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Recommendation. Abby
[QUOTE=Velcrolio;4363639]Neglected to put Abby's phone number.
702*fivefivethree 8 xxx 9.
Please don't ask me questions about her She does her own thing, I was just informing people she's a great fuck.
And recommended. Connect directly with her if you are interested.[/QUOTE]
I realize that Abby has other reviews/pictures and looks to be a strong contender to me...almost. I contacted Abby off of this recommendation. She definitely does her own thing, she doesn't take any BS but is very confidential which I can completely respect. She quoted me $500 for a 1/2 hr granted the menu I was looking for was def on the table, just really steep rates. She also requires a deposit upfront before she would even schedule a meet, which in my book is a huge "No No" guessing this is because I'd be a new client and her way of weeding out the losers. She def has her own system. Just by the little interaction with her (asking the right questions) I have no doubt the OP is right. She most likely is a great fuck. Abby seemed like she had really fun and outgoing personality but really got hung up on the money and the deposit. And her tone completely changed. If you don't mind high rates and giving a deposit via PayPal or Venmo. She'd probably be right up your ally. The deposit is a huge red flag for me and refuse to do so. I didn't try negotiating because I knew I wasn't going to send her any money beforehand but YMMV. If you partake please report back.
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Must see
She should be a right of passage for visiting Vegas.
[URL]https://escortindex.com/ad/lasvegas/702-559-8576/8/2672179[/URL]
Made up for my ripoff from the day earlier. Face looks mostly like the pics but body is just amazing!
Started with BBBJ after she asked, "are you clean?" Fuck yes! After a little of that, I had to DATY and she tasted soooooo good. I spent some time down there and I would like to think she enjoyed every moment of it. After that, she wrapped me up and we started at missionary. Got some great GFE action with a lot of tongue but it was an awkward forcing of the tongue down my throat kind of thing, strange but hot.
Ended up doggy with a thumb working her "other" hole and I could see that being an option in the future. Ended up unloading on her ass and we just laid there in bed together for another 10-15 min. What a gem! I need to come back to Vegas.
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Roxxie
[QUOTE=RBFHatred;4365350]What was the damage to you. Quoted and actual spent? Thanks.[/QUOTE]She started at 4 but we settled on 2.
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Must See
[QUOTE=Needed9;4365731]She should be a right of passage for visiting Vegas.
[URL]https://escortindex.com/ad/lasvegas/702-559-8576/8/2672179[/URL]
Made up for my ripoff from the day earlier. Face looks mostly like the pics but body is just amazing!
Started with BBBJ after she asked, "are you clean?" Fuck yes! After a little of that, I had to DATY and she tasted soooooo good. I spent some time down there and I would like to think she enjoyed every moment of it. After that, she wrapped me up and we started at missionary. Got some great GFE action with a lot of tongue but it was an awkward forcing of the tongue down my throat kind of thing, strange but hot.
Ended up doggy with a thumb working her "other" hole and I could see that being an option in the future. Ended up unloading on her ass and we just laid there in bed together for another 10-15 min. What a gem! I need to come back to Vegas.[/QUOTE]What were the damages for this gem?
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[QUOTE=DoctorManToy;4366326]What were the damages for this gem?[/QUOTE]I saw her last week. Damage was $$. She mentioned she will only be in town for another couple of weeks.
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Eros
[QUOTE=HawaiiDude808;4364088]Anyone contacted anyone off of the Eros website?[/QUOTE]I've tried them three times. First time was a huge upsell and girl wasn't even close to her pic. (Realize safety and anonymity are important, however ad was 5'2", blonde, petite. A curvy, brunette, 5'10" showed up). Between the upsell and looks I declined.
Decided to try again and the second time was very good. No upsell, pics accurate, very enjoyable.
The third time was like the first. Probably won't use them again.
As always YMMV.
Good luck.
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[QUOTE=HawaiiDude808;4364088]Anyone contacted anyone off of the Eros website?[/QUOTE]I have, some of the girls on there also have a PD.
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[QUOTE=Mikez702;4365965]She started at 4 but we settled on 2.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that helpful info. Keep the market level, folks.
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[QUOTE=Needed9;4365731]She should be a right of passage for visiting Vegas.
[URL]https://escortindex.com/ad/lasvegas/702-559-8576/8/2672179[/URL]
.[/QUOTE]She's the only one I've been going to consistently as far as independent ones go!
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Rumors
[QUOTE=JimmyB58;4349969]If you like real skinny try this one. Real pics and she's a sweetheart. Great personality and not a clock watcher. She has incall at a decent weekly at Flamingo and Boulder. One of her reviewers said he did her bbfscip but she says not true. I tried but no luck so YMMV.
[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/review_list/7022912285[/URL][/QUOTE]I tried as well but no luck with bbfscip. Seems to be more of a rumor.
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I have to apologize to you and everyone on this forum for anything positive I said about this provider. When I had a good experience, it was overwhelmingly good. The next was the worst of my life.
If that sounds like two personalities, bingo. She's either bipolor or has borderline disorder. A symptom of both diagnoses is that the person either trusts overly or suspects deeply. It's called black / white-ing, as in there's no gray area, either very dark in outlook or very bright, and she does this to every customer from the reviews I've unearthed. I'll be laughed at, and deservedly so, but she wanted to take selfies, but had broken her phone. With me watching carefully while dodging being in frame, she took pics on my phone. No chance she had any chance to do much harm. I was always watching that screen, prepared to snatch the device from her skinny hand at any sign of sneaky fiddling. But fast as lightning, she'd managed to send some naked pics to dudes on my recent text messages, and for good measure she deleted the entire text history and contact info for one of my closest friends. Those unexpected pics during work hours caused some damage. I had to do some awkward explaining. But wait, there's more. At one point she leapt up, clenched her fists and made to take a swing at me for telling her that I'd gotten questions about her on PMs. She accused me of trying to score income off referrals, that is to say she was calling me a pimp. Bam, done. It ended, and she's refunding. It was a lucky thing for her I was in a good mood when she stood up and feigned a clenched-fist lunge at me shouting 'motherfucker!' over something I did to help keep her secure from mongers I know as sociopaths. That was the surest sign of borderline disorder--putting me on a pedestal as better than I am, then an immediate swing to dark suspicion. My phone is on secure lockdown wrt apps in which she could have done damage financially, at least I can save some face there.
Unless you dearly love damaging backdraft you can't possibly predict when a borderline / bipolar acts out, and I can assure you that you can't possibly match them for imagination, give it a pass. I can't say I TOFTT because I'd read the bad reviews, I should've seen the signs. I know these disorders all too well. But at least she's not on H, which is rare in this town. I've spoken to Jackson about deleting all my posts about her except this one. Time to take a break. Not that this discouraged me, but it did show me that two decades doing this all over the world told me nothing about this town. Things here are truly shocking compared to elsewhere, and I say this in part due to things I saw in the 13 hours I spent with Abby the first time. Yes, 13 hours. She liked me. We talked for hours as dozens of inquiries went unanswered. I got backstage pass to the show, and there wasn't yet a sign of the issues to come. It was hilarious and horrifying. Adding that to other horror shows, well, have fun everyone. I'll restrict my misbehavior to shooting porn promo stills and patreon content with established chick friends.
[QUOTE=Reviews101;4365397]I realize that Abby has other reviews/pictures and looks to be a strong contender to me...almost. I contacted Abby off of this recommendation. She definitely does her own thing, she doesn't take any BS but is very confidential which I can completely respect. She quoted me $500 for a 1/2 hr granted the menu I was looking for was def on the table, just really steep rates. She also requires a deposit upfront before she would even schedule a meet, which in my book is a huge "No No" guessing this is because I'd be a new client and her way of weeding out the losers. She def has her own system. Just by the little interaction with her (asking the right questions) I have no doubt the OP is right. She most likely is a great fuck. Abby seemed like she had really fun and outgoing personality but really got hung up on the money and the deposit. And her tone completely changed. If you don't mind high rates and giving a deposit via PayPal or Venmo. She'd probably be right up your ally. The deposit is a huge red flag for me and refuse to do so. I didn't try negotiating because I knew I wasn't going to send her any money beforehand but YMMV. If you partake please report back.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=RBFHatred;4363566]Feel free to PM me for what will likely be the keys to the kingdom with half or less than what you spent on your last trip. If not, at least do yourself and both sides of the hobby a service and take this into consideration.[/QUOTE]Re: Post #4660.
If you don't want to read this rather long post, skip to the end for the summary. Excuse me for the long-windedness, but here's what I have to say on the matter.
The offer to PM regarding this matter was specifically for the Pilot character because he is way overspending and it messes up both sides of the hobby. I've been getting a lot of other folks messaging and I'm generally happy to help senior members who contribute to the forum, but this was for him so please stop messaging unless you're messaging for "the usual" exchanges that take place on here (not in reference to this post). All I generally have to say on this matter is posted below and is expanded a little from the previous post. Pilot will probably just continue as he does anyways "because he can" and "money doesn't hurt him". But to serve our hobby, I'm letting him and folks like him know it hurts the hobby and the girls too, believe it or not. I have some experience in the realm where these girls keep their heads, not because I've been the whale they sought, but because through luck, living situation, and a liking for complementary hobbies (actual ones), I became friends with a girl who lives this life and she introduced me to a couple of her colleagues with fancy "model" websites, and a few who strip at high-end establishments. This led to me having a leg up if I needed an ice-breaker at a strip club or intel as to who may be easier to talk to about things. It also got me slightly more favorable treatment sometimes because of the vetting. I've really stepped away from this quite a bit now and keep contact with a small select few and am more into simpler sessions with girls from PD at the moment.
Pilot has high expectations of service and likes extended sessions and what not. Even considering that, he is getting taken. I've splurged and had many multiple hour visits with different girls (GPS girls on nice "model" sites) as well as entire evenings out with such paid company. I paid for dinner, drinks, and activities, and still spent less than he did for an hour or two. It's his money, but what's worse is that his actions hurt the other side of the hobby too because girls will start to expect too much and either stop seeing people for a reasonable amount and just wait for a tourist who might shell out (which comes back to hurting our side cause we lose a reasonable provider). In some cases, they leave the game prematurely and things go downhill. A provider I used to see worked at a high-end club here. She started about 6 months before SEMA and did well, clearing several hundred on a given night and roughly a thousand on a weekend night just from club acts not including OTC.
She used to do well from stage tips and dances alone. Like I said, she offered OTC extras too. She says she was selective about who to offer that, and she generally started at 800 and would get talked down a bit. I've seen her a few times for 300. I've even gotten freebies in barter. First time was for 500 and that's basically my upper limit and only go there when there's a novelty such as a stripper or something else worth a premium. I've paid that upper limit or slightly more only as a first-time rate and only to 3 different girls and even as such I likely won't be doing so anymore. One of those three girls saw me the next day instead (Sunday evening) because it was late and we were both getting to the end of our wits. For the 500 she met me for dinner, then drinks, then some hanging out on Fremont, then came back to my place. Basically just switched out an evening at the club for an evening out with a twist. This is just an example of what can be gotten by an attractive girl working at a club that will limo you to them and waive cover (for you tourists). I'm local so don't pay cover anyhow.
The main girl this story is actually about, was doing quite well until she "learned the value of her time and companionship" after some tourist here for SEMA actually paid her 1000 for a session that was just an hour or so.[blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] he was eager to spend and raised her offer for whatever effing reason. She's probably leaving out that he wanted to piss on her or something. Another SEMA rube saw her a couple days later and took her offer at 800 and didn't even get his plumbing going. Instead she sat there in his hotel room and ate room service with him and left. For that money, take a pill and get your money's worth! Sounds like a Pilot story paying that much for no GFE or any action whatsoever.
Many of you will say even what I spent is too much, and I tend to agree so you'd be astonished to see Pilot's accounts of his hobbying when he's here in town. Anyhow, girls subsequently see me for 300 or 400. I've had a girl who stuck to the first time premium and I won't pay 500 or 600 to a girl more than once because the novelty has been had. So it was a one-off but I knew that might happen one of these times. I'll see someone for my upper limit only the first time and if she truly thinks we have rapport she'll go lower now that I'm vetted (usually by her colleagues as well as herself by that point). If not, it sucks, but oh well. I've seen many others for 400 the first time and 200-300 for subsequent nights. Almost all of my hobbying is for multiple hours appointments, because I take that to be my personal definition of GFE, not just the kissing and what not (I also don't go bare unless it's a civilian date anyhow). I used to not be into the in and outs, but decent luck on PD is changing that.
So this girl stopped seeing me because she got poisoned by the SEMA week and like I said, "learned the value of her time and companionship". Fast forward to current day where she no longer desires to take off her clothes for less than a certain amount and is now serving cocktails and doing massage. She does alright and still escorts, but only when running into someone looking to blow serious money or who doesn't care about it as much because they just won it gambling. She's still living her best life like she's making the same money though. She even hit me up toward the end of the month in May asking if I was down to give her 500. I thought maybe she had finally come back to reason and we could talk about having an evening out, but no. She'd come up short for rent. This is a far cry from the girl who was originally playing it smart and asked me to help her plan for the future. We'd even opened up a Roth IRA and she set aside every dollar she didn't spend on shopping, drinking, and drugs to max it out almost as a priority and still invested in funds after the contribution limit was reached. Her website isn't even up anymore. I don't know if that's because she doesn't pay the hosting fees or what.
Another such tragedy is Jess the redhead with the scabs. I've only seen her once and that was fairly recently. She's a long way down from what Trojan and another senior described her to once be. See the pictures from her facebook that were posted and compare them to the grainy photos posted nowadays. Even her build and demeanor has eroded. But since I have little experience with her, they're much more equipped to inform you of the situation. I just brought her up as an example of the degradation that these girls can go through once they get a taste for high dollars and it perverts their thinking and acting.
You can do other things with your money, and you're helping the girls short-term but literally killing them long-term. You'll flood them and get them thinking there's a well in the desert. They'll drink it all up for the moment and expect it to always be the case. Vegas messes a lot of girls up and sucks them into that lifestyle they don't back down from far too often. I see far too many forty-something women at the club, and I myself seldom go but for when I'm hosting out of towners. You may think I'm being Captain save-a-hoe, which I may be to an extent. But I'm also taking this personally because Pilot and the like cost me one in my rotation and continue to put this market, which has been diminishing in recent years, into further decline.
- Long story short, stop being a rube.
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Any info on her?
[URL]https://s4.eroticmonkey.ch/uploads/escorts/203820/main_58c1fade94ec1.jpg[/URL]
I've seen her occasionally post but the pictures seen a couple years old. I can't find any reviews that are recent but I'm still learning my way around. Thanks for any input.
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Not Ready for the Majors
A year ago, on a visit to LV, made a rookie mistake of unknowingly scheduling an appointment with an escort from an agency (Eros).
Wanted the $200 "agency fee" with huge upsell to follow. After being unable to come to an agreement due to a severe case of GPS, I was out the fee and no date.
Fast forward to a week ago. I've read the advice given on these pages. Thought I'd learned my lesson.
Prior to my most recent visit I researched various sites (AL, PD, etc). Contacted a couple ladies I was interested in, asked if they were independent, verified donation, verified description was close and arranged to meet prior to going to my room, so I could reverify. Told them if they requested an agency fee I would not pay and would end the date.
Met near the lobby, she's close to her pics, seems pleasant so we go upstairs. She then tells me $200 agency fee, at which time I tell her thanks but no thanks. She protests, but eventually ends of leaving.
I'm obviously doing something wrong, guess need more time in the minors.
Good news is I met a lovely CG later that evening and ended up having two dates.
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Not really
[QUOTE=BeanTowner78;4367167]
Met near the lobby, she's close to her pics, seems pleasant so we go upstairs. She then tells me $200 agency fee, at which time I tell her thanks but no thanks. She protests, but eventually ends of leaving.
I'm obviously doing something wrong, guess need more time in the minors.[/QUOTE]A hooker that lied to you? I am shocked!!
There are plenty of great talent that are reviewed on these threads. Stick to the known quantity and avoid agencies.
Play safe,
C3.