General Reports

[QUOTE=Mrmojo69;2554292]I have a lot of compassion for these lovely ladies. That's why it bothers me so much to see them suffering financially with such spectacular income and opportunity.

Plus we have all seen that decent customer service is the exception and not the rule. Most of these lovely and talented ladies eventually piss off or rip off their best customers.

I am just surprised. They should have a wonderful life. Unlimited demand, easy work, flexible hours, fantastic pay, tax free. If they built up a regular customer base they'd have great income with little hassle and virtually eliminate all the risk factors. But very few succeed like that. Most constantly struggle needlessly. It's a shame.[/QUOTE]I know one in particular who is playful, pretty, and very talented but is so ashamed of being a prostitue she has to be drugged to preform. Then she goes down hill fast. No amount of money or drugs make her feel good about herself.

[QUOTE=BoroDude;2554360]Earlier this year I had a conversation with a girl about her business. She's not popular; maybe two posters here have reviewed her. I was told that she earns at least $1,000 every day she posts on backpage and she works 2-3 days a week. Also, this girl does not show her face in her ads.

Now imagine what someone like Adrien made, who was very attractive, showed her face, and worked all the time.

I'm sure even the negatively reviewed girls here, like the Boro-gang, make good money. Most guys don't read the boards.[/QUOTE]A girl I was close friends with in Florida, had enough money saved to pay cash for a very nice house in Orlando, after 2 years dancing in a club. Drove a nice car as well. This was in the late 80's.

The few times I've noticed a gal feeling bad about the biz, I've reminded them that all they are doing is bringing joy to people who need it. How can that really be wrong?

[QUOTE=JustLookn;2554406]I know one in particular who is playful, pretty, and very talented but is so ashamed of being a prostitue she has to be drugged to preform. Then she goes down hill fast. No amount of money or drugs make her feel good about herself.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SoiCowboy100;2554013]It should be no surprise they have no money. The majority of them are uneducated, have no conception how to handle and save money, live with and support low life scum of the earth boyfriends who refuse to work and are useless human beings.

And of course there is meth, coke, heroin and other opioids. Let's not forget alcohol as well.

It's an endless cycle they just can't seem to break.

The story goes on and on and on.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JustLookn;2554406]I know one in particular who is playful, pretty, and very talented but is so ashamed of being a prostitue she has to be drugged to preform. Then she goes down hill fast. No amount of money or drugs make her feel good about herself.[/QUOTE]I,just tagged why'all post to expain a bit more.

Cowboy was right, some have habits that they can't control. So, the lure of easy money makes them want to get in the business. The ones who do drugs will do what ever it to feed that habit. Lie, cheat or whatever.

Just lookn is right as well, some do, need the extra help. Maybe it's a dead beat dad or whatever. They have friends in the business, who told them about it.

Then you have the true providers, they treat you like a king. Never beg or want to borrow money. These ladies know how to treat a man, love sex and are safe. That's why I only see the real providers. There are some excellent ladies here and a. Few that travel. Treat them right.

[QUOTE=KittyElectro;2554266]Maybe they do, but unless they're very good and very reckless, I doubt they're getting a full 40 hours all year at that rate. Very few turn enough tricks to break out of the poverty level if sex work is the only thing they do.

Have a little compassion, dude. They have a shit life.[/QUOTE]For most it is a really shitty life!

[QUOTE=SoiCowboy100;2555159]For most it is a really shitty life![/QUOTE]Cowboy clean up, your pm box.

[QUOTE=KittyElectro;2554266]Maybe they do, but unless they're very good and very reckless, I doubt they're getting a full 40 hours all year at that rate. Very few turn enough tricks to break out of the poverty level if sex work is the only thing they do.

Have a little compassion, dude. They have a shit life.[/QUOTE]They don't have a shit life, they make their life SHIT!

This has bothered me a while, but how often does initial contact feel like a job application and interview?

Advertisers often use vague language, with brief and subjective (read: bullshit) descriptions, fake or 5 year old pictures, no rates listed, no website or reviews, etc etc. Yet, when contacted, some want a fucking 5 page see. V. , an instant selfie, and 3 references in the last week.

WTF? I totally understand the need for them to be safe too, but some take it wayyyyy to far. No, you can't call my ducking employer. No, I will not text you a selfie with attached location metadata. And for Christ's sake, if you're "just being safe", how would you feel I f every time I texted a new advertiser I was like "oh, yeah, this girl Rocket totally knows me and we did some wild shit. Hers her ad and number, definitely give her a call and she'll tell you all about it!

I mean, seriously, what the fuck? It's tough being safe, I get it. But send you a photo of my license or work ID? Are you fucking joking?

I suppose my point is this: discretion doesn't just mean keeping things secret. It's means having the sense not to ask some things in the first place.

She is looking for a few good men today, and will travel.

She is in Chatanooga as well.

Will share info with trusted members.

[QUOTE=Myfuntime;2556577]This has bothered me a while, but how often does initial contact feel like a job application and interview?

Advertisers often use vague language, with brief and subjective (read: bullshit) descriptions, fake or 5 year old pictures, no rates listed, no website or reviews, etc etc. Yet, when contacted, some want a fucking 5 page see. V. , an instant selfie, and 3 references in the last week.

WTF? I totally understand the need for them to be safe too, but some take it wayyyyy to far. No, you can't call my ducking employer. No, I will not text you a selfie with attached location metadata. And for Christ's sake, if you're "just being safe", how would you feel I f every time I texted a new advertiser I was like "oh, yeah, this girl Rocket totally knows me and we did some wild shit. Hers her ad and number, definitely give her a call and she'll tell you all about it!

I mean, seriously, what the fuck? It's tough being safe, I get it. But send you a photo of my license or work ID? Are you fucking joking?[/QUOTE]I thought belonging to a verification service would eliminate the need for that information.

[QUOTE=Mrmojo69;2553114]I've always been amazed at that. These ladies make $200/ hr and have costs of $70/ night and are always broke. I can't imagine how that works. I've had wonderful gals ask me for money to help them with this or that crisis. I've always wanted to help but you know it's a con. How can anyone make so much money so easily and be broke all the time?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SoiCowboy100;2554013]It should be no surprise they have no money. The majority of them are uneducated, have no conception how to handle and save money, live with and support low life scum of the earth boyfriends who refuse to work and are useless human beings.

And of course there is meth, coke, heroin and other opioids. Let's not forget alcohol as well.

It's an endless cycle they just can't seem to break.

The story goes on and on and on.[/QUOTE]First off most of the decent ones are out more than 70 a day more like 120 to 150 counting gas, room and other expenses. I also know a lot of you guys cancel several appointments and try and negotiate rates down at the last second (this is not directed at either of the guys above have only heard very good things about SoiCowbly stories kinda remind me of the Toby Kieth song "I will never smoke weed with Willie again" LOL Mrmojo I know nothing about.) All that being said these girls are capable of making some very good money but it is easy money and as such they spend it like it has no value. Then you add in the fact that most of these girls really don't want to be doing this so once they get the money they need to get by they quit answering their phone and taking appointments. As for the ashamed part really, how many of you guys could possibly think a 20 something young lady would just absolutely love burying her face in the crotch of several random 50 to 60+ year old guys and shoving our cocks down their throat each day or having them climb on top of them and sweat like a hog. There is days these girls only make 3 or 4 hundred after expenses. Now granted that is way more than they could doing anything else and about half or 2/3 what I gross in day but it is not consistent and they have no benefits not that most care about those anyway. Soi is right it is an endless cycle and yes most use drugs or alcohol to help cope with the depression. In the end, I know of very few who have ended up in a better position than they were in when they started. All they managed to do is survive, raise their kids, take some good vacations, drive nice cars, live in nice houses but in the end really had nothing put back for the future. Just like me I have made very good money doing what I do but most I have spent on women and wine the rest I have just blown. LOL.

[QUOTE=GottaRun;2558387]First off most of the decent ones are out more than 70 a day more like 120 to 150 counting gas, room and other expenses. I also know a lot of you guys cancel several appointments and try and negotiate rates down at the last second (this is not directed at either of the guys above have only heard very good things about SoiCowbly stories kinda remind me of the Toby Kieth song "I will never smoke weed with Willie again" LOL Mrmojo I know nothing about.) All that being said these girls are capable of making some very good money but it is easy money and as such they spend it like it has no value. Then you add in the fact that most of these girls really don't want to be doing this so once they get the money they need to get by they quit answering their phone and taking appointments. As for the ashamed part really, how many of you guys could possibly think a 20 something young lady would just absolutely love burying her face in the crotch of several random 50 to 60+ year old guys and shoving our cocks down their throat each day or having them climb on top of them and sweat like a hog. There is days these girls only make 3 or 4 hundred after expenses. Now granted that is way more than they could doing anything else and about half or 2/3 what I gross in day but it is not consistent and they have no benefits not that most care about those anyway. Soi is right it is an endless cycle and yes most use drugs or alcohol to help cope with the depression.
In the end, I know of very few who have ended up in a better position than they were in when they started. All they managed to do is survive, raise their kids, take some good vacations, drive nice cars, live in nice houses but in the end really had nothing put back for the future. Just like me I have made very good money doing what I do but most I have spent on women and wine the rest I have just blown. LOL.[/QUOTE]I could not have said it better myself.

Last year we had a discussion about bars that were great for finding some UTRs and I'd love to have it again. I've got a free weekend and want to hit up some new places.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

I have encountered a recurring problem for which I would appreciate your input. How far in advance do others set their appointments? Is it common practice to make plans a week or two in advance? Or does everything tend to be more spur of the moment?

I personally prefer to set a schedule some time in advance. But I am on a rotten roll of making contact only to be given the brush off of "call me the day of. " Do I just need to reorient my thinking to expecting more spur of the moment?