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I have been seeing a young girl for the past 6 months who is just an incredible lover! All that dirty talk she does is a major turn on for me. Gets me super hard with her bbbjdt skills. Begs me to fuck her, but to fuck her hard! Licks my neck while I am fulfilling her request. Talks dirty in my ear about how a bad girl she has been, not to hold anything back. Very submissive, will do anything I tell her to do. If more SO's would treat their guys that way, there wouldn't be any separations. I See DT 2 to 3 times a week. But started noticing injection marks on her arm. She denies that she's doing anything. But hard to deny those marks. I would like to help her out. Does anyone know where I can take her and what the costs would be?

Rich.

[QUOTE=Rich5;5384540]I have been seeing a young girl for the past 6 months who is just an incredible lover! All that dirty talk she does is a major turn on for me. Gets me super hard with her bbbjdt skills. Begs me to fuck her, but to fuck her hard! Licks my neck while I am fulfilling her request. Talks dirty in my ear about how a bad girl she has been, not to hold anything back. Very submissive, will do anything I tell her to do. If more SO's would treat their guys that way, there wouldn't be any separations. I See DT 2 to 3 times a week. But started noticing injection marks on her arm. She denies that she's doing anything. But hard to deny those marks. I would like to help her out. Does anyone know where I can take her and what the costs would be?

Rich.[/QUOTE]Guy, if she's using and denying it, what makes you think you can take her anywhere to get cleaned up? She 1st has to confront her demons and admit she has a problem. 2nd, she has to have the desire to want to get clean. Otherwise, it's a waste of time. Trust me. I have experience in this area.

Be safe out there and happy hunting.

NC HUNTER.

[QUOTE=Rich5;5384540]I have been seeing a young girl for the past 6 months who is just an incredible lover! All that dirty talk she does is a major turn on for me. Gets me super hard with her bbbjdt skills. Begs me to fuck her, but to fuck her hard! Licks my neck while I am fulfilling her request. Talks dirty in my ear about how a bad girl she has been, not to hold anything back. Very submissive, will do anything I tell her to do. If more SO's would treat their guys that way, there wouldn't be any separations. I See DT 2 to 3 times a week. But started noticing injection marks on her arm. She denies that she's doing anything. But hard to deny those marks. I would like to help her out. Does anyone know where I can take her and what the costs would be?

Rich.[/QUOTE]The first thing to getting help is acceptance that you have a problem. If she can't be truthful with you and more importantly with herself you are wasting your time and money. You are also running a risk of contracting some kind of disease, If your not careful.

Stay safe.

Orlo.

[QUOTE=Rich5;5384540]I have been seeing a young girl for the past 6 months who is just an incredible lover! All that dirty talk she does is a major turn on for me. Gets me super hard with her bbbjdt skills. Begs me to fuck her, but to fuck her hard! Licks my neck while I am fulfilling her request. Talks dirty in my ear about how a bad girl she has been, not to hold anything back. Very submissive, will do anything I tell her to do. If more SO's would treat their guys that way, there wouldn't be any separations. I See DT 2 to 3 times a week. But started noticing injection marks on her arm. She denies that she's doing anything. But hard to deny those marks. I would like to help her out. Does anyone know where I can take her and what the costs would be?

Rich.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NCHunter;5385019]Guy, if she's using and denying it, what makes you think you can take her anywhere to get cleaned up? She 1st has to confront her demons and admit she has a problem. 2nd, she has to have the desire to want to get clean. Otherwise, it's a waste of time. Trust me. I have experience in this area.

Be safe out there and happy hunting.

NC HUNTER.[/QUOTE]Just as NC says, she has to WANT to get clean to get clean. Denial isn't a call for help.

Rehab can be a revolving door for these girls. Many of them check in and haul ass after a few days or less! If you are paying out of pocket, it can cost in the 5 digits for a full program. Some of the girls "check in" and get free help through gov't programs but again, since it's voluntary to be there, the girl will haul ass as soon as she needs a hit bad enough. I tried to "help out" a few over the years to check in but every single time the girl either changed her mind before check in or was there a few days before they split. One literally walked out the door as they were opening the door to take her back, changed out of her comfy clothes (went full nudity) out at the car into a flashy outfit and started to make her way back home any way she could. She actually got into a pick up truck with some dude to make the 80 mile journey back home. I saw her again 3 days later walking the streets back at her home town strung out beyond belief.

That particular place (years ago) told me it was 15 LARGE for their program if not using some sort of subsidy. WTF! Luckily I never paid a dime for any of that shit but I will tell you, it is quite a learning experience on the lifestyle as a whole. While waiting for one to check in, I sat in a waiting room once with a guy here in Orlando at the place off Gore who said he had been in 4 times before and was back to try again. He came from a well-to-do family, his dad was a local MD. He told me of how he had been in and out of the facility. His family abandoned him basically although his mother dropped him off (she didn't want to pay) at the place alone for him to check in. He told me how he sucked and fk'd his way to earn the money to stay high pretty much every day. He was dressed like a preppy boy at a gay yacht club, white 3/4 length white pants, a flowery shirt and a bandana around his neck. He also looked like he hadn't slept in days.

I will guess that your girl will go downhill more and more over time. I would stay alert for theft issues. Just like with ANY provider, don't trust them for a second!

Just my take.

Grain 56.

[QUOTE=Rich5;5384540]I have been seeing a young girl for the past 6 months who is just an incredible lover! All that dirty talk she does is a major turn on for me. Gets me super hard with her bbbjdt skills. Begs me to fuck her, but to fuck her hard! Licks my neck while I am fulfilling her request. Talks dirty in my ear about how a bad girl she has been, not to hold anything back. Very submissive, will do anything I tell her to do. If more SO's would treat their guys that way, there wouldn't be any separations. I See DT 2 to 3 times a week. But started noticing injection marks on her arm. She denies that she's doing anything. But hard to deny those marks. I would like to help her out. Does anyone know where I can take her and what the costs would be?

Rich.[/QUOTE]I hate to say it, but walk away. You can't help someone that doesn't admit they have a problem or want help. So until she you would not be able to. Just keep a eye on your stuff in case you start missing stuff.

[QUOTE=Bjceb;5384532]Yes RiP Tiffany.

Unfortunately there has been alot of providers recently that had the same fate.

Sad![/QUOTE]Damn I was just thinking about her a couple days ago, driving thru the last area I saw her over in seminole co. RIP to her, I hope she's at peace now. Be careful out there brothers.

[QUOTE=Rich5;5384540]I have been seeing a young girl for the past 6 months who is just an incredible lover! All that dirty talk she does is a major turn on for me. Gets me super hard with her bbbjdt skills. Begs me to fuck her, but to fuck her hard! Licks my neck while I am fulfilling her request. Talks dirty in my ear about how a bad girl she has been, not to hold anything back. Very submissive, will do anything I tell her to do. If more SO's would treat their guys that way, there wouldn't be any separations. I See DT 2 to 3 times a week. But started noticing injection marks on her arm. She denies that she's doing anything. But hard to deny those marks. I would like to help her out. Does anyone know where I can take her and what the costs would be?

Rich.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.orangecountyfl.net/FamiliesHealthSocialSvcs/OrangeCountyHeroinTaskForce/HeroesAgainstHeroin/TreatmentResources.aspx[/URL]#. YL2 DwmT3 aEc.

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[QUOTE=Rich5;5384540]I have been seeing a young girl for the past 6 months who is just an incredible lover! All that dirty talk she does is a major turn on for me. Gets me super hard with her bbbjdt skills. Begs me to fuck her, but to fuck her hard! Licks my neck while I am fulfilling her request. Talks dirty in my ear about how a bad girl she has been, not to hold anything back. Very submissive, will do anything I tell her to do. If more SO's would treat their guys that way, there wouldn't be any separations. I See DT 2 to 3 times a week. But started noticing injection marks on her arm. She denies that she's doing anything. But hard to deny those marks. I would like to help her out. Does anyone know where I can take her and what the costs would be?

Rich.[/QUOTE]Anyone else started hearing J Cole beats in the background?

[QUOTE=OdinsBeard78;5385188]Damn I was just thinking about her a couple days ago, driving thru the last area I saw her over in seminole co. RIP to her, I hope she's at peace now. Be careful out there brothers.[/QUOTE]Rest in peace Tiff Will always remember the good times we shared together miss you RIP.

[QUOTE=Lehmonade;5385369]Anyone else started hearing J Cole beats in the background[/QUOTE]"Sometimes I think pain is just a lack of understanding.

If we could only understand it all, would we feel no pain?

[QUOTE=Grain56;5385096]Just as NC says, she has to WANT to get clean to get clean. Denial isn't a call for help.

Rehab can be a revolving door for these girls. Many of them check in and haul ass after a few days or less! If you are paying out of pocket, it can cost in the 5 digits for a full program. Some of the girls "check in" and get free help through gov't programs but again, since it's voluntary to be there, the girl will haul ass as soon as she needs a hit bad enough. I tried to "help out" a few over the years to check in but every single time the girl either changed her mind before check in or was there a few days before they split. One literally walked out the door as they were opening the door to take her back, changed out of her comfy clothes (went full nudity) out at the car into a flashy outfit and started to make her way back home any way she could. She actually got into a pick up truck with some dude to make the 80 mile journey back home. I saw her again 3 days later walking the streets back at her home town strung out beyond belief.

That particular place (years ago) told me it was 15 LARGE for their program if not using some sort of subsidy. WTF! Luckily I never paid a dime for any of that shit but I will tell you, it is quite a learning experience on the lifestyle as a whole. While waiting for one to check in, I sat in a waiting room once with a guy here in Orlando at the place off Gore who said he had been in 4 times before and was back to try again. He came from a well-to-do family, his dad was a local MD. He told me of how he had been in and out of the facility. His family abandoned him basically although his mother dropped him off (she didn't want to pay) at the place alone for him to check in. He told me how he sucked and fk'd his way to earn the money to stay high pretty much every day. He was dressed like a preppy boy at a gay yacht club, white 3/4 length white pants, a flowery shirt and a bandana around his neck. He also looked like he hadn't slept in days.

I will guess that your girl will go downhill more and more over time. I would stay alert for theft issues. Just like with ANY provider, don't trust them for a second!

Just my take.

Grain 56.[/QUOTE]Very much agree with all of you! It will be a long road to recovery, and yes I have been seeing her going downhill. Hot looking blonde not looking hot any more, how unfortunate. I have no problems taking her to my place but can't handle the abuse. I went through this before with another girl and it ended in a day. Thanks for your advices!

Rich.

[QUOTE=Orlo69;5385077]The first thing to getting help is acceptance that you have a problem. If she can't be truthful with you and more importantly with herself you are wasting your time and money. You are also running a risk of contracting some kind of disease, If your not careful.

Stay safe.

Orlo.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=OliverOil;5385268][URL]https://www.orangecountyfl.net/FamiliesHealthSocialSvcs/OrangeCountyHeroinTaskForce/HeroesAgainstHeroin/TreatmentResources.aspx[/URL]#. YL2 DwmT3 aEc.

Reaching out for help is a critical step in treating opioid and heroin addiction. Individuals dealing with addiction who are ready to take action against the cycle of drug abuse, as well as their family members and friends, can find help from the following organizations and information resources.[/QUOTE]But if she's denying it's already going to be a problem. If I can convince her to get help, will of course try the location you provided. This is the information I was looking for. Thanks for the Help!

Rich.

Hey guys I'm just wondering if anyone has seen these women recently or at all. A few I've text and got hit with a high rate or there ad calls for it. Just trying to see if these girls are actually getting these rates or if there's room to go lower; Also idk how many of these women are getting the increased unemployment but since that ends this month I wonder if rates will go down.

Breezy.

I text her and she seems cool actually, only problem was her qv rate (which I was going to do just to try her out) but she also wanted a picture verification. I was going to send a pic of a guy that kind of looks like me but she wanted one of me holding the donation so I passed for now.

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Natalia.

I've asked about her in the past, but since then I haven't seen any post or reviews about her so I'm wondering is she even real. She has been posting for awhile with the same pics / rate / ad description so idk.

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Dior.

I think she used to go by Tatianna and awhile ago I tried to see her but she wanted $120 outcall only at the time so I passed. Pictures have a lot of filters so not sure how she might really look.

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Anna & Sarah.

Okay now these 2 are a mystery to me. I've seen a few positive reviews for Anna and was going to text her for a visit, but just before the holiday weekend I see that both of these girl are now doing $100 BBBJ only. I thought maybe just for the week they might be on their cycle, but I looked at past post and that doesn't seem to be the case, seems like they've gotten used to getting paid more and are expecting it now. I tried texting Sarah to ask about BBBJ only or FS too and I just got a response of "yeah $100".

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[QUOTE=Rich5;5385792]But if she's denying it's already going to be a problem. If I can convince her to get help, will of course try the location you provided. This is the information I was looking for. Thanks for the Help!

Rich.[/QUOTE]Rich I've been in your shoes. I had a sexy little Latina from Puerto Rico, man I loved to fuck that girl. She had a nice compact little body super nice round Latina as and she was a talker and screamer. But like you I also started seeing marks and bruise's on her. I confronted her and she denied it. Finally she admitted but didn't want to go to treatment. I finally had to let her go one day I sat up in the bed right after we finished fucking and almost got a needle stuck in me that was laying there all the time right under the sheets. That was it for me. I hope that you have better luck with your girl.

Stay safe.

Orlo69.

The only one which I have seen is the third one, the one you call DIOR, and that was about 2 years ago, she's an older lady, definitely doesn't look like the pics, and charges too high. She gets the job done, but not worth the coins, in my opinion.

[QUOTE=MikeDoes;5386539]Hey guys I'm just wondering if anyone has seen these women recently or at all. A few I've text and got hit with a high rate or there ad calls for it. Just trying to see if these girls are actually getting these rates or if there's room to go lower; Also idk how many of these women are getting the increased unemployment but since that ends this month I wonder if rates will go down.

Breezy.

I text her and she seems cool actually, only problem was her qv rate (which I was going to do just to try her out) but she also wanted a picture verification. I was going to send a pic of a guy that kind of looks like me but she wanted one of me holding the donation so I passed for now.

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Natalia.

I've asked about her in the past, but since then I haven't seen any post or reviews about her so I'm wondering is she even real. She has been posting for awhile with the same pics / rate / ad description so idk.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/orlando/63094369[/URL]

Dior.

I think she used to go by Tatianna and awhile ago I tried to see her but she wanted $120 outcall only at the time so I passed. Pictures have a lot of filters so not sure how she might really look.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/orlando/63101045[/URL][/QUOTE]

I literally fckd the living daylights out of her yesterday (Sunday).

Had her screaming & moaning in Spanish.

Paid for a QV, went at it for HHr.

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[QUOTE=MikeDoes;5386539]Hey guys I'm just wondering if anyone has seen these women recently or at all. A few I've text and got hit with a high rate or there ad calls for it. Just trying to see if these girls are actually getting these rates or if there's room to go lower; Also idk how many of these women are getting the increased unemployment but since that ends this month I wonder if rates will go down.

Breezy.

I text her and she seems cool actually, only problem was her qv rate (which I was going to do just to try her out) but she also wanted a picture verification. I was going to send a pic of a guy that kind of looks like me but she wanted one of me holding the donation so I passed for now.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/orlando/63105243[/URL]

Natalia.

I've asked about her in the past, but since then I haven't seen any post or reviews about her so I'm wondering is she even real. She has been posting for awhile with the same pics / rate / ad description so idk.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/orlando/63094369[/URL][/QUOTE]

Wants an advance upfront to prove you arent an Uncle.

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[QUOTE=MikeDoes;5386539]Hey guys I'm just wondering if anyone has seen these women recently or at all. A few I've text and got hit with a high rate or there ad calls for it. Just trying to see if these girls are actually getting these rates or if there's room to go lower; Also idk how many of these women are getting the increased unemployment but since that ends this month I wonder if rates will go down.

Breezy.

I text her and she seems cool actually, only problem was her qv rate (which I was going to do just to try her out) but she also wanted a picture verification. I was going to send a pic of a guy that kind of looks like me but she wanted one of me holding the donation so I passed for now.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/orlando/63105243[/URL]

Natalia.

I've asked about her in the past, but since then I haven't seen any post or reviews about her so I'm wondering is she even real. She has been posting for awhile with the same pics / rate / ad description so idk.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/orlando/63094369[/URL]

Dior.

I think she used to go by Tatianna and awhile ago I tried to see her but she wanted $120 outcall only at the time so I passed. Pictures have a lot of filters so not sure how she might really look.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/orlando/63101045[/URL]

Anna & Sarah.

Okay now these 2 are a mystery to me. I've seen a few positive reviews for Anna and was going to text her for a visit, but just before the holiday weekend I see that both of these girl are now doing $100 BBBJ only. I thought maybe just for the week they might be on their cycle, but I looked at past post and that doesn't seem to be the case, seems like they've gotten used to getting paid more and are expecting it now. I tried texting Sarah to ask about BBBJ only or FS too and I just got a response of "yeah $100".

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https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/orlando/63057822[/QUOTE]Haven't seen any of these gals. First one I would never send a pic of myself. Ever clicked on more images on these girls ads and theres random guy selfies? Yeah I'm sure that's how they get there LOL.

As for Natalia, she's been reviewed on here, I think mostly positive? I'd like to give her a try but I don't spend over 80 on a qv so yeah, she looks nice though.

[QUOTE=Orlo69;5386599]Rich I've been in your shoes. I had a sexy little Latina from Puerto Rico, man I loved to fuck that girl. She had a nice compact little body super nice round Latina as and she was a talker and screamer. But like you I also started seeing marks and bruise's on her. I confronted her and she denied it. Finally she admitted but didn't want to go to treatment. I finally had to let her go one day I sat up in the bed right after we finished fucking and almost got a needle stuck in me that was laying there all the time right under the sheets. That was it for me. I hope that you have better luck with your girl.

Stay safe.

Orlo69.[/QUOTE]Especially in a tight compact body. But don't care for their attitudes as I have had a few latina SO's. But almost getting a needle stuck in you, not good at all. DT also is petite, the way I like it. Hopefully will have better luck.

Appreciate the help!

Rich.

I want to see her but she hasn't been answering her phone for months now. Did she move to another city or is she out of the game?

Wondering if anyone could lead me in the right direction. I created this profile because I was trying to reset my password for my old one. Problem is I don't remember what my email was at the time I created my old profile. It was like seven years ago. Thanks for any help.

[QUOTE=AlexKx93;5388027]I want to see her but she hasn't been answering her phone for months now. Did she move to another city or is she out of the game?[/QUOTE]I have been trying to find her for probably 6 months now. Not one response from her yet. Been almost 2 years since I saw her last, but she was getting tired of the game then. My guess is she quit. Somebody posted about 8 or 9 months ago about her wanting to go utr, but when I tried to contact her I got nothing. The number I have ends in 3113. If you find her let me know. She was an atf of mine.

[QUOTE=AlexKx93;5388027]I want to see her but she hasn't been answering her phone for months now. Did she move to another city or is she out of the game?[/QUOTE]I just saw her last week, she has been laying low and not really doing the hobby covid-19 and family stuff has made her inactive. But I get with her every couple of weeks for my visit to the Greek islands. I had not been with her in about 3 weeks and she told me that she had not been seeing anyone and. It showed, she was horny as fuck LOL she starts with a BBBJ moaning and sucking on my cock being very verbal. I reach down to play with her pussy and she was dripping wet! Man I fucked her hard and the harder I fucked her she kept yelling out harder harder! She must of had 4 or 5 big orgasm I popped in the bag deep inside of her at the same time she had her last O. As I pulled out she was shaking and trembling in the bed. I asked her if she was okay and she said yes she was having aftershocks or little tiny Orgasm LOL. This visit with her tops my list of all my visit with her LOL she is usually very vocal and like to fuck but this last round was the best! Try again Give her a call she might be starting back up.

Stay safe.

Orlo69.

[QUOTE=Orlo69;5388178]I just saw her last week, she has been laying low and not really doing the hobby covid-19 and family stuff has made her inactive. But I get with her every couple of weeks for my visit to the Greek islands. I had not been with her in about 3 weeks and she told me that she had not been seeing anyone and. It showed, she was horny as fuck LOL she starts with a BBBJ moaning and sucking on my cock being very verbal. I reach down to play with her pussy and she was dripping wet! Man I fucked her hard and the harder I fucked her she kept yelling out harder harder! She must of had 4 or 5 big orgasm I popped in the bag deep inside of her at the same time she had her last O. As I pulled out she was shaking and trembling in the bed. I asked her if she was okay and she said yes she was having aftershocks or little tiny Orgasm LOL. This visit with her tops my list of all my visit with her LOL she is usually very vocal and like to fuck but this last round was the best! Try again Give her a call she might be starting back up.

Stay safe.

Orlo69.[/QUOTE]For right now she is basically out of the game, but she is still living in Orlando actually about 2 miles from where I live. I'll let her know that you are asking about her.

Stay safe.

Orlo69.

I've gotten tired of the constant hair trimming around the cock and balls and I've considered doing something more permanent, something that doesn't require constant maintenance. Has anyone tried laser hair removal around their junk? Just wondering if any local places do that, how it's handled, the costs and how well it worked.

Never thought I'd see an ad for a body rub / haircut on LC but here it is LOL. I don't know if she really is changing her services or someone is just using her pictures but this one made me laugh.

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Who does late nightout calls around 12 am to 3 am?

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Has anyone seen her? She's definitely real from what I see.

[QUOTE=MikeDoes;5392063]Never thought I'd see an ad for a body rub / haircut on LC but here it is LOL. I don't know if she really is changing her services or someone is just using her pictures but this one made me laugh.

[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/orlando/63233654[/URL][/QUOTE]Amber told last week she was "getting out" of the game. She's done this before, she switched her advertising to massage only a couple months back. It lasted a few days. She swears she can cut hair though. LOL.

Grain 56.

Got to love the attitude in the ad. She will be back to sucking dick bevfore you know it! Nobody is going to see her with that bs!

[QUOTE=Grain56;5392549]Amber told last week she was "getting out" of the game. She's done this before, she switched her advertising to massage only a couple months back. It lasted a few days. She swears she can cut hair though. LOL.

Grain 56.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like a recipe for disaster.

[QUOTE=Bjceb;5392809]Got to love the attitude in the ad. She will be back to sucking dick bevfore you know it! Nobody is going to see her with that bs![/QUOTE]

Ok. So when did these ladies lose their minds asking these ridiculous rates? I understand the economics, but the numbers have gotten ridiculous. I love to play but I feel it's gotten out of hand.

Gents, looking for help with getting through the conversation for services with providers who do not openly advertise their extras. I am mostly interested and visit non AMP massage providers. I get that with most providers who advertise on STG, RR or other sites, to include the AMPs its pretty clear they are willing to play for pay and it is an open conversation about how long, what options and amount and I'm good with that. I have learned a ton from these pages, and haven't had issues with AMPs. My question is how to get that discussion going with someone who doesn't advertise on those sites like Deva, Jenna, or even Kate. So I guess my question is, if they don't start teasing or touching during the massage, how do I let them know I am interested in more? Should I just roll the dice and ask for what I want?

Thanks and happy mongering.

Gil.

Anyone know what happened to her? I'm assuming the gray bar hotel. She hasn't posted in quite a while.

Do lots of reading about any specific girls you want to see. This way you know for sure what they offer. Second, don't try to hide your hard dick. Let them know it's hard however you can. I've read tons of reviews of a girl does this and won't do that. Always keep a little extra cash and just ask. I've gotten plenty of BBBJ by just asking if there is anything more she can offer me. Sometimes it's no and sometimes it's yea I can do this for this much. Good luck to you. And one more thing, PM other members just to see if they have gotten more from a certain provider.

Sox.

[QUOTE=Gilagin;5394997]Gents, looking for help with getting through the conversation for services with providers who do not openly advertise their extras. I am mostly interested and visit non AMP massage providers. I get that with most providers who advertise on STG, RR or other sites, to include the AMPs its pretty clear they are willing to play for pay and it is an open conversation about how long, what options and amount and I'm good with that. I have learned a ton from these pages, and haven't had issues with AMPs. My question is how to get that discussion going with someone who doesn't advertise on those sites like Deva, Jenna, or even Kate. So I guess my question is, if they don't start teasing or touching during the massage, how do I let them know I am interested in more? Should I just roll the dice and ask for what I want?

Thanks and happy mongering.

Gil.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Redsox2005;5395441]Do lots of reading about any specific girls you want to see. This way you know for sure what they offer. Second, don't try to hide your hard dick. Let them know it's hard however you can. I've read tons of reviews of a girl does this and won't do that. Always keep a little extra cash and just ask. I've gotten plenty of BBBJ by just asking if there is anything more she can offer me. Sometimes it's no and sometimes it's yea I can do this for this much. Good luck to you. And one more thing, PM other members just to see if they have gotten more from a certain provider.

Sox.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. I wasn't sure I'd it would be Ok to PM a member directly.

Seems expensive, rate: 12 0 QV /180 hhr /250- incalls and her comms are poor. Took a day to get back to me.

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Would have to see some really good reviews to partake.

So I'm a regular with goldy and the most recent visit makes me question if I should return ever again.

For starters, goldy always give me the impression that she was solo (no management). This time however, I saw several pairs of men shoes in her room off idrive. She told they were for a family member but I was like yeah right. We did our qv but she had a horrible body odor and told me she freshly showered before I got there. In my mind I was like this is a bad idea but the little head was talking. We get done and I take a quick shower in her room to get the odor off me. Then as I leave her room there were 2 drug addict looking guys at her door that went in right after me. I don't know what is going on with goldy these days but seeing and experiencing these things does not make want to go back. Fellas try at your own risk.

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Legend.

Never seen her, but I think you can be sure she has a SO that is there for sure.

In my experience if there are a guys shoes then there is a guy in the picture, but unless it bothers my experience I don't care. In your situation the fact that these 2 guys were hanging around is too much of a red flag to return.

Stay safe and have fun!

[QUOTE=Legend808;5395777]So I'm a regular with goldy and the most recent visit makes me question if I should return ever again.

For starters, goldy always give me the impression that she was solo (no management). This time however, I saw several pairs of men shoes in her room off idrive. She told they were for a family member but I was like yeah right. We did our qv but she had a horrible body odor and told me she freshly showered before I got there. In my mind I was like this is a bad idea but the little head was talking. We get done and I take a quick shower in her room to get the odor off me. Then as I leave her room there were 2 drug addict looking guys at her door that went in right after me. I don't know what is going on with goldy these days but seeing and experiencing these things does not make want to go back. Fellas try at your own risk.

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Legend.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Legend808;5395777]So I'm a regular with goldy and the most recent visit makes me question if I should return ever again.

For starters, goldy always give me the impression that she was solo (no management). This time however, I saw several pairs of men shoes in her room off idrive. She told they were for a family member but I was like yeah right. We did our qv but she had a horrible body odor and told me she freshly showered before I got there. In my mind I was like this is a bad idea but the little head was talking. We get done and I take a quick shower in her room to get the odor off me. Then as I leave her room there were 2 drug addict looking guys at her door that went in right after me. I don't know what is going on with goldy these days but seeing and experiencing these things does not make want to go back. Fellas try at your own risk.

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Legend.[/QUOTE]I saw her once and had a good time when she was staying at Best Western by universal. She absolutely has a husband or SO, but based on my experience he is nothing to worry about. When I went to her room there was a very small, sort of pathetic looking, very non threatening guy hanging out in the hallway. I wondered if he was with her but didn't think anything of it. Went in, had a nice session, except for that her feet were really dirty LOL) and headed out. Stopped to use the restroom in the hotel lobby and when I came out she was at the desk, I assume paying for her room, and she was with that same small, pathetic looking guy from the hallway. So yes she has a guy, but I would be shocked if he were management of any kind. I really think it's just her husband or boyfriend. Seriously, nobody would be intimidated or bothered by him in any way. I would not repeat with her for a couple reasons, but he is certainly not one of them! 😂.