Non Pro's

[QUOTE=TnaPorter;5467100]But I agree completely here. I've purchased tickets before for an SB, but it was plane tickets, not a Greyhound. I don't want to tell anyone how to do this hobby because there are undoubtedly far more successful men than me, but I do ok and what the OP did there was just the wrong way to do it. Even the slightly below average looking women on this site are getting dozens of messages per day. Most of those guys are broke or have no intention of meeting so you not only have to stand out, but if you want a girl you need to seal the deal when she gives you a chance to.[/QUOTE]Honestly you probably could have just paid to have her rent a car, that would've been like $150 tops.

Quick question about the plane tickets, are sugar babies cool with flying coach in your experience? I've thought about flying people to me and that sort of thing, but really would rather not pay more than an entire PPM for a first class ticket.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5467001]Yup, LOL.

Just another scammer.[/QUOTE]LOL I was able to get some pictures initially. It's crazy out there how the approach by some is towards making a quick buck with no effort to work for it.

[QUOTE=MrPumpNDump;5467111]Quick question about the plane tickets, are sugar babies cool with flying coach in your experience? I've thought about flying people to me and that sort of thing, but really would rather not pay more than an entire PPM for a first class ticket.[/QUOTE]Yeah, in my experience these women rarely fly so coach is always ok. They might be done up and spend a lot of time on clothes and makeup, but the reality is that they're almost always broke so just the idea of even flying to Las Vegas is super exciting to them. I've bought a couple first class tickets for SBs in the past when it was an instance where somehow the first class ticket was barely more expensive, but I would say that in both of those instances, the first class ticket did not impress the SB any more than the coach ticket would have.

[QUOTE=TnaPorter;5467290]Yeah, in my experience these women rarely fly so coach is always ok. They might be done up and spend a lot of time on clothes and makeup, but the reality is that they're almost always broke so just the idea of even flying to Las Vegas is super exciting to them. I've bought a couple first class tickets for SBs in the past when it was an instance where somehow the first class ticket was barely more expensive, but I would say that in both of those instances, the first class ticket did not impress the SB any more than the coach ticket would have.[/QUOTE]Quite honestly, I can afford first class and I generally fly coach. I will do first class if there is only a small difference in price. As an example, my trip overseas that I'm taking next week was $850 or $1250 first class. I chose first class. It's now at $2,000 first class, I would have flown coach at that price. If I fly coach and can afford first class, she can fly coach too, because she can't afford it. At any rate, any rational person would understand if you said, "I always fly coach, I got you a plane ticket. " They would know that the ticket is coach and that you would fly the same way.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5467064]If you were a hot 25 YO that is looking for the finer things in life such as (according to her profile) coffee shops, shopping, traveling and steaks and some guy offers up a luxurious Greyhound ticket to Seattle, would you take it?

Giving someone a Greyhound ticket just screams that you're broke. Shit, I wouldn't let my adult daughters take Greyhound. Look, if she's that good looking and really DTF, I would have drove my ass up there and got her and if I didn't have the time, I'd pay for an Uber. Greyhound? Seriously.[/QUOTE]Can't really find anything here to disagree with.

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;5466100]SA is still a goldmine, I meet a 90 pd 4-12 29 year old from the Philippines tonight dinner was res robin her choice, a cocktail or two in the room, my choice and non stop fucking for 90 minutes. For $$ I love SA! It is worth the hassle.[/QUOTE]I have 5 different dates lined up, all super hot 20-29 year olds, who are DTF bb all night (and it gets cheaper / non-transactional if you're actually fun), for a total of what I would spend for 3 1-hour dates on the other board. The $99/ month is an awesome investment if you have any game and invest a little time.

[QUOTE=Baddaddy2021;5467444]I have 5 different dates lined up, all super hot 20-29 year olds, who are DTF bb all night (and it gets cheaper / non-transactional if you're actually fun), for a total of what I would spend for 3 1-hour dates on the other board. The $99/ month is an awesome investment if you have any game and invest a little time.[/QUOTE]I had a dry spell where nothing seemed to gel but now but I've got three on the line that are all DTF and very upfront about wanting the d raw. In the past I've had several that were regulars for varying periods of time that didn't even want money. I even broke my rule with one about letting them know where I live. She worked not far from my house and would come over for a nooner every day of the week. She was super submissive so I'd sometimes just have her suck me off, swallow her protein supplement, and kick her out. It was great fun for about 4 months until she lost her job and wasn't around any longer.

So, all in all, yes it's a damned good investment if you're willing to sort through the scammers and gps to find the real gems.

Names have been mentioned here (Ema, sarcasticfungirl) but I can find no way to actually find them on the site?

Not sure if it is just me, but this sounds TGTBT based on my SA experience. But maybe I'm doing something wrong.

[QUOTE=Baddaddy2021;5467444]I have 5 different dates lined up, all super hot 20-29 year olds, who are DTF bb all night (and it gets cheaper / non-transactional if you're actually fun), for a total of what I would spend for 3 1-hour dates on the other board. The $99/ month is an awesome investment if you have any game and invest a little time.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JustDc;5468590]Not sure if it is just me, but this sounds TGTBT based on my SA experience. But maybe I'm doing something wrong.[/QUOTE]In my experience girls dtf bb all night are low key and don't like bringing up stuff like that before hand. It just usually happens. I never bring up protection / menu and length of date unless I'm getting pro vibes. The toe dippers and casual sugar babies who are the best finds in my opinion don't appreciate it.

[QUOTE=MrPumpNDump;5469018]In my experience girls dtf bb all night are low key and don't like bringing up stuff like that before hand. It just usually happens. I never bring up protection / menu and length of date unless I'm getting pro vibes. The toe dippers and casual sugar babies who are the best finds in my opinion don't appreciate it.[/QUOTE]But at the same time, there is a lot of truth to what the OP is saying. For one, it's not "a little time" to invest -- it's a ton of time. It's just like normal dating, but in reverse. Like instead, you fuck the girl up front and if you two get along, you often (usually?) end up paying less and less to the point where you just take her out, have fun, and get to fuck her all night at the cost of only your company. But since it's like normal dating, there's a ton of competition out there and you're vying for the girl's attention as she wades through dozens of messages per day. The girl then has to determine which guys are serious and which ones are just scammers -- and a lot of girls are more attracted to the messaging style of scammers.

But in the end, it's so much better than a straight pro and infinitely better than normal dating. My worst SA experience is probably 2 x better than even an average experience with a girl from the other board and definitely better than any crapshoot experience I've had off STG.

[QUOTE=JustDc;5468590]Not sure if it is just me, but this sounds TGTBT based on my SA experience. But maybe I'm doing something wrong.[/QUOTE]In my experience the only ones that actually brought up condoms are the pros that I eventually discovered on TNA and one 19 YO that said she "preferred" I use one. Oh and then there was the worst fuck ever, she definitely wanted condoms. I'm fixed, but always use one, so not a big deal. On a couple of occasions I pulled out a condom and briefly got a look that I interpreted to mean, "he thinks I have something" to " he probably has something so he needs a condom".

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5469272]In my experience the only ones that actually brought up condoms are the pros that I eventually discovered on TNA and one 19 YO that said she "preferred" I use one. Oh and then there was the worst fuck ever, she definitely wanted condoms. I'm fixed, but always use one, so not a big deal. On a couple of occasions I pulled out a condom and briefly got a look that I interpreted to mean, "he thinks I have something" to " he probably has something so he needs a condom".[/QUOTE]Yeah I wasn't questioning the condom, just the "agreeing to fuck bb all night" before the date. Condoms are a hard pass for me which is why I like sugaring over escorts (and many other reasons).

I'd say 75% of sugar babies don't mention it, the other 25% are probably 50/50 pro vs people worried about diseases. I still don't bring it up before hand, if a sugar baby insists on condom, still better than an escort appearance and I just don't repeat.

[QUOTE=XyzzyS2;5468558]Names have been mentioned here (Ema, sarcasticfungirl) but I can find no way to actually find them on the site?[/QUOTE]Put the name you're looking for under Profile Text.

And don't put in Ema, she's a fake.

I wasn't being skeptical about bb or bb all night long. I'd love that. I'm more skeptical about the fact of having 5 hot young girls lined up for dates. But I guess there are always people doing better.

[QUOTE=MrPumpNDump;5469282]Yeah I wasn't questioning the condom, just the "agreeing to fuck bb all night" before the date. Condoms are a hard pass for me which is why I like sugaring over escorts (and many other reasons).

I'd say 75% of sugar babies don't mention it, the other 25% are probably 50/50 pro vs people worried about diseases. I still don't bring it up before hand, if a sugar baby insists on condom, still better than an escort appearance and I just don't repeat.[/QUOTE]