Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=LatinHunt;2520198]Here's a good, and funny read. The funny part is when they talk about cheaters.

[URL]https://www.academia.edu/12125214/Decriminalized_Prostitution_in_Rhode_Island_Impunity_for_Violence_and_Exploitation[/URL][/QUOTE]There may be some sound data in that report, but one of the very first conclusions she bases her whole arguyment on is completely bogus and makes a rookie mistake of confusing a correlation with a cause.

She cites the growth in online reviews of providers in RI over a 10+ year span as evidence that prostitution in RI increased greatly during those years. Go back and look at the years. They are the years (starting in 1995) when the public at large started getting on the internet in a big way (1995+).

Of course there aren't going to be as many online reviews when there weren't as many people online to post reviews. I would bet you $1000 there's a similar increase in the rate of restaurant reviews in RI over the same span of yuears, does that mean people went out to eat (or ate that much more) during those same years?

She may think she has noble goals but if this report is any indication Hughes is a bullshit academic.

[QUOTE=LatinHunt;2518668]Sorry, but I've never liked that "lower rates of sex crimes against women" argument. That implies that instead of raping somebody a rapist will just go to a spa. Maybe true, but I don't want to hear it, and it's not a good point to argue IMO. A person who is against spa's isn't going to say, "oh, that's a good outlet for the rapists", "we'll let the spa's stay open".[/QUOTE]Good point.

Given the current climate I think it's time for a weekend in Flushing. Anyone have any intel on AMPs, hotels, restaurants, etc?

[QUOTE=SrDiablito;2522603]Given the current climate I think it's time for a weekend in Flushing. Anyone have any intel on AMPs, hotels, restaurants, etc?[/QUOTE]Queens.

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Chinatown.

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Providence, before the mess was better.

[QUOTE=SrDiablito;2522603]Given the current climate I think it's time for a weekend in Flushing. Anyone have any intel on AMPs, hotels, restaurants, etc?[/QUOTE]I've thought about a road trip to Flushing, then I was thinking, the girls all go there for their bacation also where they live not for more work. I've checked BP a while ago to see about spas there and I wasn't impressed. Maybe if I dug a little deeper I could come up with more information to convince me otherwise.

I'm sure we could put together a few guys for the trip.

[QUOTE=SrDiablito;2522603]Given the current climate I think it's time for a weekend in Flushing. Anyone have any intel on AMPs, hotels, restaurants, etc?[/QUOTE]If you like Chinese food, the absolute best place is The Red Bowl Noodle Shop, 50-52 Main Street in Flushing. 5 stars in everything they serve. Always busy it seems, but top-notch food with a ginormous menu, and generous portions, all moderately priced.

Get out of Flushing for a motel. Try the Crown Motor Inn, 7401 Queens Blvd in Elmhurst. Parking right at the Inn. Decent rates, and you can rent for 4 hours minimum if you want. Run by friendly Latino people; place is clean; and you can get a room with a HUGE Jacuzzi, which you and your lady friend will enjoy, and will set the mood!

I can't offer an AMP however, but there's plenty nearby. I suggest the forums for locations.

[QUOTE=Ambrose;2520455]No, their clothes are covering them from their necks to their feet. Like the new ordinance states, looks like they are going by the rules.[/QUOTE]Thanks; that's what I thought.

[QUOTE=TsLover42;2520554]As you know, I prefer AMP's and am only reporting from PM's. But at both Enso and Opulence isn't it what they're wearing or not wearing at the end that counts. IMHO? I really doubt that I will ever go to Opulence but any reports here would be welcomed, I'm sure.

And I really loved those shorts that Yoko and Cece wore.[/QUOTE]I do prefer the skimpy outfits. I guess the law is the law, at least in some establishments. The lady I saw at Pleasant Street was dressed in a skimpy negligee thing.

[QUOTE=iamioman;2522284]
She cites the growth in online reviews of providers in RI over a 10+ year span as evidence that prostitution in RI increased greatly during those years. Go back and look at the years. They are the years (starting in 1995) when the public at large started getting on the internet in a big way (1995+).

Of course there aren't going to be as many online reviews when there weren't as many people online to post reviews. I would bet you $1000 there's a similar increase in the rate of restaurant reviews in RI over the same span of yuears, does that mean people went out to eat (or ate that much more) during those same years?

She may think she has noble goals but if this report is any indication Hughes is a bullshit academic.[/QUOTE]Exactly right. To make her point, all she would have to do is compare growth in online reviews in RI to online reviews in another state that didn't have a legal loophole. The fact that she didn't means that either she doesn't understand statistics or that the data doesn't support her point so she leaves it out. Either way, shoddy scholarship. But we already knew that she's a crusader more than an academic. Her conclusions were decided before the data was gathered.

Statistics are often used to "prove" cause and effect. The technique is called regression and the result is correlation. The user then makes the case that there is cause and effect, which many times is not at all the actual relationship. These two "academics" are a very good example of this approach. There may be a correlation between reviews on the internet and prostitution but the conclusion that one has driven the activity of the other is bogus.

My personal situation has changed placing me further from rt 95 from MA to Ri.

Looks like Pawtucket is at its last stand.

Been to FE, P.S. Prior to all the dramatic changes in RI.

I really enjoyed the TS / bodywork received at the RI AMPs. Knew the FS from HE type places. There was variety and choices.

As a masshole all I can sense is it still worth the effort to go to RI? If I go seems like I have to park my car quite a bits way?

The level of service I would be happy w / o FS but how much longer will it be worth it for anyone?

[QUOTE=Member#4063;2523362]Statistics are often used to "prove" cause and effect. The technique is called regression and the result is correlation. The user then makes the case that there is cause and effect, which many times is not at all the actual relationship. These two "academics" are a very good example of this approach. There may be a correlation between reviews on the internet and prostitution but the conclusion that one has driven the activity of the other is bogus.[/QUOTE]These 'researchers' have done what a lot of so called academics do: find all the research you can that supports your position and ignore the rest. I studied statistics in college and I remember a professor who said that you can find data to support any position you want.

The biggest flaw in their argument is that there is an assumption that if you make something illegal it will go away. Never worked with alcohol. Pot or prostitution. If people want something all you can do is tax it and regulate it.

These 'researchers' have done what a lot of so called academics do: find all the research you can that supports your position and ignore the rest. I studied statistics in college and I remember a professor who said that you can find data to support any position you want.

The biggest flaw in their argument is that there is an assumption that if you make something illegal it will go away. Never worked with alcohol. Pot or prostitution. If people want something all you can do is tax it and regulate it.

Very well said agree with your thinking here.

[QUOTE=SrDiablito;2524713]These 'researchers' have done what a lot of so called academics do: find all the research you can that supports your position and ignore the rest. I studied statistics in college and I remember a professor who said that you can find data to support any position you want.

The biggest flaw in their argument is that there is an assumption that if you make something illegal it will go away. Never worked with alcohol. Pot or prostitution. If people want something all you can do is tax it and regulate it.[/QUOTE]The gov't can only ATTEMPT to tax and regulate.

How is this place now a days?

I am thinking about going.

Also where should you park your car?

Any kind of info would be great!!

[QUOTE=AmpExplorer;2524457]My personal situation has changed placing me further from rt 95 from MA to Ri.

Looks like Pawtucket is at its last stand.

Been to FE, P.S. Prior to all the dramatic changes in RI.

I really enjoyed the TS / bodywork received at the RI AMPs. Knew the FS from HE type places. There was variety and choices.

As a masshole all I can sense is it still worth the effort to go to RI? If I go seems like I have to park my car quite a bits way?

The level of service I would be happy w / o FS but how much longer will it be worth it for anyone?[/QUOTE]I would also like to know if HS is still any pretty good.

[QUOTE=JoySung96;2526698]How is this place now a days?

I am thinking about going.

Also where should you park your car?

Any kind of info would be great!![/QUOTE]Place is good, park your car in the parking lot or if you are worried about someone seeing your car park on the street and walk.

Anyone out there keep in touch with Sunny from Admiral? I know a few did a few years back during hiatus. I am down in Flushing area now and then and would love to know if she might be working there. If yes I could provide my contact info for you to pass on. Thought I'd give it a try, she is special saw her many times and believe she'd see me again. Pm me please

Thanks.

Like most guys, I've thought about being with 2 girls at once but haven't pulled it off. Rather than talk my GF into something that will complicate our lives, I thought I'd turn to the trained professionals in the AMPs.

Have any of you guys done this and have any tips to share?

I'm assuming that 2 girls /1 hour will just be double the regular house and tip, with maybe the girls wanting a little extra tip for doing something out of the ordinary. I won't want much of a massage: let's face it, it's not the 4 hands that's exciting, it's the 4 boobs and the 2. You get the picture. I recall an older post where someone said that it was more like 2 consecutive FS sessions, and not like a movie where they are trading off. Is that generally the case? Will they complain about 2 pops?

If anyone has any recommendations on how to make the most of this, or any good stories, please share.

I did it a couple of times, the idea is great and the deed is fun but not anything like the movies. Every time you change girls they change the cover. The stops in action kinda kill the mood. I paid $320. For me I would take 2 single sessions. Hope this helps. W.

I've done 4 hands on a few occasions. The best was when the two ladies were both in their twenties, both slender, both true coed types. Each of them was wearing a sexy outfit. Leotard, nighty, thigh-highs, high heels. Yeah.

It was hot. They worked on me simultaneously, and worked on my member simultaneously, and they let me pop twice in the course of the hour. The damage was a lot less than what an AMP might try for. IMHO, if the AMP is.

Not busy, then you shouldn't have to pay double the house fee. And if the AMP isn't busy, then one of the ladies working on your would have received zero in tips if not for you, so I think a discount is in order.

I've been AMPs in Massachusetts where I've had a 4-hand session for an extra 50, period. That was for a half-hour appointment.

IMHO, it's not worth it to shell out 320 for 2 MP workers to attend to you. Just my 2 cents.

Adobe.

[QUOTE=JoySung96;2526698]How is this place now a days?

I am thinking about going.

Also where should you park your car?

Any kind of info would be great!![/QUOTE]When you go let us know. There has been plenty of talk about it here. An update is always useful.

[QUOTE=TommyAnonymus;2528378] If anyone has any recommendations on how to make the most of this [/QUOTE]When everything goes good it's great, but in my experience it's not so good as two single sessions more often than not. My best times doing this was to let Mamasan know what I was looking for, get her recommendation, then let my provider pick the other girl. Two girls that have never worked together before and / or don't know each other well are often a bust.

Are there any HE places around anymore? I frequented Admiral, NMS and Main. Now there's nothing that I know of. Can someone refer me anywhere?

As a rule, I don't usually try for this, but the idea always did intrigue me. I have had two or three of them at HE only places, but only got one pop and one of the girls did the HE while the other one helped some, did get to nurse on both on an alternating basis. Only one house fee and gave the usual tip to both. I would rather do 2 back to back sessions with each one, especially if they try to double the house fee too.

Tina at Ivy wellness in Danvers would always try to get you to add on a girl if they were not busy, no extra house fee but wanted a tip for both. But the second one would only stay for a short time not for the ending. Just not worth it in my opinion.

[QUOTE=SMS54;2529547]As a rule, I don't usually try for this, but the idea always did intrigue me. I have had two or three of them at HE only places, but only got one pop and one of the girls did the HE while the other one helped some, did get to nurse on both on an alternating basis. Only one house fee and gave the usual tip to both. I would rather do 2 back to back sessions with each one, especially if they try to double the house fee too.

Tina at Ivy wellness in Danvers would always try to get you to add on a girl if they were not busy, no extra house fee but wanted a tip for both. But the second one would only stay for a short time not for the ending. Just not worth it in my opinion.[/QUOTE]The rules need to be set up ahead of time. If you want 2 pops, whether each girl will work on you separately or both together, what each will get for a tip, one house charge or two. Everything needs to be discussed, or you could be disappointed. I've done it a few times and it can be fun, but I would only do it once in a while.

[QUOTE=GottaGo;2529341]Are there any HE places around anymore? [/QUOTE]Maybe Little Genie in Cranston is what you're looking for.

[QUOTE=Bostsouth;2527622]Anyone out there keep in touch with Sunny from Admiral? I know a few did a few years back during hiatus. I am down in Flushing area now and then and would love to know if she might be working there. If yes I could provide my contact info for you to pass on. Thought I'd give it a try, she is special saw her many times and believe she'd see me again. Pm me please

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Unless things have changed, Sunny told me a few months before the closings, that she lived in NJ; not Flushing. It seems she has a sister in NJ that has a nail salon.

Not to say that's where she ended up, but one never knows.

If you find her, dozens of guys here will want to know about it!

Opulence seems very confusing. Some report excellent "service" while others seem to have nothing good to say. What is the true feeling about it? I am thinking of visiting but don't want to waste my time or money. The providers look great! Please comment here or PM me. Thanks.

I hit Pleasant Street again last weekend. I had gone there 2 weeks earlier and had a very good time with Candi or Candy. This time, it was very different. The girl was about as attractive and dressed in a skimpy outfit. Similarities end there. Paid for an hour. 30 minutes, no flip, all done. Small tip and out the door I went. She wouldn't tell me her name. I won't be back until I hear things have changed.

[QUOTE=TsLover42;2530293]Opulence seems very confusing. Some report excellent "service" while others seem to have nothing good to say. What is the true feeling about it? I am thinking of visiting but don't want to waste my time or money. The providers look great! Please comment here or PM me. Thanks.[/QUOTE]I think its a gamble. I'm one who has had success every time I go there and on each first visit with the girl. However I know people who can't get anything there. I think t depends onhow the girl likes you and rapport with her If you have $45 to blow you can test ride the half hour and see what happens but be prepared you may get nothing but massage

[QUOTE=ChoirBoy;2530542]I hit Pleasant Street again last weekend. I had gone there 2 weeks earlier and had a very good time with Candi or Candy. This time, it was very different. The girl was about as attractive and dressed in a skimpy outfit. Similarities end there. Paid for an hour. 30 minutes, no flip, all done. Small tip and out the door I went. She wouldn't tell me her name. I won't be back until I hear things have changed.[/QUOTE]Can you explain to me why you would tip a provider that doesn't even give you the time you paid for and shuts you down in the end. Perhaps I didn't understand you post but I am under the impression that you didn't even get a HE. I've been wondering about pleasant street since it's NEVER reviewed here. I figured it may be a secret fishing hole of sorts but now I'm not sure.

[QUOTE=Diabetes;2530641]I think its a gamble. I'm one who has had success every time I go there and on each first visit with the girl. However I know people who can't get anything there. I think t depends onhow the girl likes you and rapport with her If you have $45 to blow you can test ride the half hour and see what happens but be prepared you may get nothing but massage[/QUOTE]Just checked out the opulance BP ad. Holy shit, if Shannon and Andrea are FS I'm there. I doubt it though.

[QUOTE=ChoirBoy;2530542]I hit Pleasant Street again last weekend. I had gone there 2 weeks earlier and had a very good time with Candi or Candy. This time, it was very different. The girl was about as attractive and dressed in a skimpy outfit. Similarities end there. Paid for an hour. 30 minutes, no flip, all done. Small tip and out the door I went. She wouldn't tell me her name. I won't be back until I hear things have changed.[/QUOTE]Could be they are not taking any chances of being closed down like most of the others have been.

[QUOTE=GottaGo;2529341]Are there any HE places around anymore? I frequented Admiral, NMS and Main. Now there's nothing that I know of. Can someone refer me anywhere?[/QUOTE]Some of the girl's at FS places have been very receptive to nude HJ. Tip is 80 to 100 but you get free roaming and everything that is full service in including some ball licking from some the girls, but no penetration. I have actually found it a step up from the HJ places of the past, but it cost a little more so I go less often. Never got a pouty face out of one like I did Yoko at MS who was mostly clothed and the same money.

[QUOTE=ReiHaragoma;2529813]Unless things have changed, Sunny told me a few months before the closings, that she lived in NJ; not Flushing. It seems she has a sister in NJ that has a nail salon.

Not to say that's where she ended up, but one never knows.

If you find her, dozens of guys here will want to know about it![/QUOTE]This has nothing to do with "human trafficking ".

I am now convinced my lost socks from the dryer end up in the same place.

Unless you actually made a real genuine connection with the lady you will have an almost impossible task to find.

Part of this hobby is knowing there will be a day you all time favorite will be gone.

It seems it is getting very difficult to replace your fav' as the climate quickly changes around here.

[QUOTE=HappyDave;2532150] Never got a pouty face out of one like I did Yoko at MS who was mostly clothed and the same money.[/QUOTE]Your mileage may have varied with yoko compared with others. I'm convinced she was banging a few dudes. My second visit with her I only had a $40 tip but was able to ger her fully nude and get in between her legs. I put the tip of my uncovered cock right up to the entrance of her pussy and she didn't say a thing. If I had a condom I would have went for it, but I didn't, so I didn't try. Oh ya, like I said I only had a $40 tip, and I told her that so she knew it, but she took care of me big time. Besides the nudity and rolling around with me she also gave me two handjobs and two massages. Best deal ever. Now keep in mind I tipped huge the first visit so factor that in, but as it turns out, investing in Yoko on my first visit was a really good move on my part.

[QUOTE=LatinHunt;2532264]Your mileage may have varied with yoko compared with others. I'm convinced she was banging a few dudes. My second visit with her I only had a $40 tip but was able to ger her fully nude and get in between her legs. I put the tip of my uncovered cock right up to the entrance of her pussy and she didn't say a thing. If I had a condom I would have went for it, but I didn't, so I didn't try. Oh ya, like I said I only had a $40 tip, and I told her that so she knew it, but she took care of me big time. Besides the nudity and rolling around with me she also gave me two handjobs and two massages. Best deal ever. Now keep in mind I tipped huge the first visit so factor that in, but as it turns out, investing in Yoko on my first visit was a really good move on my part.[/QUOTE]Understood but when I tipped eighty for the topless roll around with her got the pouty face, though it was her first week or so there, she may have adjusted the rates. Moma follow all she on the mark with candy. Just saying I got what you described and a little more from a FS gal at the same price and no haggling, and she was just as hot and I think younger.

[QUOTE=LatinHunt;2530682]Can you explain to me why you would tip a provider that doesn't even give you the time you paid for and shuts you down in the end. Perhaps I didn't understand you post but I am under the impression that you didn't even get a HE. I've been wondering about pleasant street since it's NEVER reviewed here. I figured it may be a secret fishing hole of sorts but now I'm not sure.
Just checked out the opulance BP ad. Holy shit, if Shannon and Andrea are FS I'm there. I doubt it though.

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I got a half hour of a fairly good massage; that's it. About half way through, Mama and my girl had a conversation in ( I'm guessing ) Korean through the door. I figured at the time that was a bad sign. I was right.

Reports vary widely as to what can and cannot be had at this spa.

[QUOTE=ChoirBoy;2532411]I got a half hour of a fairly good massage; that's it. About half way through, Mama and my girl had a conversation in ( I'm guessing ) Korean through the door. I figured at the time that was a bad sign. I was right.

Reports vary widely as to what can and cannot be had at this spa.[/QUOTE]Were you recognized from your last visit. I find once one of the girls or the Moma recognizes me things go real smooth. I found my last couple times a FE that Moma knew me and gave the ok. It did seem they were nervous about something on entry of a couple mongers. Pleasant was originally an over priced HJ place, it was the first RI AMP I went to. It went UTR FS during the first providence crackdown. If you knew to ask for full you got it. I always found there were some consistent gems now and then but also very hit or miss. About a month ago when I found main shut down I went right over to pleasant and found them shut down but two cars out front. So guessing they got spooked and shut right down or went dark for call appointments only.

Yoko was the perfect example of one who, when treated with respect and being a gentleman, gave back just what she was given. I was fortunate enough to be one of those who she was very "close" to, and I do miss her very much. She told me that I was her "best customer" - with about ten or fifteen others. PM's with others gave me similar details, and she was special. I was seeing her twice a week and did get the "pouty face" once when I told her I had to skip a second session one week. And boy could she give the POUT!!

[QUOTE=HappyDave;2532420]Were you recognized from your last visit. I find once one of the girls or the Moma recognizes me things go real smooth. I found my last couple times a FE that Moma knew me and gave the ok. It did seem they were nervous about something on entry of a couple mongers. Pleasant was originally an over priced HJ place, it was the first RI AMP I went to. It went UTR FS during the first providence crackdown. If you knew to ask for full you got it. I always found there were some consistent gems now and then but also very hit or miss. About a month ago when I found main shut down I went right over to pleasant and found them shut down but two cars out front. So guessing they got spooked and shut right down or went dark for call appointments only.[/QUOTE]My first visit, I only saw the mama and Candy. One thing I thought was unusual at the time was that Mama did not collect the house fee. Candy came in and collected it. Great time.

Second visit; I only saw mama and Miss No-name. Mama took me to the room and collected the fee. No-name came and asked for the house fee. When I told her I already paid, she left the room for a few minutes; I guess to verify I paid. Another thing was that no-name was very suspicious. I asked her how long she had worked there and she wanted to know why I asked.

So I guess you can see where I'm going here. I can't swear on a stack of Bibles that the 2 mamas were the same. It's not a "they all look alike" thing; it's just that I only saw the mamas very briefly. Service was very different for the 2 visits.