"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

I have never really met anyone off CL and my ads don't do shit. But I keep reading how other peoples do. I will admit that reading smokarz post this morning got me fired up. So today I came up with 3 new ads and posted them. Within about 20 minutes this girl replies back and the next thing I know I am txting her for like 2 hours.

Anyway, her ride home from work fell through so I picked her up and went to dinner. Explained my somewhat convoluted situation to her and she was fine with all that. Turns out we share a few good things in common and she was very down to earth. I'll know more tomorrow as it is her day off and she said we could meet in the afternoon.

We never discussed the financial aspect as this was a CL post and much more low key than my SD encounters. I have no clue what she is expecting. Hope it doesn't blow up when she hears it's $ a visit. She is 5"2' about 105? Maybe a 8/9/9/? . I have not met anyone I have wanted to see more than twice in the last 6 months.

We are txting again now. It's all good. So far.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy; 1883940]I have never really met anyone off CL and my ads don't do shit. But I keep reading how other peoples do. I will admit that reading smokarz post this morning got me fired up. So today I came up with 3 new ads and posted them. Within about 20 minutes this girl replies back and the next thing I know I am txting her for like 2 hours.

Anyway, her ride home from work fell through so I picked her up and went to dinner. Explained my somewhat convoluted situation to her and she was fine with all that. Turns out we share a few good things in common and she was very down to earth. I'll know more tomorrow as it is her day off and she said we could meet in the afternoon.

We never discussed the financial aspect as this was a CL post and much more low key than my SD encounters. I have no clue what she is expecting. Hope it doesn't blow up when she hears it's $ a visit. She is 5"2' about 105? Maybe a 8/9/9? . I have not met anyone I have wanted to see more than twice in the last 6 months.

We are txting again now. It's all good. So far.[/QUOTE]Very Nice, good find. CL can be hit or miss, but it is great when it hits!

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy; 1883940]I have never really met anyone off CL and my ads don't do shit. But I keep reading how other peoples do. I will admit that reading smokarz post this morning got me fired up. So today I came up with 3 new ads and posted them. Within about 20 minutes this girl replies back and the next thing I know I am txting her for like 2 hours.

Anyway, her ride home from work fell through so I picked her up and went to dinner. Explained my somewhat convoluted situation to her and she was fine with all that. Turns out we share a few good things in common and she was very down to earth. I'll know more tomorrow as it is her day off and she said we could meet in the afternoon.

We never discussed the financial aspect as this was a CL post and much more low key than my SD encounters. I have no clue what she is expecting. Hope it doesn't blow up when she hears it's $ a visit. She is 5"2' about 105? Maybe a 8/9/9? . I have not met anyone I have wanted to see more than twice in the last 6 months.

We are txting again now. It's all good. So far.[/QUOTE]Hell yes! Awesome find. What was the jist of your CL post? I got nothing but disgusting fat chicks and a guy dude from my one attempt.

I am still not sure how anyone read my ad and thought I was looking for a man. Oh well.

Congrats HWG. CL is the bomb when it hits. Most, if not all the CL true civil girls have no idea what or how much to ask for. The ones that give you a number / amount, you should move on.

It is I who always make the initiative, offering to pay their bills or get them gifts, etc.

Keep us posted bud.

He had a large territory with IBM. Says his wife used to pack condoms in his suitcase. He said she would always wait till he was not looking and count them when he got home. Luckily it was easy to replace Trojans on the road. My wife, back when we were dating would go in my bathroom and count them in the box, had a huge sh+atstorm when my 12 year old and a buddy used them to make water balloons to bomb a friend downstairs at the condo.

If she only knew, I did not use the things back then.

[QUOTE=Beachesnole02; 1884492]He had a large territory with IBM. Says his wife used to pack condoms in his suitcase. He said she would always wait till he was not looking and count them when he got home. Luckily it was easy to replace Trojans on the road.

If she only knew, I did not use the things back then.[/QUOTE]This woman will likely stay married since she takes care of her man in absentia. If only all wives would understand the male mentality and work with it.

ATF #4 Is my only indulgence. I found I couldn't give her up so we just do a few hrs once / week. She's cool about using each other for sexual release. I think she uses me more than the other way around, and that is fine by me. I am limiting my exposure as best I can but am still out there. It's harder to put money aside under increased scrutiny so I can't prospect any more. I miss the game so much! The chase and nailing of a new SB just can't be beat. I envy you guys who are multifucking.

Hi Guys,

I started seeing escorts earlier this year and I'm already over that scene. It just doesn't fulfill my needs. No emotional connection. Most young escorts have too many rules. I'm tired of these unappreciative escorts. I've helped out a few of them with barely a thank you.

I noticed this forum on the "Front Page" and it caught my eye. My hat is off to all of you for venturing out into the bowl. It's a fair amount of work to set up with intro letters, finances, emails, pictures, profiles, etc, before the fun even begins, and you have all put forth the effort with some GREAT results. I'm reading through your SD encyclopedia and it is a wealth of knowledge. I'll do my best to learn as much as possible before I start asking questions. I'd hate to be that F. N. G! LOL.

Work has been a bit slow as of late and it's cutting into my discretionary funds. For now I'll set up, learn, and contribute where I can. I'm looking forward to living up to my user name.

Happy Hunting,

HL

My brothers,

I had a second class with my hot, hot yoga teacher yesterday, and I just can't figure out what's going on. Maybe wiser minds than mine can weigh in.

So I get to class and see that Jennifer is the teacher for that time slot. Scottie immediately starts his stretching exercises, and I smile broadly as I approach the sign-in desk. She looks up, sees it's me, and smiles as well, saying "Hey Scott, it's good to see you. I've missed you the past couple of weeks." (I have been going in the afternoons due to work load, so this is the first time I'm back at my normal morning time).

I reply that I've missed her as well, and am glad to see her teaching, since she always inspires me to push myself a little harder. As I'm standing there, she is clearly looking me over, at least I think (hope) she is. I go into the class room, and put my mat directly in front of the teacher's platform, which is not my normal spot, so as to have an unobstructed view of the Fineness That Is Jenny.

Class starts, and she is not wearing the skimpy unitard from last time, but has changed into a cotton bikini top and small, tight cotton "boy shorts", so I now have a clear view of her fantastic, toned, taut body, superfine ass, and that sweet spot just a few inches above the camel toe. Scottie is losing it at this point, and I am thankful that my shirt is not tucked into my shorts.

As class progresses, she gets sweatier and sweatier, until her entire body is glistening, and her clothes are soaked through. Again, I can clearly see that she is shaved, and I am dizzy with excitement, while at the same time I am struggling to get the poses, maintain my balance, and working like a dog.

After class, I chat her up a bit, saying again how glad I am to see her, and she tells me that she was noticing how much I've improved since I started, and how much more defined and muscular my body is (which it is, but when you start with a marshmallow ...) We laugh a bit more, then I head out and that was that.

So my question to you all is this: was she flirting? And if so, what is my next step? I realized as I was heading to work that I have been spoiled somewhat by my time in the Bowl in that I know that the baby I'm talking to at the m&g understands where we are headed, provided all hurdles are mutually cleared. With Yoga Baby, I don't know what is next. Continue to flirt? Is that as far as it will go? Ask her out for coffee? Ask for a private class? Do nothing? Enjoy the frisson and let it go at that? What to do?
On the one hand, my gut says she is flirting, but on the other hand, maybe she just likes to get attention from older guys. The last thing I want to do is come off like a creep. Again, what would your next step be, knowing that I am totally out in the open here in terms of secret identity? The only thing she doesn't know about me is my ATM password.

I await your wisdom, and as a side note am happy to see so many newbies signing in. It is a grand adventure, that is certain, but not for the faint of heart.

Namaste,

Scott

I am suddenly feeling the urge for a Yoga class!

BT

I await your wisdom, and as a side note am happy to see so many newbies signing in. It is a grand adventure, that is certain, but not for the faint of heart.

Namaste,

Scott[/QUOTE]My $.02, fwiw. You've got a totally different animal here.

So. You have two options. Option 1, go the "I'm not married route" and see if you can get away with it. You know better than we whether that has a prayer, but does not sound likely.

Option 2. The mistress audition. The only way this is going to happen is to become friends first, then good friends, then at the appropriate time mention the shortcomings of your current situation and see how she reacts. Do it in a way that she can take the bait and off you go, or not and she doesn't view you as a troll.

My gut is it is only going to work out the way you want (e. G. Sneaking off to bang the shit out of her on a regular basis) if you go option 2, and are totally honest with her. She may be totally cool and into the mistress thing, and off you go. Or she may not and you will know early before you do any damage.

Again. Just my $.02.

[QUOTE=F Scott; 1884691]My brothers,

I had a second class with my hot, hot yoga teacher yesterday, and I just can't figure out what's going on. Maybe wiser minds than mine can weigh in.

So I get to class and see that Jennifer is the teacher for that time slot. Scottie immediately starts his stretching exercises, and I smile broadly as I approach the sign-in desk. She looks up, sees it's me, and smiles as well, saying "Hey Scott, it's good to see you. I've missed you the past couple of weeks." (I have been going in the afternoons due to work load, so this is the first time I'm back at my normal morning time).

I reply that I've missed her as well, and am glad to see her teaching, since she always inspires me to push myself a little harder. As I'm standing there, she is clearly looking me over, at least I think (hope) she is. I go into the class room, and put my mat directly in front of the teacher's platform, which is not my normal spot, so as to have an unobstructed view of the Fineness That Is Jenny.

Class starts, and she is not wearing the skimpy unitard from last time, but has changed into a cotton bikini top and small, tight cotton "boy shorts", so I now have a clear view of her fantastic, toned, taut body, superfine ass, and that sweet spot just a few inches above the camel toe. Scottie is losing it at this point, and I am thankful that my shirt is not tucked into my shorts.

As class progresses, she gets sweatier and sweatier, until her entire body is glistening, and her clothes are soaked through. Again, I can clearly see that she is shaved, and I am dizzy with excitement, while at the same time I am struggling to get the poses, maintain my balance, and working like a dog.

After class, I chat her up a bit, saying again how glad I am to see her, and she tells me that she was noticing how much I've improved since I started, and how much more defined and muscular my body is (which it is, but when you start with a marshmallow.) We laugh a bit more, then I head out and that was that.

So my question to you all is this: was she flirting? And if so, what is my next step? I realized as I was heading to work that I have been spoiled somewhat by my time in the Bowl in that I know that the baby I'm talking to at the m&g understands where we are headed, provided all hurdles are mutually cleared. With Yoga Baby, I don't know what is next. Continue to flirt? Is that as far as it will go? Ask her out for coffee? Ask for a private class? Do nothing? Enjoy the frisson and let it go at that? What to do?

On the one hand, my gut says she is flirting, but on the other hand, maybe she just likes to get attention from older guys. The last thing I want to do is come off like a creep. Again, what would your next step be, knowing that I am totally out in the open here in terms of secret identity? The only thing she doesn't know about me is my ATM password.

I await your wisdom, and as a side note am happy to see so many newbies signing in. It is a grand adventure, that is certain, but not for the faint of heart.

Namaste,

Scott[/QUOTE]First of all way to go brother. Next with women there is either interest or no interest. If she is not interested you will know right away. She will give short yes or no answers or not make eye contact. This cutie on the other hand is actively explaining her schedule to you and chatting after class. This is interest.

The question is what are you going to do with it. My recommendation is to give her a clear test for her to reciprocate. Such as mention a nice coffee shop or smoothie shop around the corner. Or Tell her to give you her number. Do not ask women like to be told what to do. as long as it is done smoothly. Keep it simple nothing fancy at first. Remember she knows that you want to fuck her already she is not stupid. Do not hide your interest. but dont get creepy either. And she most likely is thinking about fucking you.

You just have to pass her hurdles. Be respectful but playful. Don't get too serious. Lead the interaction, make sure that if you are talking to her that you touch her a lot. And make very strong eye contact. Women love this. Also use your body language to communicate with her. Vary your closeness and then back up a little. And tease her not mean just light and fun.

I think you have a real opportunity here. Just stay relaxed but pursue her consistently. Keep it simple at first. And if she asks about if your married tell her the truth. She is probably assuming you are already.

Keep us updated. We are rooting for you.

Revvo

[QUOTE=F Scott;1884691]With Yoga Baby, I don't know what is next. Continue to flirt?[/QUOTE]1. Always look her straight in the eye.

2. Listen to her.

3. Treat her just like a guy.

4. See what happens.

[QUOTE=Revvo; 1884836]First of all way to go brother. Next with women there is either interest or no interest. If she is not interested you will know right away. She will give short yes or no answers or not make eye contact. This cutie on the other hand is actively explaining her schedule to you and chatting after class. This is interest.

The question is what are you going to do with it. My recommendation is to give her a clear test for her to reciprocate. Such as mention a nice coffee shop or smoothie shop around the corner. Or Tell her to give you her number. Do not ask women like to be told what to do. As long as it is done smoothly. Keep it simple nothing fancy at first. Remember she knows that you want to fuck her already she is not stupid. Do not hide your interest. But don't get creepy either. And she most likely is thinking about fucking you.

You just have to pass her hurdles. Be respectful but playful. Don't get too serious. Lead the interaction, make sure that if you are talking to her that you touch her a lot. And make very strong eye contact. Women love this. Also use your body language to communicate with her. Vary your closeness and then back up a little. And tease her not mean just light and fun.

I think you have a real opportunity here. Just stay relaxed but pursue her consistently. Keep it simple at first. And if she asks about if your married tell her the truth. She is probably assuming you are already.

Keep us updated. We are rooting for you.

Revvo[/QUOTE]What Revvo Said. I wish I could tag posts. I think that's excellent advice. I hope to implement it myself soon.

HL

[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1884751]I am suddenly feeling the urge for a Yoga class!

BT[/QUOTE]LOL. You're not the only one.

Brother Scott, make your move. What's the worse that can happen? You're not fucking her now, so if your move didn't work, you're still not fucking her.

But, by any chance that it works, you'll get her POF and fuck her silly doing it yoga style. Hmmm. I wonder what that would looks like.

[QUOTE=Nostra3;1883750]. POT 2: a 19 year old that says she's married to an abusive guy. Says she wants to get enough together to leave her husband. I'm a lot cautious, but she seems intelligent and funny. .[/QUOTE]You're right to be cautious, I would stop seeing her. Her situation is volatile, extremely unpredictable, and potentially dangerous. Way too much drama and risk for me.