"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO; 1891751]Sad day in my bowl world.

My adventure with the 18YR ATF is done!

We scheduled for a FC date on Tuesday, then Monday I was txting her to make sure things are still good for the FC date. After an afternoon of silence, she finally responded saying she couldn't see me any longer. She apologize and thanks me for all that I've done for her. The reason is she found a man that 'cares about her and want to make a life with her'. It's funny, because on Saturday we're still sexting and talking about naughty things we going to do and then on Monday she found a new man. Amazing how quickly life changes with these young girls.

Anyway, I wish her well and kindly reminded her that if things didn't work out with her new BF, she knows where to find me. Well, it was a very brief affair but it was damn great when it lasted. This was the reason I kept saying fuck them good and fuck them hard like it's the last time. LOL.

Well, time to move on. Working on a few POTs, mostly HYMs. Anticipating to have some POF next week in the FC.

Sidenote: As I am sitting here typing this, I am recovering from a testes infection (not fun). I am not sure if this is a result of my participation in the bowl world, but brothers be careful out there and keep the hat on.[/QUOTE]True true brother. This is a finicky business. In fact if we got all the pussy we were asking for we would wear out. Just to show you how true. I wrote last week about a pleasant surprise form two nice MILFs divorced and very promising. One was really hot and the other was good looking and wealthy did not require any sugar and lived in a nudist colony and could host.

A few short days later both gone with the wind. The hot one got into some kind of texting self destruct spiral with me the day before we were to meet. I still don't know exactly what happened. It is kind of comical. She could have been drunk or just plain crazy I do not know. The texts were too disjointed and scattered to even understand after awhile and I eventually gave up. Next day when we were to meet. I texted her to check if she could still make it. Silence, crickets. Nothing since then. Who knows?

The second one was all gung ho and ready to go. Very much a free spirit. And very experimental. Or so she appeared. Next day texted her and silence. Never heard from her again. What the fuck. These women were ready to meet and good to go. Anything could have happened. I believe this one was just dipping her toe in the water and got the cold feet. But like I have said before. Trying to figure out what is going on in the head of a woman is the path to lunacy. And trying to figure out what is going on in the head of one of these babies is straight off the cliff. I will try them again. But I am not going to put much effort in it.

They come they go.

Oh well I fucked two of my favorites this week already and will fuck my no sugar brazillian bartender baby tomorrow. Life is good. What the fuck was I doing even messing with these crazy other women?

By the way did anyone fuck that cutie up in West Virginia that has been needing a daddy for rent money? She looked like about a 8/7? I am dying to see how that went.

Revvo

[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1892062]So I met with the married 25 year old AA spinner (8. 5/9/7/2) who wanted to test drive. She was late again, both times I had to wait 40 minutes. We picked up some food and headed to the room. Kinda like a few of the other non-passionate types, no foreplay. No kissing. It was just "ok I'm finished eating, take your clothes off". She was not into oral. Either giving or receiving. So I kinda knew what to expect, was just hoping it would be different. It wasn't She has this awesome body, a-cups with a cute butt. Very slender. But sex with her was a one-sided affair. Nothing I liked or desired was considered and I tried to sneak in oral and she about had a cow. She complained about sweat, so I had to use the pillows to keep sweat from dripping on her.

So since I've had a few orgasms lately, I had some good endurance built up. So I (excuse my french)"banged the shit out of her" for a good 40 minutes. Multiple positions, multiple paces, I had to keep moving her hand because she was covering her mouth and I wanted to hear the sounds. Whenever a position was causing her voice to go higher. I banged harder. It was like a angry fuck with an old girlfriend. Like you want to show her what she's missing. By the time it was over I was sweating like crazy and she was curled up with lots of min-orgasm aftershocks. I did not even have an orgams (condom dulls the sensation) and of course she didn't notice or care, LOL.

She's 25 and she was wore out and very pleased. She mentioned how when I dropped her off, she was going to to to sleep (2pm in the afternoon). She then text me the same after she got in the house. She really didn't require any funds, but being the softy that I am, I gave her. 40 anyway. My normal is $, but it was so mechanical that it lost a lot of luster. She wants to meet again, but I'll not be doing it as MsHipsnThighs will be taking care of me for a while to come. She's not the best body-wise, but she makes up for it in attitude and skills.

Thanks to another shutdown day, I'm overloading tomorrow. MsHipsNthighs from 8-10:30 at her place, lunch with MsArtist from 11:30-1:30, hotel date with MsThickness from 2-4 and dinner date with new POT from 6-8 (great body, good attitude, nice face. Sent over some nice pics, has her own place. Lots of potential).

BigTigg[/QUOTE]I hate that brother Tigg. You know what? Either show up to fuck and suck or don't get on the fucking field. Great job pounding her real good. Awesome to give her that good grudge fuck and to make her squeal. Thing is they like that. The real lesson is when she calls you wanting to meet. And then you say real nice and polite "sweetheart I would love to meet you and get together but, I really like oral, and I really like to have fun and be adventurous, and you are just not into that. So I am moving on to someone else. But if you want to try some things?" Then see what she says. She may come around once she sees that she is not in the drivers seat.

I had a similar experience. Maybe the most beautiful baby I ever fucked. Was Russian and a real working model. She actually got paid for some of her work. She was a good solid 10/9/6/5. You looked at her she was like an angel. And she had the most beautiful pussy I have ever seen in my life. You could put a picture of that pussy on a public billboard and no one would complain it was so exquisite. Then you talked to her and things started going down hill. Very negative and not up for anything. I was only paying her 200 and could have fucked her anytime I wanted. But she would not kiss, she was terrible in bed. Not very orgasmic. Would not even go for a second nutt. Let alone a third. She really confirmed the Russian stereotype of being cold. God knows what happened to her in her childhood. I thought maybe I can be patient and train her. But Hollywood was right on this. Why waste my money and time, and sanity. Trying to fix this poor girl. I honestly felt sorry for her. You looked at her beautiful face and you could see sadness even when she smiled. Have you ever seen a person that when the laughed the corners of their mouth were turned down? She did. I dropped her after three visits.

What a waste of the first class pussy. Somebody really ruined that girl.

Revvo

[QUOTE=Revvo; 1892087]I hate that brother Tigg. You know what? Either show up to fuck and suck or don't get on the fucking field. Great job pounding her real good. Awesome to give her that good grudge fuck and to make her squeal. Thing is they like that. The real lesson is when she calls you wanting to meet. And then you say real nice and polite "sweetheart I would love to meet you and get together but, I really like oral, and I really like to have fun and be adventurous, and you are just not into that. So I am moving on to someone else. But if you want to try some things?" Then see what she says. She may come around once she sees that she is not in the drivers seat.

I had a similar experience. Maybe the most beautiful baby I ever fucked. Was Russian and a real working model. She actually got paid for some of her work. She was a good solid 10/9/6/5. You looked at her she was like an angel. And she had the most beautiful pussy I have ever seen in my life. You could put a picture of that pussy on a public billboard and no one would complain it was so exquisite. Then you talked to her and things started going down hill. Very negative and not up for anything. I was only paying her 200 and could have fucked her anytime I wanted. But she would not kiss, she was terrible in bed. Not very orgasmic. Would not even go for a second nutt. Let alone a third. She really confirmed the Russian stereotype of being cold. God knows what happened to her in her childhood. I thought maybe I can be patient and train her. But Hollywood was right on this. Why waste my money and time, and sanity. Trying to fix this poor girl. I honestly felt sorry for her. You looked at her beautiful face and you could see sadness even when she smiled. Have you ever seen a person that when the laughed the corners of their mouth were turned down? She did. I dropped her after three visits.

What a waste of the first class pussy. Somebody really ruined that girl.

Revvo[/QUOTE]WOW. Unbelivable, you fucked for 40 minutes last night. And you going to hook up with 4 different women the next day, you must have plenty of money. And viagra. The way I fuck, I have to take 2-3 breaks to fuck for 40 solid minutes, or I'd be dead, but then I try to hurt it!

[QUOTE=Revvo; 1892087]I hate that brother Tigg. You know what? Either show up to fuck and suck or don't get on the fucking field. Great job pounding her real good. Awesome to give her that good grudge fuck and to make her squeal. Thing is they like that. The real lesson is when she calls you wanting to meet. And then you say real nice and polite "sweetheart I would love to meet you and get together but, I really like oral, and I really like to have fun and be adventurous, and you are just not into that. So I am moving on to someone else. But if you want to try some things?" Then see what she says. She may come around once she sees that she is not in the drivers seat.

I had a similar experience. Maybe the most beautiful baby I ever fucked. Was Russian and a real working model. She actually got paid for some of her work. She was a good solid 10/9/6/5. You looked at her she was like an angel. And she had the most beautiful pussy I have ever seen in my life. You could put a picture of that pussy on a public billboard and no one would complain it was so exquisite. Then you talked to her and things started going down hill. Very negative and not up for anything. I was only paying her 200 and could have fucked her anytime I wanted. But she would not kiss, she was terrible in bed. Not very orgasmic. Would not even go for a second nutt. Let alone a third. She really confirmed the Russian stereotype of being cold. God knows what happened to her in her childhood. I thought maybe I can be patient and train her. But Hollywood was right on this. Why waste my money and time, and sanity. Trying to fix this poor girl. I honestly felt sorry for her. You looked at her beautiful face and you could see sadness even when she smiled. Have you ever seen a person that when the laughed the corners of their mouth were turned down? She did. I dropped her after three visits.

What a waste of the first class pussy. Somebody really ruined that girl.

Revvo[/QUOTE]Can"t live with 'em, can't live with out 'em. In general that is. But on an individual basis. They are only as good as their last roll in the hay. My sugar gf just got pissed because I told her she was high maintenance. I am supposed to be the high maintenance one in the relationship, Not her. (I even had that in my SD profile at one time, I should put it back in). Having superior bedroom skills, aside from their looks is the main reason we pay these girls. IDK why they dont always get that? They think their looks are everything, well duh, get a clue. We're not in high school anymore.

My MILF and my roommate totally get it. Their mission in life is to make sure I cum as hard as humanly possible. And gee, one has been around for 2 years and the other for almost a year.

I always die laughing when some girl talks about are you looking for arm candy in her profile. They should coin a new phrase for what we are really looking for, dick candy.

[QUOTE=Revvo;1892087]Either show up to fuck and suck or don't get on the fucking field.[/QUOTE]I love this line. I need to remember that.

Well the POT I was supposed to meet tomorrow for dinner is off. I asked her to wear a nice fitting skirt or dress for the date. It's our first date. She says she will, but expects an amazing gift. I was like "gift". This is new to me, POT expecting a gift on the first date. I told her I'd pay for the meal and gas. I told her that I wasn't expecting to go to the hotel on the first date. Now if we decide to extend the date, then my gift will change accordingly. She replied, I didn't expect to go to the hotel on the first date "LOL". So she wants to send me a list of gifts that she like so I can have something to pick from for the first date. I said, send away, but reminded her that I know how to take care of women and she doesn't need to tell me to bring an amazing gift.

So I get the email and there are 3 items on it all purses. #1 $475 #2 $675 #3 $1780. Let me get this straight, she wants an "amazing" gift off this list. JUST FOR SHOWING UP!

So I sent her an email stating some facts about what it takes to get these kinds of gifts and recommended we cancel our date.

Wow. For the first date. Really?

Plus she wanted $1300 a month and cannot host. Really?

We'll see what her response is. She's very new and obviously has her head in the clouds when it comes to what she should expect. Especially since she's probably a 7. 8 in the face and 8 body.

BigTigg

[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1892319]I love this line. I need to remember that.

Well the POT I was supposed to meet tomorrow for dinner is off. I asked her to wear a nice fitting skirt or dress for the date. It's our first date. She says she will, but expects an amazing gift. I was like "gift". This is new to me, POT expecting a gift on the first date. I told her I'd pay for the meal and gas. I told her that I wasn't expecting to go to the hotel on the first date. Now if we decide to extend the date, then my gift will change accordingly. She replied, I didn't expect to go to the hotel on the first date "LOL". So she wants to send me a list of gifts that she like so I can have something to pick from for the first date. I said, send away, but reminded her that I know how to take care of women and she doesn't need to tell me to bring an amazing gift.

So I get the email and there are 3 items on it all purses. #1 $475 #2 $675 #3 $1780. Let me get this straight, she wants an "amazing" gift off this list. JUST FOR SHOWING UP!

So I sent her an email stating some facts about what it takes to get these kinds of gifts and recommended we cancel our date.

Wow. For the first date. Really?

Plus she wanted $1300 a month and cannot host. Really?

We'll see what her response is. She's very new and obviously has her head in the clouds when it comes to what she should expect. Especially since she's probably a 7. 8 in the face and 8 body.

BigTigg[/QUOTE]Is there any reason to even reply to her next txt? I only state this for the new guys. I don't negotiate.

[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO; 1891751]Sad day in my bowl world.

My adventure with the 18YR ATF is done!

We scheduled for a FC date on Tuesday, then Monday I was txting her to make sure things are still good for the FC date. After an afternoon of silence, she finally responded saying she couldn't see me any longer. She apologize and thanks me for all that I've done for her. The reason is she found a man that 'cares about her and want to make a life with her'. It's funny, because on Saturday we're still sexting and talking about naughty things we going to do and then on Monday she found a new man. Amazing how quickly life changes with these young girls.

Anyway, I wish her well and kindly reminded her that if things didn't work out with her new BF, she knows where to find me. Well, it was a very brief affair but it was damn great when it lasted. This was the reason I kept saying fuck them good and fuck them hard like it's the last time. LOL.

Well, time to move on. Working on a few POTs, mostly HYMs. Anticipating to have some POF next week in the FC.

Sidenote: As I am sitting here typing this, I am recovering from a testes infection (not fun). I am not sure if this is a result of my participation in the bowl world, but brothers be careful out there and keep the hat on.[/QUOTE]Hi Smokarz,

I can commiserate. Just after a very busy time with escorts earlier this year I started to have a very painful ache in my balls and the head of my dick. (I'm not sure if the two events are related) My Urologist diagnosed me with prostatitis and put me on pain meds and cipro for 6 weeks. 6 weeks! I started with the regiment and the pain was still there. After doing some reading, I started drinking distilled water. The pain subsided the next day and I quit taking the pain meds all together. I finished the antibiotic regiment and have had no issues since. The rational is that it is hard for drugs to reach the tissue of the prostate and testes as much of it has been filtered out of your system by then. Drinking distilled water with no nutrients in it, helps the body absorb the antibiotic as it's not competing with anything else. Sounded far fetched, but I was desperate. Worked for me.

Take care,

HL

[QUOTE=Revvo; 1892087]I hate that brother Tigg. You know what? Either show up to fuck and suck or don't get on the fucking field. Great job pounding her real good. Awesome to give her that good grudge fuck and to make her squeal. Thing is they like that. The real lesson is when she calls you wanting to meet. And then you say real nice and polite "sweetheart I would love to meet you and get together but, I really like oral, and I really like to have fun and be adventurous, and you are just not into that. So I am moving on to someone else. But if you want to try some things?" Then see what she says. She may come around once she sees that she is not in the drivers seat.

I had a similar experience. Maybe the most beautiful baby I ever fucked. Was Russian and a real working model. She actually got paid for some of her work. She was a good solid 10/9/6/5. You looked at her she was like an angel. And she had the most beautiful pussy I have ever seen in my life. You could put a picture of that pussy on a public billboard and no one would complain it was so exquisite. Then you talked to her and things started going down hill. Very negative and not up for anything. I was only paying her 200 and could have fucked her anytime I wanted. But she would not kiss, she was terrible in bed. Not very orgasmic. Would not even go for a second nutt. Let alone a third. She really confirmed the Russian stereotype of being cold. God knows what happened to her in her childhood. I thought maybe I can be patient and train her. But Hollywood was right on this. Why waste my money and time, and sanity. Trying to fix this poor girl. I honestly felt sorry for her. You looked at her beautiful face and you could see sadness even when she smiled. Have you ever seen a person that when the laughed the corners of their mouth were turned down? She did. I dropped her after three visits.

What a waste of the first class pussy. Somebody really ruined that girl.

Revvo[/QUOTE]After reading this I broke up with my "little princess". I have been less than thrilled with her bedroom performances. This led to a very frank discussion about what is expected from her, but also what I will need to do to get her there physically. Nothing to do with sugar, in fact I cut that in half. But everything to do with guiding a young and very inexperienced girl in what it takes to please her man. The bottom line is, that there is a bottom line in these relationships. Thanks Revvo for the push.

[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1892319]I love this line. I need to remember that.

Well the POT I was supposed to meet tomorrow for dinner is off. I asked her to wear a nice fitting skirt or dress for the date. It's our first date. She says she will, but expects an amazing gift. I was like "gift". This is new to me, POT expecting a gift on the first date. I told her I'd pay for the meal and gas. I told her that I wasn't expecting to go to the hotel on the first date. Now if we decide to extend the date, then my gift will change accordingly. She replied, I didn't expect to go to the hotel on the first date "LOL". So she wants to send me a list of gifts that she like so I can have something to pick from for the first date. I said, send away, but reminded her that I know how to take care of women and she doesn't need to tell me to bring an amazing gift.

So I get the email and there are 3 items on it all purses. #1 $475 #2 $675 #3 $1780. Let me get this straight, she wants an "amazing" gift off this list. JUST FOR SHOWING UP!

So I sent her an email stating some facts about what it takes to get these kinds of gifts and recommended we cancel our date.

Wow. For the first date. Really?

Plus she wanted $1300 a month and cannot host. Really?

We'll see what her response is. She's very new and obviously has her head in the clouds when it comes to what she should expect. Especially since she's probably a 7. 8 in the face and 8 body.

BigTigg[/QUOTE]This is the girl's first trip to town or possibly passive aggressive behavior. I think we deal with this by clicking on without saying a word. Engaging her leads to drama and drama leads to high blood pressure.

[QUOTE=Golfcart;1893182]This is the girl's first trip to town or possibly passive aggressive behavior. I think we deal with this by clicking on without saying a word. Engaging her leads to drama and drama leads to high blood pressure.[/QUOTE]So true. She never replied and I moved on. Right now, I have two who take care of me very good and the sugar is reasonable. Both are young and eager to please and keep me happy. Both have had less than 5 sex partners and I am loving life.

BT

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;1893156]After reading this I broke up with my "little princess". I have been less than thrilled with her bedroom performances. This led to a very frank discussion about what is expected from her, but also what I will need to do to get her there physically. Nothing to do with sugar, in fact I cut that in half. But everything to do with guiding a young and very inexperienced girl in what it takes to please her man. The bottom line is, that there is a bottom line in these relationships. Thanks Revvo for the push.[/QUOTE]Brother you gave me the push first. LOL. Funny thing I never really missed my little Russian Popscicle first because she was as cold as ice, but also because I was pursuing a quality experience. And that pusuit was leading me into a different direction. And once I let go of looks as the primary driver the experiences have gotten so much better.

Don't get me wrong I still pursue beautiful women. I just don't make it the primary factor. And now I really consider myself lucky. I can say the past few weeks with my little trio. Has been the absolute most amazing sex of my life. And getting better. Before it was not as fun as it is now.

Good luck HW.

Revvo

[QUOTE=Happy Lover; 1892957]Hi Smokarz,

I can commiserate. Just after a very busy time with escorts earlier this year I started to have a very painful ache in my balls and the head of my dick. (I'm not sure if the two events are related) My Urologist diagnosed me with prostatitis and put me on pain meds and cipro for 6 weeks. 6 weeks! I started with the regiment and the pain was still there. After doing some reading, I started drinking distilled water. The pain subsided the next day and I quit taking the pain meds all together. I finished the antibiotic regiment and have had no issues since. The rational is that it is hard for drugs to reach the tissue of the prostate and testes as much of it has been filtered out of your system by then. Drinking distilled water with no nutrients in it, helps the body absorb the antibiotic as it's not competing with anything else. Sounded far fetched, but I was desperate. Worked for me.

Take care,

HL[/QUOTE]Thanks HL.

That's what I am taking now, Cipro. Damn. 6 weeks? The thought of not having pussies for 6 weeks is damn depressing. But I'll take up your advice and drink plenty of H2O.

Smoke

[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO; 1893510]Thanks HL.

That's what I am taking now, Cipro. Damn. 6 weeks? The thought of not having pussies for 6 weeks is damn depressing. But I'll take up your advice and drink plenty of H2O.

Smoke[/QUOTE]Hi Smoke,

Not just h20, but distilled h20. I bought some gallon jugs from the local supermarket. And nobody said anything about no pussy for six weeks. I had pain, but no performance issues. Pain gone, game on. The only way I'm foregoing sex for 6 weeks is if I'm hospitalized. Not even then, maybe coma. LOL.

HL

[QUOTE=Happy Lover; 1892957]Hi Smokarz,

I can commiserate. Just after a very busy time with escorts earlier this year I started to have a very painful ache in my balls and the head of my dick. (I'm not sure if the two events are related) My Urologist diagnosed me with prostatitis and put me on pain meds and cipro for 6 weeks. 6 weeks! I started with the regiment and the pain was still there. After doing some reading, I started drinking distilled water. The pain subsided the next day and I quit taking the pain meds all together. I finished the antibiotic regiment and have had no issues since. The rational is that it is hard for drugs to reach the tissue of the prostate and testes as much of it has been filtered out of your system by then. Drinking distilled water with no nutrients in it, helps the body absorb the antibiotic as it's not competing with anything else. Sounded far fetched, but I was desperate. Worked for me.

Take care,

HL[/QUOTE]I just want to let you both know I been thru this too. About a year ago, I woke up one morning to go to work and felt a ache on my left testicle. It was bad enough that I had to skip work and go see my doctor. Felt like someone kicked me in the nuts. Go in the doctors office and thought. I might have caught something. I always use the cover. Then he had me get an X-ray. He gave me some med, antibiotics. Asked me have I been doing some strenuous physical activities and my sex life style. Told him the taht that I been having more sex than normal recently and that I started running. Told me that the running and increase sexual activity is the cause since I had my boys bouncing around in my boxer. Told me to go slow on the running and still continue with the sex. Just no rough stuff like have my balls sucked on. Also get plenty of water. I was actually bettter after two days, but finish the meds anyway. He ha me get an ultra sound just in case. No issue. Fast forward to current day, I run about 5-7 miles, drink plenty of fluid, and slim & fit. Result is a lean, mean, sex machine that can keep up with the young ladies.

Hope you get better and back in action soon. Six weeks is rough! I feel bad for the SB that is going to take that load. LOL!

J. Draven

JD,

Thanks for also sharing your experience on this health issue.

LOL, yeah one of these HYMs will get it good once I am better and ready for the FC.

My Italian preggo HYM, who just had a c-sect about a week ago wanted to see me. Said the doc told her to have nothing in the puss for 5 weeks but she told me she could 'do other things', like up the ass. I told her to healed up and we'll go at it in both holes. Besides, I am in no mood to be fucking right about now. I look forward to seeing her again.

Smoke,