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[QUOTE=TheAbc;7256980]Fair warning, this isn't my post but of another poster here who posts on TER as well. His post over there hasn't it made it here or maybe it has I and I haven't seen it yet. This is from "team_rocket_qwerty".[/QUOTE]

Yes, this is a problem with TER and especially on any site that does not allow replies. I've known it for over a decade but glad someone has found more proof.

Shilling obviously happens, and you can see it in reviews that clearly or factually don't match the girl. For example describing things a girl definitely doesn't do (ex: anal being the most clear-cut obvious example). I used to see review after review of girls offering anal but they definitely didn't do it, none of them did! The writing style of all the fake reviews was the same, so I knew it was one person writing those particular shill reviews. This was over ten years ago, it has never gone away.

New shills showed up on TER over the years and followed a new pattern. You could see they reviewed girls for multiple cities left and right. TER admin noticed too and clamped down on some of them, at least the ones that were too obvious.

By the way, TER will auto-flag your account if you share it with someone too much, I posted this PSA months ago. Legit mongers were sharing TER accounts to save money and had their accounts permanently deleted for it. You can still see their review, but for example you can't PM them. There is also auto-flagging when one person reviews a girl with multiple accounts, but I won't go into any more detail so that the offenders don't get new ideas. But they already know that much.

In recent years, you can see the shills will criss-cross every agency too. I've read maybe 5K TER reviews, and it becomes super obvious if you read the TER reviews after you've seen a girl. You can see who did or didn't see a girl. Even if I don't agree with a real reviewer's opinion, I enjoy reading their fun anecdotes and appreciate insights I get. They make valid complaints or at least believable complaints. Before seeing a girl, you can only suspect on some of the shill reviews though others are obvious.

For complicated reasons, I never read TER reviews before seeing a HYA, I haven't in 9 months. TER is not useful for a HYA hunter, though it's useful for service hunters. To be clear, if you are a HYA hunter you achieve negative intel after reading TER. You are worse than before you read anything. I've done it more than 10 years before reaching this conclusion. I have documented in great detail how USAG is useful for HYA hunters by identifying reliable HYA reviewers, unlike TER which is worse than nothing due to misinformation (ex: old girls become young on TER without any pushback).

Even honest people will guess age wrong sometimes, we've all done it. But this is what happens if you do it on USAG:

[QUOTE=Download X;7251658]In LA when someone says a MILF is 20s, you get 8 guys calling him out in 2 days:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33105-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls-in-OC&p=7203978&viewfull=1#post7203978[/URL] Honey age estimate[/QUOTE]

Everyone was very polite about it. Honey is worth seeing and good looking, just not young. Of course, if you post to TER saying Honey is young and does anal, your review gets approved. I don't say that USAG is without shilling or problems, just illustrating an example difference. On USAG the problems are different, and as I said it's at least useful for HYA hunters because there are some things like "young" and "good looking" that you can't exaggerate much without being corrected. So my solution is to focus on each sites' strengths, so that it drowns out some of the problems.

Note that paid shilling works different than regular shilling, where some owner or girl writes a fake review. I know that also happens, but it doesn't happen nearly as much as the paid shill review farm. This is for reasons not worth getting into, it's just very clear from observation. In fact, I have had multiple ATFs strongly complain and protest against an owner's fake positive review, because it described acts they refuse to do or set up expectations they can't meet. For example, one girl doesn't do rimming, another girl doesn't do anal, and so on. Girls have been assaulted by guys expecting something from a review, or roughed up by guys butthurt thinking their ATF was doing anal or rimming for other guys when they got refused. The girls don't care that it's a postive review, they'd literally rather have a negative review than such a dangerous shill review. It gets more ridiculous and dumb, but I'm not going to go into specifics beyond that since the offenders may get ideas by reading this. But certain types of shill reviews help the agency but hurt the girl.

On the other hand, there are definitely girls paying for shill reviews too. This happens more to "fix" a girl's TER. I hope we understand there are also some legit service queens who have hundreds and hundreds of real reviews and don't need this. Whereas some girls have a much higher rate of shilling especially recent reviews.

Some of this I can post proof of, but that would just help the offenders work around it next time. In general terms, girls that I knew weren't working were getting tons of reviews suddenly with wrong basic facts. When they get just a trickle of reviews when they were actually working. This include girls I actually like but know their reviews are wrong. There is karma on these things however, it does not take much work to let people know on TER or USAG if there is a gap in looks or service from prior glowing reviews. That is one solution and tool for us.

I will note that many "wrong" reviews are not even shill or fake reviews. They are just people with different standards than you or I, maybe have poor/inconsistent review skills, or are exaggerating. Sometimes their standards are too low or too high, but that's different and not agains the rules. I'm sure all of us when we started out were ecstatic at one point and would or did write an overly positive review right after seeing a girl, but weeks or several girls later that wears off and we later realize it. Those are still honest reviews, just not accurate. Same thing with the thin vs thick debate, there are guys that will call a normal looking girl fat and another guy that will say an obviously skinny girl is not skinny. They have distorted tastes without realizing it, and to a degree again that's okay. It is just opinion, and I hope we get that those things are worth respectfully disagreeing on without personal attacks. I'm always fine with people saying a girl didn't look good to them or even post things I think are wrong but clearly opinion, but I draw the line when they say I need my eyes checked. My eyes are perfectly fine. Of course when I know a guy well, what they say immediately makes more sense. The best example is jgirl reviews - when there is a series of very positive jgirl reviews (sometimes including myself) I warn everyone that if they don't already like jgirls that our opinions are very biased. My jgirl reviews are for other jgirl lovers, kgirl lovers should be cautious. I'm never exaggerating how much I like the jgirls, but at the same time you should treat my review as-if it were exaggeration if you don't like jgirls. I hope that makes sense.

I've known about the shilling problem for over ten years, so my solution is to use a site where anyone can reply. I posted some photo guides on Isabella just today. Probably a hundred plus people have seen her by now over multiple tours. If anyone thinks the guide is not reasonable, call me out. If you can post a better photo guide, guaranteed I will thank you.

In the same way, I pointed out that I made a meta review of Krissy that was very cautious, and the next 5 reviews were better than my meta review. Some from guys I knew for years, so I knew it wasn't just shilling. I then updated my meta review with them when Krissy when to OC, and more reviews confirmed what the dozens of other reviews already said. Even still I caution and try to lower expectations, that Krissy is not top tier but at 340 bb all-in she is good value, overall good with no major weakness. Just like Jenny, not top tier but an hour of fun that's easy to repeat over and over at 320 bb all-in. By the way, Krissy's pussy was as tight as Lizza every time and after a 15 minute break like magic it is back to tight again. But I did not mention this in my reviews because maybe it won't happen for every guy, that is how cautious I make meta reviews. I have no way of knowing if all other guys experience this since I'm not at the bedside with a clipboard.

These are example tools we have agianst shilling. I do see some inaccurate reviews on USAG, but most of them are simply guys with a different opinion than me, or a bad memory. One problem is if you review a girl many days after seeing her, you make mistakes describing her. I noticed that if I did not journal a girl the same day as seeing her, I could no longer tell whether something as simple as her ad photo was accurate or not. Most people can't. I have had people argue with me over ad photo accuracy (saying a 100% fake ad photo was 100% the girl) when I had proof (I have her real photos from her old ad and in any case it's obvious to me), and I knew these people were legit and definitely saw the girl. My point is simply being wrong or inaccurate is not the same as shilling, and we are all capable of being wrong on a girl. That's different.

The other problem is some girls have drastically changed their appearance or service, sometimes even in a span of a month or two. Multiple girls have gained 15 pounds and gone from super skinny to slightly chubby. I am not about drama and will update their descriptions without fanfare, as long as I know the facts. But the problem goes both ways - a guy who saw her months ago will think I'm wrong, or a guy relying on an old description I wrote will see errors. Hair color change, haircuts, MMs are the most obvious changes, I have specifically mentioned these. One girl went from pure white skin to a dark spray on tan, it's not something I can predict. Jenny changed her make up and hair style, she used to look just like her ad photo with light face filter so it was 90% close, now it is just 80% close so I dropped that descriptor. She still looks good just a different style, though still in that exact outfit last I saw her. Other girls drastically change make up and look completely unrecognizable, I had to check her tattoos to confirm it was really her. Everybody understands this concept but they won't realize it when it happens. They won't know that's the explanation. It hits hard and makes you wonder.

For every problem, there is a solution.

[QUOTE=JuJu256;7256871]Is Ina actually gone for good? I only saw her once and would like to see her again.[/QUOTE]Go see Collette in MW. I guarantee you won't be disappointed.

[QUOTE=GreenWorks;7256835]I'm in LA for the next few days and am looking for an older legend. My go to in Vegas is Pepsi. She is possibly the most consistent and most mileage with GFE, pornstar or Greek (depending on the mood) [URL]vegaspepsi.com[/URL] is hee link. For those of you that have seen her, are there any K girls that offer similar service and possibly does P.S. Duo's?

Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]Sugar in DTLA is an older provider, mid 40's probably, who gives top-notch service and still looks very pretty. She does doubles with Cici, who is less attractive, but a dynamo in the sack; total sex freak. She will do anything you ask.

[URL]https://www.bookeraria.com/[/URL]

Gigi, which you can book through the same site, or others, has also been around for a long time and, while she's a bit on the crazy side, she's also pretty amazing in bed. If you prefer MILFs, you can't go wrong with Sugar or Gigi, IMO. Both are excellent service queens.

[QUOTE=NintyNine;7254869]Who has better skills in bed? Vivian or Maya?[/QUOTE]Maya wins on skills. Vivian wins on looks. But both are excellent. I like Vivian better, only because I'm very much into littler spinners and she is the ultimate spinner. One of the tiniest k-girls in LA.

[QUOTE=Jujuju1010;7252358]Has anyone gotten any response from SSG the past week? I know they had some issue with their phone which I thought was resolved. I just noticed they haven't been responsive the past week or two. Just wondering if that's happening for everyone or just me.[/QUOTE]Yes, SSG is responding again, but it's sporadic. Sometimes you have to wait a long time. Patience is required. If you want to book Nali, that's the price you have to pay (in addition to the donation. LOL!) It's a bummer, but that's the only real answer to your question.

[QUOTE=Taliesin92;7257112]Yes, SSG is responding again, but it's sporadic. Sometimes you have to wait a long time. Patience is required. If you want to book Nali, that's the price you have to pay (in addition to the donation. LOL!) It's a bummer, but that's the only real answer to your question.[/QUOTE]Has anyone ever given feedback that Nali is kind of a ***** once you get to know her?

Interested in switching up with WG.

Kbliss Sunday funday activity partners.

Maya Lily Linda Dana MDR IU Alyssa mw Nabi Lucy k town Essie Erica oc.

[QUOTE=Gooner3;7257241]Has anyone ever given feedback that Nali is kind of a ***** once you get to know her?[/QUOTE]No, I heard from a friend she's pretty nice. But who knows if she drops her guard when she's around dudes she's comfortable with. I wouldn't be surprised though if someone these girls are everyday people with flaws when you're not paying them.

[QUOTE=Gooner3;7257241]Has anyone ever given feedback that Nali is kind of a ***** once you get to know her?[/QUOTE]We can't see whatever word you used because the USG system redacted it. But if you are using the B word, I have never heard that feedback about Nali. She seems like a genuine sweetheart. But as someone else said, most of us only know her in the fantasy world where she is being paid to treat us like kings. And she does that exceedingly well.

From a customer perspective, having visited her countless times, I've never seen a dark side to her personality. I have seen that with a few other k-girls over the years (and they shall remain nameless), but never Nali. She is always in a good mood, always looks sexy as hell, and always willing to please. That's why she's No. 1 on my k-girl favorites list!

[QUOTE=Taliesin92;7257646]But as someone else said, most of us only know her in the fantasy world where she is being paid to treat us like kings. And she does that exceedingly well.

From a customer perspective, having visited her countless times, I've never seen a dark side to her personality. I have seen that with a few other k-girls over the years (and they shall remain nameless), but never Nali. She is always in a good mood, always looks sexy as hell, and always willing to please. That's why she's No. 1 on my k-girl favorites list![/QUOTE]Even my short time with Korean women from agencies specifically, the few that do open up have some serious trauma. Of course, not every sob story affects them so painfully so to cripple their ability to function and some are just straight fabrications made out of thin air. However, out of maybe 4 that have opened up, all 4 seem believable. Single moms with dead beat baby daddies, prior abuse, one has admitted they have a drug addiction. I'm sure the list goes on with all kinds of shit.

This is not to excuse any egregious behavior or statements but it's context fwiw.

[QUOTE=PumpNDump;7257437]Kbliss Sunday funday activity partners.

Maya Lily Linda Dana MDR IU Alyssa mw Nabi Lucy k town Essie Erica oc.[/QUOTE]Fellow mongers, is this the same Dana as the one being listed on AllstarAsia in oc? Same pics, how can she be at two place at once?

[URL]https://www.humaniplex.com/photos/AllstarAsia/98525/[/URL]

[QUOTE=JungleFun;7257694]Fellow mongers, is this the same Dana as the one being listed on AllstarAsia in oc? Same pics, how can she be at two place at once?

[URL]https://www.humaniplex.com/photos/AllstarAsia/98525/[/URL][/QUOTE]Because those pics were posted in 2023.

[QUOTE=DefCooked;7257671]Even my short time with Korean women from agencies specifically, the few that do open up have some serious trauma. Of course, not every sob story affects them so painfully so to cripple their ability to function and some are just straight fabrications made out of thin air. However, out of maybe 4 that have opened up, all 4 seem believable. Single moms with dead beat baby daddies, prior abuse, one has admitted they have a drug addiction. I'm sure the list goes on with all kinds of shit.

This is not to excuse any egregious behavior or statements but it's context fwiw.[/QUOTE]Oh certainly. That is par for the course. It's why, these days, I prefer not to delve too much into their personal lives. I did that a lot when I was younger, and it almost always leads you down a dark path eventually. Whether it's sexual abuse, physical abuse, and / or bad parents who messed them up. There's always something. If you've ever dated a girl with Borderline Personality Disorder, it's amazing how much they have in common with working girls. It's almost like BPD leads her directly to that line of work.

I was just joking (half joking) with some friends that bad fathers wind up producing the best hookers. It's sad but true!

I've always suspected TER had alot of shill reviews over the years, but this is the first definite proof that its happening. TER is just a resource, but not a reliable one. Most of the time I have to not only screen the reviews, I also have the screen the history of the poster. Yeah, you can notice a pattern with these reviews over time. On top of that, I've seen reviews pop up on a girl who clearly hasn't worked in awhile but get recent reviews from reviewers. Thats probably a guy who wanted free VIP and just spent a few minutes drafting some BS up. Who knows how much I've gotten burned by fake reviews over the years. I know I've come across certain girls' TER profile where they would get a bunch of high scores then after some time has passed, some monger would have a counter review stating on how in the world would X girl be rated a 9 when his experience was totally different. You could argue YMMV based on the reviewer's experience could vary from person to person.

With the uncertainty of the economy, up charges, fake pictures, fake reviews and questionable new talent arriving, I find it difficult to go as much these days. They're doing everything to milk us dry.