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[QUOTE=Mcsylv;5685209]Hong Kong Club is the most well known in that area. Strip clubs are brothels in TJ, see a girl and tell her you want to go upstairs, you leave the club and get a room at the hotel next door for 30 min or 1 hour. Pay the hotel, then in the room pay the girl.
Most are CFS from what I understand, since they're high traffic working girls. Maybe you can get BBFS if you have the right rapport or pay extra.[/QUOTE]BBFS bang for the buck, and effort is on SA in TJ.
[QUOTE=Nygmen81;5685617]A lot has been said about Abby over the years and as much as I knew better I continued seeing her but today I reached my limit. I met her at her house and she suggested starting with a shower. Seeing as how I saw someone leaving when I got there that was more than ok with me. Stupidly I left my donation on the table as I took my clothes off. I hopped in the shower and she was right behind me and then said to give her a minute next thing I know I hear the front door open and close. She left just like that. Not without the donation of course. She said she was going to get Ice. It didn't take long to realize she wasn't coming back anytime soon and I wasn't just going to sit in her apartment so I left but let her know I would give her a chance to make it right later as she said she would be at Mandalay Bay. Fast forward a few hrs later and I texted her to come there and she said yes. I'm 5 minutes away and she has the nerve to ask for another $100. That wasn't happening and unsurprisingly I got ghosted from that point forward. I blame myself for leaving the donation like I did so I'll take the L but I've learned my lesson the hard way so no more Abby for me.[/QUOTE]Did she not have anything in her apartment worth $100 that you could take? LOL.
[QUOTE=Nygmen81;5685617]...I've learned my lesson the hard way so no more Abby for me.[/QUOTE]You kept seeing Abby and I respectfully submit that you'll keep seeing Abby even after this little dust-up. Why? Because she has no real competition when it comes to hot AF cum dumpsters who will spread a long lovely pair of legs and eagerly take every load you can drop without complaint. For a fair price. Even for +100 we all know that Abby is a steal. Oh sure you can go find some cheap raggedy ass skanky fugly old hoe who would make most guys wretch & run for the hills and if that works for you? That's great. For the rest of us? Abby remains a guilty pleasure and we all know that we risk a worst-case "Abby Experience" like you describe here. As someone who has fucked Abby literally hundreds of times I can tell you that ditching clients mid-session is her latest "trick". It's extremely frustrating but it goes with the territory, apparently. My advice to anyone who will listen is this. No matter what. The minute you see Abby? Fuck her. Seriously. Don't wait, just strip and fuck the ***** as hard & as long as you can. Pound the shit out of her. Then if you want to shower / have a drink / chat / whatever with her? It could happen. Or maybe not. That's why fucking her the minute you see the whites of her trademark eyes with their dark artificial eyebrows is like an insurance policy. If she ditches you five minutes later? She's leaving with a pussy dripping with all the cum you could muster. That counts for something. And you can let her go until next time without feeling like you have been completely ripped off. There is no worse feeling and I'm sorry that happened to you.
[QUOTE=BiffBallly;5685823]You kept seeing Abby and I respectfully submit that you'll keep seeing Abby even after this little dust-up. Why? Because she has no real competition when it comes to hot AF cum dumpsters who will spread a long lovely pair of legs and eagerly take every load you can drop without complaint. For a fair price. Even for +100 we all know that Abby is a steal. Oh sure you can go find some cheap raggedy ass skanky fugly old hoe who would make most guys wretch & run for the hills and if that works for you? That's great. For the rest of us? Abby remains a guilty pleasure and we all know that we risk a worst-case "Abby Experience" like you describe here. As someone who has fucked Abby literally hundreds of times I can tell you that ditching clients mid-session is her latest "trick". It's extremely frustrating but it goes with the territory, apparently. My advice to anyone who will listen is this. No matter what. The minute you see Abby? Fuck her. Seriously. Don't wait, just strip and fuck the ***** as hard & as long as you can. Pound the shit out of her. Then if you want to shower / have a drink / chat / whatever with her? It could happen. Or maybe not. That's why fucking her the minute you see the whites of her trademark eyes with their dark artificial eyebrows is like an insurance policy. If she ditches you five minutes later? She's leaving with a pussy dripping with all the cum you could muster. That counts for something. And you can let her go until next time without feeling like you have been completely ripped off. There is no worse feeling and I'm sorry that happened to you.[/QUOTE]Great advice. Never ever ever wait. She is always double and triple booking and somehow she thinks it's OK. She still randomly texts me but no way am I going back.
The last time she ditched out I thought she was really coming back because she left her phone. It was worth it though to read her incoming texts. Some of her clients are fkn twisted. LOL.
I contemplated dropping it in a toilet and leaving a deuce with it. But took the high road and left. It is interesting to look around her room, she has some very scary habits that explains why she is always broke. No way am I going back.
[QUOTE=Mcsylv;5685800]Did she not have anything in her apartment worth $100 that you could take? LOL.[/QUOTE]I was JUST getting ready to type this question, but you beat me to it.
[QUOTE=BiffBallly;5685823]You kept seeing Abby and I respectfully submit that you'll keep seeing Abby even after this little dust-up. Why? Because she has no real competition when it comes to hot AF cum dumpsters who will spread a long lovely pair of legs and eagerly take every load you can drop without complaint. For a fair price. Even for +100 we all know that Abby is a steal. Oh sure you can go find some cheap raggedy ass skanky fugly old hoe who would make most guys wretch & run for the hills and if that works for you? That's great. For the rest of us? Abby remains a guilty pleasure and we all know that we risk a worst-case "Abby Experience" like you describe here. As someone who has fucked Abby literally hundreds of times I can tell you that ditching clients mid-session is her latest "trick". It's extremely frustrating but it goes with the territory, apparently. My advice to anyone who will listen is this. No matter what. The minute you see Abby? Fuck her. Seriously. Don't wait, just strip and fuck the ***** as hard & as long as you can. Pound the shit out of her. Then if you want to shower / have a drink / chat / whatever with her? It could happen. Or maybe not. That's why fucking her the minute you see the whites of her trademark eyes with their dark artificial eyebrows is like an insurance policy. If she ditches you five minutes later? She's leaving with a pussy dripping with all the cum you could muster. That counts for something. And you can let her go until next time without feeling like you have been completely ripped off. There is no worse feeling and I'm sorry that happened to you.[/QUOTE]IDK man, the combo of Abby's looks + service + price is really not exceptional. Abby is a 7/10 AT BEST. Her service, as noted in my post, was lackluster beyond BBFS. No anal, nothing kinkier than just vanilla sex. Her price was five benjis for 1 hour, which is VERY standard and not a fantastic discount over what others offer.
Trinity provides better service at lower price, looks a little worse than Abby. She did BBAnal and ATP with no complaints. Charged a little more than half of Abby's rate.
I've been using SA a lot and have plenty of hotter girls than Abby who aren't on drugs, able to hold conversations and are charming. Able to BBFS for either Abby's rate, or slightly more / less.
[QUOTE=Mcsylv;5686187]IDK man, the combo of Abby's looks + service + price is really not exceptional. Abby is a 7/10 AT BEST. Her service, as noted in my post, was lackluster beyond BBFS. No anal, nothing kinkier than just vanilla sex. Her price was five benjis for 1 hour, which is VERY standard and not a fantastic discount over what others offer.
Trinity provides better service at lower price, looks a little worse than Abby. She did BBAnal and ATP with no complaints. Charged a little more than half of Abby's rate.
I've been using SA a lot and have plenty of hotter girls than Abby who aren't on drugs, able to hold conversations and are charming. Able to BBFS for either Abby's rate, or slightly more / less.[/QUOTE]If you are paying 5 Benji's for an hour with Abby you are crazy. You can get her a bottle of Jamison and a Benji.
Abby WAS a 9/10 but now a 7/10 is probably accurate and as someone who doesn't care about kinks other than BBFS I don't care about how kinky she is. You are right though you can find MUCH better but its a lot of work and risk. I have found some absolute gems but for every gem I go through 10-20 complete mediocre ones.
[QUOTE=BiffBallly;5685823]You kept seeing Abby and I respectfully submit that you'll keep seeing Abby even after this little dust-up. Why? Because she has no real competition when it comes to hot AF cum dumpsters who will spread a long lovely pair of legs and eagerly take every load you can drop without complaint. For a fair price. Even for +100 we all know that Abby is a steal. Oh sure you can go find some cheap raggedy ass skanky fugly old hoe who would make most guys wretch & run for the hills and if that works for you? That's great. For the rest of us? Abby remains a guilty pleasure and we all know that we risk a worst-case "Abby Experience" like you describe here. As someone who has fucked Abby literally hundreds of times I can tell you that ditching clients mid-session is her latest "trick". It's extremely frustrating but it goes with the territory, apparently. My advice to anyone who will listen is this. No matter what. The minute you see Abby? Fuck her. Seriously. Don't wait, just strip and fuck the ***** as hard & as long as you can. Pound the shit out of her. Then if you want to shower / have a drink / chat / whatever with her? It could happen. Or maybe not. That's why fucking her the minute you see the whites of her trademark eyes with their dark artificial eyebrows is like an insurance policy. If she ditches you five minutes later? She's leaving with a pussy dripping with all the cum you could muster. That counts for something. And you can let her go until next time without feeling like you have been completely ripped off. There is no worse feeling and I'm sorry that happened to you.[/QUOTE]I did keep seeing her and that's on me. I 100% accept the blame for what happened but at a certain point you just have to say enough is enough. It's fair of you to assume I will continue to see her and while I would be naive to say I will 100% never see her again its certainly not probable or likely at this point. The issue with the +100 was the fact I already got scammed once so why would I ever give her more? It would have been different if she asked for that upfront though in this particular case she still probably would have dipped out. I get what you're saying about what to do when you first see her and based on her condition most of the time I'm sure it works but that's never been my style with anyone including Abby even if that would produce the "best results". For me personally if I have to start doing that it's not worth it but I would never judge what works for others. People are going to continue to see Abby and that's fine I'm not trying to start an anti-Abby crusade here I just wanted to put what happened to me out there so at least anyone who sees it can make a better decision if they aren't sure about seeing her for the first time. I would appreciate it if I saw the same in regards to anybody I was interested in seeing for the first time.
[QUOTE=Mcsylv;5685800]Did she not have anything in her apartment worth $100 that you could take? LOL.[/QUOTE]From the looks of it I doubt it but even if there was it wouldn't have mattered I wouldn't have taken anything. I messed up so like I said I took the loss. I was pissed last night for sure but I'm already moving on and I'll find other options out there.
[QUOTE=Nygmen81;5685617]A lot has been said about Abby over the years and as much as I knew better I continued seeing her but today I reached my limit. I met her at her house and she suggested starting with a shower. Seeing as how I saw someone leaving when I got there that was more than ok with me. Stupidly I left my donation on the table as I took my clothes off. I hopped in the shower and she was right behind me and then said to give her a minute next thing I know I hear the front door open and close. She left just like that. Not without the donation of course. She said she was going to get Ice. It didn't take long to realize she wasn't coming back anytime soon and I wasn't just going to sit in her apartment so I left but let her know I would give her a chance to make it right later as she said she would be at Mandalay Bay. Fast forward a few hrs later and I texted her to come there and she said yes. I'm 5 minutes away and she has the nerve to ask for another $100. That wasn't happening and unsurprisingly I got ghosted from that point forward. I blame myself for leaving the donation like I did so I'll take the L but I've learned my lesson the hard way so no more Abby for me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IceCreamLicker;5686061]Great advice. Never ever ever wait. She is always double and triple booking and somehow she thinks it's OK. She still randomly texts me but no way am I going back.
The last time she ditched out I thought she was really coming back because she left her phone. It was worth it though to read her incoming texts. Some of her clients are fkn twisted. LOL.
I contemplated dropping it in a toilet and leaving a deuce with it. But took the high road and left. It is interesting to look around her room, she has some very scary habits that explains why she is always broke. No way am I going back.[/QUOTE]Personally, I would have unplugged every appliance, lamp, tv, stereo, etc in the joint (so as not to get electrocuted), and then I would have sliced the cords off right at the base where they enter each device. The cords would have left with me, and gone into a trashcan somewhere else, and the thief would end up sitting in a dark apartment with nothing to do but reflect on her wayward behavior.
But that's just me.
Dick.
[QUOTE=EagleLuver;5686231]If you are paying 5 Benji's for an hour with Abby you are crazy. You can get her a bottle of Jamison and a Benji.
Abby WAS a 9/10 but now a 7/10 is probably accurate and as someone who doesn't care about kinks other than BBFS I don't care about how kinky she is. You are right though you can find MUCH better but its a lot of work and risk. I have found some absolute gems but for every gem I go through 10-20 complete mediocre ones.[/QUOTE]LOL I guess you guys are getting the insider price. I hit her up on HX, got quoted 5 benjis, she came over and I DID have Jameson for her. She poured a glass, took a couple sips, we fucked 2 rounds with her kinda rushing me, then she showered and put her clothes on and asked for the 500.
Curious how your experience goes when you see her. Does she know you from way back and back then she always did 100, so that's what you give her? Do you negotiate over text and she accepts 100? Does she show up expecting more, and you just tell her you only have 100 after you fuck her?
Also curious as to whether Tasia and Trinity are also available for way lower rates. Tasia quoted me 600/ hr and Trinity 280/ hr.
[QUOTE=Mcsylv;5686305]LOL I guess you guys are getting the insider price. I hit her up on HX, got quoted 5 benjis, she came over and I DID have Jameson for her. She poured a glass, took a couple sips, we fucked 2 rounds with her kinda rushing me, then she showered and put her clothes on and asked for the 500.
Curious how your experience goes when you see her. Does she know you from way back and back then she always did 100, so that's what you give her? Do you negotiate over text and she accepts 100? Does she show up expecting more, and you just tell her you only have 100 after you fuck her?
Also curious as to whether Tasia and Trinity are also available for way lower rates. Tasia quoted me 600/ hr and Trinity 280/ hr.[/QUOTE]I saw her Thursday night at her incall at cosmo. She only asked for 300. She was high as a kite on something. Def not alcohol. She did offer me a drink, which I politely declined (water, soda, jameson). Was a fairly lackluster session. Some bad odor down there which I didn't realize until I was already in her. But she did get me to bust in her cip. She wanted me to go again, but I didn't want to deal with the smell, and the fact that she was struggling to put a coherent sentence together. Bolted out after 1 round.
[QUOTE=Mcsylv;5684410]I thought FKK was more expensive than that? $55 is Tijuana prices.[/QUOTE]This is one of the so called "Red Carpet Clubs" in Northern Germany. Entry into club is only 30 euro, and 50 euro for 30 min is the standard. Granted these RTC clubs are not as nice and the BIG FKK, and they are often out and off the beat and path but I am not there to enjoy the sauna and the food. There are three clubs I go to in the area, all pretty much cater to "Germans Only" and if any regular guy showed up at the door, they would likely be denied entry. I was able to gain entry with my German Friend who is a "stammgast", who goes to these clubs usually 4 times a week and fucks 3 times a day. He is very well known, and received his endorsement so I am good to go by myself now. One of the three clubs, I still cannot get into without my friend, but with the one 20 yo "Russian Model" that works at the 3rd club it is worth coordinating schedules.
So yes if you go to a big mainline FKK near Frankfurt such as Oase or Sharks, you will pay 70 euro to get in, and 100 euro for a shitty CBJ, but I have not been to one of those clubs in years.
[QUOTE=SfoDavid67;5686499]This is one of the so called "Red Carpet Clubs" in Northern Germany. Entry into club is only 30 euro, and 50 euro for 30 min is the standard. Granted these RTC clubs are not as nice and the BIG FKK, and they are often out and off the beat and path but I am not there to enjoy the sauna and the food. There are three clubs I go to in the area, all pretty much cater to "Germans Only" and if any regular guy showed up at the door, they would likely be denied entry. I was able to gain entry with my German Friend who is a "stammgast", who goes to these clubs usually 4 times a week and fucks 3 times a day. He is very well known, and received his endorsement so I am good to go by myself now. One of the three clubs, I still cannot get into without my friend, but with the one 20 yo "Russian Model" that works at the 3rd club it is worth coordinating schedules.
So yes if you go to a big mainline FKK near Frankfurt such as Oase or Sharks, you will pay 70 euro to get in, and 100 euro for a shitty CBJ, but I have not been to one of those clubs in years.[/QUOTE]Interesting, why would girls work in these small clubs? Are they not attractive enough for the bigger clubs where they can charge more, and don't have to BBFS 8 dudes a day?
[QUOTE=Mcsylv;5686305]LOL I guess you guys are getting the insider price. I hit her up on HX, got quoted 5 benjis, she came over and I DID have Jameson for her. She poured a glass, took a couple sips, we fucked 2 rounds with her kinda rushing me, then she showered and put her clothes on and asked for the 500.
Curious how your experience goes when you see her. Does she know you from way back and back then she always did 100, so that's what you give her? Do you negotiate over text and she accepts 100? Does she show up expecting more, and you just tell her you only have 100 after you fuck her?
Also curious as to whether Tasia and Trinity are also available for way lower rates. Tasia quoted me 600/ hr and Trinity 280/ hr.[/QUOTE]Speaking for myself I've never paid more than 200 to see Abby and this is going back to 2019. There's been times when I was on my way and she would text so you have 300? Or some other amount and I would just say what she agreed to and she responded ok and that was that. If she asked me to pick up drinks I would but I could never see spending 500 just based on the unpredictability alone but to each their own.
Way to stay disciplined guys April is once again $100 down from $300.
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