Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=DNut;4998906]What are the 3 most important things when considering value in real estate? "LOCATION! LOCATION! LOCATION! The current prices are definitely driven by economics, but not in the way of need. It has more to do of WHERE they are advertising. When the USA Classifieds were up, the prices set there were more reasonable because those providers who posted there also had access to the board. They could read what was being said, and the prices set by the popular ladies became the de facto "standard rate" with plusses and minuses given for youth, hotness, personality and quality of service. There was feedback that could be read and it functioned as Yelp did. New incoming girls could see what the standard rate was, and adjust their own pricing accordingly. Those that were overcharging could / would read comments about their rates and they were more inclined to make adjustments.

Nowadays, USA Classifieds is gone, and the new girls entering the biz are only seeing the rates set by their competition on Tryst and Eros, and Slixa, and they think that if Provider1 is charging $$ then they should also be charging $$ Then someone hotter comes along and decides to add a couple of $$ to that because, after all, if some ugly skank can charge $$ then surely they would be worth $$ a session. Newer girls comes along, sees the the 6 benjamins and before you know it, you got a 150/ hr girls asking 4 X what the market will actually bear.

Case in point, this newer Tryst poster: [URL]https://tryst.link/escort/sexxijessii[/URL] She is asking for 5 benjamins per hour. Never met her, and I certainly don't remember any reviews, so based solely on what I can see in the ad, there is no way anyone would part with a Mercedes car payment for an hour with her.

Location, location, location.

P.S.-- Looking at the ads, I think Maci Monroe is priced appropriately. She is reviewed, mostly positive with the negatives being her lack of respect for time and punctuality, and she does have a pleasing look. So, I am using her as my baseline of gauging rate vs. Return.[/QUOTE]I have always tried to set rates that are reasonable for everyone involved. I never had anyone over 250 or 300 hr at the most and a very few of them were at those rates like Maria Monroe, Galina, Ryann etc. Anyone that uses EE regularly knows I give them lower rates than what is listed of the website. I do see rates the Ladies charge on Eros, Tryst and other sites and wonder how many clientele they get in this market at that price point? The SexxiJessii that DNut referred to is the same Jess on LC doing QV for. 6 at a very low end hotel. But again, I Believe most of the clientele that they get serious interest from are first timers or do not know about USASG and are not educated in the hobby. Most of those providers do not screen for safety either. Stay safe and spend your money wisely!! EE.

"Nothing is ever as good as advertised in this industry, ever. " That's just about the most accurate statement I've ever read on these boards.

[QUOTE=MarblesKyle;4998905]I can afford five hundred, but it's an insanely stupid way to spend your money. Three is about as high as I go unless I just have to try something. Nothing is ever as good as advertised in this industry, ever.

Another thing that is being missed is generational differences and how bad a 21 year old hottie acts now compared to 20 years ago. Kids are being raised differently and have been for decades. There is a clear difference in youths today than people of the same age even ten years ago. There is a lot more entitlement, and way less accountability. When you combine this with a pandemic and a rampant opiod problem, you get above average chicks charging five bills for a nut just because they aren't junkies or aren't 40 plus.

I'm only in my late thirties, but I prefer the cougars or someone my age because I identify with them better and the overall experience (for me) is better. As I've said many times, if the attitude and hygiene are good, I'm able to overlook some saggy tits or thicker thighs.

Different strokes, of course, but for me if I know you have a bad attitude and you aren't even trying to hide it, I can't get into it. Older providers at least act like they are enjoying the visit. The only provider under 30 that I've actually had a great time with was Natalee, and she definitely doesn't fall into the "hard body" class. She has some extra lbs and probably was in her late 20's. Any other experiences I've had with "hotter" younger providers has just felt very mechanical and cold.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DNut;4998906]What are the 3 most important things when considering value in real estate? "LOCATION! LOCATION! LOCATION! The current prices are definitely driven by economics, but not in the way of need. It has more to do of WHERE they are advertising. When the USA Classifieds were up, the prices set there were more reasonable because those providers who posted there also had access to the board. They could read what was being said, and the prices set by the popular ladies became the de facto "standard rate" with plusses and minuses given for youth, hotness, personality and quality of service. There was feedback that could be read and it functioned as Yelp did. New incoming girls could see what the standard rate was, and adjust their own pricing accordingly. Those that were overcharging could / would read comments about their rates and they were more inclined to make adjustments.

Nowadays, USA Classifieds is gone, and the new girls entering the biz are only seeing the rates set by their competition on Tryst and Eros, and Slixa, and they think that if Provider1 is charging $$ then they should also be charging $$ Then someone hotter comes along and decides to add a couple of $$ to that because, after all, if some ugly skank can charge $$ then surely they would be worth $$ a session. Newer girls comes along, sees the the 6 benjamins and before you know it, you got a 150/ hr girls asking 4 X what the market will actually bear.

Case in point, this newer Tryst poster: [URL]https://tryst.link/escort/sexxijessii[/URL] She is asking for 5 benjamins per hour. Never met her, and I certainly don't remember any reviews, so based solely on what I can see in the ad, there is no way anyone would part with a Mercedes car payment for an hour with her.

Location, location, location.

P.S.-- Looking at the ads, I think Maci Monroe is priced appropriately. She is reviewed, mostly positive with the negatives being her lack of respect for time and punctuality, and she does have a pleasing look. So, I am using her as my baseline of gauging rate vs. Return.[/QUOTE]Lots of good points, D Nut. Interestingly, the girl you referred to on Tryst also advertises on Listcrawler. I saw her last week for $100 for a half hour. She's OK but certainly nothing special and NO WAY is she worth $500.

[QUOTE=DNut;4998436]I don't live in the hobby. I merely vacation there. As I have stated before, my involvement in the hobby is to indulge a fantasy. I do so for an hour or two, then go back to the reality I live. There I have other passions and interests that challenge, amuse, bemuse, and yes, frustrate me. But it is precisely in the mundane that I find my mind stirring at the thought of my next monger encounter.

Ever read, "The paradox of hedonism"? There, it discusses the question of, "if a pleasure remains, does it remain a pleasure? Perhaps finding something else that demands your time and attention would give you a new appreciation for the little hobby vacations you take.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say I'm bored, but looking at ad (listcrawler Cincinnati) nothing is jumping out at me. I've found about 4 in Dayton I'm going to look into. One I know has been around a while and should be safe is Macii Monroe. There just doesn't seem to be much jumping out at me in Cincy at the moment.

Also in my 50's here. Age may be a factor, but here's another one: The options before us at present are simply not very good.

As others have noted, there are some young, chubby $100 girls asking for $500 or more:

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/naughtynicole-333[/URL]

And I know some of you with geriatric preferences like "MILFs". Fine and good. But there is a difference between a hot older woman (I acknowledge that they exist), and a beat-to-heck, overweight old woman:

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/annie-girl[/URL]

Or you can spend $450 on a woman whose cellulite-covered posterior could justify its own zip code:

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/karmyn-bankz[/URL]

Honestly, I don't know if these options would have appealed to me when I was a horny 16-year-old, and certainly not at these prices.

The good news: The market is historically cyclical. This, too, shall pass. If you're feeling unmotivated by the high-priced, low-quality options at present, hold on to your $ for now. COVID turned lots of markets upside down this year. Why should the hobby market be any different?

[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;4997630]For those who've been mongering for a while. Do you ever get bored with the hobby? I appear to be in such a phase now. Last time I got some was with Ariel about 3 months ago. For most of the time since then, I've wanted it yet not wanted it at the same time, if you know what I'm trying to say.

I think part of it is I'm getting tired of women in general. Not so much sexually, but more because their bullshit seems to get worse with each passing year (we can thank social media for that). COVID and the lack of quality providers here has probably put a damper on it too. But it's starting to feel kind of boring even apart from these things. Maybe after almost 10 years of pretty continuous hobby action, I'm starting to get de-sensitized to it. 20-something chicks with shaved mounds and tattoos were a novelty and a huge turn-on once upon a time. Now, the novelty has worn off. I used to know how many women I've slept with, now, I would have to go through all my posts here from the last 8 or 9 years to give even a rough estimate.

Maybe it's age too. I'm in my 50's. I've never needed those special pills, but losing some interest kind of bothers me anyway.

Can't really bring up this subject with anyone in everyday life, so am interested to hear your thoughts.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ToddCincy;5000349]Also in my 50's here. Age may be a factor, but here's another one: The options before us at present are simply not very good.

As others have noted, there are some young, chubby $100 girls asking for $500 or more:

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/naughtynicole-333[/URL]

And I know some of you with geriatric preferences like "MILFs". Fine and good. But there is a difference between a hot older woman (I acknowledge that they exist), and a beat-to-heck, overweight old woman:

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/annie-girl[/URL]

Or you can spend $450 on a woman whose cellulite-covered posterior could justify its own zip code:

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/karmyn-bankz[/URL]

Honestly, I don't know if these options would have appealed to me when I was a horny 16-year-old, and certainly not at these prices.

The good news: The market is historically cyclical. This, too, shall pass. If you're feeling unmotivated by the high-priced, low-quality options at present, hold on to your $ for now. COVID turned lots of markets upside down this year. Why should the hobby market be any different?[/QUOTE]Good post. I too am pretty much bored with the hobby, mostly because what is available. I don't prefer the geriatric overweight, underweight, sloppy, bad teeth, cellulite ridden providers that are available. Like I have said before I know we all have our preferences but its actually starting to irritate a little when some the post how "hot" and "great" they are. In fact it seems of all ages that's what is available today in this area. I see members with a lot of posts singing the praises of these provider and I just help but wondering what the hell they are thinking. Its one thing to see them post positively about their performance, but to say they are attractive and look good? C'Mon. Now. Thank god I have two very attractive utr's. But once again I know we all have our, some very strange, very questionable, preferences. It makes us who we are. I've posted before there are some mongers here I give their recommendations, at least in the looks dept, zero credibility based on what they have said about other providers. I hope you are right about the talent changing based on the up and down cycle. You may be right but I'm not so sure.

[QUOTE=Hooter12;5000661]Good post. I too am pretty much bored with the hobby, mostly because what is available. I don't prefer the geriatric overweight, underweight, sloppy, bad teeth, cellulite ridden providers that are available. Like I have said before I know we all have our preferences but its actually starting to irritate a little when some the post how "hot" and "great" they are. In fact it seems of all ages that's what is available today in this area. I see members with a lot of posts singing the praises of these provider and I just help but wondering what the hell they are thinking. Its one thing to see them post positively about their performance, but to say they are attractive and look good? C'Mon. Now. Thank god I have two very attractive utr's. But once again I know we all have our, some very strange, very questionable, preferences. It makes us who we are. I've posted before there are some mongers here I give their recommendations, at least in the looks dept, zero credibility based on what they have said about other providers. I hope you are right about the talent changing based on the up and down cycle. You may be right but I'm not so sure.[/QUOTE]Not sure if any of my recent reviews are ones you are talking about? But as far as looks. Saying someone is decent looking today, is comparing them with other providers of today. I agree, the overall quality of providers in all areas. Looks, performance, etc. Has gone downhill. So when saying some provider looks ok today, when comparing to providers a few years ago, isn't even close.

Only provider that has decent looks would by Katie / Kly30. She has a very nice body. Lolareal was only other one in recent times.

[QUOTE=Benji513;5001223]Not sure if any of my recent reviews are ones you are talking about? But as far as looks. Saying someone is decent looking today, is comparing them with other providers of today. I agree, the overall quality of providers in all areas. Looks, performance, etc. Has gone downhill. So when saying some provider looks ok today, when comparing to providers a few years ago, isn't even close.

Only provider that has decent looks would by Katie / Kly30. She has a very nice body. Lolareal was only other one in recent times.[/QUOTE]Mongering nowadays is like a game of bridge. If you can't find a good partner, you're better off with a good hand.

We all have our own tastes when seeking providers. What you think is great I may think she's bad. Ages to me do not matter as long as they are over 18 and under 50. I look for the average girls not the beauty Queens. I mainly judge a provider by performance. If I'm not sexually attracted to one I leave. I'm not into strippers LOL they are not worth a fuck in bed LOL. I've been with a few lesbians they are worse than strippers. In today world 98% are using drugs. Most of them have their BFs or husbands close by. Streetwalkers are now on new sites and liscrawler selling it for 150 to 200 a hour. They were getting 40 on the street. I had counted 4 of them on skip the games in one day last week. On list crawler the ads are full of them. A lot of you say I don't do streetwalkers. The hell you say their ads are up now and your fucking them at a higher rate that's all. I currently have 5 providers I see none with ads up and one that walks. That's the way it is today!! Lenny6746.

[QUOTE=DNut;5001326]Mongering nowadays is like a game of bridge. If you can't find a good partner, you're better off with a good hand.[/QUOTE]Yes, it's getting bad. Have to stock up good lotion.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5001401]We all have our own tastes when seeking providers. What you think is great I may think she's bad. Ages to me do not matter as long as they are over 18 and under 50. I look for the average girls not the beauty Queens. I mainly judge a provider by performance. If I'm not sexually attracted to one I leave. I'm not into strippers LOL they are not worth a fuck in bed LOL. I've been with a few lesbians they are worse than strippers. In today world 98% are using drugs. Most of them have their BFs or husbands close by. Streetwalkers are now on new sites and liscrawler selling it for 150 to 200 a hour. They were getting 40 on the street. I had counted 4 of them on skip the games in one day last week. On list crawler the ads are full of them. A lot of you say I don't do streetwalkers. The hell you say their ads are up now and your fucking them at a higher rate that's all. I currently have 5 providers I see none with ads up and one that walks. That's the way it is today!! Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]The difference is location. You aren't driving and parking and doing the deed in your car. You are paying more for them have a room to do the deed there. So if you want to do the deed in your car for 40, by all means do so. Some would rather pay more to have a room. To me, having a room is less risky. Plus it's more comfortable to have a bed than in an automobile. Now maybe if you had some suped up van or RV, be different. LOL.

I don't do it in my car, I don't use motels or hotels. I do it in my home I don't pay hour rates These girls are providers LOL. I just do it unlike most do I also treat them with respect not like a piece of fuck meat, We do have sex but its totally different than what you encounter, Lenny6746.

My wife woke up this morning and came into my office, and said, "Look at my forehead. I think a spider bit me!" After my hysterical laughter subsided to the point I could actually look at her forehead, it did indeed look like some bug had bit her during her slumber.

Many others have claimed to have such a wound, but I think this is the first actual insect bite I have ever seen.

I'm moderately certain she is not injecting heroin or other illicit drugs into her forehead.

I still giggle a little 9 or so hours later when I think about it.

I hope y'all find some amusement as well.

Cheers!

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5002469]I don't do it in my car, I don't use motels or hotels. I do it in my home I don't pay hour rates These girls are providers LOL. I just do it unlike most do I also treat them with respect not like a piece of fuck meat, We do have sex but its totally different than what you encounter, Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]Not sure by what you mean "what you encounter. "? I treat the providers well. What I was trying to get at was more along the lines of what is being provided in calculating what you should pay. So what calculates into that is transportation, the location, advertising, to name a few. If you are picking them up off the street, providing transportation and providing a room. That makes sense that the rate would be much cheaper. Because you are paying much of the cost yourself. But if she has to pay for online advertising, answering calls texts, is already at the location, and paying for the room. Then she is paying more costs and has to charge more. Some of us can't host or use vehicles. So we have to rely on incall locations. I don't pay hour rates, because I don't need that much time.

So Lenny, what are the rates you are used to paying for streetwalkers? So you drive around SW known areas, pick them up, take them back to your place, do whatever, and then drop them back off?

If you have 5 that don't have ads up, mind sharing? Especially if they have incall location.

[QUOTE=Lenny6746;5001401]We all have our own tastes when seeking providers. What you think is great I may think she's bad. Ages to me do not matter as long as they are over 18 and under 50. I look for the average girls not the beauty Queens. I mainly judge a provider by performance. If I'm not sexually attracted to one I leave. I'm not into strippers LOL they are not worth a fuck in bed LOL. I've been with a few lesbians they are worse than strippers. In today world 98% are using drugs. Most of them have their BFs or husbands close by. Streetwalkers are now on new sites and liscrawler selling it for 150 to 200 a hour. They were getting 40 on the street. I had counted 4 of them on skip the games in one day last week. On list crawler the ads are full of them. A lot of you say I don't do streetwalkers. The hell you say their ads are up now and your fucking them at a higher rate that's all. I currently have 5 providers I see none with ads up and one that walks. That's the way it is today!! Lenny6746.[/QUOTE]

I agree with what you say about the streetwalkers now dominating the online platforms. That's why the pickings are so slim nowadays.

As for age: 18 to 50 is quite a spread. That is barely legal to grandma territory. My standard is: under 35, with a focus on women under 30. I don't want to pay to boink grandmas.

As for average girls: I am fine with average girls. But what is an average girl?

To the me, an "average girl" is Ryann:

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/ryannxoxo[/URL]

She's not bad, but you wouldn't gawk at her if you saw her in public, either.

The problem is, most of the girls on the sites at present are not "average". They are old, fat, or simply unattractive:

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/vixen-simone[/URL]

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/karmyn-bankz[/URL]

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/katness0049-kik[/URL]

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/annie-girl[/URL]

[QUOTE=ToddCincy;5004009]I agree with what you say about the streetwalkers now dominating the online platforms. That's why the pickings are so slim nowadays.

As for age: 18 to 50 is quite a spread. That is barely legal to grandma territory. My standard is: under 35, with a focus on women under 30. I don't want to pay to boink grandmas.

As for average girls: I am fine with average girls. But what is an average girl?

To the me, an "average girl" is Ryann:

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/ryannxoxo[/URL]

She's not bad, but you wouldn't gawk at her if you saw her in public, either.

The problem is, most of the girls on the sites at present are not "average". They are old, fat, or simply unattractive:

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/vixen-simone[/URL]

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/karmyn-bankz[/URL]

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/katness0049-kik[/URL]

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/annie-girl[/URL][/QUOTE]I agree also, another one would be Katherine.

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/prettttykkitty[/URL]

If it is a spider bite it can get infected and grow and cause a major issue. I had one that I eventually had to get cut out and it was very painful. If it starts to get bigger tell her to put finger nail Polish on it and it will smother it and it won't get any larger.

[QUOTE=VinnieKramer;5002884]My wife woke up this morning and came into my office, and said, "Look at my forehead. I think a spider bit me!" After my hysterical laughter subsided to the point I could actually look at her forehead, it did indeed look like some bug had bit her during her slumber.

Many others have claimed to have such a wound, but I think this is the first actual insect bite I have ever seen.

I'm moderately certain she is not injecting heroin or other illicit drugs into her forehead.

I still giggle a little 9 or so hours later when I think about it.

I hope y'all find some amusement as well.

Cheers![/QUOTE]

There definitely is some swelling but not egregious.

[QUOTE=BuxKA;5004276]If it is a spider bite it can get infected and grow and cause a major issue. I had one that I eventually had to get cut out and it was very painful. If it starts to get bigger tell her to put finger nail Polish on it and it will smother it and it won't get any larger.[/QUOTE]

When initially contacting a provider. I use a dedicated monger number via [URL]textnow.com[/URL] - I often get crickets. I start off with something like "I just saw your ad," or "what part of town are you in?" or "where is incall" - because one of my deciding factors is how far away they are. I almost always use incall and never outcall, and rarely in the car. So do any of you experts have any advice on the initial text to better my chances of a response? I texted a provider who had posted an ad only minutes earlier, and I NEVER heard from her. ? Help?

[QUOTE=Filmbyter;5004729]When initially contacting a provider. I use a dedicated monger number via [URL]textnow.com[/URL] - I often get crickets. I start off with something like "I just saw your ad," or "what part of town are you in?" or "where is incall" - because one of my deciding factors is how far away they are. I almost always use incall and never outcall, and rarely in the car. So do any of you experts have any advice on the initial text to better my chances of a response? I texted a provider who had posted an ad only minutes earlier, and I NEVER heard from her. ? Help?[/QUOTE]I use the same app. Somedays are just dead. I usually start off with something like "are you available today?" Or "taking appointments today. ?' "I would like to setup something today with you. " Sometimes too, if you say you looking for hhr or hr helps over a qv.

[QUOTE=Filmbyter;5004729]When initially contacting a provider. I use a dedicated monger number via [URL]textnow.com[/URL] - I often get crickets. I start off with something like "I just saw your ad," or "what part of town are you in?" or "where is incall" - because one of my deciding factors is how far away they are. I almost always use incall and never outcall, and rarely in the car. So do any of you experts have any advice on the initial text to better my chances of a response? I texted a provider who had posted an ad only minutes earlier, and I NEVER heard from her. ? Help?[/QUOTE]I started using HB shotgun approach and it usually works sometime too good and I have to choose. Second I always lead with are you available. Then area if I don't know like when they say cincinnati or north. I like to know my general area I'm going so I don't waste their time and mine. Then I suggest my time limit qv, hhr, hr and sometime a time from hour to hour sometimes I say this is a short time offer. Lastly. I can't give you any info for Sat or sun because they are no play days for me. Usually I get no response until after 10 am mostly 11 most days. Mondays and Fridays are by far the worst days to hookup. All you horny fuckers either make up for the weekend or spending your extra cash on payday I guess. Well my 2 cents hope it helps stay safe and report back.

Nobody said anything negative about the girl.

[QUOTE=Sweep55;5008635]Nobody's mug shot is ever their best photo. We could be a little kinder.[/QUOTE]

We need to start one immediately to get this girl from London to come here. I've used this service in the past when I used to travel to London but DAMN I'm in lust with her video. Her rates and services really make me feel everything is overpriced here!

[URL]https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-paddington-ivory[/URL]

[QUOTE=JoGreen;5012674]We need to start one immediately to get this girl from London to come here. I've used this service in the past when I used to travel to London but DAMN I'm in lust with her video. Her rates and services really make me feel everything is overpriced here!

[URL]https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-paddington-ivory[/URL][/QUOTE]If I convert my Hilton Honors points to Delta Skymiles, I will have enough to either fly her here, or me go there, round trip business class. The latter is better for me because have you seen her DUO partners (plural) ? Holy fudgecicle. That makes the 3000 mile commute worth it.

[QUOTE=DNut;5012700]If I convert my Hilton Honors points to Delta Skymiles, I will have enough to either fly her here, or me go there, round trip business class. The latter is better for me because have you seen her DUO partners (plural) ? Holy fudgecicle. That makes the 3000 mile commute worth it.[/QUOTE]I'm totally in on this! Just regretting not working for the London based company anymore. I can only imagine how great the duos would be with her and just one of her partners. Add in a trip to Greece and I may retire now because it won't get much better!

[QUOTE=JoGreen;5012674]We need to start one immediately to get this girl from London to come here. I've used this service in the past when I used to travel to London but DAMN I'm in lust with her video. Her rates and services really make me feel everything is overpriced here!

[URL]https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-paddington-ivory[/URL][/QUOTE]Women of this caliber are not unusual throughout much of Europe, and at similar rates to here. In fact, you would be amazed at the talent pool.

CFG.

I heard that Prague is absolutely ridiculous. Stunning women for next to nothing prices.

[QUOTE=Cincyfunguy;5013480]Women of this caliber are not unusual throughout much of Europe, and at similar rates to here. In fact, you would be amazed at the talent pool.

CFG.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JoGreen;5012674]We need to start one immediately to get this girl from London to come here. I've used this service in the past when I used to travel to London but DAMN I'm in lust with her video. Her rates and services really make me feel everything is overpriced here!

[URL]https://www.divaescort.com/girls/brunette-paddington-ivory[/URL][/QUOTE]They have a section where they out the shitty ladies! Now that's a damn good service!

[QUOTE=Cincyfunguy;5013480]Women of this caliber are not unusual throughout much of Europe, and at similar rates to here. In fact, you would be amazed at the talent pool.

CFG.[/QUOTE]I started my hobby in Europe since you don't have to worry about Uncle LEO. First in Germany where I travelled frequently and then in London where I spent significant amount of time. Based upon my experience, the Polish girls far outpaced the Czech girls but both were spectacular and a bargain compared to what we have here. In addition to Diva, [URL]https://www.admiralescorts.com/[/URL] is another great source in London and if you use Frankfurt as your gateway airport [URL]https://diamondescort-frankfurt.de/[/URL] is also tops.

Then you go to Cincinnati section on Tryst and see how sad things are here.

[QUOTE=Dsa513;5014065]I started my hobby in Europe since you don't have to worry about Uncle LEO. First in Germany where I travelled frequently and then in London where I spent significant amount of time. Based upon my experience, the Polish girls far outpaced the Czech girls but both were spectacular and a bargain compared to what we have here. In addition to Diva, [URL]https://www.admiralescorts.com/[/URL] is another great source in London and if you use Frankfurt as your gateway airport [URL]https://diamondescort-frankfurt.de/[/URL] is also tops.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dsa513;5014065]I started my hobby in Europe since you don't have to worry about Uncle LEO. First in Germany where I travelled frequently and then in London where I spent significant amount of time. Based upon my experience, the Polish girls far outpaced the Czech girls but both were spectacular and a bargain compared to what we have here. In addition to Diva, [URL]https://www.admiralescorts.com/[/URL] is another great source in London and if you use Frankfurt as your gateway airport [URL]https://diamondescort-frankfurt.de/[/URL] is also tops.[/QUOTE]Who would have thought that when that iron curtain fell, it was to a bordello of Eastern block delights.

The first Forest answer gets maybe a nude from my MILF or Anpic of the highly coveted May.

What did this use to be before a church?

[QUOTE=SmokeyGringo;5017211]The first Forest answer gets maybe a nude from my MILF or Anpic of the highly coveted May.

What did this use to be before a church?[/QUOTE]Since you didn't include a pic, I'm just guessing a ***** house or massage parlor.

[QUOTE=SmokeyGringo;5017211]The first Forest answer gets maybe a nude from my MILF or Anpic of the highly coveted May.

What did this use to be before a church?[/QUOTE]Forest.

Am I the first to give a Forest answer?

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;5014196]Then you go to Cincinnati section on Tryst and see how sad things are here.[/QUOTE]Throughout the history of mankind providers have been smart enough to take their earnings and use it wisely on things like food, rent, clothes, and all the accoutrements of life. In the US, the girls take their earnings and buy drugs. Every single American-born provider I've ever been with in the US is on drugs. Every single damn one! Don't kid yourselves, guys. That little philly that you're convinced is a diamond in the rough is just as strung out as any other.

[QUOTE=BTBear;5017317]Since you didn't include a pic, I'm just guessing a ***** house or massage parlor.[/QUOTE]I had a few drinks in me, but the website won't let me upload a pic. It keeps failing because maybe it's over the KB limit but it's the old Deja Vu Strip Club, which is now a Church!

Are you talking about the Deja Vu in Mt. Carmel?

[QUOTE=SmokeyGringo;5017211]The first Forest answer gets maybe a nude from my MILF or Anpic of the highly coveted May.

What did this use to be before a church?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IrlFan;5017949]Are you talking about the Deja Vu in Mt. Carmel?[/QUOTE]Closed is as closed does.

CG7777.

Since two of us attempted to play along, without a pic how about sending us both pics of your UTR and May via PM?

[QUOTE=SmokeyGringo;5017211]The first Forest answer gets maybe a nude from my MILF or Anpic of the highly coveted May.

What did this use to be before a church?[/QUOTE]

May has been out of the business for years and why would I want a picture of your UTR? You do realize that there are free pictures of hot women all over the internet? What's next? Are you going to start advertising an "only fans" account?

[QUOTE=SmokeyGringo;5017211]The first Forest answer gets maybe a nude from my MILF or Anpic of the highly coveted May.

What did this use to be before a church?[/QUOTE]