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Boo Hiss! I now count myself very lucky to have experienced the legendary Lisa of 4S on one cross-country stopover. Damn unAmerican if you ask me.
[QUOTE=Gdlint; 1368134]The vote passed tonight.
[url]http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/state/warren-massage-parlor-legislation-passes-regulating-24-hour-spas[/url][/QUOTE]
Take a minute and think about this.
What does the law actually say, not rumors but what is actually in the law?
Limited hours, more training, limits to the number of AMPs allowed to get a license. I think the only thing that is really a pain is if there is actually a sign in necessary. This may not holdup in court since there is still no proof of anything illegal happening. And what is to stop up from all signing in as town council members, not like the kitchen mama can read my DL or anything.
Also, have you met the mamasans? They are pretty crafty ladies, I am sure they were aware of this and have plans in place to deal with it. With the kind of money they have available to keep their spa's open.
Also, have you met the mamasans? They are pretty crafty ladies, I am sure they were aware of this and have plans in place to deal with it. With the kind of money they have available to keep their spa's open.[/QUOTE]The last time the sky was falling I talked to one of the Mammasans about this and she said it would not be an issue. Maybe some of the spa's would not be open so late. Maybe they have to pay more for there license, but other then that I think she was hoping it would pass so she could catch more sleep.
Let's be honest. It's websites like this that are to blame for these new laws!
In the old days you went in, took who they gave you, got your massage, went home and kept your mouth shut.
[QUOTE=Frank69;1368826]Also, have you met the mamasans? They are pretty crafty ladies, I am sure they were aware of this and have plans in place to deal with it. With the kind of money they have available to keep their spa's open.[/QUOTE]The last time the sky was falling I talked to one of the Mammasans about this and she said it would not be an issue. Maybe some of the spa's would not be open so late. Maybe they have to pay more for there license, but other then that I think she was hoping it would pass so she could catch more sleep.[/QUOTE]What the hell does a mamasan do other than act as an on site manager of employees similar to one at McDonalds. The last time I heard it was Richard Thompson who is the owner of Hot Sun Spa not the mamasan. Tokyo Spa is owned by Andrea Thompson. The last time you talked to one of the mamasans and she said it would not be an issue the legislation was not passed. Go ask her this weekend how she is going to get girls that can't read or write English to pass an American exam. In case you and your buddy from Florida are not aware of the fact Warren just elected their first black mayor ever and he took office this month. This has nothing to do with the presidential election. Yeah right have a mamasan from Korea outwit the American legal system. What kind of deal do you have with Sammy and Sun Spa? They can all get their sleep now the hours are 6am till 12 midnight.
Happy Mongering.
[QUOTE=Cesar Romero; 1368788]Take a minute and think about this.
What does the law actually say, not rumors but what is actually in the law?
Limited hours, more training, limits to the number of AMPs allowed to get a license. I think the only thing that is really a pain is if there is actually a sign in necessary. This may not holdup in court since there is still no proof of anything illegal happening. And what is to stop up from all signing in as town council members, not like the kitchen mama can read my DL or anything.
Also, have you met the mamasans? They are pretty crafty ladies, I am sure they were aware of this and have plans in place to deal with it. With the kind of money they have available to keep their spa's open.[/QUOTE]My inside sources say that there will be more to this sooner than later. There are more laws that are being proposed that will make staying open a lost cause.
The proposals will become law as they are looked at for their legality according to the report. The people of Warren are tired of having their city known as the capitol of "Happy Endings". I hear that the police will be looking at sting operations so the spas will have to either clean up their act or shut down. The spas will go on the defensive and not offer what they have in the past for fear of arrest. So customers will stop going making the spas a losing proposition. They will then just shut down.
I never like to say I told you so. But in this case, I will. All the talk on the internet about these places has brought attention to the spas.
There will be more to come.
[QUOTE=Cesar Romero; 1368788]Take a minute and think about this.
What does the law actually say, not rumors but what is actually in the law?
Limited hours, more training, limits to the number of AMPs allowed to get a license. I think the only thing that is really a pain is if there is actually a sign in necessary. This may not holdup in court since there is still no proof of anything illegal happening. And what is to stop up from all signing in as town council members, not like the kitchen mama can read my DL or anything.
Also, have you met the mamasans? They are pretty crafty ladies, I am sure they were aware of this and have plans in place to deal with it. With the kind of money they have available to keep their spa's open.[/QUOTE]They have to be closed between 12 midnight and 6am. They will be inspected at least 24 times a year. The massage girls will have to obtain a license which is 640. 00 and prove they have 100 hours of education from a recognized school or has a certification from the National Certification Board of Therapeutic Massage and Bodywork. This legislation goes into effect in 30 days and the city was notifying the spas starting this morning. You know all about the increases the owners must start paying. If you think the MVOC worked 2 years to get this passed and now they are going to let some Korean mamasan get around their work you are crazy. Their goal is to close all the spas not take 2 years to get legislation passed and walk away. I wish they would but thinking they will is insane.
Happy Mongering
[QUOTE=Kyle6002; 1368871]Let's be honest. It's websites like this that are to blame for these new laws!
In the old days you went in, took who they gave you, got your massage, went home and kept your mouth shut.[/QUOTE]True that, Providence RI comes to mind. Most spas have no signage, small places behind other businesses and such. I was quite shocked the first time I visited Warren and saw a billboard on the way in advertising the spa, have only seen that before in Georgia. Between that and all the PBA stickers on the door of the old Sun Spa I figured ok, well kinda like AC of old (Atlantic city).
100 hour training = better massage. Kiss my stress away.
[QUOTE=Kyle6002; 1368871]Let's be honest. It's websites like this that are to blame for these new laws!
In the old days you went in, took who they gave you, got your massage, went home and kept your mouth shut.[/QUOTE]Well that is only partly true. While there is way to much info out there it was only a matter of time. They ran all the spas out of Cleveland, the 4 in Elyria & 2 in Sandusky out of business and you can't blame sites like this. You can blame the church people for pushing their so called morals. By the way does anyone remember the names of the spas in Sandusky area? I think one was the Hawaiian Spa and the other Hong Kong Spa?
If you are talking about Sammy at Sun yes she is crafty at making up bullshit stories. Not so much in keeping Sun Spa from being closed by the Warren Health Department. Does anyone remember August 2010 when she was shut down because of an unlicensed worker for 2 weeks? Water problems was what she kept telling everyone instead of the truth.
Happy Mongering.
[QUOTE=Book Man; 1369024]If you are talking about Sammy at Sun yes she is crafty at making up bullshit stories. Not so much in keeping Sun Spa from being closed by the Warren Health Department. Does anyone remember August 2010 when she was shut down because of an unlicensed worker for 2 weeks? Water problems was what she kept telling everyone instead of the truth.
Happy Mongering.[/QUOTE]I was in the spa when the inspectors came in. I was scared out of my mind and had to hide. Then I went over to Tokyo and they showed up there too! It was the scariest time of my life, haha. I came to find out that they really didn't care about me, because I was not what they were there for. However, this recent legislation is not what will hurt them. The training they can all fake, because nobody is going to verify they actually did it, and increasing the cost of the license by $1000 doesn't mean shit, because they will make enough in one day to cover EVERYONE's licenses. These places are a pure cash cow. I can't believe nobody has ever tried to rob an AMP. I would bet they have over 50k in cash on hand a lot of times. I'm certainly not suggesting anyone try this, I'm merely saying I'm surprised nobody has. Either way I'm done with the spas for a long time. I have had my fill, I have seen it all, and the girls aren't going to get any hotter or younger than what I have already seen and had, multiple times. If I added up how much I have spent I could have probably bought a new car. So, have fun doing what you all do, but I would definitely be more careful in the days to come, and don't freak out of you are laying there ass-naked and balls-deep in some asian pussy when some inspectors come ringing the bell, just hurry up and get dressed before they open your door!
[QUOTE=Spa Lunker;1369266]I was in the spa when the inspectors came in. I was scared out of my mind and had to hide. Then I went over to Tokyo and they showed up there too! It was the scariest time of my life, haha. I came to find out that they really didn't care about me, because I was not what they were there for. However, this recent legislation is not what will hurt them. The training they can all fake, because nobody is going to verify they actually did it, and increasing the cost of the license by $1000 doesn't mean shit, because they will make enough in one day to cover EVERYONE's licenses. These places are a pure cash cow. I can't believe nobody has ever tried to rob an AMP. I would bet they have over 50k in cash on hand a lot of times. I'm certainly not suggesting anyone try this, I'm merely saying I'm surprised nobody has. Either way I'm done with the spas for a long time. I have had my fill, I have seen it all, and the girls aren't going to get any hotter or younger than what I have already seen and had, multiple times. If I added up how much I have spent I could have probably bought a new car. So, have fun doing what you all do, but I would definitely be more careful in the days to come, and don't freak out of you are laying there ass-naked and balls-deep in some asian pussy when some inspectors come ringing the bell, just hurry up and get dressed before they open your door![/QUOTE]I think we need to bring the ladies of MVOC to one of our spas and line up a train on them! That's all that this comes down too! They need to get fucked, they are jealous! As far as the robbery, I would dress up like a Vampire. Capes fangs the whole shabang! On a more serious note, the massage certification does have to be done by an accredited.
School or state certified teacher. Once a certificate is issued it will have to be displayed in plain site of patrons and inspectors. One of the things this forces is the use of real names within the establishment! (Scary with internet abilities today!) If we got any stalkers here, take it easy. There is a way around this! The spa can become a private club, sell memberships and operate completely outside of the new legislation! As in other business such as bars ans private clubs they operate the same model but have clear cut different rules! If anyone wants to check this out contact a corporate attorney who specializes in business structuring! I was going to talk to one of our favorites.
And let them know this over the weekend. If they don't have someone to go to or understand this I will point them in the right direction.
Ok enought, one good thing about the end of the spas is finally some of you doom and gloom people will shut up. Since the new law has passed and there is nothing we can do about it, can we move back into reviewing the lovely spa massuses? I am sick of this will end all over and over. I get it. It over before I die I just want to know what spa should I go to? Anybody?
[QUOTE=Frank69;1369652]Ok enought, one good thing about the end of the spas is finally some of you doom and gloom people will shut up. Since the new law has passed and there is nothing we can do about it, can we move back into reviewing the lovely spa massuses? I am sick of this will end all over and over. I get it. It over before I die I just want to know what spa should I go to? Anybody?[/QUOTE]What the hell Frank! What do you think is going to be talked about right now. If you want to review, go ahead! Next your going to say your famous line "don't ruin my good time". Well pal, let me bring you into reality, you will read this shit for a long time to come! If you don't like the talk here, this is what you do! Log out! It cracks me up when a forum member tries to redirect the topic, it hasn't worked for you up till now and it probably never will!