!
Shooter out!![/QUOTE]Shooter. You've known me for a good minute back to our good ole days at EB before those fukkers started blocking and deleting accounts for speaking the truth. I've never tried to contact this McKenna chick. Would you care to elaborate on some of the things that were said?. No names of posters are necessary although I wouldn't begrudge you one bit if you did.
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Sad Sh**t
[QUOTE=HeyShooter;4638577]So, I'm going to post this because I think the majority of you, thy brethren on this forum, are pretty decent judging by some of your posts and PMs. There are definitely a few on here that are down right evil and frankly stupid. I was hanging out with McKenna after visiting her recently and she showed me a few of the conversations she had with some people that got her number from this forum. Now, I get it, this is an open forum so she could've been chatting with whoever and not even members on here. But my god some of the things people said to her floored me. I was like, WTF is wrong with people? Psycho really! How can you treat another human being that way? I was embarrassed to somehow be linked with that. Now, before you reply explaining things to me, I know. I'm no chump, I didn't come from under a rock. I'm in my late 40's and have been in the "Hobby" since before some of you were out of diapers. I've been around and seen all walks of life. You guys know who you are and if you don't god effing help you!!
Shooter out!![/QUOTE]I've seen her twice. She told me about some the the stuff dudes be sending her. Appreciate you putting us down, however some cats are crazy.
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In the future
[QUOTE=HeyShooter;4638577]So, I'm going to post this because I think the majority of you, thy brethren on this forum, are pretty decent judging by some of your posts and PMs. There are definitely a few on here that are down right evil and frankly stupid. I was hanging out with McKenna after visiting her recently and she showed me a few of the conversations she had with some people that got her number from this forum. Now, I get it, this is an open forum so she could've been chatting with whoever and not even members on here. But my god some of the things people said to her floored me. I was like, WTF is wrong with people? Psycho really! How can you treat another human being that way? I was embarrassed to somehow be linked with that. Now, before you reply explaining things to me, I know. I'm no chump, I didn't come from under a rock. I'm in my late 40's and have been in the "Hobby" since before some of you were out of diapers. I've been around and seen all walks of life. You guys know who you are and if you don't god effing help you!!
Shooter out!![/QUOTE]Please keep stuff like this off the review threads. Dealing with the public is part of any job that deals with the public that's part of charging 100 plus dollars an hour for having sex. Not saying it's right, just saying its what it's always going to be.
A2.
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You need to.
[QUOTE=PantyPirate;4578094]Anyone have any experience slipping Chlamydia meds to a partner? Would prefer to not tell my SO that I most likely have it. Already got 2 separate prescriptions.[/QUOTE]Confront her and ask her why she gave you Chlamydia!
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Agreed
[QUOTE=HeyShooter;4638577]So, I'm going to post this because I think the majority of you, thy brethren on this forum, are pretty decent judging by some of your posts and PMs. There are definitely a few on here that are down right evil and frankly stupid. I was hanging out with McKenna after visiting her recently and she showed me a few of the conversations she had with some people that got her number from this forum. Now, I get it, this is an open forum so she could've been chatting with whoever and not even members on here. But my god some of the things people said to her floored me. I was like, WTF is wrong with people? Psycho really! How can you treat another human being that way? I was embarrassed to somehow be linked with that. Now, before you reply explaining things to me, I know. I'm no chump, I didn't come from under a rock. I'm in my late 40's and have been in the "Hobby" since before some of you were out of diapers. I've been around and seen all walks of life. You guys know who you are and if you don't god effing help you!!
Shooter out!![/QUOTE]It's really a shame this happens, how some think they own these girls for the amount of time negotiated. OWN them, gezzz how petty is that? If the escort doesn't like something and doesn't agree to a meeting, move on, even if the date goes south, it happens, don't threaten and belittle um, come on man grow up! Now I didn't see what Shooter saw, but I have seen some awful text exchanges and threats that dates I've met with have had to put up with. Most were unknowns but a couple have been from here, they identified themselves to the date. As Shooter alluded to, I think this group is a fantastic bunch of guys from what I've read, but that small few, WOW. Just my humble opinion.
Monoxide.
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Working Girls In Aruba!
I just got back from visiting Aruba with 15 family members. I've been going there every 2-4 years for the last 25 years and this is the first time I noticed working girls at all the major casinos. So me and 3 younger guys met and took 4 babes to the beach at night for some fun. On 2 different nights with 2 different sets of babes. It was only $100 each time.
It was a 4 on 4 on the beach and it was a hoot. The first time each guy took a girl to a side of the car and went to work. I'm glad I brought my vitamins. So, FYI finding good looking working girls at reasonable rates on the isle of Aruba is quite easy. Curacao has the fantastic Campo Allegro but the constant heat is a drag and at least Aruba has very nice and frequent breezes.
Happy Mongering!!
SJ.
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Just a thought
Checked the board and I see another SW has passed away. I also see all the RIP messages and memorializing posts and had to give my 2 cents.
It is tragic when any life is lost and I don't want to appear indifferent, but I can't help but roll my eyes at the bullshit. We trick these women out for cheap, sexual thrills knowing good and well it is addiction to drugs that motivates them and their willingness to sell themselves to strangers. We know our money is being used to feed these addictions and can lead to untimely demise, whether overdose or illness exacerbated by the drug use. We help feed the addiction, knowing it can kill them. Then come on these boards with a bunch of RIP, boo-hoo bullshit when the inevitable happens. I challenge my fellow mongers to please save the bullshit.
I have had family members on drugs. When they ask for $$, I say no because I know what they want it for and I care about them. I have a college buddy who developed a drinking problem later in life after graduation. When I catch up with him, I don't drink. Because I care about him. I have a friend who has a mild gambling problem, I don't friendly wager with him because it triggers him. And I care about him.
If you really gave a shit about these girls, you wouldn't help feed the addiction. Period. So all this RIP bullshit comes off as phony and for show. Yes, you may recognize they are good people over time while tricking them out, but if you really cared, you would put your desire for a cheap nut aside and stop contributing to their demise. But you don't do that. You selfishly keep tricking them out, then come with fake ass condolences once they are gone. Bubbles told me her story once and I never pickes her up again. Couldn't bring myself to do it. Layla with DSLs from Wilkins has head so good, I was damn near addicted to it. But she was good people and when she started talking about rehab, I told her the second to last time I saw her, "I hope I don't see you again. Take care of yourself". That's the behavior of someone who really cares. Not contributing to the shit then broadcasting fake condolences when the ride is over. Again, I challenge my fellow mongers to be honest with themselves. And save the bullshit. Really.
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We all have.
[QUOTE=HeadLuvr;4689858]Checked the board and I see another SW has passed away. I also see all the RIP messages and memorializing posts and had to give my 2 cents.
It is tragic when any life is lost and I don't want to appear indifferent, but I can't help but roll my eyes at the bullshit. We trick these women out for cheap, sexual thrills knowing good and well it is addiction to drugs that motivates them and their willingness to sell themselves to strangers. We know our money is being used to feed these addictions and can lead to untimely demise, whether overdose or illness exacerbated by the drug use. We help feed the addiction, knowing it can kill them. Then come on these boards with a bunch of RIP, boo-hoo bullshit when the inevitable happens. I challenge my fellow mongers to please save the bullshit.
I have had family members on drugs. When they ask for $$, I say no because I know what they want it for and I care about them. I have a college buddy who developed a drinking problem later in life after graduation. When I catch up with him, I don't drink. Because I care about him. I have a friend who has a mild gambling problem, I don't friendly wager with him because it triggers him. And I care about him.
If you really gave a shit about these girls, you wouldn't help feed the addiction. Period. So all this RIP bullshit comes off as phony and for show. Yes, you may recognize they are good people over time while tricking them out, but if you really cared, you would put your desire for a cheap nut aside and stop contributing to their demise. But you don't do that. You selfishly keep tricking them out, then come with fake ass condolences once they are gone. Bubbles told me her story once and I never pickes her up again. Couldn't bring myself to do it. Layla with DSLs from Wilkins has head so good, I was damn near addicted to it. But she was good people and when she started talking about rehab, I told her the second to last time I saw her, "I hope I don't see you again. Take care of yourself". That's the behavior of someone who really cares. Not contributing to the shit then broadcasting fake condolences when the ride is over. Again, I challenge my fellow mongers to be honest with themselves. And save the bullshit. Really.[/QUOTE]We all have a wee bit of Captain save a ho in us.
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Ahh True caring
[QUOTE=HeadLuvr;4689858]Checked the board and I see another SW has passed away. I also see all the RIP messages and memorializing posts and had to give my 2 cents.
It is tragic when any life is lost and I don't want to appear indifferent, but I can't help but roll my eyes at the bullshit. We trick these women out for cheap, sexual thrills knowing good and well it is addiction to drugs that motivates them and their willingness to sell themselves to strangers. We know our money is being used to feed these addictions and can lead to untimely demise, whether overdose or illness exacerbated by the drug use. We help feed the addiction, knowing it can kill them. Then come on these boards with a bunch of RIP, boo-hoo bullshit when the inevitable happens. I challenge my fellow mongers to please save the bullshit.
I have had family members on drugs. When they ask for $$, I say no because I know what they want it for and I care about them. I have a college buddy who developed a drinking problem later in life after graduation. When I catch up with him, I don't drink. Because I care about him. I have a friend who has a mild gambling problem, I don't friendly wager with him because it triggers him. And I care about him.
If you really gave a shit about these girls, you wouldn't help feed the addiction. Period. So all this RIP bullshit comes off as phony and for show. Yes, you may recognize they are good people over time while tricking them out, but if you really cared, you would put your desire for a cheap nut aside and stop contributing to their demise. But you don't do that. You selfishly keep tricking them out, then come with fake ass condolences once they are gone. Bubbles told me her story once and I never pickes her up again. Couldn't bring myself to do it. Layla with DSLs from Wilkins has head so good, I was damn near addicted to it. But she was good people and when she started talking about rehab, I told her the second to last time I saw her, "I hope I don't see you again. Take care of yourself". That's the behavior of someone who really cares. Not contributing to the shit then broadcasting fake condolences when the ride is over. Again, I challenge my fellow mongers to be honest with themselves. And save the bullshit. Really.[/QUOTE]So tomorrow I'm going to ride up to a couple SW's I don't want to see, roll down the window and yell "I hope I don't see you again. Take care of yourself". True caring
Gezzz, SMFH, come on man. LLS.
JMHO.
Monoxide.
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[QUOTE=HeadLuvr;4689858]Checked the board and I see another SW has passed away. I also see all the RIP messages and memorializing posts and had to give my 2 cents.
It is tragic when any life is lost and I don't want to appear indifferent, but I can't help but roll my eyes at the bullshit. We trick these women out for cheap, sexual thrills knowing good and well it is addiction to drugs that motivates them and their willingness to sell themselves to strangers. We know our money is being used to feed these addictions and can lead to untimely demise, whether overdose or illness exacerbated by the drug use. We help feed the addiction, knowing it can kill them. Then come on these boards with a bunch of RIP, boo-hoo bullshit when the inevitable happens. I challenge my fellow mongers to please save the bullshit.
I have had family members on drugs. When they ask for $$, I say no because I know what they want it for and I care about them. I have a college buddy who developed a drinking problem later in life after graduation. When I catch up with him, I don't drink. Because I care about him. I have a friend who has a mild gambling problem, I don't friendly wager with him because it triggers him. And I care about him.
If you really gave a shit about these girls, you wouldn't help feed the addiction. Period. So all this RIP bullshit comes off as phony and for show. Yes, you may recognize they are good people over time while tricking them out, but if you really cared, you would put your desire for a cheap nut aside and stop contributing to their demise. But you don't do that. You selfishly keep tricking them out, then come with fake ass condolences once they are gone. Bubbles told me her story once and I never pickes her up again. Couldn't bring myself to do it. Layla with DSLs from Wilkins has head so good, I was damn near addicted to it. But she was good people and when she started talking about rehab, I told her the second to last time I saw her, "I hope I don't see you again. Take care of yourself". That's the behavior of someone who really cares. Not contributing to the shit then broadcasting fake condolences when the ride is over. Again, I challenge my fellow mongers to be honest with themselves. And save the bullshit. Really.[/QUOTE]If I'm understanding the angle you're coming from, I'd say point well made.
For this reason, I'm also somewhat reserved when it comes to expressing personal emotions regarding the overall well being of these SWs, since ultimately as you pointed out, we all know by seeing them we're enabling them to do what they're going to do.
On the other hand, I can also rationalize why it makes sense to see folks posts condolences messages too. At the end of the day, we're all social creatures and whether we want to admit it or not, we can mentally get attached to these girls. It's not after they're gone that you realize you valued who they were. This goes with everything else in life.
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True words
[QUOTE=HeadLuvr;4689858]Checked the board and I see another SW has passed away. I also see all the RIP messages and memorializing posts and had to give my 2 cents.
It is tragic when any life is lost and I don't want to appear indifferent, but I can't help but roll my eyes at the bullshit. We trick these women out for cheap, sexual thrills knowing good and well it is addiction to drugs that motivates them and their willingness to sell themselves to strangers. We know our money is being used to feed these addictions and can lead to untimely demise, whether overdose or illness exacerbated by the drug use. We help feed the addiction, knowing it can kill them. Then come on these boards with a bunch of RIP, boo-hoo bullshit when the inevitable happens. I challenge my fellow mongers to please save the bullshit.
I have had family members on drugs. When they ask for $$, I say no because I know what they want it for and I care about them. I have a college buddy who developed a drinking problem later in life after graduation. When I catch up with him, I don't drink. Because I care about him. I have a friend who has a mild gambling problem, I don't friendly wager with him because it triggers him. And I care about him.
If you really gave a shit about these girls, you wouldn't help feed the addiction. Period. So all this RIP bullshit comes off as phony and for show. Yes, you may recognize they are good people over time while tricking them out, but if you really cared, you would put your desire for a cheap nut aside and stop contributing to their demise. But you don't do that. You selfishly keep tricking them out, then come with fake ass condolences once they are gone. Bubbles told me her story once and I never pickes her up again. Couldn't bring myself to do it. Layla with DSLs from Wilkins has head so good, I was damn near addicted to it. But she was good people and when she started talking about rehab, I told her the second to last time I saw her, "I hope I don't see you again. Take care of yourself". That's the behavior of someone who really cares. Not contributing to the shit then broadcasting fake condolences when the ride is over. Again, I challenge my fellow mongers to be honest with themselves. And save the bullshit. Really.[/QUOTE]What you say is true. But what girl is in this game for anything but to feed a habit. Do you believe them when they say they aren't? I hope not. One could always refrain from saying anything, hence no hypocrisy. But that doesn't seem right either. I will continue to monger and not worry about what anyone does with the money they earn. I don't know what the waitress I tipped does with her money either. Or the cabbie. I don't feel responsible for what these people do with their money because I patronize them.
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Condolences
[QUOTE=HeadLuvr;4689858]Checked the board and I see another SW has passed away. I also see all the RIP messages and memorializing posts and had to give my 2 cents.
It is tragic when any life is lost and I don't want to appear indifferent, but I can't help but roll my eyes at the bullshit. We trick these women out for cheap, sexual thrills knowing good and well it is addiction to drugs that motivates them and their willingness to sell themselves to strangers. We know our money is being used to feed these addictions and can lead to untimely demise, whether overdose or illness exacerbated by the drug use. We help feed the addiction, knowing it can kill them. Then come on these boards with a bunch of RIP, boo-hoo bullshit when the inevitable happens. I challenge my fellow mongers to please save the bullshit.
I have had family members on drugs. When they ask for $$, I say no because I know what they want it for and I care about them. I have a college buddy who developed a drinking problem later in life after graduation. When I catch up with him, I don't drink. Because I care about him. I have a friend who has a mild gambling problem, I don't friendly wager with him because it triggers him. And I care about him.
If you really gave a shit about these girls, you wouldn't help feed the addiction. Period. So all this RIP bullshit comes off as phony and for show. Yes, you may recognize they are good people over time while tricking them out, but if you really cared, you would put your desire for a cheap nut aside and stop contributing to their demise. But you don't do that. You selfishly keep tricking them out, then come with fake ass condolences once they are gone. Bubbles told me her story once and I never pickes her up again. Couldn't bring myself to do it. Layla with DSLs from Wilkins has head so good, I was damn near addicted to it. But she was good people and when she started talking about rehab, I told her the second to last time I saw her, "I hope I don't see you again. Take care of yourself". That's the behavior of someone who really cares. Not contributing to the shit then broadcasting fake condolences when the ride is over. Again, I challenge my fellow mongers to be honest with themselves. And save the bullshit. Really.[/QUOTE]It is not unreasonable to have feelings of condolence when someone you know and have had acquaintances with possess away. We don't know the exact nature of each other's dealings with these broken women. Some of us stree broken in our own right. We choose these women for varying reasons. I do my best not to judge the women becsuse they are caught up in the disease of addiction. Yes we enable by partaking in their services but it's not all the same. Some buy them food, clothes, and other things no strings attached. Is one truly more entitled to offer condolences because they can make a claim of never have enabled?
Brothers we can and need to put things in perspective but not rag on each other over who should or shouldn't be offering condolences when someone passes.
I've known a few of these departed women and whether I participated in enabling behavior or not, I can have feelings about their demise. One is not necessarily disqualified from expressing feelings unless they were perfect humans themselves.
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New Virus
So what does the new pandemic hold for mongers? Just curious what everyone thinks about the situation and the traveling ladies that come through the area.
It seems like the (former or occasional) SWs who post on EB and other sites might be more likely to give a monger a more typical kind of problem but the traveling ladies have the opportunity to meet people everywhere. That could be a different type of problem.
Will the local girls get more biz because of this? Will the traveling ladies lay low for weeks or months? Will biz slow down and supply tighten?
Will mongers. Wait. Mongers? Mongers have pressing needs and will keep on going. That much we know. It's just the rest of the hobby I am curious about.