Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Ptdatl;1841559](snipped) I moved here in '94 and have been frequenting AMPs ever since. I agree with you that the quality has dropped considerably. When I first started hitting AMPs the women were friendly and I almost always got great service. Now there are a lot of overpriced places for the service they offer. Believe it or not, I was told about this forum by an AMP provider that I see as a regular. (snipped)[/QUOTE]If the AMP provder that told you about this place offers anything close to Kay, care to share? We can take it to PM if you prefer. Just please don't post and tell me you sent it. I think I can figure it out when I have a PM. No disrespect, but since you are new here, to send PM, just right click on the handle and choose the prompt from the pop-up box.

[QUOTE=MikeyGaGa1;1842123]I think as we become more experienced mongers we lose sight of the patience we may have once had. I see it myself. When I started years ago a little hint was enough and it was ok to let that hint develop into more over 5 or 10 sessions. The point is that I think we may not want to put in the time because we know that some no matter how long we go it won't get any better. But the truth is that there are some that will. I had a gal who I worked for almost 2 years at a place that everyone said was legit as shit. What started as not going near me evolved into almost everything but FS. But you have to put in the time. Whether it be BH or JC. It's no different. It just depends on how much game you have, money to spend and time to invest. IMHO[/QUOTE]You left out patience in addition to game, money and time to invest. I actually agree with your comment about the little hint tht keeps one coming back. But, that was when I first started visiting AMPs. To your point, I view that little hint and tease now with much more cynical eyes. No secret many escorts and AMP girls get jaded and burnt out. Only logical that over time a guy might be overly focused on the scoring plays as opposed to the overall game itself. Interesting post you made that I intially was going to say was too costly and required a higher tolerance of blue balls that I could ever manage. Going to have to give that some inner reflection.

Spring Dream and soo relaxing. Still legit.

Orential Massage in Lville. Too legit.

One off Sugarloaf and Lawrenville hwy. Legit but sensual.

Health office massage off Lavista. Three times, hot set up but nothing. They think they are doctors LOL.

Just a heads up. Ill note any for familiar posters.

T massage. Both. I know the owner or the girl who claims to be. She is a friend kind of. It is a strictly legit place in her mind. They pull people in with the half in half out kinda way to always make you think more cam be had. She will also text you asking you to come. But if you try to get clarification they will not go any further than massage.

Same goes with healthy massage in Smyrna.

[QUOTE=Ptdatl;1841989]I am certain after meeting you, you have heard many women say," what an ass!"[/QUOTE]Jackweed, wake up. You have 5 measly posts and nothing of value. Go find another sandbox to play in since you can't handle this one.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1842747]Jackweed, wake up. You have 5 measly posts and nothing of value. Go find another sandbox to play in since you can't handle this one.[/QUOTE]LOL. Get them! I just saw how many posts you had, nite. You are my hero. LOL hit me up if you know of any good places or experiences that first time you got lucky with out too much negotiation. I haven't been lucky latly and need a boost.

[QUOTE=MikeyGaGa1;1842123]I think as we become more experienced mongers we lose sight of the patience we may have once had. I see it myself. When I started years ago a little hint was enough and it was ok to let that hint develop into more over 5 or 10 sessions. The point is that I think we may not want to put in the time because we know that some no matter how long we go it won't get any better. But the truth is that there are some that will. I had a gal who I worked for almost 2 years at a place that everyone said was legit as shit. What started as not going near me evolved into almost everything but FS. But you have to put in the time. Whether it be BH or JC. It's no different. It just depends on how much game you have, money to spend and time to invest. IMHO[/QUOTE]Good point. Patience is a great virtue and I personally have less as time goes on. In lieu of that, I'm learning to play the game smarter per massage girls, at least. A few thoughts:

1. LE has stepped up its presence / persistence and has either shut down or kept close tabs on Doraville and JC parlors for which, only a few short years ago, we openly discussed extras. Several parlors (Midori, Golden Touch, etc) have either been shuttered or now operate cautiously and many, many providers have been arrested. As a result, fewer massage girls provide extras for fear of the obvious.

2. Too many lurkers on this forum. I assume that perhaps a scant, single-digit percentage of mongers provide all of the quality intel. The rest is guys hiding in the background, happy to benefit from said intel but too lazy to provide any useful intel.

3. That said, good intel has gone underground to a great degree. Who can blame a monger who has busted his ass to build a relationship with a massage girl from openly discussing her services?

In regard to patience and playing the game smarter, I choose my target massage girls more carefully now and put in quality time with them. Doubt my parlor game is as good as many here but it has paid off nicely. In addition, I think it's a good idea to diversify one's mongering activities. A combination of cheap BP no-tel girls, Korean or Chinese parlor girls, low / mid-priced escort girls and non-working girls keep my balls drained.

Play smarter, live happier. YMMV.

[QUOTE=Ptdatl;1841567]As you saw from niteluvr's response to you, people on here do know of the Apple Spa that I mentioned. Also, Rainbow Spa was anything but legit. It has changed names several times since it was Rainbow and I have no idea what it is like now. But it was not legit when it was it rainbow. The only reason I posted in the first place, was because the two women I mentioned were two of the best for me. I was hoping they still worked in Atlanta, that's all. I think my original post was clear. I never heard of this forum until a few days ago and I have always been able to find my own providers, including the ones I frequent now. When I saw this forum I figured it was the place to ask the question about two gals I wish I had kept in contact with. But I was wrong.[/QUOTE]You were not wrong! This is the place to get info ad ask questions. You did ask in the right way, gave reason for asking and some info. Not the " hey I want FS, where can I get it?" LOL We are all not alike, some good guys, some will give info, some will not, some will give you shit, some will not. Some act there age, some don't, there are many types here. Keep posting and you will find all types of people here. You just ruffled a few feathers and they jumped on you. Most all on here are good guys, some are not. Nightlover and AMP4me are the ones who know most of the info on AMPs and I am sure they both will help you. Me? I don't know jack shit, Jon shit or Ralph Shit either. I just dream a lot.

Wet Dreams, PW

PS, I don't know JackWeed either. LOL LOL

[QUOTE=BigKinga;1842721]One off Sugarloaf and Lawrenville hwy. Legit but sensual.[/QUOTE]Care to elaborate on "legit but sensual?" If not publicly, PM me.

[QUOTE=BigKinga; 1842721]Spring Dream and soo relaxing. Still legit.

Orential Massage in Lville. Too legit.

One off Sugarloaf and Lawrenville hwy. Legit but sensual.

Health office massage off Lavista. Three times, hot set up but nothing. They think they are doctors LOL.

Just a heads up. Ill note any for familiar posters.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't waste any more visits on any of these places you mentioned unless you happen to like the massages. With the exception of Spring Dream (never been there and never heard of extras being had) , I've been to the other places as well as both T Massages on Buford Hwy that you talked about in your other post. No luck at any of them, so I focus on other parlors.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1842747]Jackweed, wake up. You have 5 measly posts and nothing of value. Go find another sandbox to play in since you can't handle this one.[/QUOTE]You can call me Johnweed. Lets see. 5 posts with nothing of value vs. 4,650 posts with nothing of value? Hmmmmmmm? I've got some catching up to do! I think I will play in this sandbox for a while. I like it here.

[QUOTE=TimBuckTwo; 1841147][url]http://atlanta.backpage.com/BodyRubs/o-o-super-busty-beauty-for-unrushed-total-body-relaxation-o-o-100/16858274[/url]

Basic two call system, she answered the door, and she had humongous juggs! I think J, she was very pleasant. She stated with a nice body massage firm hands, on the flip basic he. Didn't press the issue but was wondering if anything else was on the menu. Yes I'm a "newbie" (been lurkin for a while) but what is your experience with Kandy, any extras?[/QUOTE]Always curious about providers with huge tits like that, although I would have to psyche myself up to focus solely on those monsters. She states her cup size as being LLL. Always wondered how such huge tits are measured. BTW, did you really pay $150, her price in the ad? If so, you should have been able to get whatever you wanted.

Nah it was a bill for hh, she seemed like something could have been on the menu and even though very pleasant she was reserved in her own way, I guess the best way next time is just to go for it!

I'm quite sure Russian is on the menu but was looking for bbj.

[QUOTE=DiamondDan; 1831319]How's the talent here? I live out of town or I would find out for myself then report here.

[url]http://atlanta.backpage.com/BodyRubs/latina-spa24hrsopen-25/19076168[/url][/QUOTE]Was thinking same thing when I saw latina!

She provide also NURU "glide", I guess is just one way slide, after that you'll be almost like a "sheet", very "relaxed". LOL

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1843167]I wouldn't waste any more visits on any of these places you mentioned unless you happen to like the massages. With the exception of Spring Dream (never been there and never heard of extras being had) , I've been to the other places as well as both T Massages on Buford Hwy that you talked about in your other post. No luck at any of them, so I focus on other parlors.[/QUOTE]R you talkin about Spring Dream in Dunwoody? Off of N Shallowford Road? Been there couple of times with Amy. Total Damage 1. 1. Took nice shower before I laid down on table. After 5 min. Into the massage negotiated total tip for her. Got BJ (unskillful) suck in Cs and HJ finish (skillful). She was initially hesitant, but once you start pulling bills, most of these ladies melt. Aren't we all human and lured by bills. Try her. There used to be another gal. Have her, and see her once in while for FS at her apt. On BH

Dropped by Massage Angel in Sandy Springs. *Normally I get great service from Daisy. *They were busy, so I drew a new girl named Niki. *Young, cute, pleasant personality. *I figure it's a bonus session. Started with some chit chat to put her at ease. *Told her I'd been there a bunch and have seen both Daisy & Mary. *She said she was just in from California a week ago, but she may in fact be the new girl reported on here about 2 or 3 weeks ago. She's 20s, petite frame with long light brown hair and round face. *Anyway, her massage sucked. *She asked if I wanted soft, medium or hard, and I said hard, but she just did light touch anyway all over my back, legs, ass, nut sack, ass crack and every now and then my shaft. Felt great. For the first 10 min, but after half an hour that shit gets old. Never did hard pressure even when I asked her to. *And used a ton of oil, even though I said not to. *Was hoping things would improve on the flip, but no go. *More light touch / teasing with no real massage, and only wanted to DIY. *I finally got her to assist HE, and she gives the Kung Fu grip when I came (the only time in the whole goddamned hour she used any force) so I yanked her hand off my dick and said "not tight when I come". *She got a hot towel and wiped me down. Which wasn't much more than smearing the oil around some more, I got dressed, paid the house, tipped 20 (which she wasn't happy with, but was probably too much) and left. YMMV.

I have no idea why those fucking asterisks show up in my posts.

Place is as legit as a nunnery, no touching, no teasing, nada. Then gave $80 for the $60 hr massage, and chick says "thank you" like she's not going to make change. Got my change gave $5 tip because the massage was good, and left, will not return unless reports can be verified.

[QUOTE=TimBuckTwo; 1843305]Nah it was a bill for hh, she seemed like something could have been on the menu and even though very pleasant she was reserved in her own way, I guess the best way next time is just to go for it!

I'm quite sure Russian is on the menu but was looking for bbj.[/QUOTE]To each their own and more stamina to them, but imo, I would be worried about losing little johnny if it were ever to be put between those mammaries. And I don't care how well one is endowed.

[QUOTE=Amache;1843440]She provide also NURU "glide", I guess is just one way slide, after that you'll be almost like a "sheet", very "relaxed". LOL[/QUOTE]A little help please. To which girl are you referencing? Please don't tell me it was the one in the link provided by TimBuckTow. If it was, than I totally get your comment about feeling like a sheet. But as for relaxed, well, I guess that is a matter of perspective.

[QUOTE=Cocknballs;1843531]Dropped by Massage Angel in Sandy Springs. *Normally I get great service from Daisy. *They were busy, so I drew a new girl named Niki. *Young, cute, pleasant personality. *I figure it's a bonus session. Started with some chit chat to put her at ease. *Told her I'd been there a bunch and have seen both Daisy & Mary. *She said she was just in from California a week ago, but she may in fact be the new girl reported on here about 2 or 3 weeks ago. She's 20s, petite frame with long light brown hair and round face. *Anyway, her massage sucked. *She asked if I wanted soft, medium or hard, and I said hard, but she just did light touch anyway all over my back, legs, ass, nut sack, ass crack and every now and then my shaft. Felt great. For the first 10 min, but after half an hour that shit gets old. Never did hard pressure even when I asked her to. *And used a ton of oil, even though I said not to. *Was hoping things would improve on the flip, but no go. *More light touch / teasing with no real massage, and only wanted to DIY. *I finally got her to assist HE, and she gives the Kung Fu grip when I came (the only time in the whole goddamned hour she used any force) so I yanked her hand off my dick and said "not tight when I come". *She got a hot towel and wiped me down. Which wasn't much more than smearing the oil around some more, I got dressed, paid the house, tipped 20 (which she wasn't happy with, but was probably too much) and left. YMMV.[/QUOTE]Had to laugh at your expense. Can't tell you how many times I've been in that same scenario, but mostly with Korean woman doing that "Kung Fu grip." I have no idea why, but many Asian women seem to think that applying a tourniquet when a guy is about to nut won't hurt. I guess next time I sense that happening I'll have to grab a nipple and pinch it really hard, then play stupid when she lets out a yelp.

[QUOTE=Random420;1843358]Was thinking same thing when I saw latina![/QUOTE]That Latina ad is mostly a marketing ploy as Spring Spa doesn't get much business due to location and quality of providers. Guess they think advertising a Latina is better than lying and stating they have hot Asian girls. They may indeed have a Latina working (they have in the past) but you can't expect J-Lo.

Sorry about your experience with Niki. I'll still have to give her a try on Thursday. She's too cute not to try out at least once.

Daisy and Mary always give really good massages. Niki is pretty small and I wouldn't expect much of a massage from her anyway. I would have hoped for a better HE though.

Daisy told me that Niki has worked in California doing massages so I would have thought that she would have a little more experience than what you described. Pass your experience with Niki on to Daisy or Mary and I'm sure they will train her pretty quickly.

Maybe I'll schedule a 4 hand with Daisy and Niki on Thursday so that Niki will get good on the job training.

[QUOTE=Cocknballs;1843531]Dropped by Massage Angel in Sandy Springs. *Normally I get great service from Daisy. *They were busy, so I drew a new girl named Niki. *Young, cute, pleasant personality. *I figure it's a bonus session. Started with some chit chat to put her at ease. *Told her I'd been there a bunch and have seen both Daisy & Mary. *She said she was just in from California a week ago, but she may in fact be the new girl reported on here about 2 or 3 weeks ago. She's 20s, petite frame with long light brown hair and round face. *Anyway, her massage sucked. *She asked if I wanted soft, medium or hard, and I said hard, but she just did light touch anyway all over my back, legs, ass, nut sack, ass crack and every now and then my shaft. Felt great. For the first 10 min, but after half an hour that shit gets old. Never did hard pressure even when I asked her to. *And used a ton of oil, even though I said not to. *Was hoping things would improve on the flip, but no go. *More light touch / teasing with no real massage, and only wanted to DIY. *I finally got her to assist HE, and she gives the Kung Fu grip when I came (the only time in the whole goddamned hour she used any force) so I yanked her hand off my dick and said "not tight when I come". *She got a hot towel and wiped me down. Which wasn't much more than smearing the oil around some more, I got dressed, paid the house, tipped 20 (which she wasn't happy with, but was probably too much) and left. YMMV.[/QUOTE]

I thought I saw somewhere that folks had luck at Heath office off Lavista. Same experience as you at Sugarloaf and 29.

[QUOTE=BigKinga; 1842721]Spring Dream and soo relaxing. Still legit.

Orential Massage in Lville. Too legit.

One off Sugarloaf and Lawrenville hwy. Legit but sensual.

Health office massage off Lavista. Three times, hot set up but nothing. They think they are doctors LOL.

Just a heads up. Ill note any for familiar posters.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Amp Fme;1843569]To each their own and more stamina to them, but imo, I would be worried about losing little johnny if it were ever to be put between those mammaries. And I don't care how well one is endowed.[/QUOTE]Ummm you guys are a little different from me, I want to be lost in the mammeries, you don't? I guess its just me LOL

I dropped by Nova Massage in East Cobb on the way home from work on Friday. When I walked in, I was immediately greeted by some mid-50's Asian man who was working the front desk. He asked if I had been there before, so I said that I had (I hadn't, but no need for him to know that). After I used the bathroom, he directed me to the first room on the left as you walk in. As I walked in, he confirmed again that I had been there and said that Mary would give me a massage.

I disrobed, and Mary came in a few minutes later. Mary is likely early 40's with an average body. If I had to guess, she had B cups and a rather flat ass. She was dressed in a short sleeve shirt and pants, which gave no hint of sexuality at all. Overall, quite average, but very nice.

Mary first asked if I wanted it soft or hard, so I told her hard. She spent the next 35 minutes giving me a vary capable massage with zero (and I mean zero) teasing. After 35 min, she put hot towels on my back and wiped off all the lotion she used. Once she was done, she asked me to flip over and proceeded to massage my head and arms. She did very light massage on my chest, but did spend a good amount of time on my legs and feet. She was very skilled at the perfect drape, and didn't come close to touching me in a non-professional manner. After she finished with my legs and feet, she brought out more hot towels and cleaned up everything before concluding the massage. She left the room and I got dressed. I paid $50 for the massage and gave a $10 tip.

This is my first report, and everything seemed legit. This place seems like a good place to visit if you want a decent massage. Maybe next time I'll try a different provider.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1790185]Always wondered what Pam is like since she's been advertising for years. Talked to her on the phone once or twice but never took the plunge. Guess maybe I should avoid her if she's pulling that no-show BS.[/QUOTE]Works out of an office space in Alpharetta. Clean space, has some dogs that are heard but not seen. Probably early 50s, older, flabby. Very talkative, ok massage with lots of oil that's hard to get off and a reluctant lackluster HE. Damage was 40. Would not repeat.

[QUOTE=Beldaws; 1843701]Sorry about your experience with Niki. I'll still have to give her a try on Thursday. She's too cute not to try out at least once.

Daisy and Mary always give really good massages. Niki is pretty small and I wouldn't expect much of a massage from her anyway. I would have hoped for a better HE though.

Daisy told me that Niki has worked in California doing massages so I would have thought that she would have a little more experience than what you described. Pass your experience with Niki on to Daisy or Mary and I'm sure they will train her pretty quickly.

Maybe I'll schedule a 4 hand with Daisy and Niki on Thursday so that Niki will get good on the job training.[/QUOTE]Perhaps if you have enough clout you can opt for a 4-hand "on the boner" training for Niki.

HaHa, I only wish I had that sort of clout! You could probably pull that off though.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1843960]Perhaps if you have enough clout you can opt for a 4-hand "on the boner" training for Niki.[/QUOTE]

Here are a couple of questions for situations I haven't seen on the forum before.

If you are seeing a girl for takeout at a hotel, is there a protocol for tipping? I have been in this relationship for several months and have never tipped. I do pick up the cost for the hotel room. Also no charge for the time. What have others done? No complaints from the girl.

If you've been seeing a (different) girl at a (different) store and it bypasses the HE completely and goes directly to a FS relationship, is there a need to up the tip. It has never been discussed, nor has it been stopped because of the amount. 90 minutes = 30 tip.

Both are Chinese.

What have others done?

For the first one, buy her a gift every now and then to keep her happy. If you've gone several months and haven't been paying for the time or tipping then she must be enjoying herself too. Maybe she needs to tip you instead!

For the second one, personally I'd tip more but if she's not complaining and keeps offering FS for that price then she must be enjoying herself too. She's probably gets 50% of the house fee along with your 30 tip so she's probably making 70 off of you every time.

Tell us your secret to getting these types of relationships! LOL.

[QUOTE=Homeo; 1844171]Here are a couple of questions for situations I haven't seen on the forum before.

If you are seeing a girl for takeout at a hotel, is there a protocol for tipping? I have been in this relationship for several months and have never tipped. I do pick up the cost for the hotel room. Also no charge for the time. What have others done? No complaints from the girl.

If you've been seeing a (different) girl at a (different) store and it bypasses the HE completely and goes directly to a FS relationship, is there a need to up the tip. It has never been discussed, nor has it been stopped because of the amount. 90 minutes = 30 tip.

Both are Chinese.

What have others done?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Homeo; 1844171]Here are a couple of questions for situations I haven't seen on the forum before.

If you are seeing a girl for takeout at a hotel, is there a protocol for tipping? I have been in this relationship for several months and have never tipped. I do pick up the cost for the hotel room. Also no charge for the time. What have others done? No complaints from the girl.

If you've been seeing a (different) girl at a (different) store and it bypasses the HE completely and goes directly to a FS relationship, is there a need to up the tip. It has never been discussed, nor has it been stopped because of the amount. 90 minutes = 30 tip.

Both are Chinese.

What have others done?[/QUOTE]As for the second scenario, I increase the tip to $60 and haven't received any complaints. I asked one woman and she simply said,"Whatever you want to give me." I think they neglect to complain because the deed is over rather quickly and they don't want to raise a ruckus in the parlor given the risk involved. I offered one woman more money and she waved it off.

[QUOTE=Beldaws; 1844209]For the first one, buy her a gift every now and then to keep her happy. If you've gone several months and haven't been paying for the time or tipping then she must be enjoying herself too. Maybe she needs to tip you instead!

For the second one, personally I'd tip more but if she's not complaining and keeps offering FS for that price then she must be enjoying herself too. She's probably gets 50% of the house fee along with your 30 tip so she's probably making 70 off of you every time.

Tell us your secret to getting these types of relationships! LOL.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't mind a few more tips from Homeo or others too but, in general terms, it takes my time, effort, smiles, lots of compliments, assurances I won't blow their cover and my best bullshit lines. In the not too recent past I never invested time in these women but, based on the success of other mongers, I decided to try it too.

[QUOTE=Homeo; 1844171]Here are a couple of questions for situations I haven't seen on the forum before.

If you are seeing a girl for takeout at a hotel, is there a protocol for tipping? I have been in this relationship for several months and have never tipped. I do pick up the cost for the hotel room. Also no charge for the time. What have others done? No complaints from the girl.

If you've been seeing a (different) girl at a (different) store and it bypasses the HE completely and goes directly to a FS relationship, is there a need to up the tip. It has never been discussed, nor has it been stopped because of the amount. 90 minutes = 30 tip.

Both are Chinese.

What have others done?[/QUOTE]I have had similar scenarios and I never increase the tip with more service. It sounds like these girls are not pay for play and that its semi relational. They like you and don't want to just give you FS for the money. Maybe they perceive something more down the road, who knows. Either way I have actually had very bad results when I started increasing on a few gals. They said it made them feel bad. WTF? I assured them that it was not intended to be bad. One gal actually shut me off. Sucked real bad. She was hot. Used to work at TYF on BH. Anyway, I like the present idea. Can't go wrong there, but be careful you don't want to create a habit of expectation. Make it for a late or early birthday or some other special occasion.

[QUOTE=Homeo; 1844171]Here are a couple of questions for situations I haven't seen on the forum before.

If you are seeing a girl for takeout at a hotel, is there a protocol for tipping? I have been in this relationship for several months and have never tipped. I do pick up the cost for the hotel room. Also no charge for the time. What have others done? No complaints from the girl.

If you've been seeing a (different) girl at a (different) store and it bypasses the HE completely and goes directly to a FS relationship, is there a need to up the tip. It has never been discussed, nor has it been stopped because of the amount. 90 minutes = 30 tip.

Both are Chinese.

What have others done?[/QUOTE]#humblebragpost

[QUOTE=Homeo; 1844171]Here are a couple of questions for situations I haven't seen on the forum before.

If you are seeing a girl for takeout at a hotel, is there a protocol for tipping? I have been in this relationship for several months and have never tipped. I do pick up the cost for the hotel room. Also no charge for the time. What have others done? No complaints from the girl.

If you've been seeing a (different) girl at a (different) store and it bypasses the HE completely and goes directly to a FS relationship, is there a need to up the tip. It has never been discussed, nor has it been stopped because of the amount. 90 minutes = 30 tip.

Both are Chinese.

What have others done?[/QUOTE]Is the first a legit parlor lady you convinced to meet you off the docket? That is a relationship, if so, at least to her. Anything more than a gift will be a huge insult, IMHO.

For the second, leave a bit more for her, but don't make a big deal out of it, and see if she says anything. If it is a matter of your conscience with her and she won't take it, get her gifts.

DT.

PS. Write a book on how you pulled this off.

[QUOTE=MikeyGaGa1;1844227]I have had similar scenarios and I never increase the tip with more service. It sounds like these girls are not pay for play and that its semi relational. They like you and don't want to just give you FS for the money. Maybe they perceive something more down the road, who knows. Either way I have actually had very bad results when I started increasing on a few gals. They said it made them feel bad. WTF? I assured them that it was not intended to be bad. One gal actually shut me off. Sucked real bad. She was hot. Used to work at TYF on BH. Anyway, I like the present idea. Can't go wrong there, but be careful you don't want to create a habit of expectation. Make it for a late or early birthday or some other special occasion.[/QUOTE]What price range of hotel (s) do you take the women to? I wouldn't want to take a woman to a skanky no-tel, nor pay $150.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1844275]What price range of hotel (s) do you take the women to? I wouldn't want to take a woman to a skanky no-tel, nor pay $150.[/QUOTE]3* and up- you can get on priceline for well under $100 usually

[QUOTE=Ptdatl;1843168]You can call me Johnweed. Lets see. 5 posts with nothing of value vs. 4,650 posts with nothing of value? Hmmmmmmm? I've got some catching up to do! I think I will play in this sandbox for a while. I like it here.[/QUOTE]REALLY? You think niteluvr's posts are nothing of value. You are barking up the wrong tree and will get no help from others here. Just realize you eeffed up and take your lumps.