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[QUOTE=Luckylew]“It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.”
St. Jame is in City of Atlanta jurisdiction, Atlanta Police Department and Maia is City of Roswell. These are two separate juridictions, separate cities.[/QUOTE]
lol lol lol I hear you man
I believe there's a lot more to this BS story than Milesarcher is letting on, perhaps he was ripped off by one of the staff at St Jame or he's a fellow AMP competitor. Unless you can provide a medical report stating that one or more of the providers at St Jamie has HIV then you need to STFU. Spreading false rumors that someone has HIV and you don't know this as fact could land you in some serious legal trouble.
[QUOTE=Milesarcher33]Apparently, there is some confusion about my report. First, I did not say that 2 of the providers at St Jame had HIV or that I have HIV or caught it at St Jame. I do not have HIV, thank God. (Everyone ought to always, in every situation, use protection) I said that my source (who is in a position to know) told me that one of the reasons why St Jame was expected to be raided was that the authorities (not me) had information that one or two of the girls that either currently work there or recently have worked there (they may now be gone) were HIV positive. To repeat, I personally have no knowledge that anyone at St Jame now or ever are or were HIV positive. I am merely reporting what I was told by someone "in the know". Another reason for the so called raid was that it was suspected that one or more of the girls working there was illegal. (Really?, What a surprize! This sounds more like an excuse for a raid than a reason.)
As to the raid, once word got out on this board, the target was changed. Maia is now closed isn't it? Whether a raid at St Jame is still forthcoming or not, I do not know.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kid Cisco]Wow they talk about all these massage parlors and these places that traffic in hookers all across the USA, these places have hidden rooms were 5-7 girls sleeping in a room that is a size of a bathroom.
They showed about 5 shows back to back.
Kid Cisco[/QUOTE]Two of the major players and one offshoot were closed Friday and for the weekend here in Amp Heaven Warren Ohio. They of course claim water problems but we know this is bs. Never happened before. When did you see this?
Happy Mongering
[QUOTE=Book Man]Two of the major players and one offshoot were closed Friday and for the weekend here in Amp Heaven Warren Ohio. They of course claim water problems but we know this is bs. Never happened before. When did you see this?
Happy Mongering[/QUOTE]
It came on last night on MSNBC they ran back to back to back to back stories on woman in Thailand and other Asian woman being sold and traffic across the USA and also parts of Asia, then they showed girls here in the USA being force to sell ass on Craiglist.
Maybe they will show it again this week.
Kid Cisco
Check out these two links and look at the photos carefully. Double Jeopardy.
[url]http://celebgalz.com/jang-jin-young-korean-actress-jang-jin-young-died-photo/[/url]
[url]http://atlanta.backpage.com/BodyRubs/magic-touch-spa_-grand-opening_-_-_-_-_-25/6066772[/url]
OK, guys they having another REPORT on TV tonight !!! on ABC world news tonight, about Craiglist about them turning a blind eye about pimps pushing young girls into selling their ass, I am sure they will have undercover cops taking down tricks.
Kid Cisco
[QUOTE=Jello123]Check out these two links and look at the photos carefully. Double Jeopardy.
[url]http://celebgalz.com/jang-jin-young-korean-actress-jang-jin-young-died-photo/[/url]
[url]http://atlanta.backpage.com/BodyRubs/magic-touch-spa_-grand-opening_-_-_-_-_-25/6066772[/url][/QUOTE]Can't tell if you are serious. Sorry if I misinterpretted, but it has been well established that the ATL AMPs don't use pics of their real girls. As for Magical Touch. Their ladies (there are two now) are just plain fugly.
On the plus side, there are not many ATL AMPs of which I am aware that have girls that fall into the age range of these news broadcasts any ways. If I am wrong. Someone, PLEASE tell me where. I have pretty much given up on the ATL AMP scene right now due to lack of quality / value and would really appreciate being told where I can go to be proven wrong.
PS. Just confirming a post from long ago. Magical Touch off Boggs, Saigon off JC and Empress by Discover Mills. All Chinese, all legit, and no extras of which I am aware.
[QUOTE=Chigurh]I am sure some of those places exist, but they are the exception in the AMP world. The REAL dens of slave trafficking are all those chinese buffet places you see in small towns across the country. If they are not using illegal hispanics as the cooks, then they are using asians who signed a deal to essentially work as slaves in exchange for immigrating to the US.[/QUOTE]
I've gotten to know some of the Chinese foot massage ladies over the years. Many of them have paid fees in China of $20,000 to get to the US. Their families have borrowed to raise the cash. That cash gets distributed up and down the system to work out visa issues, documents, travel, housing, etc. Once they get here, they've got to work off the debt. Many start out working like slaves at Chinese restaurants. If you can believe it, the foot massage joints are a step up. In addition to the debts, most of them come to the US because they want to support elderly parents back home or find some way to start a life. Typically they will live 4-6 in an apartment to cut costs. Most of them work 12 hour days, 6 days a week. Once they start the foot massage world, they have 2 choices. They can try to get a body massage license, which means 3-6 months off work and a lot more debt. Or, they can just do just foot massages. They get to keep half the hourly rate plus whatever tips they get. In a good economy, the foot massage women average about $100 bucks a day. Those with body massage licenses of course do better. Most of that money goes to pay off debts or back home. It's not slavery, but it's a pretty bleak existence. I'm amazed that most of them can at least stay pleasant around customers. I don't think I could do that.
Had visitor from out of state last couple days, said he wanted a massage. I had heard about place off Sandy Plains by Arby's so I thought. Let him TOFTT. Said he was lead to room, girl was very nice, about an 8. He got undressed and was told to leave on his underwear. There was also a sign stating such. Said the massage was top rate, but alais, no touching or extras available. He said on the flip it was obvious he wanted more, but she never massaged anywhere near his "boys". All in all worth the price for the massage according to him.
[QUOTE=Wazoo]I've gotten to know some of the Chinese foot massage ladies over the years. Many of them have paid fees in China of $20,000 to get to the US. Their families have borrowed to raise the cash. That cash gets distributed up and down the system to work out visa issues, documents, travel, housing, etc. Once they get here, they've got to work off the debt. Many start out working like slaves at Chinese restaurants. If you can believe it, the foot massage joints are a step up. In addition to the debts, most of them come to the US because they want to support elderly parents back home or find some way to start a life. Typically they will live 4-6 in an apartment to cut costs. Most of them work 12 hour days, 6 days a week. Once they start the foot massage world, they have 2 choices. They can try to get a body massage license, which means 3-6 months off work and a lot more debt. Or, they can just do just foot massages. They get to keep half the hourly rate plus whatever tips they get. In a good economy, the foot massage women average about $100 bucks a day. Those with body massage licenses of course do better. Most of that money goes to pay off debts or back home. It's not slavery, but it's a pretty bleak existence. I'm amazed that most of them can at least stay pleasant around customers. I don't think I could do that.[/QUOTE]
YOU ARE 100% CORRECT !!!!
Everything you said is the same stuff they talk about on the TV show, but at the time they film these shows the only options at the time were for them to work in the massage houses they showed were they sleep like dogs, below the massage houses.
Also they showed Russia girls that were told they were going to work in a office BUT later told they had to pay off their airfare and Visa paperwork and started working at a stripclub and later started working as a escort they only way they got away they ran off with a trick that later called the police.
It's easy to just say hell no it's not true but as we all know the only place that have girls that stay longer then a week or two are those broken down 40+ woman that work in these spas now, most are ex Navy wives that didn't learn to do anything BUT fuck and suck.
Gold Spa are the only ones that keep dimes coming in and out of there if you ask the girls they ALL say I came from LA lol yeah right lol
Kid Cisco
[QUOTE=Kid Cisco]It's easy to just say hell no it's not true but as we all know the only place that have girls that stay longer then a week or two are those broken down 40+ woman that work in these spas now, most are ex Navy wives that didn't learn to do anything BUT fuck and suck.
Gold Spa are the only ones that keep dimes coming in and out of there if you ask the girls they ALL say I came from LA LOL yeah right LOL
Kid Cisco[/QUOTE]Like I said, I know those places exist, but they are NOT the Korean run AMPs, and every AMP in this area is Korean run. A large number of the workers in the AMPs are here illegally, but they're not here against their will.
[QUOTE=Chigurh]Like I said, I know those places exist, but they are NOT the Korean run AMPs, and every AMP in this area is Korean run. A large number of the workers in the AMPs are here illegally, but they're not here against their will.[/QUOTE]
And to clarify my comment about the foot massage ladies, none of them are here against their wills either. They know what they are getting into before they leave China. They know it is going to be rough but think it's their best chance to earn some money and better their lives. Many of them do find out that they make much less than promised here. People don't buy as many foot massages in a bad economy. Also, most of them have to pay a bond to the spa manager that they will get back only after working for the contracted time. Once they land in a spa, they are pretty much stuck for 6 months. So it's bottom of the barrel employment, but it's nothing like slavery.
I'm sure that those sex slave type places are around in the underground. I've just never seen one. The Korean AMPS and Chinese foot certainly aren't that.
I wrote my post mainly to say that mongers should give these women a break. Most are pretty polite and give good service despite the grueling hours. Some kind words and a little tip is a nice gesture.
Visited Green the other day. 70+ mamasan led me to a room and I asked for a line up. She showed me a line-up of 4, all of them are 45+. I asked mamasan whether she had anybody younger. She told me that they are young, I told her that, yeah, they are younger than you, and I started running. Worst line up I have ever seen in Green.
Green used to have some good looking spinners while it was Ocean. I still miss Meena, Ruby, Kelly, Candy, and most recently Sarah.
Recently visited Min Hua again on Buford Hwy. Typical setup. I went with the gal with the asian/latina look. Long hair, b to see size cups. Opted for the usual half hour as last time. The difference between last time and this time was that she was very pushy in terms for upgrading to the full hour. I declined and she said that I didn't get to "turn over" onto my back in the half hour session. At first I thought she was joking, so I turned over, and she gave "it" a grab like she was going to go for the HJ, and then asked me to stay for the full hour again. This time I declined and she said time's up and left the room. I got dressed, walked down the hall toward the front desk with money in hand and just laid it on the counter and walked out. They could see it was the proper payment, but I could tell that she was scrambling to see if there was a tip, which I left a small amount ($5). I wasn't bad service, but it has changed. If there is a next time, I'll explain to HER how things will go. Or NO tip at all.
Maia is still closed. I heard that LE has forced open the inside door last Friday. Don't know any details about any arrest. Their cars are not on the lot, and also there is no sign at the door. They might be gone forever.
I guess the next stop for LE is Evergreen, which is under same jurisdiction as Maia.