Too many James Bond movies
[QUOTE=Jeep56; 1372584]You live and learn. I got caught as I was taking out cash advances at the bank and then the FBI had records of me entering a spa that very day. It wasn't that I paid them with a credit card. I paid cash every time except once. But it was the bank visits that they spliced together with my visit to the spa. They have access to every financial record you ever had. They even bought up my checking account and the with drawls I made. My house payments, my income, everything. They even had records of where I went to get gasoline, and what turnpike exit I got on when I left the spas.
I got a visit because I was going to an out of state Spa that was under surveillance which is interstate. So the FBI got involved. I almost got away with it as I parked away from the Spa and was really stealthy about going in. I always wore black with a hat to cover my face and went in at night in the back entrances. I drove a pick up truck and made sure my license plate was covered with mud. I should have known something was up when the mud was wiped away on my plate. They had records of me going into spas at Warren too. Nothing financial but photos of me and my truck.
I no longer use credit cards for anything. My personal choice. I don't like banks anyways. I hate giving them their cut. Plus I hate big brother.
Not almost died. Did die. For a short time. It was a night I always will remember.
My experience could teach others.
I'm not telling you not to go. It's up to you. Be a moth to a flame. Knock yourself out![/QUOTE]So your claiming the FBI was staking out a spa in another state and saw you go in. They found your activity criminal enough to follow you home to another state, that's how they got the turnpike exits, right? By walking into a spa they had enough probable cause to subpoena all your financial records. Then they kept you under 24 hour surveillance or staked out every local spa and saw you go into a local spa, correct? And not just one, but into "spas". Where they photographed you in your ninja outfit and compromised the expensive stakeout by wiping mud off your license plate?
And they did all this, spent thousands of dollars and many man-hours to bust you on a MISDEMEANOR! But they didn't even arrest you, they WARNED you.
OMFG! What color is the sky in your world? The Feebies don't warn people. They kick in the door with media right behind them. They want arrests, convictions and headlines. If you're going to make up a story, at least make it believable. Or do you look like Osama Bin Laden, he was alive at the time, so maybe that explains it.
Your best line is:"I almost got away with it." Got away with what? Walking into a spa?
Can anyone post the actual law?
Still waiting for a link to the actual law that was passed. Come on Jeep, Book anyone, find me a copy of the law so I can read what it actually says.
More of the proposal from MVOC that made it into the massage ordinances in brief.
More of the proposal from MVOC that made it into the massage ordinances in brief.
[quote]Warren Law Department's Proposed Changes (as of last reading)
While we thank the city in listening to the citizens and proposing some policy, we find that as it.
Stands, while written with good intentions, the Law Department's proposal does little beyond.
Reinforcing what is already currently being done. And clearly, with eight 'parlors' opening over the.
Last ten years, what is currently being done is not working.
1. Cap number of 'recreational' MP licenses to the current number (10).
• In the event parlors are closed, why not lower the cap for the number of licenses? If, as we're.
Told, we can legally limit the number of licenses to 10, why not 9, 8.7, etc? Additionally, while.
Positive, this does nothing to help ensure that the 10 already in existence are operating legally.
2. Increase licensing fees to $1600 fund additional monthly inspection, possibly outside of.
Normal business hours.
• We applaud the effort for and the general concept of more inspections; however, given that.
Inspectors are limited in their power and must still wait at locked doors and blocked-out.
Windows to be let in for sometimes minutes (plenty of time to hide any type of activity, just about.
Anything, or anyone for that matter) we see this as only a modest improvement.
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MVOC Municipal Legislative Recommendations for Massage Parlors.
'Commercial sex networks using massage parlor fronts represent one of the most widespread.
Criminal sex trafficking networks in the United States and exist in a majority of large urban areas and.
Increasingly in suburban and rural areas as well. '. Polaris Project Model Elements of Massage Parlor.
Ordinance to Combat Trafficking in Persons.
In order to ensure that massage parlors (not state licensed massage therapists) are not being used.
For commercial sex and are free of trafficking victims, the Mahoning Valley Organizing Collaborative.
Recommends in order of priority the following key changes in existing legislation and changes to cityregulated.
'recreational' massage parlors. For detailed legal explanations, please contact MVOC.
1. Require a certificate of completion from a Certified School of Massage and an appropriate.
Number of hours completed.
• Requiring certification does help to prevent a person from being moved in and out of.
Commercial sex trafficking establishments by providing a screening process for those purporting.
To be legitimate massage technicians. 100 hours from a certified school is an amount well.
Within legally sound guidelines, and well under the threshold for state certified massage.
Therapists, but presents a significant barrier for anyone who would seek to traffic victims through.
'massage parlor' fronts in Warren.
Identifying and Developing Leaders • Organizing Neighborhoods • Building Capacity to Achieve Healthy Communities.
2. Limit the hours of operation for massage parlors.
• Currently, parlors operate all hours, with several advertising 24/7 'services'. No legitimate.
Massage therapist is open for business at 3 AM on a Sunday. 'Customers' of illicit businesses.
Like to slink in when it is dark, we want them to come into the light.
3. Insert a trafficking victim immunity clause to legislation.
• Currently, in order to end the operation of a massage parlor, a woman must be charged with.
Prostitution. In a human trafficking context, this is essentially blaming the victim. Language.
Should be included to protect women who are potentially being held against their will or.
Otherwise coerced into employment at a massage parlor.
• As to the argument that prostitution charges are necessary to leverage testimony, we ask that in.
A real world where prostitution charges often merit only hours or at most a few days in jail. Does.
That minute leverage stand a chance at being effective. Especially when likely contrasted.
Against feared retribution from a pimp or madam who would be 'bailing them out'? Experts.
Agree that it is better to quickly get the victim out from the legal system and possibly even the.
City, and into the proper restorative services. Upon feeling safe and comfortable the trafficking.
Victim would be more likely to lend themselves to assisting in any prosecution.
4. Require that applicants present valid immigration and work authorization, if applicable.
• A majority of those licensed as massage technicians in area massage parlors are not Americanborn.
Citizens and don't speak English. Traffickers have been known to take victims'
Authorization papers to disenfranchise them and make them fear authority figures like police.
They use the fear of deportation as a mechanism of control to intimidate victims into bondage. It.
Is essential to know that those working in massage parlors have ready and free access to.
Legitimate documents authorizing them to be in the United States and working.
5. Streamline massage parlor licensing process with a checklist of required documentation.
• Currently, the licensing documents are haphazard and inconsistent. There are cases where.
Applicants who received licenses do not have all documentation represented with the Health.
Department as well as a case where license should not have been approved.
• These checklists should then be posted on the city's website along with the results of.
Inspections, at whatever regular interval they occur. Officials claim that each massage parlor.
Within city limits is legal under city ordinances, up to code, and passes regular inspections. This.
Information should be made readily accessible to the public.
6. Require a copy of the lease and a signed form from the business's property owner,
Indicating that he or she is aware that a massage establishment is located on the premise.
• Information acquired from sex tourism sites is disturbing and indicates illegal activity is occurring.
In area massage parlors. Every precaution should be taken to make property owners aware of.
The type of business operating in his or her building and the potential for illegal activity to occur.
There. This also helps to negate any public profession of ignorance in substantiated findings of.
Illegal activity, as the landlord would in fact be profiting from sex trafficking.
7. Require Professional Masseuse Liability Insurance.
• Some municipalities have insisted that non-medical massage establishments hold a malpractice.
Insurance policy of $500K to protect consumers. This is not unreasonable, both to protect any.
Genuine legitimate recreational massage therapists and their patients / customers.
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