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[QUOTE=Ghost323;7204687]320 hr for BBFS, msog?? I been out the K Agency for over 10 years but dang that's a deal, this real? Or times are tough prices going down?[/QUOTE]Ada seems to be exactly what I look for. Shorter, natural and very in BBBJ. Based on the reviews I've seen, I reached out to book with her today, only to be told at the very end of the booking, that she was $320 for an HR and BBFS, although MSOG was an additional $50. When I pointed out that the website shows $320 with BBFS and MSOG Free, they updated it while I was talking to them.

I could chalk it up to it being a mistake, but I think one or two of you said that they got to experience her with MSOG for $320 all in. Maybe it's the additional $50, or just the principle, but I cancelled my appointment. The $320 for MSOG is what got me. It's up there, but is an appealing price for a really great hour. The extra $50 has me thinking 'Do I really need to spend my money on this'. Obviously the answer may be yes, but it still may take me out of booking this so I can find another $320 provider.

Who do you suggest. Shorter, cute Asian with naturals who is enthusiastic the entire time and won't just be a one-and-done) with GFE?

LA is better than Vegas for mongering. Both in terms of pricing and in terms of the number of options. Also, if you're looking for a duo, you can get those in LA for 700 or 800, whereas in Vegas, the one agency that offers them tends to charge 900 or 1,000+.

The majority of the girls in LA are in the Koreatown and mid-Wilshire areas, with some in downtown LA and some far west in the Marina del Rey / Playa Vista area.

[QUOTE=DcFan222;7205255]Planning a hobby trip and wondering which is best for Asian girls LA or Vegas. I have been to Vegas and it was great but seems like price is cheaper in or around LA. Which do you recommend? Also for LA what area to stay in for something safe and close to action? Never been to LA so don't know area, will probably uber everywhere. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Website currently lists MSOG as a $50 upcharge.

[URL]https://www.rokm.ch/product-page/ada[/URL]

[QUOTE=HiKeke;7205128]Weird because M is the only one who lists free msog for Ada. All other bookers have msig at additional 50. So confirm with M for accuracy when booking.

Anyways reports have her age late 30's so pics are most likely heavily P.S.'d.[/QUOTE]

LA is much better. Most of the action is near Mid Wilshire or K-town. I'd try to stay near those areas.

[QUOTE=DcFan222;7205255]Planning a hobby trip and wondering which is best for Asian girls LA or Vegas. I have been to Vegas and it was great but seems like price is cheaper in or around LA. Which do you recommend? Also for LA what area to stay in for something safe and close to action? Never been to LA so don't know area, will probably uber everywhere. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MountainLover;7205284]Ada seems to be exactly what I look for. Shorter, natural and very in BBBJ. Based on the reviews I've seen, I reached out to book with her today, only to be told at the very end of the booking, that she was $320 for an HR and BBFS, although MSOG was an additional $50. When I pointed out that the website shows $320 with BBFS and MSOG Free, they updated it while I was talking to them.

I could chalk it up to it being a mistake, but I think one or two of you said that they got to experience her with MSOG for $320 all in. Maybe it's the additional $50, or just the principle, but I cancelled my appointment. The $320 for MSOG is what got me. It's up there, but is an appealing price for a really great hour. The extra $50 has me thinking 'Do I really need to spend my money on this'. Obviously the answer may be yes, but it still may take me out of booking this so I can find another $320 provider.[/QUOTE]Yes I kind of figured it was a typo because Get9 listed msog 50. But just in case this was an actual new special, didn't want to post conflicting info. Just to emphasize, Ada's strong point is BBBJ. Some guys skipped BBBJ or didn't care about it and so they probably should research accordingly. 320 is a good rate in any case. Note that while Ada's ad is based on her, she is full bodied as I mentioned. She makes my cut because she's 30s with good service. Just want to be upfront so guys pick a girl on her strong points.
[URL]https://get9irl.com/Ada[/URL]

[QUOTE=JackHolly;7205316]Website currently lists MSOG as a $50 upcharge.[/QUOTE]

Good on them for fixing it fast. When two different websites list different rates, generally one of them is wrong but you don't know which. However, very occasionally you get "whichever rate" is advertised. But that's not the girl's mistake so I just give her what she thinks is the rate, not going to give her a hard time over another person's typo. But that's me.

One girl on XOXO was listed as 1115 pounds for a day. Now that's bang for your buck.

[QUOTE=DownloadX;7205352]Yes I kind of figured it was a typo because Get9 listed msog 50. But just in case this was an actual new special, didn't want to post conflicting info. Just to emphasize, Ada's strong point is BBBJ. Some guys skipped BBBJ or didn't care about it and so they probably should research accordingly. 320 is a good rate in any case.[/QUOTE]$320 is a good rate and I would take a good BBBJ or FS any day of the week (as long as I get to play. FIV, DATY, etc.). I don't think I have ever had two pops within an hour, although I always ask for MSOG so the fun does not end. Even if I pop, I still want to please, or have my provider continue to please me even if a 2nd pop does not happen. I think of it as getting the most out of my time and the money I've paid. One or two reviews said that her BBBJ is so good that they had a 2nd pop.

It was pointed out to me that on the site there are providers for $350 all in, but for the extra $20, (knowing she is natural and is into BBBJ), I will probably step up. That said, I usually go to an AMP that for. 7 to the house and 1. 5 for the service, I get everything I want. That's what I am balancing - $220 vs $370. I can go to this very clean, quiet AMP (Thousand Oaks / Agoura Hills area), and have a great time for $150 less. I enjoy the apartment visits, although I can nearly go twice to the AMP or once to the apartment. I visit LA once a month and stay a few days, so I can often get two visits in if I budget myself.

[QUOTE=Bbaka10;7204662]Back when I was more naive about this hobby, I gave some PII to some bookers to get verified.

Anyone have any recommendations on how I can protect myself after the fact? Is there anything I can do now or have I assumed all of the risk already?

Would ceasing to use the bookers that I gave PII to be helpful?[/QUOTE]Yes, you can fix it. It takes time and patience, plus some cash, but you can fix it. Basically, you would just have to start all over again. Pretend like you are totally new to the game. Then, the way I would do it is, go to Target and buy a cheap Tracfone with cash. Also buy a Tracfone card, with cash. Set it up anonymously, meaning do not use your existing phone. (Your Tracfone and your real phone should never have contact.) When Tracfone asks for your personal information, enter fake info. They don't check, and they don't care. Then start contacting bookers and go through the screening process without giving up any of your PII. There are various ways to do that, as Download X has explained here numerous times. Check out his guide.

Going through HX sounds like it would work just fine. I took a different route. Many years ago, I got through the door by visiting several newbe-friendly independent Korean providers who didn't require PII for screening. After several unsuccessful attempts, I finally found one who was loosely connected to the LA k-girl scene. After banging her a few times (and tipping her generously), she agreed to vouch for me with one of the top Korean bookers. The rest was easy. One solid reference led to another and, pretty soon, I was accepted by all of the LA and OC bookers using references only. That's a much safer way to go (for everyone). And it's more reliable, since it is more difficult to fake your way in the door. Using PII is not safe, because any cop can obtain a fake ID and fake work documents. But you can only gain a trustworthy k-girl reference by actually engaging in pay-for-play activities with a trusted k-girl. That's why, in my view, references are a FAR superior method of screening for everyone involved. Customers and bookers.

As for your old information, that will still be on file with the bookers you used previously. Not much you can do about that. But it will become less and less of a risk as time passes. After a few years, it will simply look like you were a customer a long time ago, but you gave up the hobby as you got older. Which is a very common thing.

Also, if you don't like using a Tracfone (my preferred method), there are apps now that will allow you to create and use new phone numbers on your existing smart phone. They employ solid encryption and they are fairly safe to use from a privacy perspective. The best one is an app called MySudo. I have it on my phone, but I don't use it for k-girl purposes. It works nicely on the dating scene, for girls you may want to ghost later on.

[URL]https://anonyome.com/individuals/mysudo/[/URL]

[QUOTE=DcFan222;7205255]Planning a hobby trip and wondering which is best for Asian girls LA or Vegas. I have been to Vegas and it was great but seems like price is cheaper in or around LA. Which do you recommend? Also for LA what area to stay in for something safe and close to action? Never been to LA so don't know area, will probably uber everywhere. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Yeah, as others have already noted, LA is the center of the k-girl universe. There is no better place to go, outside of Korea itself. As far as where to stay, I recommend The Line hotel at Wilshire & Normandie. It's in the heart of Koreatown and you'll be able to walk to eight or nine different apartment complexes with hot little k-girls just waiting to please you. (That's assuming you can pass screening with one of the Korean bookers.) It's a cool hotel with a nice bar scene, a decent restaurant, and you'll likely see a few gorgeous Korean women just walking around the place. Good scenery to get you in the mood for your appointment. I've used The Line numerous times to meet up with independent providers. No one bats an eyelash. It's that kinda place.

[QUOTE=AsianBaller1;7204932]Just turn to prayer. It's likely your info was passed on to another agent and might even be stored in a central database now.[/QUOTE]

I was just saying earlier today, each agency handles this different. SSG for example is re-screening everyone:

[QUOTE=Download X;7205117]So I'll say on the other hand people have been using korgs for decades, korgs are clearly in the business of booking girls repeatedly. The purpose is for screening. In the LA thread there was a korg that has to re-screen everyone because they lost their contacts list. "If only" they had saved off all their screening data, but they are going through the trouble of re-screening including delays. This is just one example, but that agency did not consider it worth the risk to even save that off. I'd bet other agencies do though. The point is the main purpose is for screening.

It does vary a lot between agencies. I mentioned a few months back that once you get into one agency, it becomes a bit easier for the next. Sometimes you can use one reference to screen for the other. Once you've done this for years you'll probably have an ATF on kkt or something, and if she switches towns or agencies she can vouch for your number. After all, she will be the one taking your appointment so that is the gold standard for screening if she is vouching for you like that.

It's not for everyone, it's one reason some people prefer AMPs. There are pros and cons. Kgirls tend to have better service on average imo.[/QUOTE]

I want to point out a scenario a year ago when a friend visited an independent HX girl. He remarked that the pimp / booker must have been listening in based on vague comments after the appointment. I think it was a coincidence, but he was wondering if the pimp was recording. I pointed out that if I were a pimp, maybe I would actually listen in or even have a live audio feed for safety. But to actually record clear evidence of my own crimes would be wildly self-destructive. Just to be clear, in the HX example what the pimp is doing is a felony while what the customer and girl are doing are misdemeanors. I hate to spell it out this clear but it bears pointing out the true incentives are reversed.

For that reason if I were an agency, I wouldn't keep screening data myself. My goal would be to book girls on repeat, sit back and relax, not collect data against myself. But certainly, another agency might act differently and store it in a vault as backup. Best to assume some do, even if others clearly don't. So that uncertainty itself is the source of worry of course. Agencies will play on this to keep people on good behavior, it's kind of a necessary thing. You are not in danger, but it's the implication:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgUvwcU6P7I&t=3s[/URL] Implication

People tend to focus on that a bit too much imo, because there are simply a lot more likely things to worry about.

[QUOTE=Taliesin92;7205411] It takes time and patience, plus some cash, but you can fix it. Basically, you would just have to start all over again. Pretend like you are totally new to the game. Then, the way I would do it is, go to Target and buy a cheap Tracfone with cash. Also buy a Tracfone card, with cash. Set it up anonymously, meaning do not use your existing phone. (Your Tracfone and your real phone should never have contact.) When Tracfone asks for your personal information, enter fake info.[/QUOTE]

As Talies says a kgirl reference is a great way, she is the one taking your appointment so her vouching for you is a rock solid reference. Obviously, she will only do this if you are a solid customer. I know most girls would not have done this for me, but some girls I saw on repeat did. Another route is to use HX as your reference. Many of us have done both, each person has to decide their level of comfort. Some advice I gave before:

[I]Some people worry about it in the back of their mind. Agencies exist to book girls on repeat, that much is true. I've known friends to send info for screening long ago and while nothing happened you wonder.

I don't know about each agency but some will take PD, PII, and other platforms. Another option is if you have seen an ATF already at another agency and have her contact you can book her at the new agency. She's the one opening the door for you so her word there should be good enough, I've done it myself. I would always say to use kkt, Line, wechat rather than phone for keeping in touch like that.[/I]

Tried booking with M and was a no go. Don't have references otherwise would've been green light. Maybe it was for the better. I think once I start the k scene again I might not try anything else LOL.

[QUOTE=DownloadX;7204750]Msog included is new. Ada's specialty is bbbj, she does it well with good varied technique, she can do it a long time, she seems to quite enjoy it. To keep expectations realistic, 8 out of 10 reviews were impressed by Ada's bbbj but a few others weren't. We probably have a different idea of what we like. I'm of the opinion that she's one of the best at bbbj, summa cum laude. That is her main draw so if bbbj is not your thing you need to research what you want.

[B]Ada[/B] - 30s, full body, good attitude, good service, fantastic bbbj. Friendly and easy to vibe with.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31932-Asian-Providers&p=7028777&viewfull=1#post7028777[/URL] Ada
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31932-Asian-Providers&p=6989761&viewfull=1#post6989761[/URL] Ada
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31932-Asian-Providers&p=6990489&viewfull=1#post6990489[/URL] Ada
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?30696-Asian-PLEASER-Reviews-only&p=7088520&viewfull=1#post7088520[/URL] Ada
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31932-Asian-Providers&p=6782745&viewfull=1#post6782745[/URL] Ada

As for 320hr for bbfs, welcome to OC and SD prices. SD has had 320 bbfs for 2 years straight on the lower end. Competing korgs started dropping bb prices, so today it's the norm. It ranges from 320-350 for 75% of girls. I don't know why LA is so expensive now, 2nd week of January half the girls raised prices 10-30. All in one day. I know many guys are on a tight budget, so here was my Jan 14 OC 'budget friendly' guide highlighting OC and SD prices:

I'll also note that "half upcharge" girls are becoming much more common in every city.

SD bb prices have actually been dropping. 3 years ago no agency even offered bb special at all, then 2 years ago a new agency did, then last year then 2 agencies did, and this year one OG korg dropped their prices to price match. So 3 out of 4 agencies now offer 320-350 bb. Note that the price drops are due to price matching.

Ada has always been 320, same as Jenny. Jenny is cheaper and better than most kgirls, the reason she offers a cheaper rate is she has a very long tour like Ada. Even guys who are normally one-and-done see the value and might make an exception to repeat Jenny as a result. It is good business and more money in the long-run. Jenny would make a lot less money if she charged more. Higher rates only make sense for short tours / limited slots. Or girls who are new / don't want a lot of appointments. That part makes sense, if we want a variety of girls there has to be a variety of pricing. We vote with our wallets.

[B]Sophia[/B] and [B]Allie[/B] are still 320 right now. Sophia a MILF service queen, Allie a top tier HYA. The 320 girls don't raise their prices, it's just new girls coming in at 340. Ever since last November, most bb special girls have started 340. So every OG girl from before last November is "still" 320.



Since this is in the past, I will just point out that a lot of people do this. Among many friends that have done it, nothing has happened. People worry, but the kind of things they worry about aren't solved by changing bookers. I do recommend HX for those starting out since it takes longer but helps. But each person has to decide what is right for them.[/QUOTE]Is Ada BJ still good for bigger size? For reference I'm 7. 1 in length and 6. 5 in in girth. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Bartolo2003;7173697]Has anyone tried Japanese nana. Candy girl has her a bb special, so she might not be fully Japanese. Also her photos looks really similar to the famous Mari / Namiko.[/QUOTE]Last P.S.'s photo of her sitting at edge of chair w skirt resembles her. IRL looks a bit homely or traditional Asian look as what some one on TER described Ms. Candy of FA at OC for those that saw Candy.

I'm guessing 30's. Not much surgery, but hard to tell in both very dark bath and bedrooms esp if the slight pouch is post partum. Pleaser so got the job done w HJ when I couldn't finish in slot.

Final note, I just wouldn't try these very colorful filters photos which can be seen for online ads for shops in Japan, esp if the girls selling point is massive busts.

We are losing our anonymity. Bookers and bosses can still stay anonymous to us but I think they are putting effort into finding out who we are. Just cause you don't give selfie or I'd doesn't mean you are completely anonymous. Keep your eyes open for Ring cam and such at the incall. LEO can access Ring cam easily. Jan 6 shows that we can be found with just a face pic. When you visit a lot of different places then you will not feel anonymous anymore.

[QUOTE=Taliesin92;7204482]Nope, they have not fixed the call box, and that is a little bit annoying. And, no, as I've said dozens of times here in this forum, I would not give my official ID to any booker, agency or working girl. Not just Sesang. No one in his hobby gets my personally identifying information. Even my fellow monger friends, dudes I've met in person, do not know my real name and I don't know their real name. That's the way it's got to be if you want to stay safe...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bartolo2003;7173697]Has anyone tried Japanese nana. Candy girl has her a bb special, so she might not be fully Japanese. Also her photos looks really similar to the famous Mari / Namiko.[/QUOTE]

I hate blueballing people, but if you must know I reviewed Mari / Namiko for Philly last week. They don't really review jgirls, the last one I think was 5 months ago. No one else reviewed her, she is gone now. A week before that, I also gave intel to one friend East Coast who was pleased. I try to be upfront that I am biased for jgirls, so for anyone who isn't a jgirl lover just stop reading here.

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4139-Escort-Reports&p=7199273&viewfull=1#post7199273[/URL] Mari mention

[QUOTE=Download X;7199268][B]Mari[/B] aka Namiko - [B]HYA[/B]. Late 20s, cute, maybe 5'3", B cup, lighter skin, some ass, hair to the middle of her back. Wore a see through gown over outfit. No shower preview but I don't ask. Affectionate and loves to kiss, more than I ask for. It was not DFK or LFK but in-between, lots of tongue play and kissing, good. Kisses me all over and licks my balls. Good bbbj, great attitude. Fully shaved when I saw her, and "at rest" you cannot see clit but that can be solved. Enjoys DATY

Ad photos attached. Mari / Namiko was A Tier service for me, but I rarely hand out S. Mari had a really good attitude, and I saw her 12 months ago so she probably got even better. She is a clear favorite for others. She got one marriage proposal and several others fell in love.

Monthe's review
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33082-Agency-Discussion-and-Reviews&p=7175751&highlight=mari#post7175751[/URL] Mari review

I had a laugh researching her on TER and USAG last year. You can see her on the Seattle board under KAngels from February. Here I'll just quote:

Chulgoon: "Chulgoon likes youn Asian pussy. It's my escape from my married with children life. Mari has been the best visit for me with this current batch. Like others have said she has a youthful look. ".

Asdzzz: Mari indeed looks decent, but not like Ai Uehara's level good as he claimed.

Nakadashi69: "Mari is skinnier and less busty that Ai Uehara, but she has a beautiful face with perfect straight Japanese hair. Mari has a shaved pussy. Mari will ask for and count the donation so she knows how to pace the session and whether or not to get a condom out. She will help you undress and then sit you down on a chair and perform a wonderful BBBJ. I asked her if she liked 69 and she said she loves it, so I hop on the bed and we 69 for a few minutes. Would I see her again, f#$k yes. I actually joked that we should get married so she can stay in the country."

I will now make a formal ruling on the Ai Uehara comparison. I can see why he said Ai Uehara. Mari is a similar height, similar body size (but Mari has a much bigger ass), and similar hair. But the face is different and Mari is rounder. Ruling: Some similarities but not close, 80% similar. I compare Mari to Mihina Nagai, but again there are some similarities but not close (80% similar). You could see how different these two JAV actresses are from each other (they are 60% similar) and imagine a 3rd possibility.[/QUOTE]

I'll leave that intel there in case she returns to town again.

[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;7205690]We are losing our anonymity. Bookers and bosses can still stay anonymous to us but I think they are putting effort into finding out who we are. Just cause you don't give selfie or I'd doesn't mean you are completely anonymous. Keep your eyes open for Ring cam and such at the incall. LEO can access Ring cam easily.[/QUOTE]

It must be location specific. I don't defend or justify ring cams at appointments, just want to simply note that the few in OC that I've seen correlated with areas where girls needed extra deterrence. I felt it was pretty rare in OC, haven't run into one yet in LA. There must be a better way.

It is of course normal for neighbors to sometimes have them, regardless of the floor or building. I want to add that a few LA units have a doorman / security for visitors at night, but only night time past certain hours.